Has there been a bigger indie animation fail than this?
>>155534177Yeah, Monkey Wrench being cancelled in-*looks at watch*Three… two…
>>155534177>Actually using the cup>Drinking out of anything other than clear glass in the first place.
>>155534177>Has there been a bigger indie animation fail than this?That time the tranny decided the whole story was actually about themIf you can't tell which one I'm talking about it shows just how big of an issue it has become
how dp you mess up a cup?
>>155534287Trusting the chingchong pingpongs to not take shortcuts or use inferior materials
>>155534287Have the Chinese make it
>>155534287
>>155534177A little bit of lead poisoning just makes it more authentic to the old GW experience.
>>155534177considering the creators handles it seriously compared to others and went on to make an episode that got 10 million views and a crazy good kickstarter for a board gameyeah there probably is
>>155534177I’d still take both of these over a single shitty GLITCH sweatshop figurine/plush that would just collect dust and I’d have to hide whenever respectable company visits me
>>155534606Normalfag wannabe
>>155534620Why do rude? Did my post remind you of the look of unmendable shame you’re parents gave you when they came over for dinner once and saw your shelf full of GLITCH crap and naked anime girls?
>>155534655No
>>155534177Me am chinese me make jokeMe make lead cup for your coke.
>>155534287cheapest manufacturer you can find in China or India. Plus the creators are just unfamiliar with these things so they keep getting the wrong manufacturers and get swindled.
>>155534676Me ChineseMe play jokeMe put Pb in your Coke
>>155534421>Federal regulators leaned on McDonald's to quickly recall 12 million "Shrek"-themed drinking glasses this spring because they concluded that a typical 6-year-old could be exposed to hazardous levels of the metal cadmium by touching one of the glasses just eight times in a day, according to documents obtained under the federal Freedom of Information Act.>Of the four collectibles in the series tied to the hit movie "Shrek Forever After," the glass depicting the character Puss in Boots, with a predominantly orange design, prompted the recall push.>The investigatory file shows how the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission aggressively turned a tip that the glasses contained cadmium in their colored exterior designs into an assessment that the Puss in Boots glasses posed an unacceptable risk to younger kids.
>>155534734>>155534292>>155534287I remember another anon saying exactly this as he complained about having to deal with the Chinese while he worked in the metalworks industryBasically they have a saying over there that translates into>You get what you pay forWhich they use to outright scam you when you try to go for cheap or accesible prices with them
>>155534942>the Chinese while he worked in the metalworks industryWas it the "Don't tell your company you can speak Chinese " greentext? I thought he was being hyperbolic about the lax quality assurance of metal until the company I worked for needed parts.
Get ready for a lot more of this in the future.
>>155534942>>155534991
>>155535024That's the one, thanks.
>>155535018of what?
>>155534177Lunchables contain lead and you poisoned Americans still eat those.
>>155535082Products being made of toxic materials. Usually there'd be these things called "government regulations" forbidding corporations from doing that, but those are going the way of the dodo. We're going back to the 1800s, so I hope you like your hot chocolate with brick dust.
>>155535120gives it flavor
>>155535120Kids these days are too soft, back in my day we painted with lead paint, used lead diesel in our METAL made cars, smoke lead cigarettes, drank lead water and listened to lead zeppelin.
>>155534177Who the fuck uses LEAD to make cups nowadays? Not even China uses Lead in their cutlery and drinking cups anymore.
>>155535453well china was the reason the cup had lead
>>155535453>not even ChinaHeh.Hahaha Ahahahhahah
>>155535453Same reason why they used to, it's cheap, melts at a low temperature, and is easy to mold into more complex shapes using cheap molds.
>>155534177>lead in cups>poop in iphones>parcels going missingOutsourcing bros did we get too cocky?
>>155534177LOL, it's toxic Shreck cups all over again. Hope no one is dumb enough to send these in, they'll be prime collectables like any merch that's recalled.>>155534291>>155534734>>155534942Yeah, this. Chinese manufacturers WILL fuck you and if you catch them, they'll shrug and propose a discount for your literally unusable order. They live in a zero trust and zero humanism society and made peace with it. They're like a combination of all the worst qualities of Skaven and Ferengi. That's why all the manufacturers who go there (or rather used to go there) made sure to only have people from their home countries in all the positions with oversight and on-site decision-making power.
>>155535904Capitalists forgetting one of the core rules of capitalism: you get what you pay for.
>>155536077i think they sent new cups that are lead free
>>155534285More like I can’t tell because it’s never happened. “Trannies” (such a gross word but I don’t expect better from an incel chud like you) just live rent free in your rotten brain.
>>155536112That has to be an Onion article.
>>155536088Wait, so leftists are admitting immigration and outsourcing are bad things now?
>>155536139nopehttps://www.gamespot.com/articles/whoops-ubisoft-apologizes-for-coffee-mug-with-the-/1100-6481553/
>>155535904>>155535453Reminder that there is lead in lunchables. DO NOT EAT LUNCHABLES.
>>155536122He never said "trannies", you dumb troon
>>155536158There was more than one person on that assembly line thinking>fuck, are Americans retarded? well whatever, box and ship it
>>155535084So do apple skins, the hassle is in exposure intensity over duration.That said, there's still no harm in not eating lunchables when you can just make a flatbread for less per serving.I wish proposition 8 weren't such a half-measure because just slapping hazard labels on virtually everything instead of using the power California already does to just veto the sale of things nationwide in other markets only makes people stop caring or assume you're being hysterical.
>>155536153I'm a centrist. Or whatever people who can see terrible and good points in both capitalism and socialism, conservatism and progressivism are called.>>155536112>>155536158Another amazing collectors' item.
>>155536192Maybe they thought they were making gag gifts for a joke shop.
>>155534606You know, I see a lot of rage over the fact that indie creator merch…simply exists. I don’t get it.>ah shit aH FUCK!! Stuff that I literally never have to spend my money on if I don’t want to EXISTSExplain this mindset to me in a perspective that isn’t just seething jealousy over indie creators making it big. It genuinely always just comes across that people are mad it wasn’t them who got to make merch.>uhhh it’s a waste of resources!You don’t care about the environment, shut up.>the show isn’t good enough!Okay? Capitalism marches on regardless of your personal likes.>it just sits on a shelf like what does it even do?Welcome to every single collectible ever made.All I’m saying is that the only time you ever see this particular mindset is with jealous people and those autists who for years would make rants about seeing too much Minions merchandise and get mad at it because they didn’t have a job or anything else better to do.
