>radio silent marketing>first trailer was met with mockery and scorn>no sign of second trailer>no merchandise announced or even leaked (highly unusual for a Disney movie)>tie-in books not out til the same day as the movie (Wish and Zootopia 2 had theirs weeks in advance)>ongoing rumours of production trouble>test screenings are apparently going awfulWhy do they seem to be ashamed to show us any more of this film? Do we have another Disney bomb on our hands?
>>155637725>"Something is happening to Billie."That... can't be the real tagline? What the fuck? That's the lamest shit I've ever seen. Might as well just say:>Things will happen in this motion picture.
>>155637725As late as September 2025 this still had a male protagonist. Meaning it has spent less than a year in its current incarnation. It is going to suck balls.
>>155637725>Comes out after Halloween when everyone will have started doing Christmas marketingThat should tell you all you need to know.
>>155637929lol wtf its almost a full month after halloweenyou can tell it's because they need all that time after ditching the male protagonist at the last possible minute just for another smug quirky girlboss
>>155637818This and Elio are baffling decisions to me. The movies are gonna bomb anyways, why not go with what you have now instead of spending more money to retool it? Better let it be a soft flop than a historical disaster.
>>155638004Wouldn't be surprised if it's releasing that late because they're still making the movie.
The only thing that can save this movie now is if they make the girl a dyke. Then at least the queers will see it.
>>155637725Does it really even matter? Disney can afford to make failure after failure. All they need to remedy any failures is make a new Toy Story sequel or Zootopia sequel and the Retarded Normies will eat that shit. So long as idiots have no issues with supporting Disney Sequels its all fucking good even the Tangled Live Action Remake is looking like an immediate success as well. You underestimate how fucking STUPID humans are and that's why you fail. I can't stand Disney haters because they keep ignoring how Disney is laughing to the bank with their shitty remakes and sequels. So what if a few original films fail? The remakes and sequels make up for it.
>>155638059You need an original to succeed every now and again to generate fresh IPs that can be milked. You can't keep milking shit from the 90s ad infinitum.
>>155638165Hey, whoa man. Moana is hot.
>>155638165This, why can't we have another white princess movie? The last one was Frozen over a fucking decade ago, every female lead since then has been some mystery meat POC.
>>155637725What did they expect when they put a period blood joke in the trailer? Like man people are going to be eating popcorn during that.
>>155638320No way, they got the DreamWorks face AND Quirk Chungus face in this?!
>>155638336So wholesome
the mom doesn't even look old, why not give her wrinkles?
>>155638401I thought they were the same character.
>>155638630i bet thats going to be the twist
>>155638711>>155637818The twist will be the girl IS a boy
>>155637725>make her a lesbian>milk the owl house crowd foreverBravo mouse. Bravo...
>>155637725They know it's going to flop harder than Wish and Elio. They know it looks like a grubhub commercial mixed with Descendants. They are embarassed of their own movie.
>>155640577Why do they keep watering down all their interesting concepts into generic slop?
>>155638019Fuckers working on the industry, especifically the ones on the decission making levels, are not animators or people that had their careers forged in animation, they are nepobabies from expensive and fancy private schools where they studied to be "Buisness managers" or some equally useless title while daddy or mommy pretty much payed for their degree.So they quite literally don't know any other solution other to "throw more money at it until the problem goes away"
>>155637725Still pissed that they ditched the mother-son dynamic at the last second
>>155637725Should have kept the mother/son story.
>>155641239They must be consulting chatgpt or something and doing what it says will be the most marketable to the widest audience
>>155642227It would have sucked anyway. Disney can't write a male protagonist that's not a faggot like Elio or Strange World.
>>155641518Pixar when left to their own devices can only make therapy movies by middle class Asian Americans who hate their tiger parents. If you leave Disney animators to their own devices you will just get endless variations of Asian American generational trauma movies.
>>155637725VA sounds too old for the girl and the trailer gives me a sort of Harry Potter vibe.I think i'd rather see .Ray Gunn'. It feels like a cross between Blade Runner and 5th Element. Too bad it's Netflix.
>>155638004They're hoping the film will have long legs and have a cinema run going through the holiday period. It's worked in the past for films with mediocre openings
We know it's shit anyway.
>>155643012This could just be people repeating the rumours and adding stuff that seems possible from the trailers. That said, these greentext leaks were accurate for Wish (aside from the slap but the rest seemed accurate for Jennifer Lee).If Disney had more confidence in this film we'd be seeing much more marketing and Moichondice appearing by now. It looks a lot like it's being sent out to die on the cheap like with Strange World
>>155637725I'm betting it's another Strange World scenario where they just want to dump this out and wash their hands of it because Frozen 3 next year is going to make all the money
>>155637725According to /co/. Disney buys good reviews so why bother advertising? Unless that's just a lie used everytime a movie chuds dont like gets high scores
>>155643268It's so weird how companies will make something and then not at least try to get their money back. I feel like they should cut their losses and drop it on Disney+ as "A new original movie!" (insert joke about it being unoriginal.)It sounds like whenever anything shitty drops on streaming it always manages to be somewhat more satisfying for the company, probably because people leave that shit on as background noise while they draw and talk to their friends on discord and skim furaffinity and
>>155637725Dead on arrival movie
>>155643291Marketing is expensive, a rule of thumb is you start at 50% of the budget and go up from there and you get diminishing returns. There are lots of people crunching numbers and determing at what point the marketing pays for itself. Not to mention the reputation damage from over marketing; "Times you were like Clod" could have been something that haunted Pixar for years but the film lucked out by having long legs and washing its face at the box office ("Somehow Palpatine has returned" wasn't so lucky)/>>155643290The era of Funko Pop critics worshipping Disney and being terrified at possibly losing their all expenses weekend trips to Disneyland for a premier and interviews with stars is over. People are now much more willing to critisize the company. They also no longer get away with the shield of "the first gay 18 year old girl from Ohio who does a handstand in a Non-Pixar Disney animated movie" .
>>155643335Thats retarded logic for advertsing. Seeing as how YouTube is free.
>>155637725>Cancel Owl House>Rip off concept directly to make movie with less inspired writingI don't get it. Then again, ever since I watched Witch Hat Atelier I have been rather put off by most Magic School settings.
>>155638816See that would be a twist worth watching the movie for. Give me a cute crossdressing witch girl(male).
>>155643429can you people go away so shit can be normal again
>>155643425>movie with less inspired writingThere's no fucking way you're staying Owl House's wiring was at all inspired.
>>155637766I know, right? First I’d need to know who Billie is to care what happens to her; it sounds like the tagline for a sequel.
>>155643425Hexed doesn't have foreign market isolating lesbians (I think)
>>155643442Inspired enough to filter a bunch of chuds. Its been paying out ever since everytime they cry about it
Does this film not come off as a massive Frozen ripoff to anyone else?>girl born with magic powers>paranoid parent keeps girl isolated and gives her a piece of clothing to inhibit her powers>eventually girl's powers break free>girl runs away from family to a fantastical land>other female family member must chase her down while she resists temptation to give into her dark side
>>155643374With no hype and no media on board you'll be releasing it to the void and worse, you risk the people losing interest further, either because they don't like the trailer or because they're noticing the lack of attention it gets.
>>155637725It's not radio silent. It's getting shit on by catholic radio so it has publicity as of yesterday the oatest
>>155643493This is probably the last film with the Jennifer Lee influence.>No romance>No female characters getting hurt>No female characters getting mocked or shamed>Must be empowering at all timesIt leaves very few places for stories to go, especially if you can't put in a male character who you're fine to use as a whipping boy.
>>155637725I do not care, she is hot.
>>155643620She looks like miguel in a drag.
>>155637725I don't care for Disney, but I'm pretty sure it's not gonna be a bomb.>After being expelled from school, Billie, an impulsive and unconventional teen girl, discovers magical abilitiesWomen will love it 100%.
