MUHGWEN
Gwen has always been his true love.Nothing more tragic than meeting 'the one' and then losing them
>>155671601Notice how every single instance of her being designated "his true love" is a case of telling and never showing.MJ is the exact opposite.
MJ fags on suicide watch
>>155671816They have been since Jean Grey entered the fray.
>>155671572>Endlessly write MJ so shit that a garbage character like Gwen looks like an angel
>>155671946jean and mj should probably just merge into a single character.You dont need TWO redheads in love with spiderman. plus mj not having powers is boring
>>155672004>plus mj not having powers is boringMJfags think her backstory's so good when a shit ton of Marvel characters have shitty childhoods AND shit parents. She's boring because she's a normie so her shtick isn't interesting anymore. Especially since girls like her make up most of women IRL.
>>155671572When did they first wrote Gwen as Mary Magdalene? Back then, it was written after her death that Peter couldn't relax around her due to the pressure from her hate of Spider-man (which was kind of redundant with JJJ and May, lets say it).The spider-editors embodies the behaviours that Conway warned about with Warren.
>>155671572MYSTERIO IS A FAGGOT
>>155673666Fuck off
>>155671572Marvel’s obsession with the bitch is so annoying.
>mumbling about a few month old relationship in his sleep when he is an old man with a dead wifeWhat the fuck did they mean by this?
>>155671816MJ knows Peter is Spider-Man.Gwen knew shit and Peter has Mysterio gay role play a fake version of her.
>>155673666Spider-Man #1000 discussion be like>Hey, you hear what Insomniac did with Sabretooth and Wolverine being lifelong enemies? Alright, hear me out.
>>155671703They really showed MJ as Peter's true love all those times she cheated on him or left him. Parker luck's to be Parker cuck.
>>155675996>checks notes>all those instances this brainless retarded imbelicilic FAGGOT will bring up, happened after OMD when an editorial and writing staff were filled with faggots like this anon>Faggot will ignore this fact and just continue to shit up the thread with weak baitYup. Checks out.
>>155673799>obsession with the bitch is so annoyingBut enough about Mary Jane. That bitch and her faggot fans made Gwen get killed by the green gay goblin.
It's really weird that Jean Grey's first kiss in both the MCU and the 616 comics is Peter Parker. What are the odds?Now she's become a "threat" to the MJ pairing (the true threat was always Gwen)
>>155676055MJfag...
>>155676055Behold! Post-OMD MJ!
>>155676104>>155676129Smells like curry in hereAh that must be the reason why these replies reek of izzat farming.
>>155676135>this exampleYup. Weak bait. I intentionally funnelled you to that one because it gets disproven by the book like 1-2 pages later and if you had 1 brain cell, you would not think of NTR as the result. It's the one fags like you always try to run back to. Predictable.It's a fucking weak ass dramatic stinger that many soap operas do when a big status quo change happens where they tease the audience with it not going through but it ultimately does. Retards use those scenes as bait.
>>155676135Behold! Retard takes the mask off and is now revealing that faithful discussion was never their aim! Tired waifu flamewar faggotry. Yet again, perpretrated by 3rd world subhumans. /thread
>>155676147>Smells like curry in hereMeds
MJ's boring. Her design carries her hard and you like her for autistic nostalgia reasons. She sucks as-is.
>>155676215Hypocritical faggot. You wouldn't know good faith discussion if it got you banned from the reddit sub that spawned you.
>Jarvis, tell me the IP Count of the anons who are pro-Gwen in this thread?>Sir, it appears that the IP Count is hard to pull from 4chan. It uses outdated technology and is filled with Dolphin porn.>Damn it, Jarvis, can you pull it off or not?!>Sorry sir. I have managed to decrypt the site's systems. It appears that IP count for pro-Gwen anons is: 1>A high level of samefaggotry and bad faith bait is going on here.>Well Jarvis, thanks for the info. It's time to leave this to the jannies to clean up.
>>155673249When faggots like Alex Ross and Mark Waid got their start on Marvel and decided that their "muh childhood headcanon" were the only acceptable way to write these characters.I probably should add Busiek into that group.
MOO GWONMOOO GWOOOOOOON
>>155674770MJ fell in love with Spider-ManGwen fell in love with Peter Parker
>>155676135There is no shame in being cucked by Batman.
>>155677011>Gwen fell in love with Peter ParkerBitch, Flash had more regard for Peter than she did.She only switched up when he became socially approved.
>>155677011Weak bait that isn't based at all in reality or shows any slight iota of indication of having read the books.
