>the internet is getting tired of disneys clichesHow will the mouse react? Will they finally make unique stuff or will they still pander to shit taste normies?
>>155669529There was an entire online ecosystem for making these observation in like, 2006, this sort of stuff was the bedrock of websites like cracked, this is not a new phenomenon.
>americans wake up >suddenly all the twitter threads start
>>155669529Elon Musk is a humongous faggot but I love how he basically caused all the more terminally online types to fuck off to Bluesky aka Tumblr 2.0. If this movie trailer was released 3 years ago you’d get tons of consoomers defending it. I remember you also couldn’t hate on beanmouth before all those fags moved to Bluesky.
>>155669529>owl house with zero saucelol, lmao even
>>155669529I love posts like this cause they make the animation is cinema tards seethe hard and post shit like "why are you so damn negative"
>>155669599Sooooooooo Owl House?
>>155669581This feels like a major reason why the cultural pendulum is swinging back.
>>155669581>I remember you also couldn’t hate on beanmouth before all those fags moved to BlueskyYou've always been able to hate on beanmouth, retard
>>155669529>the internet is getting tired of disneys clichesEvery generation says they're tired of Disney cliches, like how do you think we got Shrek?
>>155669529>it's givingI'm really fucking sick of meme phrases just constantly being broken english.
>>155669557No one cares tranny
>>155669599>>155669732I love how owl house fans are like >This is a direct copy of the Owl House!and everyone else is like>This just seems to be a collection of shitty YA cliche
>>155669529The clip further reinforces the fact that Disney had to crack down on AI otherwise people would easily be generating their own Disney films indistinguishable from the new stuff>”Holy crap, I can use frickin magic?!” Writing>>155669869Having a legion of retards telling you it’s not the same style because the cheek is one pixel wider is bad for the psyche.
>>155669529They will eventually make a new movie that'll find some other more unique angle that people will like, then repeat that angle for 18 years until tired, rinse and repeat as always, giant corporations are slow momentum-filled machines that can't correct on a dime
>>155669581>UMMMMM TWITTER IS THE BASED NOW!I think both sites are putrid dogshit and share the same userbase, jizzball.
>>155670237How does Musk's cock taste?
>>155670347Everyone forgets the most important part about the Bluesky exodus.It was a pretty fucking massive failure and everyone had to go back to twitter as it became clear their audiences didn't feel like following them.It's the same as the Reddit Voat exodus.
>>155670338The core problem for Disney animation is they have to coast entirely on Nostalgia now and no one really even wants a new Disney Princess at this point.Once frozen 2 of all things got a lukewarm reaction from the internet at best, it was fucking over
155670237kill yourself
It's time to talk about millennial writing
>>155670505You know, after looking at forspoken I've come to find the real problem can be summed up to "We don't know how to balance a straightman-funny man dynamic"In a given comedy duo, the straightman isn't supposed to be constantly overshadowed by the funny man, nor be completely hapless. Doing so causes the bit to lose direction. The straightman works best when you actually allow them to banter with the funnyman to the point of being able to move things along.And in the case of shit like Borderlands, the problem is literally everyone is super fucking zany. In the first game, the player character is the straightman who reacts to the zaniness of pandora, but as the series goes on, it loses that more and more.
>>155670224People have been tired of Disneys cliches since the golden age of animation.The way I see it golden age Disney utilized cuteness a lot but those films managed to be Citizen Kane-level masterpieces, not to mention they had tons of dark shit in them too (Night on Bald Mountain, Pleasure Island, etc.), they started to become hit or miss after the wartime era and degraded even more during the xerox era, every film from The Little Mermaid-onward is sanitized kitschy garbage for morons. Their style also started to get ugly around then too, their 3D films are especially hideous. It shouldn’t have took this fucking long for normies to realize how shit modern Disney is.
>>155669529>people get tired of Disney cliches >people get tired of movie's breaking Disney cliches What the fuck do people want then?
