patreon, just like other leeches.

we decided to call ourselves "intelligent beings"

>>155724282
Is Zone one guy or is it multiple people? I always assumed the latter.

>>155724282
business model

It was going to happen eventually. What, did you expect him to just keep making porn from the retirement home?

>>155724282
Didn't this guy become a sell out when skullgirls was forced to go through censorship?

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>>155724282
People were willing to pay him to do nothing which seems to be the goal of all "creatives" these days. Get paid to do nothing and stream/make let's plays instead of their art or passion.

>>155724282
He realized he made way more money just streaming and his reputation. That he hasn't done shit since he started this disappoints more than I would have thought. He doesn't even do stuff on his own time. At most just Patreon pinups.

is there any modern day equivalent to zone canaryprimary is the only one i can think of but 90% of there work is furry stuff

>>155724282
Got lazy
On-model animated porn isn't as special now

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>>155725319
Maybe Derpixon?

>>155725319
it's mostly furfags now

>>155725428
>On-model animated porn isn't as special now

with how much gooner art and culture has rise over the years zone stuff really isnt as impressive anymore heck some of there stuff like the teen titan animations is flash tier in terms of animation theres alot more impressive animators for porn nowadays and i dont think they would ever pop off as big as he did if he started make stuff at this current age

>>155725319
It's canaryprimary but he needs to diversify out of forbidden horse show and aggretsuko. Even if he just strictly stuck to furry it'd be fine by me, he's just really stuck on those two things when he could be so much more.

>>155724348
Zone's a guy. He goes way, way back. You can find 30 year old posts of his on alt.games.nintendo.pokemon.hentai if you're interested.

>>155725904
Wait what? Is that like a Usenet group. Where do you even find that. Also? How did people in the west even know about hentai Bach than.

>>155724287
>Communist begging for free smut accusing others of being leeches

>>155725319
derpixon until they fucking quit.
deepstroke maybe?

>>155726094
Nigga people have been anime and hentai fans since the first soldier stepped foot on occupied Japan back in WW2. The first official anime convention was in 1983.

My personally theory is that zone is a man in his late 40s, possibly early 50s. How he has stayed anonymous this song is a mystery, although it seems to known that he’s worked in the industry. If he was making porn all the way back in 2000, he’s likely in his late 40s minimum. I shudder to think of this nigga drawing hentai as a 10th grader or something

>>155726209
Anime I know but hentai? Where did you find that shit? Like pre high speed internet. Seems like an odd thing to be into back than if you weren’t living in Japan.

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>>155724282
People wised up and stopped glazing hacks

Also internet porn and coomer culture is getting vilified again by virtue of being so fucking annoying and oversaturated

>>155726289
The back of an asian owned VHS rental store, your local college japan club, and your older brother in the Army who was stationed in Japan.

>>155726255
>I shudder to think of this nigga drawing hentai as a 10th grader or something
Man, I hope you ask some of these drawfags how long they have been drawing smut, some started in middle school.

>>155726354
This always annoys me. I like to try and keep my porn requests/commissions in character as much as possible but retards are just as happy to throw their money at some generic pin up of Spider-gwen or Princess Peach in a vacuous pose that has nothing to do with who they are.

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>>155726289
You know you could still see images on 56k internet right?
Some comic shops used to carry translated hentai like Bondage fairies(there was even a legal case about this where a cop charged a comic shop clerk falsely for selling him, an adult man, hentai because he claimed he was selling to kids too). Hentai OVAs were imported and dubbed in video stores(before the late 90's TV anime boom, anime was getting a rep as mainly adult animation because all the stuff getting localized was risque or gory to capitalize off Akira).
People traveled to Japan, they'd see pervy comics in newstands and the like. The world wasn't entirely cut off. Big Black put a hentai image on an album cover in the 80's.

tu tus my word crosk, the gooner uncs on this board are completely cooked, no cap. >>155726416
Imagine gooning in a room with a bunch of niggas. Or asking your brother to get you goon material. As a ‘08 zoomer it’s genuinely got me shocked at how Down the fuck bad you niggas were back in the day

>>155726094
I know about it because I was there when the ancient texts were written. A lot of us from back then went on to bigger and better things. Except for Ghastly, rest in peace.

AI, like everything. He had the best sound mixing, but AI voices can straight up just say what's needed to be said.

>>155726761
What even was that place tho? Chuds gooning to Pokemon? Like actual Pokemon? Or like the human female characters. Lopunnie and gardavoir weren’t even around back than. Out of pocket Ahhhh uncs

>>155725861
i feel the same but he probably sticks to them to keep his patreons happy since they might drop off if he experiments too much but atleast hes does experiment from time to time and currently is he with all the cookie run stuff hes putting out

>>155724282
Dude's probably in his 50s by now. I remember coming across his content in my teens, and I'll be in my 40s in just a few more years.