>""""chud"""" cartoon>apparently not chuddy enough to not trust the chinese
>>155534275Reminds me of Fallout 4's nuka beer just being a beer bottle in a plastic rocket and everyone being upset they couldn't use the rocket itself.>>155535024A classic.Makes you wonder if the Chinese deserved the Africans in Empire of Dust. After all, the Belgians built that decaying railway with even less resources, infrastructure and unified language, than the Chinese had for their road.
>>155536077It's a little more fucked up than that. They know that they will never face meaningful repercussions unless they piss off their own government. Otherwise, they can and will fuck everyone outside the country because they won't suffer any meaningful punishment and can make a new company under a new name doing the same shit the same day they get banned from an online platform
>>155536322Personally I don't get it either as they gotta get money somehow that isn't from getting funding from investors that wanna change the product to have mass appeal which will alienate the intended audience I've seen anons have multiple threads talk about how cartoons should go back to being made to sell toys and merchFact the matter is, anons don't know why they actually want and expect the people working on a show to give it all for free out of their own pocket yet at the same time come out with in one or two years That being said, I could just see it as how spindel horse has merch for characters that appear for like one episode, feels pointless to sell something that no one asked for
Well if you don't wanna deal with shady Chinese practice, why don't you just...manufacture in America?
>>155534846heh
>>155536538NTA but I think social media has created a very performative form of supporting your favorite IP by buying merch to then show off online how much more crap you have then other people making you the bigger "fan" while getting complimented. As tired of the gay demons show as I am, they do seem to understand that pushing cheap merch constantly is what works with the current model. Having a bunch of stupid $5 keychains and stickers is easy to produce and lets you hit whales and poors when there's fucking 50 of them.
>>155536599More expensiveChinese workers make pennies compared to american workers
>>155536334Neither left wingers nor right wingers are willing to compromise a deal for their principles or beliefs.Perhaps that means we don't have a left or right, we simply have a chinese spectrum.>>155536599Money.>but you have to ship it all the way across the world and pay tariffsThat's how bad the money situation is.
>>155536599Because then the quality is even shittier and way more expensive
>>155536322>>155536538Listen here, you ignorant peasants. *I* am the master of storytelling! *I* know what stories should be told! If a show has merch then the horrible capitalists over at Management are going to dictate to me *ME!* what to put in a show that is supposed to be about *my* lived experiences and *my* truth! We fought long and hard to have our artistic freedom. And now these-these hack outsiders are racking milllions of views and make money by selling merch. Soon Management will start wanting to sell merch again. We will lose our creative freedom again just because some CHUDS! wanted to make peepee poopoo jokes!
>>155534285Be specific, they do this every single time they say anything at all. EVERY single trroon on earth believes that they are the single mostest important person that has ever lived or ever will live.
>>155534906I'm glad RFK fired all those guys, we don't need no damn government regulation telling me what glass I can and cannot buy. Fuck off big brother@!
>>155536322If you don't see the problem, you are a part of the problem.
>>155536599America literally does not have the factories where such things would be manufactured. All of it was sold off to the Chinese in the 1980's. You literally could not make it in America even if you wanted to.
>>155536322The reality is, some new thing that all the kids love today is reminding these aging freaks they are old. The modern era really helps millennials live in a bubble where it's perpetually 2004 at all times forever since Spongebob is still on, Family guy is still on, South Park is still on, Pokemon cards are still on every shelf, Transformers movies are in theaters, and a Shrek movie is coming real soon. They see something that kids love, and they don't understand or does not twinge that feeling of nostalgia, they lash out. And it's the exact same lashing out all older people have when the kids are into some hip new thing unrelated to them. >Old guys in the 60as hated the Beatles>Old guys in the 70s hated disco>Old guys in the 80s hated video games>Old guys in the 90s hated Mtv>Old guys in the 2020s hate Indy dev games and seriesThe old>You damn kids pull up your pants and quit listening to that crap!!is the exact same thing as >You damn kids quit watching that digital circus and playing those huggy wuggy game!
>>155536695So what's the solution?Because having only one stream of revenue for a project is a quick way for it to be killed
>>155536764>The modern era really helps millennials live in a bubble where it's perpetually 2004 at all times forever since Spongebob is still on, Family guy is still on, South Park is still on, Pokemon cards are still on every shelf, Transformers movies are in theaters, and a Shrek movie is coming real soon.Damn, sonny. You are actually right!
>>155534606give yourself lead poisoning to own the chuds
>>155536764The same thing is happening with FNAF fans who played it as teens back in 2015 are now in their 20s and raging at younger kids now playing newer franchises. FNAF fans fucking HAAAAATE Poppy Playtime really real bad and take any chance to rage about them in public.
>>155536701We have carter to thank for that, I should have sharted on his face when his worthless half-dead ass was being wheeled around
>>155536767The solution is kill yourself faggot.
>>155536863He's history's greatest monster!
>>155536861okay but poppy playtime really does suck ass on a level that even FNAF at its worst doesn’t stoop to
>>155534177As a true manly man danger is merely evidence of risky bravery being undertaken.
>>155536877>an rlm referenceHas this board stooped that low
>>155536538I expect entertainment to exist for the sake of entertainment. Not to be a soulless cash grab to sell the cheapest merch imaginable to kids. It's basically drug dealing.
>>155536896That's literally from The Simpsons you dolt.
>>155536599Because Leftists would rather kill a thousand kids before they would ever ever want to contribute to the US economy by hiring an American citizen or opening a job within the US. Their entire ideology compels them to want to throw all money into foreign markets and try to be as harmful to US citizens over here as much as possible. They think that is somehow "getting even" for centuries of injustice.
>>155536900animation is expensive
>>155536922That and just flooding the current job market with huge masses of migrants and then pretending this is some grand gesture of humanitarianism and progressivism, as they turn a blind eye to the people already in the system struggling and/or are homeless. It really is an unholy trinity of out group preferences, suicidal/self-destructive empathy, and okiphobiacs.
>>155536872Doesn't seem like a solution as more as a short term remedy
>>155536538>>155536606Isn't selling merch what always worked to fund a series? Studios started selling and promoting toys to fund the cartoons or else they never would have evolved past the 1970s poorly drawn UPA looking crap. All of those 80s and 90s shows everyone still loves to this day were partially funded by merch sales and toylines.