>>155670224>>155670572Shrek had a negative impact on Disney too, where else do you think the snarky, 'deconstructing', and quirky humor in their 'revival era'-onward films like Tangled and Frozen came from?Heck Disney was already sort of doing that before Shrek with Aladdin.
>>155669581Oh trust me, those animation is cinema consoomers are still around>what are you talking about this movie doesn’t look identical to Disneys prior 3D movies.
>>155669529GUYS GUYS LOOK WHAT TWITTER IS DOING ARENT YOU SO INTERESTED IN WHAT TWITTER THINKS GUYS DROP EVERYTHING TWITTER HAS AN OPINION LOOK WHAT I FOUND WHILE BROWSING TWITTERJump off a roof, bot.
>>155670783>Heck Disney was already sort of doing that before Shrek with Aladdin.yeah the scene where aladdin told those teenagers to take off all their clothes was pretty hard core. wait what were we talking about. oh yeah shrek. fuck shrek, all my homies hate shrek.
>>155669846Swinging toward isreal, maybe. The alt right that got Trump elected would be disgusted at how their side is being puppeted by jews.
>>155670237>t.
>>155670951NTA but the original post was was a lazy strawman that he mocked
>>155670965Maybe you should write a tweet about it.
>>155670998Already didThen I posted on the secret darkweb site called 4chan Weird how the internet isn't some segregated space
>>155670933Aladdin was doing what Shrek did in the sense that it was the first film to rely on starpower celebrity VAs for success and had tons of proto-meta and referential humor.
>>155670783I wanna say the real problem here is that Disney didn't understand you're not supposed to copy the thing designed to make fun of you.Shrek worked because it was allowed to be as cynical about the "magic" as it wanted. The current movies aren't allowed to do that.The other big thing that I've noticed that people seem to forget about Shrek is it worked because Shrek was allowed to be a bitter asshole prone to lashing out at people because of his own outcasting.He felt a lot more real than a lot of Disney protags, and when you add disney sanitization back into that, you're left with annoying quirk chungus.I wanna say that is a huge problem too. You used to have different flavors of smartasses. Some were more playful, some were more dry, some were quirky, some were deliberately obnoxious in a funny way.And these variations also centered around how they'd fit into a cast or duo who would balance them out.You notice that sorta disappear more and more after like.. 2013 ish
>>155670907>tranny flag in bioNope, not even once
>>155670529Yeah and sometimes the straightman does get a bit too Judd Apatow or Jeff Winger/Dan Harmon for my tastes where they become unrealistically hypercompetent and/or smarmy/snide where they become annoying. It's these two extremes I hate. The reason people like Spidey, Bugs, Daffy, Fry, Bender, etc. is that they all encounter something that complements them or humbles them while also challenging them to use their wit in interesting ways.
>>155671211I mean, you wanna know something really important that I've noticed a lot of games/series have missed recently?In a good comedic ensemble, the role of the straightman shifts depending on situation and conversation. Because different characters will have different traits. Like, the zany jokester will often play the straightman when paired with a situation centered around the anxious over thinker, but that reverses when it's a story about the former's whimsical nature going too far and dragging the two of them into something.
>>155670237>guys! Guys!!! Look at this faggy shit I saw on twitter, everyone on 4chan must see! >a Taiwanese cartoon forum is the perfect place to share Twitter shit, I'll get upvotes!!!