>>155643477>It's pissing off da chudsIs there a button that automatically posts this canned response?
>>155643937No
>>155644051Yes
>>155643425>Cancel Owl House>Rip off concept directly That series was already a copy of Harry Potter.
>>155644080Which was a ripoff of The Worst Witch
>>155643978Worked out so well for Wish and Forgotten Island.
>>155638835Least they can do is yuribait.
>>155643978>an impulsive and unconventional teen girl,What total change of pace!!!
>>155644099Wish lost audiences because women found out there was going to be a faggy manic pixie dream boy they got rid of during production and then wanted to co-opt that as a way of getting attention saying they lost something women would love.
>>155643618I mean, the girl will be going through some slapstick from what we've seen in the trailer, covered in ash and mud and hitting the walls.
They really are beating this witch bullshit into the ground huh?
>>155644155Girls love witches, that's like saying "they really are beating this sword-wielding bullshit into the ground huh?"
>>155644154It can never be directly infliced by another person is probably more accurate. Being hurt by the environment is fine
>>155644155Isn't Disney making some edgy TV show about live action witches being evil and cussing and shit and it's getting praise for being more adult fare and letting women be "dark and twisted" and any other untraditional word.
>>155644097>The Worst WitchRetract it! Retract it or I'll kill you! No one insults the great Akko!
>>155644162That's why Practical Magic 2 flopped, right?
>>155644180I mean it's obviously just capeshit for girls, but damnit, try something else for five minutes.
>>155644162how many shows and movies are about sword welding right now?As opposed to this movie, Hexed, Witch Detectives, Coven Academy, Harry Potter, Witch Hunt
>>155644187Anon, it's a 50 year old book series that's had two TV adaptations and a film. One of the series even starred /tv/'s favourite girl. About a screw-up girl who goes to a strict witch boarding school.
>>155643012Why didn't they just keep the male MC then?
>>155644212Witches are capeshit for girls
Any rule 34 yet?
>>155644099The protagonist looks white enough and wears a British-style school uniform. You know it works.
>>155644352No actually. Magic, social dynamics cold war tactics and romance is cape for girlsWitches is all about making witches(who are unironically evil)seem less bad.
>>155637725>>no merchandise announced or even leaked (highly unusual for a Disney movie)That actually is unusual.
>>155644363The protagonist looks Roma. I've a suspicion this is one of the things they thought was a good idea until someone pointed out it'll tank the film in Europe.Kinda like they made a big deal on announcement about how Wish was in a setting based Spain, then people noticed it was based on Moorish Spain with a vaguely Moorish lead and pointed out that it was kinda fucked up basing the first Spanish film on occupied Spain. They never mentioned it again.
>>155644412I swear that it was going to take place in Spain until the last minute where they made it this totally fictional kingdom
>>155644386Right. Even Strange World had merch. Did they have dolls of the male protag prepared that they now have to toss in a fire?
>>155644523It takes place in the Mediterranean.
>>155644385>Magic, social dynamics cold war tactics and romance is cape for girlsThat's just witches in witch school. You're agreeing with me. Yes, they also like vampire drama porn and faerie romance erotica.
>>155638055nah man the bar can't be that low
>>155644695She will likely have a girl crush and her gayness will only be strongly implied, like inside out 2
>>155644886>like inside out 2I'm still wondering how the fuck people think this movie had any kind of lesbian coding. It's like you people spent all of your formative years masturbating to gay Naruto fanfiction.
>>155643439All Disney needs to do is toss in a line of dialogue, easily removed for foreign markets, about how destiny/fate/magic meant for Billie to be a boy and then you have trannies and their allies insisting this is the most brilliant movie ever made. It also makes the initial announcement (where she was supposed to be a boy) weirdly metatextual (canon, even).
>>155644150That was only know AFTER the film had already released and bombed.
>>155644918People don't remember or have the self awareness of what it's like to get inducted into a new friend group where you think everyone is more popular than you so you copy them in cringey ways.
>>155644918>set in San Francisco >Riley looks up to bisexual hockey player girl with red LGBTQ hairIt was extremely gay. Pixar had to edit out a lot of the explicit gayness too due to Disney studio mandate
>>155644918because people want to believe everything has gay coding. although since this was Disney, I CAN believe they were intentionally trying to slip it in.
>>155645449People working on production of Inside Out 2 publicly complained about the Disney mandate forcing them to make Riley and the movie in general less gay.
>>155645464No that was Elio.
>>155645436>bisexual hockey playerYour headcanons are not real
>>155645464The comments production staff had on Inside Out 2 were to reduce how much it was unintentionally giving subtext. It wasn't meant to be gay, they were just conscious of terminally-online people like you trying to make it about something it's not.
>>155645533It's all of them. Disney can't help themselves.Wasn't there a Disney Exec that admitted she was trying to push LGBT themes into everything?>The controversy involves two separate Disney figures who made statements during leaked internal company meetings in March 2022:>Latoya Raveneau (Executive Producer for Disney Television Animation) stated in a video that she had a "not-at-all-secret gay agenda" and was "adding queerness wherever she could" in children's animation.>Karey Burke (President of Disney General Entertainment) stated in a separate leaked video that she supported increasing LGBTQ+ and racial minority characters to make up at least 50% of Disney's content, noting she is the parent of "two queer children".
Who are Disney and their defenders going to blame this time when Hexed underperforms?>"You just don't want original movies!".We do, we just don't want BAD original movies. If animation lovers don't want original movies, then explain why Wildwood is one of the most hyped movies of the year, while almost nobody is hyped for Hexed.
>>155643600shut it christcuck
>>155645669>If animation lovers don't want original movies, then explain why Wildwood is one of the most hyped movies of the yearanon....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildwood_(novel)
>>155645669I don't even find it particularly original. Dunno if it's just me being uncharitable, but whenever I hear about this movie all I can think is that they're trying to do a repeat of The Owl House, now in 3D and fully under Disney's creative control. Am I reading too much into it? Maybe, but it just feels like they'd want to cash in on its appeal minus the drama with its creator.So all in all it just feels liked dumbed down TOH.
>TOH faggots making this about themselvesshit thread, shit board
>>155645699I don't listen to it, whore
155645609fuck off Rufo
>>155645669There's nothing original about this. It's the same generic teen finds out she has powers slop they've been shitting out for decades.
>>155645731>>155645893"Original" in the sense that it's not a sequel or a spinoff.
>>155645669you had a chance to see a GOOD original movie from Dreamworks and there's a very high chance you didn't
>>155645939*this weekend
>>155645533It was Inside out 2 too but luckily they course corrected early in production to fix it
>>155646493JFC can faggots do anything other than fag shit up?
This is just the Multiverse of Madness all over again but Wanda is a teenager this time.
>>155644918It was actually going to have more openly lesbian stuff but Disney forced them to tone it down
>>155647218This is the article that headline is from.https://www.out.com/film/disney-pixar-wanted-movies-inside-out-2-less-gayAnd you clearly did not read the article because its source is just that one IGN article, Twitter utm and all:https://www.ign.com/articles/inside-out-2-was-the-hit-pixar-needed-but-the-laid-off-employees-who-crunched-on-it-are-still-hurting?utm_source=threads,twitter...Which affirms >>155645592>Sources describe rumors that there was special care put into making the relationship between Riley and Val, a supporting character introduced in Inside Out 2, seem as platonic as possible, even requiring edits to the lighting and tone of certain scenes to remove any trace of “romantic chemistry.” One source describes it as "just doing a lot of extra work to make sure that no one would potentially see them as not straight.">It’s worth noting that Pixar released a short in 2015 that followed Riley’s first date with a boy.>It’s worth noting that Pixar released a short in 2015 that followed Riley’s first date with a boy. You're deliberately conflating the studio trying to avoid there being any kind of undertones that could hint at queerness with there being LGBT themes present that were abruptly changed. Those are two completely different things. You probably would have known this if you actually read the damn articles you're posting instead of just the headlines you vapid midwit.