>>155534177Maxwell Atoms using non-union actors in Dead Meat so the film is literally illegal to release.
>>155534177I wanted one Perhaps lead cups are lore friendly lmao
>>155536974That it making it a puppet show when it should have been animated
>>155536606Because social media allows for near consistent direct interaction with the creators. Fans can see comments made by directors and writers, reply to comments and possibly get a reply back. It fuels their obsession and want for attention from important people so they start buying more merch in hopes they will get a retweet from the studio or an artist working there.
>>155536861So you think it's not because Poppy Pedo fags are in fact pedos fapping to children being turned into monsters with the extra added spice of Critters basically being surrogate ponyfaggotry/furfaggotry
>>155534177The Amazing Digital Circus
>>155536512They'll fuck each other inside their own country. That's basically Asian Business 101: Fuck Everyone Else, Got Mine.
>>155537011I mean we already had that with fnaf with pedo necrophilla with the animatronics constantly be reminded that there are dead children stuffed in themThere was even that one artist who did a comic where springtrap has a relationship with a little girl
>>155536861no? I think it's because poppy playtime is pure shit and everyone that mentions it is a colossal faggot that should be shoved into a woodchipper.
>>155536971Yes, merch is how things get funded.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgRFQJCHcPw this is both a joke and a comment on the whole thing.>>155536993Dude I know. I'm a warhammer 40k clown and just enjoy ignoring social media and hanging out with people at locals. Social media is basically crack for people wanting social gratification. I'm a mediocre painter, but I'm not a whore. But social media really encourages whore behavior
>>155536861Perhaps FNAF fans are none too pleased at a group of amateurs ripping off the FNAF formula in every single way and making a really terrible cop of someone else's work.Poppy playtime is just a really horrible copy, with even worse gameplay, if a superior game made by an actual developer and trying to hide their terrible quality behind shoveling merch down everyone's throats. The point behind each one of their sequels is just to introduce about a dozen new characters that they can make into plushies and blind box figures. Most do not even have a function in the game other than to just stand around for a minute or two on screen to help advertise the new plushie. They made at least three different groups of Critters at this point.
>>155536280>I'm a centrist. Or whatever people who can see terrible and good points in both capitalism and socialism, conservatism and progressivism are called.Moderate, or center left/right leaning.
>>155537011Critters grabbing the furfags was a weird mix of genius for getting furries involved since they will always buy anything and turn the most basic of shit into an obsession, and fucking nightmare since they have now pissed off even the mascot horror fans since there is virtually nothing mascot horror about them. They are literally a care bears toyline with nothing horror related to them in any way.
>>155534177>Space King tests our bodies with his sacred vesselsPraise be!
>>155534676>>155534846Me AmericanMe so smartMe not drink the leaded part
>>155536280The term you are looking for is Fence Shitting Problem for absolutely everyone. Not being on a side means you are on the side of the people who are intentionally fucking over everyone on purpose and you are a cog in their machine. It's also called being complicit with criminals and you will be imprisoned with the criminals for aiding them.
>>155535024Man, i miss fraud.
>>155534676Me am ameicanMe MUST drink from plastic cup with funny cartoon man painted on it!
>>155536684This is the opposite of the truth.RFK is pushing for unnatural food additives, like artificial food coloring, to be dropped from food products.If anyone is getting dumped on his watch, it's because they were stooges of big food and big pharma who don't want to push any changes that would bring production costs up.
>>155537126Things aren't a simple as thatBeing reductive doesn't help anyone and perpetuates the problemsPeople actually taking a moment to think instead being quick to choose a side would solve more problems
>>155536922even if you did open up a factory in the US the cost would be much higher than people would be willing to pay for a novelty merchandise cup. The people capable of opening up factories aren't exactly bleeding heart liberals.
>>155536949>okiphobiacsoh it’s this asshole again
>>155537146Its a stupid thing to lie about since Kennedy is obsessed with healthy eating
>>155537173Note how this bootlicker gets offended by a word but can't say how he's wrong
>>155537185Because you have been proven wrong beforeWe literally can look in the archives and see how time and time again you've been proven wrong
>>155534177
>>155537024That's weird shit random individuals made with their fanfiction. Poppy devs outright said the monsters were all kids and you the player spend all your time killing kids. With a very weird and uncomfortable obsession with kids on the devs part.
>>155537185I agree with the point you made, I just think you’re an asshole
>>155536861The aggression make sense to me. Cawthorn made a game, it did well, made sequels, they were great and people genuinely enjoyed the franchise. Poppy is just some other unrelated guys making a poorly made knockoff. It steals everything from FNAF, badly. In a normal functioning world the poppy devs would have been sued into nonexistence for such a blatant level of theft.
>>155537202How is he wrong, leftytroon?
>>15553720511/10 job there anon
>>155537242Nah they wouldn't It's like ninja turtle rip offs from the 80's and 90's Scott doesn't have a copyright or creation of creepy animatronis killing people
>>155537259Literally look up okiphobiacs in the /co/ archive and you'll find the crumb trail with various anons telling him how he's wrong Repeating everything anons have said in the past would be too many characters for the reply box
>>155536599You know how people complain the LEGO is super expensive compared to competitor brands?While a part of that is brand tax, the wast majority, is because they pay Danish level wages.People can buy cheap slop, because they're made by workers who're payed less.If things were made domestically, prices would sky rocket, and no one wants that, not even the ones who complain about wages being low.Everyone wants high wages, but no one actually wants to be the ones who pay for them.
>>155537242>Poppy is just some other unrelated guys making a poorly made knockoff. It steals everything from FNAF,THISSSS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Poppy Pedotime is a total ripoff of the superior FNAF. It just takes equivalent concepts and replaces them.>FNAF takes place in a pizza place for kids, Poppy takes place in a toy store for kids!>FNAF antagonists are animatronic entertainers, Poppy antagonists are life sized toys (that make no sense and were never explained!)>FNAF requires the player to solve complex puzzles to make it out alive, Poppy requires the player to solve retarded and broken puzzles made by someone who clearly has on idea what a puzzle is to survive!
>>155537146Explain all the food recalls then
>>155537177Isn't he the guy telling everyone to drink raw milk and eat horse paste? The brain worm guy?
>>155537146RFK pushing for the one good thing so that idiots like you can quote that while ignoring that he's dropped food safety standards across the board.