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>>155726498
>Big Black put a hentai image on an album cover in the 80's.
That was a fucking banger album too, colombian necktie is in my weight lifting playlist.

>>155726164
You mean mommy and daddy's trustfund faggot with no job nor skills. Incels never talk about paying for porn.

>>155727741
I mean even at a young estimate he's mid forties at the absolute lowest.

>>155724282
Why did Otto Heckle throw shade at them?

>>155727796
Because Oneyheads are parasocial retards

>>155726734
>asking your brother to get you goon material
Didn't ask, borrowed it from his "hidden" stash

>>155727741
>>155727792
Oh yeah he’s gotta be. He’s been doing this shit since the late 90s in some form. Makes you wonder if he’s like, a suburban family man or something now. I wonder if we’ll ever know his identity, genuinely shocked he’s never had anything about his personal life leak.

>>155727775
Steve Albini was a lolicon before it was cool.

I know I’m deep in enemy territory here, but I’m genuinely curious. What’s the appeal in jerking off to animated stuff? (Hentai or otherwise) why would you jerk off to a drawing of a women when you can just jerk off fo real women.

>>155728218
The stylization and emphasis on things reality can’t represent

>>155728218
I know the personality of the character being represented more than I know the personality of some random nude model.

>>155728218
It's weird jerking off to a real woman. That's someone's sister, or daughter, or mom, or grandma. And honestly, any porn persona is just as fake as a 2D character. It's not like I wanna fuck a cartoon or marry one, it's just fapping.

>>155724282
No canon Zone tan sex animation

>>155728218
Why do you read comics or watch cartoons? Why not only live action stuff?

>>155728411
Are there even any worthwhile non-canon ones?

>>155728218
The downside to animated stuff these days is that you have to stick to patreon animations, since Japanese hentai is 3 frames of animation on a loop for 20 minutes by Queen Bee. The days of Bible Black-tier quality are long gone.

>>155728218
sometimes you end up having a crush on an animated character, and ya wanna see that character in an erotic way (at least for me)

>>155728411
IDK, probably because that’s what I enjoyed since I was a child, and I never grew out of it, same reason I watch Hockey. I’m sure someone could psychoanalyse me. Part of it is a type of escapism.

>>155728419
Whoops, meant to answer >>155728323

>>155728419
THat one Freako did back in like 2016 was ok.

>>155724887
should have just doulbed down on Zone Tan merch.

She could have been a cultural internet icon of the mid 2000's.

>>155726354
This is the problem I have with Naruhodo. All the women have the same body, and the only thing differentiating them is the head glued to their shoulders.

>>155728218
because real porn can be gross seeing pepole actually get gangbang in the ass isn't that hot to watch irl but seeing in a animation can be more entertaing since its in the same vain on how gorey movies like terrifer or other slahser movies can be entertaing to watch but that dosent mean i and lot of other pepole would like to see live leak videos and see real pepole die

>>155728120
>genuinely shocked he’s never had anything about his personal life leak.
Because, near as I can tell, he knows when to shut up.

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>>155728218
You sound like a sad boring human being. And I pity you. It's called imagination. It's about fantasy. Why look at anything if all we want to do is rip our dicks off? I don't know what happened to castrate your entire generation but you have a profound issue that goes beyond just jack off material.

>>155726354
this is my fetish. There was a brief fad on here on /co/, where you'd have ambulatory porn bodies going around, and assimilating characters to give them wildly off-model figures - it was great.
That current twitter fad of slapping a toon head on top of that hooters gif? Primo.

>>155724282
Zone lost to Nortubel

>>155728218
You can't get off to both?

>>155729212
hey do you have any of those or now where i could find them. i remember that but ive never been able to find them on any boorus ect.

>>155725319
Xmantis maybe?

I personally put the blame on SFM stuff. Now any retard can just take in game models and make an animation of Tifa getting spit roast by TF2 characters. It was all downhill from there. Zone? AI shit. All of it.

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>>155726498
>>155727775
It was even a one-thread fad in the drawthread years ago. There's more on the collection.

>>155729282
I mean, I like big anime titties sure, I never said that like, there’s zero animated women I’ve found attractive but like, if I have a choice between the two, I’m picking a real women anyday. I’ve never actually jacked off to hentai or anything like that. >>155729183
I think you were undersocialized, probably a latchkey kid that wasn’t in sports, probably didn’t have much community involvement . You weren’t able to be around the opposite sex much, you didn’t develop properly. Probably spent a LOT over time infront of the TV. I know lots of guys like you anon, it’s ok.