>>155647672Third quote was supposed to be>Another source calls some leadership “uncomfortable” with queer themes at large, and the insistence on keeping those themes out of Inside Out 2 was “a big thing throughout” development
>>155638401teenage pregnancy because they are gypsies
>>155642271grim...
>>155645919yeah, I get that but that's the only way it has a claim to originality. It very well should just be sequel to something, it's so stale.
>>155637766Is it a reference to some old song or classic witch story maybe?
>>155647218That's almost all the kids of Disney are all gay
>>155637725slop
>>155637725mmmm slop
Shit movie
>>155645669>WildwoodWho?
>>155644187>>155644219The creator of LWA does credit The Worst Witch as a big influence. Nobody is insulting Akko anon.
witchcraft is cringe...
>>155643012Do we have any more BTS leaks?
>>155643012>>155653185>believing random 4chan postshow old are you?
>>155653080And wizardry isn't?
>>155654072Two shit things that go shit together, like herpes and syphilis or you and posting.
>>155647672Cope
>>155637766fucking chatgpt safety quip ass tagline
>>155654072How it's presented in media, yes, wizardry is far more interesting and you can expand and stretch a story out much further from there.
>>155643978It will flop harder than Raya. Women love cute witch stuff, not this.
>>155654936Funny how Raya is seen as the benchmark for modern Disney bombs and not Wish.
>>155655583Raya took less money (although it probably lost about the same as Wish did) and was their first big bomb. Raya also has a bit less of a favourable view as it was just a bad product with a lousey message whereas Wish had some potential but was ruined by Studio/Jennifer Lee interference.Wish with a K-pop love interest and power-couple villains would have been a much better film. Remains to be seen if the terrible song lyrics would have persisted though. It's funny how Hasbin Hotel of all things showed up the awful writing.
>>155637725>Lesbian Jeet heroine Biggest Disney flop If they release this
>still no full trailerWell, it officially is now the longest they have waited for a second trailer for a WDAS movie in over a decade. How are we feeling?
>>155644323Because the Force is female chud
>>155637766>Coming soon>Disney's "Film" (2027)>... yep, that sure is a movie.>In theaters May 28
>>155656455On the subject of trailers, the Hexed teaser has half the views the Wish one did. DOA.
>>155645731Owl House did not invent witches and portal stories. The original story wasn’t even about a girl but a little boy entering the world with her mom, so not like owl house where they separated. Though I will say they shot themselves in the foot when they changed it to a girl just this year, so while it’s definitely not an intentional rip off, it deserves the insults for how late they decided to change everything.
>>155644524>Did they have dolls of the male protag prepared that they now have to toss in a fire?At this point they should go with the male protag.
>>155637725They need to be put out of their misery.
Why did they change the protagonist from a boy to a girl?
>>155654262No, YOU.
>make movie with a prominent male character>remove the male character in favour of more brown girls>it bombs>make a movie with a prominent male character>remove the male character in favour of more brown girls>it bombs>make a movie with a prominent male character>remove the male character in favour of more brown girls>...
>>155656930Name two times that happened
>>155656835They thought the mother/son scenes were too sexual and predatory in nature. They didn’t want to be accused of grooming.
>>155657142No they just felt a mom daughter relationship worked better. Weird as fuck to decide that a year before release. How much of this fucking movie did they redo?
>change first letter>problem solved
>>155657142If they made her act like Mother Gothel toward Rapunzel I can see that but the mom seems like she'll be very quirky
>>155657240Vexed?
So where's the trailer at? Disney usually shits a trailer out end of September.
Apparently they have a photo-op for this film now in some random UK shopping mall? Seems way early to be doing this given we are two months away, was this shit originally meant to release on Halloween or something?
>>155637766>the elipsisThey know
>>155654936>>155655583>>155656341Such a goddamn shame because Sisu deserved so much better
>>155658177waifufags keep getting more stupid but i cant blame them when no good female characters are being made so you have to resort to shit like this
>>155657717> november 27Gee i wonder
>>155658197She was a 10/10 character in a 3/10 movie
>>155656517you said this same shit about Zootopia 2's trailer having less views than Zootopia 1's and look at how that turned out
>>155658274Zootopia 2 was a sequel, people were idiots if they said it would flop. Nobody gives a shit about whatever the fuck Hexed is.
Trailer has to be today or it's definitely suspicious
>>155637725Shouldn't Disney Hogwarts be a slam dunk even if it's lame telekinesis magic?
>>155643425Point of Order: Witch Hat Atelier is less of a Witch School and more of Witch Tutoring. It's really fucking good too, so I can't fault you.
>>155658713Witch Hat Atelier is Naruto for girls with gay Gojo as the Kakashi sensei.
>>155658608They tried it with Owl House and it was a ratings failure. Also descendants is basically Disney hogwarts featuring villain offspring, not to mention witches of Waverly place which is also Disney hogwarts.
>>155644097No it wasn't, they're very different
>>155658317Why does it have to be today
>>155658829Because this is the day they've released their WDAS movie trailer every year for like five movies in a row now
>>155656341Raya was released in theaters during COVID lockdowns wasn’t it? I remember I worked from home full time and pirated it It was an awful movie though
>>155658870If that’s the case and it does come out today then why is everyone freaking the fuck out that there hasn’t been a trailer yetI’m rooting for this movie to fail btw
>>155658822Nigga everybody knows that Rowling ripped off tons of shit from Worst Witch.
>>155658890First teaser (June) was really late (usually April). Then the trailer shown off at Annecy was just a rearrangement of the teaser, suggesting they had nothing else ready. This has sparked rumours of production trouble.
>>155658943Also, whispers of really bad test screenings and no sign of any merchandise in a film that should lean heavy towards the young girl audience.There's been a first 30 minutes screening and the response has been fairly predictably steered by Disney. A lot of atendees talking about how it's totally not a tik tok shot movie and that it has big wide angle shots and how it totally brings to mind a famous Disney animator of the past that they've all obviously heard of and whose style they recognise!
>>155658943This is reverse psychology marketing to get people talking about the film via controversy and you’re all falling for it
>>155658943>>155659003God I hope this is true. I’ve heard nothing about the test screenings though.
>>155658890>I’m rooting for this movie to fail btw>because fuck people for doing their jobs and assignmentswhat the hell is wrong with you
>>155659042I hate shitney and I love making fun of them. Cry about it disneyadult tranny
>>155658937Murphy herself acknowledges Rowling didn't rip her off. They do have a lot of similarities though >>155658822
>>155659097>Murphy herself acknowledges Rowling didn't rip her offOh I'll just ignore the evidence of my own eyes and ears then, since Murphy said so.
>>155659075Literally me
>>155659075you sound like a sad individual
>>155659115There are still a lot of differences and the stories go in very different directions. It's not that original a premise.
>>155659461Yeah Worst Witch is basically about a girl who isn't very good at magic and keeps making bad decisions trying to avoid getting expelled. Ocassionally she gets involved in a big plot by accident but there's no real ongoing menace.
>>155659625School type shows work better without some save the world plot. Harry Potter fans cannot give a fuck about the Death Eaters shit, they just want a high school series about a magic school.
>>155637725I'm expecting another Onward situation where dorky, unsure of herself main character fumbles around in a fantasy world that is endless pop culture references and every monster is actually some quirky metropolitan hipster type with fangs and everyone is nice all the time, all conflict is really nonstop misunderstandings, etc. Overall a movie about nothing, but with monsters and goblins roaming around making 80s pop culture references and random RPG shit.
>>155659736There are antagonists but they'll probably end up not really being villains (Jennifer Lee being involved).They're actually pretty hot so could end up being a lot of art of them.
>>155659771Anyone notice that only 'bad' characters get tits now in Disney films?