>>155669529>How will the mouse react?They won't, the issue with a lot who adhere to terms like "the mouse" is you've deluded yourself into thinking you're talking about or to an entity. Disney like many media companies have embraced being a market spreadsheet.There's no incentive to make anything other than what that illustrates sells because it shows negative opinion or tastes have no substantial effect on profits.I don't like it but I can't even feel hate anymore because there's nothing there. Instead of engaging simply observe the relentless spiral in effort against the consistent success of these things and you'll realize you're angry at an equation. As much as a fallacy as it can be to blame shift, this is a case where the byproduct is less from company decision and more customers.And I doubt Disney would even course correct if they saw a steep decline in profits, there'd be no lesson for the computation to process other than re-do more live action classics or a sequel of the last successful thing.Disney will probably only change if a substantial margin of people started going to other, quality animated features. Less out of an interest to better themselves, more to elbow out competition. But as the awards for animation have also consistently shown very few people care.>But AnimeNot exactly competition due to success being scattered across companies, and not consistent. Audiences may see whatever popular thing is out from curiosity, but there isn't a sizeable, vested interest to become a life fan like people have with Disney. Disney in comparison can squat out whatever and as we are right now illustrating people will care.It's too locked in. Even this post is futile, families outside 4chan will inevitably plop their kids in front of latest Disney thing instead of any of the decades of TV and film they could otherwise, merch will be bought for school and birthdays, parks will be gone to.
>>155671323To be clear, look at Frey and Cuff in the aforementioned Forspoken example.Look at Frey's most infamous dialogue.https://youtu.be/rhkQE6NKS6E?si=2mHL9EQ6vDGE-QFFYou know what makes this dialogue so bad? It's not the "I just moved shit with my mind", it's that she isn't even reacting to Cuff's input. It creates a banter that is entirely one-sided and goes no where.Literally all they had to do was make her react to what he told her and then her quirk chunginess can actually go somewhere. Even her getting mad at him "ruining this for her" with his cynicism and relative lack of reaction could have been an actual fucking banter.And that's where I'm noticing all these quirky adorkable characters keep going wrong.This character type has existed for decades but in the past 10 or so years, a shit ton of writers have forgotten that they're only as good as the more down to earth or cynical characters who are supposed to balance them
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>>155671578Even the shitposts encourage the knowledge of Disney. As long as this mentality remains, the mouse machine will be too big and too ingrained in the public consciousness to stop.
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>>155669529>7 obnoxious people express an opinionTHE INTERNET, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN
>>155670237>there are people who actually believe this and are proud to be part of twitter
>people critique Disney for being corporate and formulaicYes? Do you think you're the first?
>>155669529A big reason why so many people have been turning against Disney lately is probably because of how it’s been almost a decade since they’ve made a well received film, the only exceptions are Encanto and Zootopia 2 and I’ve seen some people start to think that the prior film was overrated.
>>155669529How it's acceptable to make fun of Walt Disney Animation Studios using the same style for their films but when someone does the same for Disney TVA's lineup people get mad?
>>155669529Unless it has major repercussion on their box office returns, there will be no reaction from Disney at all. As of right now>Live action remakes make billions>Grrrl Power self insert fantasy makes billions>Two movies in a row starring a young boy failed, therefore not doing that any longer>Kinda sorta slightly but not really implying Lesbians brings in money and tons of fan engagement, so that will keep happening>Everyone inside the industry vehemently defends the ever living FUCK out of bean mouth design, that is not changing due to becoming a hill they will die on.>Panic attacks brings in good press, wins awards, and elevates employees' social status so that stays>Middle tier executives love them some witches, we get it in the TVA shows, Star Wars, Freeform series, they are not going anywhere, quit bitching about them already.
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>>155669529I'll admit there's very little about Hexed that excites me or seems in any way novel, but the people lambasting it every chance they get are being sooo performative. It couldn't possibly be THAT bad...
>>155672062I assume it's going to be another nothing movie that comes and goes without much notice and Disney will pretend it never happened after a couple months.
>>155671994Both styles are shit. Though I do remember when Matt Braly tweeted about how they Disneyfied Fox Mcloud in the Mario movie, they’d acknowledge any bad artstyle trend as long as it’s not beanmouth.
>>155669529>giving a fucking shit about Twitter>current fucking yearhow fucking retarded are you?!? How many times do you need to be told Twitter isn't real life?