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>>155728218
3dpd women aren't cute and perfect like Kyoko.

>>155729507
>I’ve never actually jacked off to hentai or anything like that
You're not impressing anyone.
>I think you were undersocialized
I think you're projecting.

>>155724282
>defends a horny game getting censored
>still gets attacked by castrated purists

>>155729525
Why are you millennials like this? Literally zero argument just pointless snark and no u!

>>155729542
You'll get an actual argument when you ask a question that isn't retarded, and you're the millennial.

>>155726354
you're in the age of internet censorship and zoomers being whiny fags (not just woke ones, even sharty because they come from the same package) due to tumblr refugees
the "gooners" always kept themselves in their corners while whiny fags are the ones looking after them just to bitch

>>155729550
You are a gooner and you can’t defend your weird goon material. Instead you lash out and get angry when normal people criticize it. I really hope I’m not doing shit like that when I’m 36

>>155726354
i love memes about how internet artists "ruin" characters because it's always girls that are already appealing in the source material to begin wit
yoko taro literally bragged about 2b being a sex doll
meanwhile, where are the memes about people sexualizing characters that have no actual apeall like nicole from gumball or shit like that?
or the memes about cute anime girls being made ugly by tumblr artists giving them leg hair and man faces

>>155729568
>normal people
you forgot to use the meme phrase "have a normal one"
what are you, a somethingawful goon with troll's remorse?
you're on an anonymous site where everyone is weird
if you're that concerned with someone not "being normal", sounds like an insecurity you have and are projecting it on someone else
the word "gooner" itself is a meme word already used by autistic zoomers who got their world view from retarded millenials anyway
you're a failed normalfag

>>155729598
I think this is the saddest part of the modern internet. We have a generation of people who want to latch onto something but are still so image conscious that they have to be ironic or dismissive asshats even behind a wall of anonymity.

>>155724282
>what went wrong
you can't make money on the internet without big corp support

>>155724348
Zone is one guy, but as his content got more popular, he started adding more people to his crew, like a voice actress for Zone-Tan. So, you could say he's one guy, but also a 'company'.

>>155726289
>nigga's brain exploded
this nigga doesn't know that people had internet since XIX century

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>>155729623
I think a big part of the problem is that the internet just did get too big. Back in the early 00s or 10s a single guy could just make his silly cartoon porn every couple years and be done with it. The modern internet requires almost constant updates, constant interaction and the pay wall aspects of it only got even more complicated. People used to make stuff just for shits and giggles, now it's a career and I imagine he just doesn't want to deal with the headache.

>>155724282
streaming is considerably more profitable than animating

>>155726864
Dude, people were jerking it to Pokémon from the dawn of the series. Shit like Lopunny was basically the series finally acknowledging it. What do you think they started with? Misty, Jessie, Jenny, Joy, and anthropomorphized Pikachus. There wasn't one of the original 151 that didn't get a sexy lady version before the next generation, for better or worse.

>>155724282
nigga is over 40 now and makes better money as a freelance nobody.
Also I suspect him to at least crossdress, his online manerism doesn't look really male anymore.

>>155726354
what are you smoking Zone main appeal was that he was especially accurate to the show.

>>155728218
real women are ugly and antipathic. anime girls are sympathetic and open minded.

>>155729641
>t. Arin Hansen

>>155729664
You're not understanding. This isn't about Zone. Zone put in a lot of effort and work to his animations. The point though is that most mindless retard members of the audience will be just as willing, if not more so, to pay out the ass for some cheap, copy pasted piece of "art" that the creator can slot to just be anyone.

>>155729641
considering his numbers streaming is barely giving him a few hundreds per month in the good days. People donated a lot when he started because there was still the promise of hentai and all but then people realized the best they'd get is 3 weeks of zonetan puppeting for non porn content, and VR chat with strangers. I think the only think I can still watch is the old american TV shows watchlist, but nobody would donate for that.

>>155724282
Makes perfect sense that a board where people discuss cartoons for babies hates anything sexual
The next logical step is to bitch about violent videogames

>>155726354
well one problem is modern social media will fucking lynch you if you draw any other kind of body.

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>>155728218
Because it's hard to find real stuff of what I'm into but VERY easy to find SFM stuff of what I'm into.

>>155726498
Does anyone have the news article about the legal case?

>>155728218
anime characters have a background, you know their history, they strength and weakness, they status in society, which means porn can be contextualized to what you like.
Real porn stars are just nobody actress taking a pose and wearing temu toxic lingery for an hour or two. There is no emotional tie to them.