>>155644918Honestly I think its just a matter of most adults venting out their sexual desires/frustrations onto the media they watch as a form of projection. >I want sex therefore these characters I like also want sexIm a victim of it myself but I dont bring up that kind of shit when discussing these kind of topics but some people cant help themselves. People see what they want to see
>art book not out til a month after the movieThe fuck? Why is this release all so backwards?
>>155659771Get ready for more>People only fear us because they don't understand us>They are intimidated by a powerful woman!!!sympathetic vampire shit all over again
>>155644918Because EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. you see two people talking or hanging out in a movie, the rainbow squad is compelled to start calling them a couple and are definitely fucking, are definitely LGBT of any type Coded, and get right to work shaming the fuck out of anyone that does not agree how Gay coded some pairing is. Twitter fags really do not understand the concept of friends at all. Every two people that have anything to do with each other is always labeled couple and some intentional ship from the writers every time.Any two characters. No exceptions>Two girls speaking to each other in just one scene>Two boys>Two siblings>Kid and Parent>Boy and Dog>Girl and Robot>Cheese and GhostIt doesn't matter, we see two characters speaking...they're an intentional ship!!!!! Disney WANTED us to know this was a ship and Cheese is gay!!!!
>>155656930
>>155659771I expect them to become Billy's friend because they are rebels like her and praise her but then she kinda slips into becoming evil instead of just rebel, but she has a good heart so she stops before it's too late and the witche's queen bee gets mad and go all in but it's not really her fault they had an evil person manipulating them and even her realize it so at the end they fight together and Billy sacrifices her magic and they go back home and in the end Billy is still a rebel at school but not a failure and she has friends. Post credits is new transfer student and they are the witches from magicland
>why don't you kids want a plushie of the aging alcoholic cat in a sleazy jacket?
A lot of modern animation would look so much better if they banned the use of purple
>>155656930You all hated Elio and Strange World so this is what you get.
>>155660694Elio was a pretty normal and super straight-coded movie but Strange World had a gay person or something in it so of course /co/ ignored it.
>>155660745Elio was supposed to be a heavily gay-coded character originally and Disney was realizing that alienating their last male audience might not be too wise. The parents too, were wondering why so many gay characters are being pushed front and center to kiddos.>Strange World It was ignored for a LOT of reasons, including just being a vehicle for tokenism and a majorly shit story.
>>155660796The gay kid is not even the most notable thing about Strange World. The story is amazingly bad. The themes are muddled. The dialogue is appalling. And it is just so slow and tedious and boring.
>>155660848This too. It's a shame, because Disney has been lacking in a proper adventure movie for a while and we get... Strange World. Kind of reminds of be Onward too, and how terrible that was. Someone at Disney really needs to hire someone who isn't gay, woke or female to write these movies.
>>155637725>yet another barely concealed brown femoid's sloptastic whinefest about how she didn't fit in when she was a kid>this time the cover theme is a school for magicYawn
>>155637725This movie was supposed to be a mother son one with a Witch and her son learning magic and going to adventures together, would have sold more but they gotta add foids in everything.
>>155662285>a mother son one with a Witch and her son learning magic and going to adventures togetherThat premise alone was already poisoned as it would have spawned the greatest deluge of degenerate incest porn in our generation.>B-But yuri artist would have also-Not even remotely close to the same amount and you know it.Disney has its bad habits but in this one case they acted prudently and saved themselves the trouble.
>originally pitched as Filipino-inspired>scrapped>BeFri, a story about two friends, scrapped from PixarIs Disney really that worried about Dreamworks?
>>155662352>That premise alone was already poisoned as it would have spawned the greatest deluge of degenerate incest porn in our generationThat would have unironically saved the movie don't lie unless you're some moral faggot. Also the mom isn't even that hot for that to happen. Trashed a somewhat intersting story for usual foid slop box office bomb that they have been churning out for decades.
>>155662352Hotel Transylvania had mother son stuff in it with Mavis and her son yet we didn't see any incest come out of it. Foid MCs will always be trash and also everybody at this point is tired of muh mother daughter and father daughter shit get something fucking new like a mother son story.
>>155658298Its not merely that Zootopia 2 was a sequel but you forget that the entire Zootopia franchise encompasses what normies are stupid for, Look At The Silly Talking Animals. In general normies are shit for brains for this cliche which is why Ice Age sequels make so much money. Talking Animals has always been a For Sure thing to make money. And if you don't believe me look at how much media and spin offs Disney's Dalmatians has gotten, why? Because said talking animals are profitable.
>>155662645t. sad incel
>>155638004People like stories of brother and sister in a magical setting. Onward 2, but replacing the obese morbid big brother with a big sister.
>>155662734Yawn bait better trannoid.
>>155644191more likely because nobody was asking for a sequel to practical magic
155662741you first nazi
>>155662364Disney re-released Avengers on the same day that the only Dreamworks movie of the year came out, yes they are obsessed (Not that they even needed to sabotage Forgotten Island, but the fact that they did is pathetic enough)
>>155662801this is probablyI’ve worked at one of the big American animation studios before and they really do keep obsessive tabs on each other, I genuinely believe Be Fri at least was cancelled because of forgotten island, which is funny in hindsight
>another witch movie made for money laundering.
>>155662894>Hercules and AladdinThose specifically focused on them as protagonists though...>But Disney has never been a male oriented company.You're right, it was originally family media orientated company.
I don't get it, is making any animation which isn't grubhub commercial marshmallow plastic faces lost technology? Have we forgotten how to make interesting art? arr rook same
>>155637725This movie will be dogshit and it will make a gorillion dollars.
>>155663074this doesn't look like Grubhub at all you stupid fucking autist
>>155663014>Mars Needs MomsThere was barely screen time of the mom>PokemonSold a lot so it doesn't matter.
>>155663055>He's not different than other lame males like Disney's Luca or ElioIdk the movies he appeared in still made money unlike these daughter faggotry foid slips which even women don't watch. Also no shit boys are not gonna watch your stuff if you don't carer to them properly, no wonder most young boys watch anime and western animation is dying. Keep making shitty box office bombs for foids.
>>155663055Retard my point is Mavis is a hot milf character by the later movies yet we don't see any incest stuff of her and her son like the other guy was implying would happen if this movie had a mother son story line, also the mom isn't even hot for that to happen.
>>155663014The moms in those movies barely had any screen time or spent time with their son , whereas this movie was actually going to have a mom be WITH her son during the whole movie as they go on adventures.
>>155663286>No one cares about lame minute characters like Mavis' lame sonStop with cope, he literally has a whole movie dedicated to him and it didn't bomb like these muh daughter flops.
>>155663350They also have dedicated genre for young boys(shounen) which makes manga and anime which young boys can relate to, which is now lost in western animation.
>>155663379Does it matter? A character (who has more depth than these female MCs) like that is still making more money than muh daughter flops.
WTF is wrong with WDA's production pipeline? How did Zootopia 2 manage to get released with little speed bumps? (That I know of.)
Why the fuck are there so many deleted posts in this thread, was it all one samefag who just got banned
>>155663388>that sentence>applying to any animu post 2010good joke
>>155647218>"less gay"that makes about as much sense as making a person "less straight".
>>155660694>just eat the slop bro
>>155662754but girls love witches, right? >>155644162
>>155662364Disney knew Be Fri would flop spectacularly and it was actually a smart move to cancel it early. They should have done the same with Elio.
>>155660796Elio being gay wasn't in and of itself the problem, it was Elio being gay in a way that most people, including gay guys, would find odd. Also gay or not Elio's story is fat lot of nothing.
>>155660848I would argue it has one of the worst openings ever put to film. In the first few minutes it uses jokes to undermine any sense of peril and the emotional stakes of the father/son conflict.
Welp here you go anonhttps://x.com/DiscussingFilm/status/2105152552102711616
>>155667004Kek, the description is basically Harry Potter.
>>155667041I don't doubt there's more, but it's not a good sign that instead of misdirecting towards comedy like they do with anything novel, the ad crew is just straight-up hoping you don't look into this if you're not a hardcore slop consumer.