>>155537276So you can't say how he's wrong?I can see how letting millions of immigrants in destroys the value of labor and increases house pricesDon't see why it's a good thing unless you worship the elite
>>155536764>hey millennials, your favorites are still on! Spongebob, Family Guy, South Park, Pokeymans, Transformers and Green Monster Man!Oh wow, things that I stopped caring about after they were corrupted by cliques, and existed before my generation (Transformers). I'm definitely stuck in 2004, Shrek isn't being aged up, and all my friends definitely haven't become incredibly political and terminally online. Why yes brown girl ice cream pokémon and trannieformers are definitely 2004 coded!I definitely still feel like I'm in 2004 and don't actually wish it was 2004 again, or perhaps decades prior, in culture at least.I'm definitely a boomer who looks at what zoomies and alphas have>broccoli hair>niggerspeak>tung tung sahur>fortnite piss fetish emotes>vanilla minecraft that might as well be a shitty compilation mod>fnaf with its LOOORE and mystery box with nothing in it, poppy playtime with its unwritten plot and walking simulator "gameplay", garten of banban dear fucking god it's slop>undertroon and deltroon>TADC, which started out as a rose tinted love letter to 3D animation, then immediately ran out of material for likeable references to the medium, and ended with trannie culture, "boymoding", and plagiaris- I mean REFERENCING Road Runner, a universally enjoyed 1900s cartoon>trannie 40K where the company posts messages of "You're not welcome here" and doesn't train its sculptors to make models made for assembly or painting, further proving everything worthwhile in 40K was made before the FIRST millennials were old enough to paint a mini let alone able to consoom anythingbut I do look at Space King and say "Wow I wish I had this on Cartoon Network instead of Regular Cuck, Adventure Troon, Chowderre, and every 3D show that existed between 2000 and 2010. I'd throw away Ben 10 for it and I'm not talking about the sequel series."
>>155537266They literally copied the fucking art.
>>155537324>leftists pretend to not understand to make discourse impossibleIs eating healthy really too much to ask from you fat trannies
>>155537331Weird how you seem to know aaaaaaaaaaallllll about it in minute detail for someone who is claiming to not be a fan, not be a part of it, and not like it at all.
>>155537347Just saying, he's not the first guy I'd take advice from. That would be someone with an intact brain.
>>155537298I think it's more fascinating how the Markiplier fans seem to think that they too must take up the crusade to hate on anything he hates and keep on going with it for months and months. I'm sure if you keep bitching and moaning about a game existing on an anonymous board, he will eventually thank and reward you for your service anon.
>>155537347ALL Leftist arguements consist of pretending to not know something, not see something or only repeating quippy one liners and making discourse impossible. Their brains are not capable of grasping someone simply not falling in line and doing what he is told.
>>155537259>>155537329why are you referring to yourself in the third person?
>>155537354Anon was saying millennials are now boomers who hate things the kids like today.I was saying I hate the shitty things and have at least one thing I like that Gen X + Gen Y has made for them to consoom but with a lamentation that I want the world that created older stuff like Looney Tunes when it was good.I don't know how this makes me a fan of zoomer culture or if I was why that would mean I cannot criticize tranniedom hijacking mass culture.
>>155537266I believe if someone invents something unique, they invented a unique thing. Not a genre. Calling it a genre is giving the ripoff con artists and scammers all the leeway in the world to keep on stealing and copying until they fucking ruin the one unique thing that was good.
>>155537347>>155537390>pretend to not understand to make discourse impossibleThat's just a thought terminating cliche you use when you can't think of any response to criticism from someone who (you think) is leftist.
>>155537403>Lists zoomer culture in minute detail with a list of examples>B-but I'm not a fan or anything....I just consume it daily for....research!!!!Sure bud, whatever you have to say to yourself, keep hanging out in that closet.
>>155537324>The brain worm guy?>Telling you to take dewormer horse pasteHow evil of him>>155537379>he's not the first guy I'd take advice from. That would be someone with an intact brain.And I bet you wore a mask during covid because the alzheimer's guy with two brain tumors told you to.
>>155537381He's smarter than youricher than youhe is an award winning directorwho has millions of fans I think his thoughts and opinions matter a little more than yours anon. You are a fucking nobody.
>>155534177As if Thundercats Roar did not have enough problems, this certainly did not help at all.
>>155537177>>155537324The guy did one good thing and completely fucked up everything else.https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/sep/13/maha-movement-food-illness-funding-cuts-layoffshe fired a ton of people and made shit worse all around.he also lied under oath to congress during his confirmation hearing:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/aug/27/rfk-jr-senate-confirmation-hearing-testimony-vaccinesHe's not responsible for this fuck up with the lead cups though. That's not his department.
>watch the movies on Youtube>"huh, censored gore, let's check how it actually looks">it's lame as shitSo is Youtube actually this baby-ish or it's an excuse to push for more Patreon bucks?Show itself is fairly interesting, though.
>>155536922>leftistsThere is barely such a thing as a leftist businessman.
>>155537450>He's more cancellable than youHow do I get a massive fanbase of tranny FNAF players? Can you give me some tips?
>>155537448>And I bet you wore a mask during covid because the alzheimer's guy with two brain tumors told you to.???
>>155537459KekWhy did industry people choose this show as their hill to die on? I'd sooner sympathize with a Steven Universe defender
>>155537465>Firing middle management leftists that only exist to drive up prices and force leftist idealism regulation >This is somehow a bad thingYou need to step out of your little social media information bubble.
>>155537305Food recall 3 or so years ago>Bran muffins have been recalled in the town of Coyotebang, Iowa due to potential contamination>only gets covered by the local newsFood recalls now>Bran muffins have been recalled in the town of Coyotebang, Iowa due to potential contamination>journalists with an agenda against RFK make it into a national story, big social media accounts post the headline without specifying that it's localized in only one area, and make sure to include a menacing photo of RFK next to the photo of a bran muffinThe only actual big recall of late was lettuce, which, big surprise, was handled by retarded Mexicans.
>>155537403They are becoming the new boomers (just without the money). Millennials have become extremely bitter over the past few years.
>>155537478Two big gaping holes right next to the other massive one, not a good thing for the brain to endure.