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>>155728218
Have you seen a real woman's vagina

>>155725686
Retired years ago.

>>155728218
Some people here have fetishes that can reach unrealistic proportions.
I dont mind 3D smut but it just depends on the day for me is all.

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>>155728218
Why not both? More things to jerk off to.

>>155724282
Surprised nobody's mentioned the Ghostbusters animation. I was on /co/ when it dropped, and I distinctly remember a large wave of disappointment toward it. IIRC, it'd had been in the pipeline for a while and was his longest animation by far, so it being pretty damn middling as far as arousal went made people think Zone had lost the sauce.

>>155728120
Wasn't there a rumor going around that he designed Zone-tan based on his own daughter?

>>155730542
>I was on /co/ when it dropped, and I distinctly remember a large wave of disappointment toward it.
made up bullshit, not sure why people do revisionism like that on events that are still fresh at a lifetime level

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>>155724887
And Fansly buttplug videos

>>155724282
AI i think

>>155728218
For me it's the faces

>>155728218
>clean and pretty.jpg

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>>155727796
Because Zone used to animate underaged characters during his heyday, and the tide has turned against not only loli, but also any character that's canonically in their teens, no matter if they appear physically and/or mentally mature. And, you know, no matter if it's just a cartoon and the characters bear no resemblance to any real person.
The closest thing to crossing the line was when he made a Toph animation using voice clips from the show, but he didn't know that she was being voiced by a child actress. As soon as he learned that he took it down.

>>155731300
>and the tide has turned
Has it really? It just seems like zoomers acting like faggots (as always)

>>155726354
But didn't the majority of Zone Tan porn kept the characters on models?

>>155731981
Yes, though I would say zone aims to be on style than exactly on model, the girl's bodies are sometimes a bit more sexy body wise than they actually are in show but you have to pay attention to notice.

>>155731300
>, and the tide has turned against not only loli, but also any character that's canonically in their teens, no matter if they appear physically and/or mentally mature. And, you know, no matter if it's just a cartoon and the characters bear no resemblance to any real person.
You sound fucking deranged lmao what the fuck is this nonsense.

>>155726864
Fred Perry was already drawing sexy pikachus fucking in 2002, and he wasn't the first.

>>155731338
Is there like some sort of disease where you can't go one day without randomly mentioning zoomers in a 4chan post?
Kinda like homosexuality or something along those lines.

>>155732368
Zone himself drew pikachu porn in 2001

>>155726166
derp quit? damn, no more cute mimes then.

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>>155731300
>Won't somebody PLEASE think of the drawings of fictional children!

>>155732370
Stop bullying me (as always) you fucking zoomer. Don't you DARE disrespect my decrepit 50-something porn artist who does nothing anymore but stream and jerk off in VRChat. Understand, because me and my gang of dysgenic faggots who grew up on ZONEs porn will NOT show you any mercy.
The devil shivers when a Millennial gets angry. You don't want to see me get angry.

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>>155731300
I thought the toph animation was voiced by an actual kid that zone forgot to verify of being legal age?

>>155732370
they're the ones doing it?
I'm sorry, but we all understood that cartoons aren't real twenty years ago.

>>155732387
Yeah, Derp quit. CanaryPrimary and Deepstroke probably the next-most talented. I guess there's Diives, but it feels like every animation from them for the last 5-6 years has been almost exactly the same.

>>155732558
>ummmmmmm dey are da ones doing it??? look at deeze normalfaggots on normalfaggot social media saying dis!
Sorry, rabbi, I am just not interested in your generation war.

>>155732598
>anti-Semitism
Yikes. Hating the Jews is not okay.

>>155731300
>the tide has turned against not only loli,

no lol loli art still causes outcry online and debates of it being morally good and even the sharty has done some stuff against loli work like pretty sure chibi reviews became there punching bag just for being an open lolicon defender

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>>155732561
Deepstroke's apparently doing a Hermione animation next.

>>155732558
Careful anon, they're easily confused.

>>155732819
>Careful anon, they're easily confused.
Trust me, nobody is confused by your autistic attempt to be smarmy or witty.

>>155726166
>deepstroke maybe?
the deepstroke Toph animation was un fucking believably good.

>>155732368
>Fred Perry was already drawing sexy pikachus fucking in 2002, and he wasn't the first.

Fred Perry was doodling porn as far back as operation Desert Storm in Iraq. As in he was drawing porn while being deployed there.