>>155667004>same adorkable "whoa did I just do that????" dialogue that has infested Disney for years>stupid prat fall undermining the tension of the scene, inability to be sincere>the magic looks and sounds genericThey release a 20 second clip instead of a trailer and THIS is the very first scene they decide to show off?! They really have nothing.
>>155667004Looks like it's going down a treat!
>>155667004Magic girl goes to magic world.… okay? And what is the plot?
>>155667004Do Disney really have no writing mode anymore beyond "LMAO I AM SO AWKWARD AND QUIRKY, LOL WHOOPSIE DAISY, HURR DID THAT JUST HAPPEN??"
>>155667004Serious question, does anyone have any idea what the plot of this movie is? Other than her going to Mousewarts or whatever, what is the conflict?
>>155667603Nobody knows and I suspect the writers don't either, this thing has been to production hell and back
>>155667603I am guessing, based on those three angry other witches, she's unwanted or upsets someone, or she has to look for something, the name Hex kind of makes me think she might have been "hexed" and she has to "unhex" herself or something. But your guess is as good as mine. They really didn't reveal anything from the plot other than "she's a heckin quirky grill who doesn't fit in".
>>155667603The conflict is that it will make a gorillion dollars and have 3 sequels despite Disney being the worst animation studio on the planet
>>155662482dennis and johnny were ugly gingers but even then people preferred to ship dennis with the wolf girl that's into him
>>155667603the conflict is that her mom fled magic land with her because her dad is voldemort
>https://x.com/Alastor73369185/status/2105175126262120553Someone leaked the next preview. Billie goes anthro, so at least maybe the porn will be good?
>>155668017>FROM THE STUDIO THAT BROUGHT YOU FROZEN AND THE LION KING
>>155637725If they dont spend 800 trillion in advertising then it'll lose money
>>155637725Is there any potential scenario where this does worse than Forgotten Island? Because that already did very poorly.
Someone pointed out that this film has no credited screenwriters, and holy fuck, it's actually true.
>>155668189It's okay, Chat GPT doesn't care if it's credited or not.
it's not even out and it already shits on both Owl House and Amphibia, impressive.
>>155668017>>155668056>It's Darwin's grab bag!
>>155668017villain is a pink witch... Let me guess, grandma who let her daughter go wants to bond with her granddaughter instead? Or just the mother's sister who fell on the dark side? We know it's gonna be familly, "I'm special" stories always revolve around familly.
curious to see how bad this is going to be, but not enough to pay for a seat.
>>155668378It is so sad that this once great studio is now in such a slump that everyone just expects their originals to be bad rather than getting excited. Meanwhile the sequels effortlessly hoover up cash.
>>155668017so what if it's just Merlin for girls? Billy goes in magic land, does the tour with a local magician figure, then the magician figths some evil comically and in just kinda ends because they have no more ideas for little quirky magic sketchs to tell?
Twitter is already tearing the clip apart, even the animation is cinema autists are mocking itIt's so over, no wonder they don't want to release a trailer
>>155668503there's not enough new content to have a new wave of hate imo.
>>155668017>>155668056>https://x.com/Alastor73369185/status/2105175126262120553Kek, how do you make literal whimsy and magic that generic and boring looking, holy fuck, who is making this behind the scenes.>Directors: Fawn Veerasunthorn and Jason HandGirly directed Wish, go figure. Goy directed Moana 2...>Co-Director: Josie TrinidadNo experience co-directing, and was head of story for Zootopia and Ralph Breaks the Internet (good god...)>Producers: Roy Conli and Yvett MerinoGoy co-produced Hunchback of Notre Dame, Treasure Planet and Tangled. Girly's biggin was Encanto as a producer.>Writer: Jon Robin BaitzLiterally nothing jumps out at me.Is this the best Disney can do. XD
>>155667004>The gawdang adorkable quirky she thing
>>155668638>Writer: Jon Robin BaitzSource on this? Lots of people reporting the film doesn't have any writer's names attached.
>>155668017If they make the villainess turn into a dragoness, this movie will at least be a 5/10
>>155668658It's in the Hexed wiki.>https://hexed.fandom.com/wiki/Hexed#CrewI just Googled it, and it gave some sources. It looks like there might be 4 or 5 writers attached.>Jon Robin Baitz>Josie Trinidad>C.H. Greenblatt>Monica “Monty” Ray
>>155668638>director of WishWHY THE FUCK IS THIS BITCH BEING ALLOWED ANYWHERE NEAR ANOTHER MAJOR FILM PROJECT
>>155668677First of all, fan wikis are less than worthless, they are ran by autists who just headcanon their dream crew picks. BUT if that list is legit this film is fucked. Those are all millennial TV writers.
>>155668704Most of the info tracks with the main information on the official Disney website.>https://movies.disney.com/hexed>https://www.imdb.com/title/tt38077943/fullcredits/>BUT if that list is legit this film is fucked. Those are all millennial TV writers.I'm putting my money on it now, that's who the writers are. Disney's talent acquisition looks like it's been hitting rock bottom as of late.
>>155667004>>155668704Also, I found this.>https://press.disney.co.uk/press-kit/hexed-media-kitClick the big button, project profile:>In Walt Disney Animation Studios' all-new magical coming-of-age saga, “Hexed,” an impulsive and unconventional teenage girl named Billie (voice of Hailee Steinfeld) discovers secret magical abilities which, once unleashed, hurtle her into a spectacle-filled journey out of suburbia and into a vast witch realm called Hexe. Forced to team up with her cautious mother, Alice (voice of Rashida Jones), they uncover family mysteries that could change the world of witches forever. Directed by Fawn Veerasunthorn and Jason Hand, co-directed by Josie Trinidad and produced by Roy Conli, Disney’s “Hexed” opens exclusively in cinemas November 27, 2026.>Walt Disney Animation Studios’ all-new magical coming-of-age saga “Hexed” follows anunconventional teenage girl who discovers secret magical abilities that, once unleashed,hurtle her into a spectacle-filled journey through a hidden realm of witches.
>>155668800>a vast witch realm called HexeOh come the fuck on man. They're not even trying.
>>155668853Kek, it is pretty wild. This shit is already starting to smoke outta the dumpster. XD
>>155637725ROLL!
New clip or whatever https://x.com/DiscussingFilm/status/2105152552102711616
>>155668907You're a bit behind anon, we have all been shitting on it for hours
What are women obsessed with witchcraft?
> The books in the series all focus on Mildred Hubble, a young witch who attends Miss Cackle's Academy for Witches, a school of magic. Although well-intentioned, Mildred's clumsy personality leads the girl to disastrous situations, and she is thus considered the worst student in the school. The benevolent headmistress, Miss Cackle, is generally understanding, whereas Mildred's form teacher Miss Hardbroom thinks she just is not trying hard enough. Mildred's friends include Maud Spellbody, a rotund, sensible girl who is always trying to avoid confusion, and Enid Nightshade, a practical joker who is more likely than Mildred to get them all into trouble. The three girls have a strong rivalry with Ethel Hallow, a high-born, snobbish and vindictive classmate.Yo this is literally just Harry Potter. What the fuck?
>>155668943They know they deserved to be burned to death.
>>155660848It also follows the theme of horrible changes.The designs for the male character were actually pretty appropriate and marketable, before they turned him into a disgusting goblin.One of the most remarkable aspects of modern left-wing artistry is they believe fully in diversity and body positivity, so they represent minorities in the least flattering way possible.Nobody who is a young gay kid wants to be associated with some fat mutt.
>>155668975What is this from? Because if this is from the actual story for Hexed, it is indeed, like someone's AO3 sfw fan-fic ripoff of a watered down Harry Potter writing.