>>155537480A few of them were really not industry people at all, as in they were not working on any show and really thought that clout chasing on Twitter would get them noticed by industry sempai and hired on to some cool big production. Nico specifically was an animatic timer that REALLY wanted to elevate up to director/showrunner and get in on the showrunners at CN social circle really bad, so he was fanning flames thinking that would be the event to launch his career and stardom.
>>155537481Then give evidence his cuts are making it better.Is the outbreak of diarrhea parasites (Cyclospora) an intentional part of the MAHA plan?
>>155537502covid was under trump and so were the mask instructions
>>155536625>Perhaps that means we don't have a left or right.STOP NOTICING THINGS!
>>155537448I wore a mask during COVID because I wouldn't be able to buy groceries and shit if I didn't.
>poppy playtime is a carbon copy of fnaf!>my clicker game slop is better than their walking game slop!>they're also garten of ban ban copiers!Might as well say fnaf is about children dying in a child-friendly americana locale, ergo fnaf copied nightmare on elm street.
>>155537515By Trump you mean entirely inside Biden's presidency while he forced lockdowns and made arrests of conservatives...
>>155537489Measles
>>155537507No debt is occurring to pay for a book learned retard.>Is the outbreak of diarrhea parasites (Cyclospora) an intentional part of the MAHA plan?We know about and use ivermectin now (uh oh stinky!). I mean we already did this until a bunch of healthcare providers decided to reset the world for a globohomo organization but we told them to fuck off too.
>>155537519>I was only symbolically complying with the terrorists and tyrants!! I was always on your side I swear!!!You still deserve the rope.
>>155537527COVID 19 started in 2019. Who was president in 2019 and 2020?>Biden's presidency while he forced lockdowns and made arrests of conservatives...Source?
>>155537515Covid was under BIDEN you fucking commie.
>>155537538Motherfucker, do you throw a tantrum every single time someone asks you to put the slightest effort into taking other people into account? If you don't give a shit about other people then fuck off to a deserted island in the middle of fucking nowhere, but if you want to stay in the playground, you have to play nice with the other kids. Why should the rest of us have to put up with your narcissistic ass?
>>155537503Why is nico like this?Every action of his seems to be focused on advancing his animation career even when it's inappropriate
>>155537515>covid was under trump and so were the mask instructions>mask "instructions"Covid was delt with properly by Trump when he banned travel to china, which everyone called him racist for. He never mandated anything. Joe rehired Fauci to lie to you, they pressured everyone to enforce mandated mask wearing and there is no amount of gaslighting you can do because everyone here experienced it. You're not going to cancel 5 years in hopes that some toddler reads this and agrees with you.>>155537519>I wore a mask during COVID because I wouldn't be able to buy groceries and shit if I didn't."BUt tHey DiDn'T FORce You!"
>>155537528>let in millions of third worlders without any kind of real process, just wave them in over the southern border and call it a day>suddenly diseases that the native population doesn't have to worry about start popping up
>>155537465>He's not responsible for this fuck up with the lead cups though. That's not his department.Trump did fuck with the CPSC, who is responsible for safety in these kind of products:https://www.nepm.org/regional-news/2025-07-23/democrats-and-safety-experts-sound-alarm-over-dismantling-of-consumer-product-agencyBut they still issued a recall for the space king cup:https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2026/Warren-James-Recalls-the-Copper-Cup-Found-in-Flashgitz-Relic-Lunch-Boxes-Due-to-Risk-of-Serious-Injury-or-Death-from-Lead-Poisoning
>>155537546when was biden president? When did covid start?
>>155536599All manufacturing went to China, so homegrown economies of scale goes to fuck itself .
>>155537560You resist tyranny, or you are a part of itThere is NO subtlety to that. There is no arguing with it, there is no trying to find minute points inside it.
>>155537381People have been shitting on Poppy Playtime since chapter 2.If anything Mark is behind the curve, and have been overly generous.I don't really give a shit about mascot horror slapfests, because frankly, most of them are shit.But as someone with a degree in game design, as in the design of gameplay, I do check up on what's popular, and Poppy Playtime is objectively terribly put together from a gameplay standpoint, especially the later chapters.It's very clearly put together by narrative people, and not game designers.FNAF is... okay in the gameplay department I guess. It suffers way less from the "Expecting people to do something that you have no reason to expect them to do" problem that plagues Poppy, but it effectively suffers from the opposite problem where they've effectively sanded off all the edges, to the point where the only reason anyone should die in them is due to a bug. The later games are very clearly more interesting in telling a narrative than being a game.
>>155537537>No debt is occurring to pay for a book learned retard.????>We know about and use ivermectin now (uh oh stinky!). I mean we already did this until a bunch of healthcare providers decided to reset the world for a globohomo organization but we told them to fuck off too.What are you talking about? And what does that have to do with cyclospora?
>>155537573It was annoying, yeah, the mask kept fogging up my glasses, but I put up with it because I'm used to putting up with shitty situations, that's life. Shit happens whether you like it or not, but you always have a say in how you deal with it.
>>155537562He got really badly caught up in the social media clout situation where every important person involved in a major show had a lot of followers and gained a lot of attention. Somehow Nico put this together as people who work on cool shows like Gravity Falls and Ducktales were actually the High School clique of cool kids who sit at the cool kids table and were super dooper important and he craved that. He also started acting like it when he worked on a couple episodes of Star Vs, he started treating up and comers and students like shit because he was the cool kid now and they better know their place and Respect (ass kiss) him while he talks shit to them. and that backfired too since those rumors started going around, and those new guys also rose up and became important people that remember the fat bastard that treated them like shit.
>>155537578those countries vaccinate against measles
>>155537597>tyrannyYou really are a fucking narcissist. You're a spoiled, selfish child who can't stand everything not revolving around you. You resent the fact that you have to share the world with people who aren't just extensions of you. You're just an overgrown toddler who never moved past the mine phase. And that's all you'll ever be.
>>155537507You can thank the mass importation of Indians for that.Diarrhea deaths per year in India are far greater than gun deaths in the USA and heat deaths in Europe.Basically every major problem in the US is downstream of immigration since the passing of the Hart-Cellar Act.
>>155537573>Covid was delt with properly by Trump when he banned travel to china, which everyone called him racist for. He never mandated anything.Trump's CDC:https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-04-03/cdc-recommends-wearing-face-masks-during-coronavirus-pandemic
>>155537659>Retarded leftie does not even notice he is spouting the communist playbook word for wordJust so you know, if the commies ever do take over, you will definitely be one of the useful idiots to die in a camp too. They will not reward your service. They will just kill you.