>>155671572That's a shitty looking Gwen, if the artist can't draw her as attractive as John Romita Sr did, they shouldn't bother.
>>155677186That's not Gwen. Where's the headband used in nearly every other fucking drawing and the only distinguishing feature of her? Faggot just posted a random bitch for all we know. Fake gwenfag, kek. All prior posts and opinions discarded.
>>155677081
>>155676055>>155676195>>155676215NTA but there are other examples, like picrel (this happened in Maximum Carnage). While I guess she wasn't cheating on him YET, it's pretty suspicious that she'd go, alone, to a night club, and started dancing with a bunch of guys.That being said, I do think MJ has some potential, but I do hate this cheating angle some people give her. She is supposed to be more of a thread connecting Peter to his normal life, IMO.
>>155677313>looks inside>finds nothing except only the surface level elements of NTR with none of the tone or intention of NTR actually happeningYeah uh I don't intend on entertaining this shit anymore.
>>155677251
>>155677349I'm just saying dude, they seem to push towards this angle here and there, be it superficial or not, and that's enough to make people dislike the character.Gwen was fine, I do agree that she is probably the one that clicked the best with Peter, but like I said, MJ also has the potential for some interesting dynamics that do not involve her cheating on him or being a cunt, otherwise people will always compare her to Gwen.
>>155676961How much Busiek tried actually stuck?
>>155677411>anon: Gwen! Calm down, she's just an old lady!>gwen: I'm not going to calm down! *throws a vase at anon*
>>155677251>>155677411>Gwen screeching like a harpy at othersYet made Peter miserable for wanting to live up to his responsibilities.
>>155677412Fag you're an ESL schizo that types out stream of conciousness bullshit that has no rhyme or reason to it.
>>155677433I mean, in Marvels he basically created the image of the perfect and ethereal Gwen that plagues todays characterization.
>>155677483>>155677488So we're forgetting how Aunt May's retarded? She's dumb as hell.
>>155677517You're mistaking me for someone else, retard.Also, I accept your concession. Cope, seethe, and dilate.
>>155671572I have Gwen Stacy fatigue
>>155678014I don't remember the exact order of operations, but that could be the case. Even Busiek at least admitted her flaws in the narration even though the story treats her like she is fully grown out of them and solved her emotional problems.
>>155677411Absolute Gwen is a BPD
>>155678048Seems like Gwen forgot she was talking to a fragile old lady.
more Gwen. I want MORE
MOO GWOO
>>155677011Gwen fell in love with Peter.Black Cat fell in love with SpideyMJ knew they were the same person the whole time
Gwen is the only ride-or-die girl Peter ever fell in love with. That's why I'm a PxG fan.
>>155679223What exactly do you interpret that expression to mean?
>>155678171Next time, write a post instead of >>155677412 which is seeing things in my post before that aren't there and it's just a bunch of rambling nonsense. So I don't care if you're one schizo or not. Actually write something that makes sense.
>>155671572>MUH Reddit thread.
>>155671572EDP443
>>155678318I have "people fatigue" fatigue
>>155681698Then make good works.
>>155677313Tbh, editors were already trying to make them "mismatch". The actress career also had that purpose, since I think she was a "mere" runaway model back during the marriage.
>>155671572Should've been Carlie Cooper
>>155677251>Oh beans
>>155671816Because of another piece of hackery from the house of ideas?
>>155678970She wanted to be his girlfriend before even talking to Peter because she knew he was Spider-Man
>>155683402>Mogs comic MJ in one movieHow did she do it?
>>155683431Someone at marvel studios remembered that Peter was Jean's first kiss in 616
>>155671572>start off story showing that Peter and MJ had a family together>MJ is presumed to be dead>this is at no point mentioned in the story nor is her name uttered>but 60 years later Peter still mutters Gwen's name in his sleepAt what point do you take a step back and think about what you're writing? Why is he mourning his college girlfriend more than his dead wife?
>>155676135Hey isn't that the cuck that paid for her and Peter's honeymoon?
Gwen won
>>155683431>How did she do it?Having powers makes a stronger parallel. A shitty home life isn't comparable to losing Ben and being fucking Spider-Man.
>>155683382Exactly. But MJfags will try to romanticize it.
>>155671572
>>155683382No she was conflicted about dating spider-man and unsure about the duality of how May described him vs the fact that he was a goofy superhero that can bench press a car until she meets peter. Which is why she puts off being setup on a blind date with him for 2 years.
>>155684900>Which is why she puts off being setup on a blind date with him for 2 years.She put off? It was Peter who was putting it off. Why lie?