>>155669108That's from The Worst Witch
>>155668704>>155668748Greenblatt is talented though, he made Chowder, Harvey Beaks and the
>>155669208>>155668704I seriously fucking doubt C.H. Greenblatt would work for Disney, a lot of well-known TV cartoonists in the 90s fucking hated modern Disney and still do whether they’re open about it for not. Take people like Danny Antonucci and those guys from Spumco for example, I feel like a most golden age SpongeBob alumni would to.
>>155667004>ERMMMM WELL THAT JUST HAPPENEDWhy will this FUCKING kind of shitty FUCKING dialogue not just FUCKING die
>>155669329Shame that Netflix screwed over Danny's projects
>>155644323In this economy?
It's just Alice in wonderland, even the cat is just a bootleg
>>155664343My only guess is that Jared Bush and Byron Howard are the only two who can actually make a movie and the others are all wokies/diversity hires that cannot make their own films. Which is probably why Jared is now in charge of the whole thing. He's the only person they got worth a damn.
>>155667004Oh so this is gonna be a special kind of terrible. Okay. >>155668638>>155668677Why tf are Greenblatt and Monica Ray on this? That seems like an odd choice and both usually only do TV.
>>155644323Moids aren't marketable
>even internet's premier animation autist is pulling a James Rolfe with this garbageWell done Disney.
>>155669801This guy ranked Strange World above Cinderella and Lady and the Tramp in his Disney ranking, he's an absolute moron.
>>155669511I dont remember Alice getting telekinesis. All the stuff that happened to her was much more interesting, like growing tiny or big.
>>155669848an yet there we fall into a hole, meet a talking cat and talking object, walks in wackyland and get trandformed, and the villain is a misterious tall woman wearing a shade of red. They don't talk about the plot because it's gonna be 1 hour of wacky work walk with just drama to jumpstart it and to finish it
Some autists in this thread have said it already but I think it bears repeating: this is now the longest a trailer for a WDAS movie has been delayed.
>>155637725It's the November movie, they usually just fart them out and be done with it
>>155670041I thought that was January movies. November is the valued holiday season.
>>155670041No, Thanksgiving movies are the big deal tentpole ones.
>>155670054>>155670060Even if this movie bombs, Avengers Doomsday comes out like 3 weeks later
>>155670113That’s a December movie. Totally different thing.
>>155670060Not to say the November movie isn't good but their marketing is nothing compared to the summer movie
>>155670060>implyng the movie doesn't end with a giant turkey feat between humans and witches
>>155637766I walk past this poster dozens of time a week at work and every single time, I cannot believe that that's the tagline.>>155637725Yes OP, this movie is doomed to fail. Unless it ends up being a musical with a catchy soundtrack nobody is going to see this. Everyone who saw them hated Elio, Strange World and Wish. Forgotten Island and Teenage Kraken bombed. Families don't want to take their kids to see ambiguously brown women proving to their parents how they should be running the household while they run around freestyling and making fools of themselves. The want movies like Puss In Boots 2 or, I say this very begrudgingly, David. Movies with a clear villain, a clear goal and traditional morals. This kind of millennial slop isn't even appealing to teenage gen alpha/zoomettes when they used to be able to coast on that teenage girl audience during the 2010s. They're all at home posting theories about clark backrooms. They don't give a fuck about relatable brown woman who "has anxieties". They want to see real flaws again.
Watch it turn out like Hoppers and a Tully be good. That would be hilarious if it’s actually good and no one watches it in theaters.
>>155670284Hoppers wasn't fucked by production and was made by someone who actually has vision, so it is highly unlikely. You can usually tell these things long beforehand, people just don't know what to look for
>>155670323Hoppers had the worst previews man, I was convinced that movie was trash. I’ll admit after watching it I was wrong. All I’m saying is would t it be cool if this movie was actually good.
>https://x.com/epppyyy/status/2105288108749238627>entire scene fits in centre frameThey can't deny the allegations anymore.
>>155670376Well, I don't mean this in a condescending way. I understand that this level of attention is difficult when you have other hobbies and life things going on. But I'm more of a /tv/ guy and like I said, people don't know what to look at. Hoppers was written and directed by Daniel Chong, the creator of We Bare Bears. Whether you like that show or not, it has a unique voice and creative spirit to it. It's also rare for a Disney movie to have so few writers (it's just him, another guy and two more "additional story by" which is usually reserved for people who help figure out a difficult tonal shit or how to pad out the story breakdown, not really involved in actually writing the scenes) but it means it's going to be more focused and true to the original creator's intent.Now look Hexed >>155668638It's going to be shit. I don't want it to be shit, I'm not one of those "burn everything down and restart" guys. But it's damn near impossible to look at the people behind this, the production history of the film and say "gee williker I hope this is secretly good!" We're looking at another Lightyear here.
>>155669354> >ERMMMM WELL THAT JUST HAPPENEDthis is literally VERBATIM a line said by Shrek in the upcoming Shrek 5 disaster
>>155670618> Hoppers was written and directed by Daniel Chong, the creator of We Bare Bears. Whether you like that show or not, it has a unique voice and creative spirit to it. It's also rare for a Disney movie to have so few writers (it's just him, another guy and two more "additional story by"I wish people would have the same mentality for Forgotten Island (the only writers are Joel and Januel, the directors, who also directed The Last Wish)But whatever
>hey Fawn, great job on Wish! You took an interesting concept and watered it down into corporate sludge that bombed worldwide and made our 100th anniversary into a laughing stock! Would you like another film to direct?I am agape at this woman being allowed to touch anything else.
>first scene shown of The Owl House was Luz stepping on giant monster eyes>first scene shown of Hexed is Billie Adorkable stepping on giant monster eyes>Disney: "IT ISN'T AN OWL HOUSE RIPOFF WE SWEAR."
>>155669329didn't he have a disney pitch for some pet resort showbesides, out of the people you mentioned, greenblatt is the most likely to work with disney considering he's more open to doing "wholesome" and toned down stuff like harvey beaks and his new krypto the superdog show
If I see one more animated protagonist doing this "ERRRR WAIT WHAT" type MCU quip shit while making this EXACT expression I am going to throttle somebody
>>155670763too bad neither show makes it hot by making it adequately wet and slimy
>>155670795i remember reading somewhere that annoying expressions like this is an attempt at making them look asymmetric, since they make their 3d models look perfectly symmetrical by default
>>155670658I did and I still ended up hating it. I'm also not particularly left leaning so I mean this when I say it, the way it confused Phillipines culture with Mexico was actual racism
>>155671116>the way it confused Phillipines culture with Mexico was actual racismThey share Spanish colonialism bringing Catholicism, so some commonalities are possible.
>>155637725The new animation courtyard in Disney World features it a good deal so either that was planned in advance with no backup or they're not actually cowering just yet.
>>155637725From what I've seen from the clips it's Owl House if you remove the gay and multiply the Quirk Chungus by 10
>>155671116T. White savior Not a single Filipino shares this “opinion”also I don’t even believe you watched it, I believe you saw that one clip they posted online and that’s it
>>155637725I have seen plenty of marketing for it
>>155671279I stayed after my shift on Monday to watch it completely by myself in the middle of the night, it fucking sucked. I hated the characters(especially the big baby and the merman), I hated all the stupid anime faces they ripped off from K-Pop Demon Hunters (I hated it there, too), I hated Dave Franco's performance were he just did the exact same thing he did in Hoppers, I hated the twist villain and how "actually she was good all along agoraphobia is very serious please academy acknowledge us just like when we made panic attacks a thing" and I hated the plot. A lot of the animation was wonky, especially in the background. Caracters kept jumping between keyframes without any tweens. The score was some gross mexican pixel videogame 8-bit 80's bullshit and the soundtrack was just all american 80's hits.And no I'm not a white savior niggers and pajeets can get fucked but they genuinely confused the Philippines with Mexico. They made the main character obsessed with takis for fucks sake, how do you not see that they mixed up two completely different countries?