>>155537626>but I put up with it because I'm used to putting up with shitty situations,You put up with it to buy groceries, to keep your job, and because a liar made it up. He admitted it was bullshit.>>155537614Meaning no low effort nutritionist is getting a 6 figure salary to go on television to tell everyone to wash their vegetables. >What does this anti parasite drug have to do with parasites This is what I mean, we don't have to pay people like you for failure fact checking in the government anymore. You can do it for free now on your spare time between part time dishwashing jobs.
>>155534177Boooo. They should have let the fags die of lead poisoning so that we could get news articles about their mass deaths
>>155537126You're right anon. I gotta pick a side. I'm now on the side of whatever fucks you over the most for being annoying.
>>155537668I see "recommends" in the link and that's as far as you're getting with me because I'm not paying to read your fake news website. Also it seems to say the "CDC" recommended them which is the globohomo organization I was referring to.
>>155537674Zip it, kiddo, the grownups are talking. If you're gonna act like a toddler, that's how you'll be treated. Now go sit in the corner, I'm putting you in time out.
>>155537655You can't just make a blanket statement like that.It's not just people from South American countries. It's well known that people from around the world travelled into South and Central America to make a run at the US border when it was wide open.
>>155537691the cdc is american
>>155537696>>155537578How was the border wide open? What does that mean exactly? Did border control cease to exist under biden?
>>155537500Alright let's start again.>millennials bad, zoomer good, alpha good>extremely bitter, but only recentlyYes but no. The 2010s weren't recent, just because zoomers and alphas are new doesn't mean they are cool nor does it mean their entire culture wasn't created by boomers/gen X/gen Y/literal indians/brazilians/russians/eurocucks. Just because I'm a millennial doesn't mean I don't see the value in some of zoomshit or want to go back to 2004. I want to "go back to" the 1980s, 70s or 30s.
>>155537703Did border control cease to exist under biden?Yes.
>>155537719When did he say zoomers good?
>>155537696They deride and distract from the real "cure" to all these diseases. Polio? Measles? Just enforce immigration. Do not allow illegals to freely enter the country. Quarantine all suspicious legal immigrants. Polio was completely eliminated in this country because of it (until it came back because of illegal immigration from mexico).>>155537699You're right I was thinking of WHO. Still this was just a recommendation and not an actual mandate. The vaccine wasn't either.
>>155537727>Did border control cease to exist under biden?>Yes.And can you show me any evidence the agency was dissolved under him?
>>155537734RFK is against measles and polio vaccines.
>>155537703Where were you for 4 years?
>>155537666Leftists think immigration is good because the media said its racist to ask questions
>>155537740>Let's just inject a living virus into healthy people>Somehow this makes them get even healthier!!!One sort of HAS to be blitheringly retarded or a totally controlled, brainwashed fucking zombie to ever think this is how health works. Big Pharma invented the practice of injecting viruses into people since they were not catching enough diseases on their own out in the wild. The medic al sales industry needed a boost and government forcefulness to rake in the billions.
>>155537737Controlling the borders is an agency?
>>155537674The one funny part of communism is it always kills the communists
>>155537740Please find for me a quote of RFK speaking poorly of the polio vaccine.People mistake RFK's efforts to reduce the massively inflated vaccine schedule of infants for a 100% opposition of any vaccine at all, which is untrue.
>>155537747>out of context picture
>>155537740Well that would make sense since he's also against illegal immigration.
>>155537729The entire comment chain is old-vs-young, with millennials being the "old" and <millennial being the "young".There are apps which help with dementia. Try one and you might be able to keep up with this fast paced discussion where clicking on the >> lets you read the entire thing at your own pace.
>>155537578Immigration:Increased diseasesIncreased crimeIncreased house and food pricesBut hey atleast the rich can lower wages and make some money
>>155537740I cannot help but notice how many many decades of flu and measles shots every year still has yet to eradicate flu and measles in any meaningful way. In fact they still seem to be the most common, and yet most communicable diseases known. But we still inject them into tends of thousands of people every single year. I think that's interesting, don't you think that's interesting?
>>155537786Every rational human being is
>>155537756>>Let's just inject a living virus into healthy people>>Somehow this makes them get even healthier!!!>One sort of HAS to be blitheringly retarded or a totally controlled, brainwashed fucking zombie to ever think this is how health works. Big Pharma invented the practice of injecting viruses into people since they were not catching enough diseases on their own out in the wild.Not when it was created.https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/smallpox-inoculation-revolutionary-war.htm
>>155537760You're trolling, right? I mean it's pretty obvious you are but I just want to make sure.
>>155537795>I cannot help but notice how many many decades of flu and measles shots every year still has yet to eradicate flu and measles in any meaningful way. Uh fact check chud: None of them claim to be a cure. In fact they outright tell you they don't do that. They're unironically bigger memes than covid shots. Yeah bet you feel stupid now!
>>155537805You're right, we should just make legal immigration easier. I mean, if the whole problem is that they're in the country illegally...
>>155537760>Controlling the borders is an agency?Yes, the CBP. If you mean they stopped doing anything, then prove that the borders were 100% open and that no one was guarding the border and that any shipment of good could just come in without going through customs under biden.
>>155537795>eradicateA bunch of first world countries have eradicated various diseases... that then came back after mass immigration. The people who tell you to get injected are the same who tell you immigration is a good thing with no downsides. How can you trust anything?
>>155537795Vaccines do work, but in the end you still to consider environmental factors, and flooding the country with millions more people will increase the amount of viruses and their spread. Especially when those people are third worlders who eat their own shit.There's a quote about how plumbers did more to fight disease than doctors
>>155537821You silly libs with your "proof" and your "evidence".
>>155537776>Please find for me a quote of RFK speaking poorly of the polio vaccine.https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/17/health/robert-f-kennedy-jr-polio-vaccines.html
>>155537820Thats a great idea for for the 1%, then house prices can go way up and wages can go down lower. Maybe a billion more Africans and Indians?Are you rich?
>>155537795>I cannot help but notice how many many decades of flu and measles shots every year still has yet to eradicate flu and measles in any meaningful way. In fact they still seem to be the most common, and yet most communicable diseases known.Common and highly transmittable diseases are more likely to mutate in ways that make vaccines less effective.