>>155684924Both of them did. It a different comic than Untold Tale but Peter is told she's has a wonderful personality and Peter assumes she's homely and MJ is told he's a sensitive young man and she says something like dad was a sensitive young man the last thing I need another one of those in my life and then they both spend the next 2 year making excuses not to meet.
The idea that Peter is still pining for his dead college girlfriend well into old age is incredibly sad and pathetic. This makes Bruce Wayne look well-adjusted.Does Marvel have such a warped view of relationships and mental-health that they think this supposed to be some bittersweet romantic moment or are they intentionally writing Peter as an emotionally disturbed individual who will never be truly happy no matter how many decades pass?
>>155683431Having a personality outside of a potential love interest. Which is an accomplishment, because Jean herself usually can't claim that.
>>155671572What a useless blonde WHORE
>>155685129Marvel is in a weird place with Gwen. Everybody except Uncle Ben has come back by this point, so it seems weird that Gwen doesn't get resurrected, too. But Gwen is the most normie of girls and she's missed 60 years of stories, so I have no idea what they would do with her except for non-stop fucking reduces Spider-man's superhero time until it becomes noticeable.
>>155685082That was a retcon done to force parallels between her and Pete.
>>155671572What's this from and what's the context?
>>155685290The MJ knew the whole time was also a retcon. It kinda contradicts early comics. When Peter tells everyone he's spider-man and then takes it back and get the Prowler to pretend to be Spider-man. MJ didn't go I knew the whole time, I saw you climb out your bedroom window the night Ben died. Neither stories really contradict each other so they can both be taken as canon.
>>155685357One of the backup stories of ASM #1000. Peter is an old man and starts seeing an old Gwen Stacy but nobody else sees her. It's a dying old Mysterio trying to get revenge on him but he has a change of heart so instead he helps Peter say goodbye to her memory. The only good thing about the story is the grandson being a pretty cool Spider-Man despite having a minor role in it.
>>155683431Being written as an antagonist with a life and motivations outside of Peter
>>155685357>What's this from a comic book >what's the context?Mysterio is making senior citizen Peter Parker think Gwen Stacy is alive, an old lady and living at the the same old folks home. Everyone thinks Peter is talking to himself and has dementia.
>>155672004>Mary Jean Grey
Peter stole a kiss from Jean while he was dating Gwen. That probably haunts him. He was unfaithful to Gwen, the best girl.
>>155671572Gwenschizo is highly satanic because he loves little kids and will burn in hell for it.
>>155685608Gwenschizo's official theme song:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8B_a0ZHNj8&list=RDY8B_a0ZHNj8&start_radio=1
>>155679223Emphasis on die.
>>155684067The Gwenbrained in that office are projecting their own personal issues with Gwen as the pure Madonna.
>>155685129Marvel's Bullpen is staffed with a socially stunted Good Ol' Boys club, so you end up with weird outcomes like this they think is romantic.
>>155685377>It kinda contradicts early comicsThere's no kinda. It just does and makes her look like a cunt.
>>155685274>Gwen is the most normie of girlsSpider-Gwen says hi.
>>155678970bit of a dumb bass take, anon. Felicia is the one that learns to love both sides of Peter.
>>155671572That's Quentin though.
>>155686538She's actress, I kinda like the idea she knows and is putting on an act pretending to be mad and playing dumb just as practice and honing her craft.>>155686716And then she realized she loves women more. As long as Marvel cares about pride month and token representation. Black Cat is gonna go back to being gay at least once a year. The Peter, MJ, Felicia throuple take is more likely to be a thing than Peter and Felicia being in a serious long turn relationship again.
>>155687267Felicia is Petersexual and that's not gonna change anon>Peter, MJ, Felicia throuple Used to be joke but now it's not a terrible idea.
>>155686716>go scorch earth on MJ and derail her whole character for the sake of drama, well perhaps then we can at least have a serious Felicia romance>that break up the writers couldn't even find a reason to make either character careThe romcom is the bread and butter of Spider-Man comics, and they are piss bleach into the mix. What is wrong with them?
>>155687331We have to wait for all the oldheads to be gone before we're allowed to be that based anon.
>>155687331Being better than the current status quo is not the same as being good.
This is the decade of Jean. The true love of Peter Parker
>>155671572I know somewhere in that stupid editorial almost everyone wants to bring back Gwen and marry her to Peter if they could, the only reason they didn't do it was because Brevoort in only few times he wasn't retard rightfully stated it doesn't make sense to bring her back outside their personal preferances and nostalgia.