>>155671372goddamn lol they completely removed my spoilers I better not get banned for saying some no no words
>>155671372>nobody is allowed to eat hot Cheetos except spicsYeah go fuck yourself mouse shill
>>155637725I think she's hot. She's a gypsy isn't she? Still would tho. >MORE LIKE SEXED
>>155671420I literally haven't watched a new Disney movie since strange world because of how bad it was. Sounds like I offended some part of you that wants to fuck the animated bitch from DreamWorks hit film "Forgotten Island". Pick a different anthill faggot
>>155671458Nobody believes you shill
>>155671420>>155671458Well, until hoppers because of>>155670618
>>155671469Jesus christ you fags love throwing that word around. I'm a shill if I like primetime and I'm a shill if I thought Forgotten Island is awful and the new Disney slop looks like hot garbage. Pick another buzzword.
>>155671372The “Takis” in the movie are called “Cheezins” which is a reference to an extremely popular Filipino brand called Cheezys you fucking retard
>>155671511lol when the shills first criticism he can think of is “it’s muh racism” and the only example he can point to is “muh takis” and he can’t even get that right mouse isn’t sending its best
>>155669801>giving a shit about what the biggest Mouse contrarian has to say
>still no trailerAt this stage I suspect they're holding it for Halloween to try and capitalize on that.
>>155668503Twitter isn't real life, it never was
>>155667671>despite Disney being the worst animation studio on the planetIllumination exists so no
>>155667491>literal who>probably made up shit from a loser
>>155671955At least illumination almost kind of tried to do something different with Minions and Monsters even if it was just circlejerking Hollywood
>>155669801He is going to see it just like every other larper who pretends to be so offended by the latest Disney shit flick and it will be the second highest grossing animated film of the year just barely behind the other Dixar shit flick
>>155671842>>155671898>>155671955>>155671969Ah, the Disney shills have arrived! Assuming you have been given your orders because of the backlash to the clip?
>>155672028>Oh no, someone is posting actual criticism!!!>Better call them a shill, that AWLAYS works!
>>155671162They were still doing Wish promotion at WDW while it was in theaters even after it was apparent no one was watching the film. Promotional material is paid in advance so it's a sunk cost; last minute pivots would cost even more money because everything would be a rush job.
>>155672169>>155671162Has there ever been a Disney movie they DIDNT advertise at land/world? I remember seeing strange world posters at Disneyland, which come to think of it is probably the only place I ever saw any ads for that movie. It’s literally just free advertising that reaches .01% of the population (mostly spics- although Hexed is probably going to appeal mostly to Spics anyway)
Legendarily botched marketing campaign for this film thus far. Let's barely make any trailers and release only the lamest clips possible.
>>155637725The depressing thing is that I could actually see myself buying tickets for my kids to the proposed movie about a 6-year-old with magic powers trying to find common ground with his normie mother. But I'll be deep in the dirt before I shell out money for QUIRKY BROWN TEENAGE GIRL WITH MOMMY PROBLEMS #8372545.
>>155660145Usually ends up being something like this. I can't lie, I do ship characters too, but it's headcanon at the end of the day, and I wont blow my gasket if it's never acknowledge in canon. Like, I'm not gonna be like "THEY BAITED US!" or something.
>>155671955>it's not really shit, because you must OWN THE ENEMY TRIBEevery time
>>155662352>as it would have spawned the greatest deluge of degenerate incest porn in our generation.And that would be on the people who made it. I just wanted a mother/son story because you just don't get that shit at all. Closest thing is mother/son stuff in cartoons as an episode premise.
>>155668638>co-produced Hunchback of Notre Dame, Treasure Planet and TangledGood movies, shame he's not in charge overall.
>>155668853Could have just called it Wizard City and I'd personally be fine with it.
>>155668975Harry wasn't a bad wizard, even at the start and no Hermione stand in, but Ethel is a ringer for Draco and everything else tracks.
>>155637725God I really need to rape this brown slut.
>>155637725after burying The Owl House saying it wasn't on brand for them. Turning around on the whole "Witches is not our thing... to Satanic!" and here we are... most generic of generic witch slop. They already had a witch show, it was quite popular for their target audience and they killed it.
>>155658247she was voiced by that one asian chick, that's an automatic 4/10 AT BEST
>>155668943Abandonment issues. Magic makes you strong, hot, and confident enough to casually raise you above any social dynamics that used to scare you, and then provides you with the means to attract and discard potential handbags and trophies at your leisure.It's the same reason /a/ slobbers over Isekai cheat skill bullshit. Except instead of the male need to prove one's worth by doing a gorillion reps and outthinking a floating blue box, this one has the female need to not be responsible for the destruction of one's enemies. It has to all come naturally or all the self-doubt starts to bleed up through the mask.
>>155671162Back when it was an actual animation studio they heavily promoted whatever was being animated at the time in Orlando. Remember thm showing off a pretty raw clip of Hercules when I went back in the day.
>>155669801That hair is so overfucking designed. I totally believe this screwup slacker would have hair that takes half an hour to style every morning and constant maintenence.
>>155668943casting spells gives a feeling of control without direct involvement
>>155668017>scene involving my Fetish spottedExcellent...
this movie is gonna flop so hard kek
>>155674516Why does everyone think thisMaybe I’m just too cynical but I’m convinced the generic same face Disney princess looking characters alone are going to carry this movie to an easy 300million
>>155674055Even in the Bible women were obsessed with witchcraft. It's their version of sports.
>>155674548It depends entirely on if they can bribe enough influencers to get Twitter & Co. on their side.
>>155674592It doesn’t matter what influencers or social media says, little girls will see Rapunzel in a wig for the twentieth time and beg their parents to take them to the theater
>>155674548If Disney had confidence in this, there would be a marketing blitz by now and merchandise would start flooding everywhere. Raya had more merchandise and hype at this stage
>>155654072Wizards do it because it's cool. Witches do it to "feel empowered".
>>155674691Why even create a movie if you're just going to sabotage it? is disney stupid?
Disney have basically said this is the last of the Frozen design era films (outside of sequels)Will Disney find a new signiature design of their own or are we going to see more low fps spiderverse shit? Is Penelope still their next fairy tale movie?
>>155658177Why do they keep trying to make Awkwafina a thing? Who's she related to?
>>155674691Regardless the way I see it the movie will have to be not just catastrophically bad but it will have to be actively offensive to the average parent in order to bombIn reality it’s probably just going to be a boring movie with bad writing that little girls will overlook because cute self insert witch girls
>>155674737You don't throw good money after bad. Fundamental rule of business. A reputation hit of highlight failures in glowing lights also hits them long run.>>155674761Chris Evians
>>155674565no, shipping is their version of sports. witchcraft is their version of history autism.
>>155674737>is disney stupid?Yes
>>155674776This is the thing people don't get about bombs.Wether it's a good film or a bad film, the absolute worst thing it can do is look uninteresting. A film that produces no emotions gets no discussion and no interest. It's something Illumination have learnt. You can make a completely dogshit film and fill it with bing bing wahoo and it'll make bank. Make a minions movie for the critics as a love letter to the golden age of cinema, cutting down on slapstick? Flop.
>>155674737Well when they did it for Treasure Planet & Atlantis The Lost Empire, it was to specifically stop doing 2D animation (and movies marketed to boys). Could be they don't have faith in this & want to stop doing the same quirky brown girl formula.
>>155674668You underestimate how powerful the phone baby culture is now. If big daddy Internet says no, that market splits down the middle.
Surely Disney Is knows this will flop spectacularly, right?
>>155674825Good point
A lot of people here don't remember how hard they pushed Wish and it bit them in the ass. Merch (which now clutters up bargain bins), theme park integrations, the works. It was intended to be their next Frozen.They even made a fake 'global phenomenon' video that was just hilariously embarrassing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tipYzv_tIsIf they aren't shilling Hexed in the same way it's because they know it's shit and they are terrified.
>trailer now not expected until maybe NOVEMBERLmao this shit is actually so dead
>>155675138Do they legitimately just not have anything more to show off? Are they still finishing the fucking plot?