>>155537833There was no evidence there, he asked a questionWhy do leftists see a man and call it a woman like this? They haven't made a single argument so far
>>155537834>paywalled link
Why is every thread about Space King like this?
>>155537834If you're going to expect me to pay subscriptions to read your sources then I expect to be paid to reply. I am doing a bit more than a janitor, afterall.
>>155537856And it happens exactly when mass immigration happens, in the areas where they live by coincidenceScience is for nazis
>>155537537ivermectin isn't used for cyclospora, since its a single celled organism. it's used for stuff like worms.
>literally zero discussion of Comics or CartoonsWhat blew up this time, pidorashka?Also, /pol/tard raid and spam threads are cancer and against >>>/global/rules/3 >>>/global/rules/4 >>>/global/rules/6 >>>/global/rules/10 and >>>/co/rules/1OP is a faggot. Fulfill your civic duty to help purge this board of anarchistic, sociopathic, intellectually regressive youtube/reddit/twitter immigrant subhuman troglodytes like him, who are under the delusion that all of 4chan (instead of just the designated shitposting playpens like /b/, /trash/, /bant/, etc.) is a toilet by reporting this thread en masse.If necessary, force the "mods" to actually do their fucking jobs by reporting this shitty thread as a violation of U.S. law.Here's a link so you don't have to scroll up to the top of the page. https://sys.4chan.org/co/imgboard.php?mode=report&no=155534177You can report something multiple times by clearing your cookies and reseting your router.
>>155537843Sure, but what if we got a whole bunch of other countries to do the same? What if we got the whole world to do that? Then everyone could just live wherever the hell they're most comfortable.
>>155537874>And it happens exactly when mass immigration happens, in the areas where they live by coincidenceprove it.
>>155537870They offended the leftistsIts the same as the stonetoss threads except even the mods are sick of banning everything that offends the left. Pretty soon they'll want batman banned for being a fascist
>>155537870It's gatekeeping but not really.>>155537876I see, so antibiotics then.
>>155537834>>155537872http://archive.today/2024.12.17-195109/https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/17/health/robert-f-kennedy-jr-polio-vaccines.html
>>155537891After you prove that millions more people has no effect on viral transmission since you made the original claim here >>155537856Why do leftists always beg for evidence of common information but never post proof themselves?
>>155537734>You're right I was thinking of WHO. Still this was just a recommendation and not an actual mandate. The vaccine wasn't either.ok, so when was either mandated under biden?
>>155537915>millions more people has no effect on viral transmissionI didn't say that.
>>155537887We did have that, then the immigrants all begged to be let into white countries, and the rich let them to fuck over the working class. Are you rich?
>>155537917>>155537926Why do you refuse to provide source for your claims but keep asking new questions that make no sense?
>>155537894No it's because this thread is about product safety and recalls and that's a pretty political subject nowadays. Regular space king threads aren't like this.
>>155537935>Why do you refuse to provide source for your claims but keep asking new questions that make no sense?Which claim? Be specific and link to the post
>>155537870>show makes fun of wokeDid you need to ask?
>>155537870Like others said it's loosely about Space King, there's already another thread made.
>>155537947Why are you pretending not to understand?Is this a leftist technique when you lose?
>>155537915https://www.health.harvard.edu/healthy-aging-and-longevity/why-do-we-need-new-flu-shots-every-year
>>155537928So, here's a crazy idea, but hear me out: what if we worked to increase the quality of life in every country around the world, so people wouldn't feel the need to escape from bad countries to good countries, because there wouldn't be any bad countries anymore? We could devise some kind of system where countries that have more resources use them to help countries that have less. Oh wait, silly me, I forgot that I'm talking about humans, who would rather burn the playground down than share it with anyone they don't like. Never mind. Guess we're stuck with the narcissistic dystopia that runs on sheer spite. That's so much easier than caring about other people, after all.
>>155537902>155537902They actually want people to pay for nothing burger articles like this, it's fucking sad really.>>155537917https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13991>But it was autopen so it doesn't countWhat's pathetic is it's actually one of the only ones he actually did sign, live for fake news of course.
>>155537870Space King did a heckin fascism
>>155537979Only applies to>visitors and employees of federal land and propertiesthat's very specific. It wouldn't apply to people in the supermarket.
>>155537977>weOK so here's a crazy idea why don't those immigrants go do that, like the Japanese and the South Koreans did? That way every country can improve and the rich won't be able to lower wages! Oh I forgot you hate white people and want to disguise your hatred as empathy and never want to improve anything yourself
>>155537977musk ended usaid
>>155538006>Goalposts being moved alreadyNice try based anon, but he's leftist and will only believe what the media tells him to believe
>>155537969well, you were saying i made a claim that i didn't actually make.
>>155537977Because that would be cultural colonialism, or cultural imperialism, or whatever fucking excuse. Because outside of the West, other countries don't function socially or culturally the same as the West. Then there's the whole high trust vs low trust issue and there's enough anons who have visited the 3rd worlders and there's a reason they'll usually stay that way, no mater how much money the West throws at them.>>155538021USAID did more shady shit, like contractors money gouging and political, social and cultural activism under the guise of humanitarianism than it ever did any good. I hope USAID ends completely.
>>155538032>>155538006>When was it mandatedYou got your answer, it was mandated federally and if it was mandated in your state then sorry you live in a democrat run shithole who follows lock-step with demo government. Speaking of they threatened any states government by proxy of using departments like the Department of Education to launch probes and restrict funding. Which isn't a "mandate" more than it is a "threat" but that would obviously be moving the goalposts.
>>155538016>Oh I forgot you hate white peopleNo, I hate people who can't stop listening to the little voice in their heads that constantly whines "Me, meee, meeeee, what about meeeeeeeeeeee?" for even a second, and simply cannot be happy unless they make everything about themselves and force everyone else out of the spotlight for good. And there are people like that in every race, it's just that the white ones are the ones making everything so shitty right now. If they'd just stop behaving like that, I'd be happy to coexist with them, but if they say coexistence isn't an option, then they can't complain when I play along.
>>155534287Lots of ways. They could have used lead in the mix because its cheaper, lead has a low melting point although I dont know if that is a factor. Also the Chinese are exceedingly sloppy, they could have processed lead in a previous project and it got mixed in with the metal for the new product, allegedly.Another case of this is afghani migrants getting high lead exposure from Chinese made Afghani pressure cookers. If you're an Afghan you have enough problems with your gene code without lead in it.