He's not gonna finish the Lord Dominator parody, is he

>>155732948
Obivously he can't have been drawing pikachus during Desert Storm, zoomer

>>155726498
Bondage Fairies was great, so was femme kabuki, slut girl, alice in sexland, etc... Dark Horse even published a bunch of Jouji Manabe books like Outlanders etc. They never finished Drakuun though, possibly because it had an incest scene between the two princess sisters in the last arc (all the other sex scenes were made a bit more mild as well, either by censoring or altering the text).

really wish some scanlators would pick that up, but apparently nobody gives a shit about older books.

>>155732992
He had a time machine, retard.

>>155732992
The point was that he predates Zone by a good decade.

>>155732819
>Deepstroke's apparently doing a Hermione animation next.
Gonna love all the people who will get mad that this isn't malfoid instead not realizing he's been working on it since long before she went viral.

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>>155732348
There are way more antis out there, and it really doesn't help that more and more webspaces are banning lolisho.
>>155732390
I'm literally saying that antis are retarded for thinking this way, I'm on your side.
>>155732654
Learn to read, that's exactly what I meant. More and more people have become antis.

>>155733011
>>155732849
>>155732598
>>155732370
>>155732417
Can you fucking fascist zoomers stop ruining the fucking thread already?! FUCK!
I am honestly scared about the future of porn because of these literal neo-nazis. They're leaning into racism, bigotry, transphobia, and religious dogma, which means they're turning against our cartoon porn.
If I am not mistaken, they made up most Trump voters during the election.

>>155729737
It's all covered on wikipedia under Castillo vs Texas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castillo_v._Texas
What's really fucked up is that the guy who got arrested was just a clerk, not the owner. The adult material was in a separate area and the cop was clearly an adult. They got rid of adult material after this.

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>>155724282
Jerry Garcia died.

>>155727796
Probably to highlight Tom's hypocrisy for deleting Chris' account.

>>155733208
Why not use a user who has actually harmed/is harming real people? He just picked Zone because he's another faggot who thinks liking cartoon rape porn means you're a rapist IRL.

>>155733066
I am concerned about my translennials sisters.

>>155733265
Otto ruined my fucking loife by making fun of my irrelevant porn animator.

>>155733117
Did the clerks life and ruined as a result?

>>155733265
Zone is honestly a hack though.

>>155733265
I don't know. There's plenty of accounts, I'd assume, that could've worked, but Zone's a big name and a low enough fruit to grasp. That being said, has there been a compiled list of NG accounts whose users broke the law, and still haven't been deleted?

>>155733016
Not in drawing pikachu he doesn't

>>155726289
>>155726498
This. I've seen ever since the dial-up era, there were plenty of sites back then. It isn't anything new.

>>155724282

He's highly satanic pedophilia

>>155733426
Fuck off Nazi.

>>155726354
Pretending like gooner foids don't do the exact same thing.

>>155724282
Literal pedophile

>when your porn hack gets made fun of you start falseflagging epic-style

>>155733066
>No, the heckin zoomies aren't taking the HRT, and then worshiping roasties, and kissing the feet of POC, it's heckin fascism I tells ya
Good, I hope wokies get crushed utterly, and so too this parasitic victim culture that preys on the high trust of (white) western societies exclusively.

>>155733342
There’s no real info on the aftermath, he did get probation but the comic book legal defense fund raised money to cover costs for him and prevented him from going to jail. The case took three years to get through though.

>>155729392
Not on hand, my folders are incredibly unorganized. I can't even remember what they're called. I imagine they'd still be in the archives, but I don't know what to search.

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>"what's the appeal" of drawn porn?
>younglings minds being blown that r34 pre-dates 4chan and people don't stop producing it when they reach a certain age
>pro/anti porn culture war like it's a 1970s feminist convention
This thread's a trip.

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>>155724282
Never opened a milkshake joint irl

>>155733642
That's what happens when you let in a generation of literal sieg-heiling Neo-Nazi's onto your site.

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>>155729636
A big issue is the massive influx growth created a serious homogenization of all the networks online. Right now there is at best two major social media you can go to that can get you good traffic numbers, everything else is to "small" in comparison and worse you have pouching issues. Like right now several sites use places like 4chan to scan replies and reply changes to copy paste them or comparable to their sites to fluff up numbers which then makes it very hard to tell if the site you are trying to throw your ideas and art to is a real community or a AI server harvester that's just going to steal all your work to profit off of. It's why 4chan is so slow anymore because you have all these strange threads where huge amounts of the conversation just one for one show up on a reddit forum or some guys Youtube channel to make it look like they are talking about his content.

Nothing of the pre 2014 internet will be ever seen again.

>>155733418
>I've seen ever since the dial-up era
Wouldn't that make you like 50 years old?

>>155733758
Someone make this image into a MGS2 codec call so I can understand it better