>>155670691This explains so much about why they ditched the mother-son premise. It's Wish all over again lol
>>155669329Still weird to me how Vasquez was making (or I think co creating) a show for Disney, but never happened
>>155637929>>155638004Disney has made late November/American Thanksgiving their animated movie release window for years. They've used that period since the beginning, but it became an annual tradition after Frozen.
>>155675138>The final trailer for Hexed could release between October and November>IN THEATERS NOVEMBER 25that's really bad. also no shit it'd be between october and november if nothing released today, the last day of fucking september. what kind of rumor is this?
>>155674858I can’t tell if you are agreeing with me or not. You and I both think Hexed looks boring and shitty but little girls were already sold on it the moment they saw purple hair Rapunzel
>>155645669There's a good chance this movie flops and still outgrosses Wildwood. I don't think you realize how niche stop-motion is with normies.
>>155675138>>155675205It is testing so poorly they're still editing it to try and fix the mess. The only hope is the redo the voice acting and go full irreverent comedy like they accidentally struck gold doing with Emperor's New Groove.
>>155675060I hate influencers, fake hype, and the entire culture of astro-turffed media reactions. Bought and paid for "reviewers" and review websites.I fuckin want out. It's like some Twilight Zone episode where everyone around you is fake and not even human.
>>155675060>They even made a fake 'global phenomenon' video that was just hilariously embarrassing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tipYzv_tIs [Embed]I was looking for that video a few weeks ago, thanks for reposting.Yes Jennifer Lee made frozen but that was only a hit because Let it Go and Elsa's design. Everything else she's responsible for has been an ABJECT DISASTER, and I doubt she had anything to do with the two zootopia movies, that's the only reason they're good. Jennifer Lee is the Kathleen Kennedy of animation.
>>155675428>struck gold doing with Emperor's New Groove.Someone said it in another thread, but the voice actors alone carried that movie. Any other voices would of made it a dumpster fire.
>>155675448Disney has been paying off and bribing critics for YEARS. The LA times wrote an article about it and got blacklisted by Disney a few years ago (Disney has since revoked this blacklisting after it made them look bad). Recently they stopped paying off the critics and we are getting more honest reviews.
>>155645939this
>>155675060I am pretty sure the "popularity" of we don't talk about Bruno was astroturfed too. You don't get songs on the radio unless you pay for it. It's a decent song but there was nothing organic about It's supposed popularity.
>>155637725im less annoyed (or surprised) about a shitty new original than i am about the live action remake of tangled and how everyone started rolling their heads in little circles and cheering the moment they showed the cast. like no rapunzel was not completely flat and im tired of people defending shitty remakes if they cast some "baddie" girl
>>155675516People underestimate the value of a song that people can sing to. A lot of modern Disney songs suffer from being too much like pop music and require you to be a talented singer to keep up with.Even with it's high notes, Let it go is a song that anyone can at least keep up with and is enjoyable to sing.
Why does she make the Zegler expression?
>>155674876But how could they drop the quirky brown girl formula? If the movie doesn’t represent the world outside their windows it can’t possibly be a success!
>>155675486>Recently they stopped paying off the critics and we are getting more honest reviews.I really really doubt that. There's way too many positive reviews of obviously bad movies. Old school Rotten Tomatoes was RUTHLESS.
>>155675756A Disney former executive currently runs Rotten Tomatoes LOL
>>155675766Dubs of truth, KEK!
>>155675678There are no quirk chungus brown girls who just need someone like (you) to understand them outside your window, anon.
>>155675678Good news, if Penelope gets made, it'll also have a brown girl as a lead
>>155675516I can believe there was some astroturfing of We Don’t Talk about Bruno, but at the same time, spics are mindless consumers and also the entire spic demographic is collectively mind raped by DisneyI know several white female disney adults and they don’t even come anywhere close to the level of deity worship that the Disney spics I know do (both men and women)
>>155675867This is also why Hexed won’t bomb, because she’s a spic
>>155675867Beaners make up the vast majority of the crowds at both Disney parks and the parks are so crowded now that you’re always surrounded by them at all times it’s fucking disgusting I wish Disney would double the ticket prices just to keep out these taco welfare tortas with her fat husband in a dodgers jersey and their six smelly children
>>155675887Yes because every hispanic led movie always does wonders. Just like Blue Beetle. Let's also remember every latin american country just looooves their neighbors.
>>155675594Wish was like scentifically engineered to be full of catchy pop music and it still failed because quirky music is retarded. It just took an equally unapologetically retarded movie for the masses to realize the music was bad too. I remember they tried to make the guy villain sing a smug song.>>155675633This is the face every woman makes when trying a vibrator for the first time and not really getting it. You can specifically find articles about it where they use that exact type of expression at the top of the page.>No one is perfect their first time, not a woman in search of her sexual destiny, and not as a parent navigating their offspring blossoming into adulthood. Don't be afraid to joi
>>155675998I truly believe Wish music was written by someone typing “write me a new Disney song that sounds like Lin Manuel Miranda (who sucks ass btw) into chatGPT
>>155675976Even if it breaks out in Mexico or some shit it's completely irrelevant because it will bomb everywhere else and the peso is so worthless
>>155676030The lyrics are painfully bad. Compare golden age Disney >Beata Maria, you know I am a righteous man>Of my virtue I am justly proud (et tibi Pater)>Beata Maria, you know I'm so much purer than>The common, vulgar, weak, licentious crowd (quia peccavi nimis)>Then tell me, Maria>Why I see her dancing there?>Why her smold'ring eyes still scorch my soul? (Cogitatione)>I feel her, I see her>The sun caught in her raven hair>Is blazing in me out of all control (verbo et opere)To>I can't help it if mirrors love my face>It's genetics, yeah, I got these genes from outer space>Peep the name, I'm magnificent>I put the "I" in omnipotent>I'm passionate, I'm not petulant>Someone praise me for my benevolence>Um, just look, he-he
>>155676099Yeah but the United States of Mexico’s dollar is not worthless
>>155676131>Boom, did we just blow your mind?>Well I've known the entire time!>When it comes to the universe, we're all shareholders>Get that through your system, solar!>See, we were all just little nebulae in a nursery, from supernovas now we've grown into our history>We're taking why right out of mystery, closure>Now we're taking in ALL the star exposure!
>>155676166Lin Slopuel Miranda and his consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
>>155638055They’re less than one percent of the population, why would they tank ANOTHER movie internationally to pander to them again? Black rock can’t just buy them then people will know the game even more than they already know
>>155676296>Black Rockwhat does your wife's boyfriend have to do with this?
>>155638055Not even then. The Owl House failed despite already pushing lesbeans.
>>155676166That’s just like in my heckin’ science class we’re all star stuff like wow man isn’t that so amazing
>>155676166WATCH OUT WORLD, HERE I ARE!!!!!
>>155676544Do you think Julia Michaels ever thinks about Wish sometimes and just buries her face in shame
>>155676689Because Witch is shorthand for modern feminist rebel that scares the modern religious patriarchy. anyone who is a Witch is supposed to REALLY represent rebellious feminism and freedom that they want removed. So writers stick to the modern definition of a term rather than the possibilities behind a fantastic concept that would allow them near total freedom in storytelling.
>>155676689Fantasia is just an adaptation of the story/poem that went with the music, it wasn't original.
>>155670788>pet resort showAlmost Naked Animals?
>>155670763>Owl House invented stepping on giant monster eyes
>>155676744>Because Witch is shorthand for modern feminist rebel that scares the modern religious patriarchy.What a crock of shit.>So writers stick to the modern definition of a term rather than the possibilities behind a fantastic concept that would allow them near total freedom in storytelling.No one's stopping them from writing, if anything, this time period is when they should be exploding with these ideas and the main publishing industry literally is favoring them and their ideas. And all they can write is LGBTQ POC feminist romantasy slop.So you're full of five flavors of bullshit.