>>155538080White people don't want or need to coexist with you, that's the problem. You're a shameless begger and they're increasing sick of you constantly crying for more handouts
>>155538032The point is that biden didn't force you to wear a mask or take a vaccine with that executive order. vast majority of the usa is not on federal lands, and vast majority of americans are not federal employes.If that counts as a mandate, then so does this: https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/white-house-staff-members-will-be-vaccinated-later
>>155538080>No, I hate people >it's just that the white ones are the ones making everything so shitty right now. . >If they'd just stop behaving like that, I'd be happy to coexist with them, but if they say coexistence isn't an option, then they can't complain when I play along.We'll stop acting like it when you stop enabling us. The whole "gimp whitey with white privilege and treat ourselves as the lesser meek people" routine really didn't work out too well either.
>>155538080The audacity of an immigrant with an IQ of 80, claiming we "all need to work together", and then switching to "I'd be happy to coexist if they meet my demands". No country in the world wants you scum
>>155538091>White people don't want or need to coexist with youCorrection: white people like YOU don't want to coexist with anyone else. You want the entire playground all to yourselves, and again, you'd rather burn it to the ground than let anyone else play, because you are just overgrown toddlers stuck in the mine phase, physically incapable of caring about anyone else's wants or needs, and unable to accept that other people are not just extensions of you. In a nutshell, you're textbook narcissists.
>>155538118If you don't want to play nice with the other kids, why should they play nice with you? You just want everyone to bend over backwards to give you what you want, while never having to give them the smallest thing in return. You just want to be the biggest bully on the playground.
>>155538179I don't want anything from you, except for you leaving.
>>155537936also the topic of product recall is centered around consumer safety and public safety, so discussion of aspects of public safety is more likely.
>>155538193>get outta MYYYYYYYY playground! MINE MINE MINE! ALL MIIIIIIIIIINE!Aw, looks like someone's feeling cranky! Do you need a nap, or a diaper change?
>>155538179Proverbially you're in the wrong school district because your parents lied on the sign up forms because they didn't want you to going to the "other school district" (the shithole one that's shit because people like your parents run it)
>>155538091>the guy on the forum that begs for free children shows
>>155538216The party is over, and I'm politely asking you to go home. The next time won't be polite.
>>155538286>The party is overOh please, we both know that your idea of a perfect world is one where it's your birthday every day, and the birthday party goes on forever. You think the sun is a spotlight always trying to catch your best side. If you ever actually had sex, you'd scream your own name when you cum. You probably pop a boner every time you see your reflection. You are completely, absolutely, utterly head over heels in love with yourself, and high as a kite on your own flatulence.
>>155538286>The next time won't be politewhat are you going to do about it?
>>155538354Seethe in impotent narcissistic rage, I imagine.
>>155538286>The next time won't be polite
>>155538374He's a little boy who wants to feel like a big man. Seen it a million times.
>>155538359>>155538374>>155538388Thy want to murder people. That's the basic thing.They're autists mad about cartoons or video games so they long to shoot brown people and pray for a day where the government gives them a gun and tells them to start shooting like a video game.
>>155538523>pray for a day where the government gives them a gunNobody believes this will happen and this is not how the scenario you've projected will actually play out. You're right about the "mad about cartoons and video games" though and it was probably not a good idea to purposefully inject yourselves into those hobbies specifically with the intention of making them dogshit.
>>155538568>not a good idea to purposefully inject yourselves into those hobbies specifically with the intention of making them dogshit.This.
>>155538523Like I said, they want to be the biggest bullies on the playground, and they want their victims to just sit there and take it. If they can't have that, then no one gets to enjoy the playground at all.
>>155538719And yet they keep coming to the playground>and they want their victims to just sit there and take itIs this not what you wanted? Are they not gluttons for punishment? For some reason they're just absolutely enamored taking whitey's whip, otherwise they would just stay in their country?
>>155538759Have you ever actually asked them what they want instead of making assumptions and immediately accepting them as objective truths? Of course you haven't, because you don't care about what other people want, you only about what YOU want. You treat people like crap and have the audacity to complain when they don't want you around anymore, because you believe that you're entitled to treat them like crap. You're just another self-absorbed little shit who grossly exaggerates how important he is. You are fundamentally incapable of learning something most people learn in preschool: that the world doesn't revolve around you.
>>155538793*you only care about what YOU want.Look at that, something else most people can do but you can't: admit that you made a mistake.
>>155538793>Have you ever actually asked them what they want instead of making assumptions and immediately accepting them as objective truths? Maybe part of the misunderstanding is the part where you expect me to ask or think that anyone ever asked about a literal who country who just recently adopted toilets.>Of course you haven't, because you don't care about what other people want, you only about what YOU want.You're goddamn right. Now go the fuck back!>You treat people like crap and have the audacity to complain when they don't want you around anymore, because you believe that you're entitled to treat them like crap.More like I treat them like crap and they're still retarded enough to stay. Stockholm syndrome? Do you have a mental disability or some shit? Do I have to spell it out for you even more than I already have?We don't want youWe never wanted youNo one asked for youYou have been misinformed/ill-informed by fake news and were incentivized to believe it because buying into the meme that america needs immigration means you get to leave your shithole country and come live in a first world. >You're just another self-absorbed little shit who grossly exaggerates how important he is.That's what you do when you enable me. Yeah you'll say all that shit yet here you still are dealing with little old me. Go back? You won't, and we all know why>You are fundamentally incapable of learning something most people learn in preschool: that the world doesn't revolve around you.You are fundamentally incapable of gaslighting about selfishness because your entire existence is dependent on it. You can only make laughable one liners that carry no weight because everyone else other than you knows you're a disingenuous foreigner. Were you not here your one liner would be "Thank you for calling microsoft customer support center" after making the scam call yourself. You can't even run scams properly. The phone calls are more hilarious than them speaking of virtue.
>>155534287>>155534942>buy shitloads of stuff off Aliexpress>success rate of about 99% because I'm willing to actually check reviews to see if they're real, and make sure there's nothing sus>also can solder any shoddy wiring or upgrade batteries on shit, so that works out too>will never, EVER buy anything even remotely connected to food or drink, no pills, no eating utensils, no flammable gases either, of course>be happy with all my cheap shit that costs 10% of what it'd be anywhere else
