Kinda weird that Side Quests still leans pretty hard into the whole "Finn crushes on PB" thing when you remember where they actually went with her.
>>155731360Kind of refreshing after almost two decades of dykery.
>>155731360>>155731533Can’t wait for the thread to become dangerously insufferable
>>155731360>>155731533They’re doing it to retcon it as “Dyke PB always hated Finn doing this and being a Chud who didn’t ask her consent”Even in your OP inage she’s scowling at him in annoyance trying to hug her, and refusing to hug back.
>>155731620Get a life you walking annoyance
>>155731533this. AT was better when it was pure and innocent.
>>155731762He’s not wrong. The evidence is present.
>>155731950Sure thing
>>155731360Side Quests goal is "Adventure Time but it's episodic again". They want to go back to the pre-Muto era
>>155731360Honestly I would've liked more Shermy and Beth, get the episodic formula back without having to flesh out pieces of Finn's life that already got a decent amount of coverage. Plus I like the far-future aesthetic, bite me
>>155731360The finn crush is harped on as a way to keep unfun dyke character in the story. They can be completely removed and make it into " AU finn goes on random adventure sans princess and queer bullshit" stories and do far better.
>>155732125Craptaste
>>155732125Shermy and Beth are interesting and I'd like to see more of them and their weird future world but I'd like to see a bit more of modern Ooo with adult Finn first before we jump into the future.
>>155731762Running permanent internet defence for a tranny show isn’t a Life.
>>155732125>>155732300The last thing AT needs is MORE quirk chungus women
>>155732339What the fuck does that have to do with anything either comment said?
>>155732316You need to hear that
>>155732300They aren’t
>>155732380The goofy women live rent free in his head, it's practically a condo at this point!
>>155732411Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize you got to decide what I may or may not find interesting for me.Fuck off, moron.
>>155731598AT threads are basically unusable on this board so good luck to anybody looking to have an actual conversation about this show here; or hell, any show at this point
>>155732446Cry us a river
>>155732300Y'know what that's fair, see how his dynamics with some of the others characters has changed too. Even a Graybles-styles anthology would probably work
>>155732530>see how his dynamics with some of the others characters has changedExactly what I was thinking. I want to see how he and PB interact now that he's older and more mature, especially after her breakdown at the end of F&C where she almost had him juiced and see if she feels guilty about that and all the other dangerous stuff she had him do for her when he was young. I'd also like to see more of Finn and Marceline, maybe her reacting to the fact he's demonstrably aging and won't be around forever. Then there's his relationship with HW, that needs a little more screentime, see where they ended up and if they had a family or not if that's something the writers even want to touch on. And then maybe a quiet scene of him reflecting on his life while he reminisces on all his adventures with Jake.I think it could work as a Distant Lands style miniseries, just four or five episodes. I just like Finn a whole lot and want to see more of the big guy is all.
>>155732800I don't exactly trust them to go that far with Peebs, but Marceline having to come to terms with the fact he won't be a constant in her (after)life would be fun. After all she mostly hangs around with the undead or supernatural shit, he's just a lil meatman. Finntress shenanigans would also be appreciated, even as a situationship.>Distant Lands style miniseriesProbably for the best given the pacing issues with F&C's second season, could even see him tapping into the multiverse just to see how the other hims are doing. inb4 gags at the thought of being SP's champion/lover
>>155731533FPWPNever gonna have a good AT thread in this place
>>155731360shes thousands of years old. she deserves better than a simp
>>155731620>>155731762>>155731360>>155731992The old PB, from seasons 1~2 would never act like that. It was clearly something people other than Pen forced into the show. She was a bit crazy but lovely, and always cared for Finn.My theories for this are that someone in the studio or on the internet must've said something like 'hold on, isnt it weird that PB as an adult is interacting with Finn that way?' and/or 'I think the show lacks representation, why not add a LGBTSADJAJ characters?'And so they changed things, and pretended it was aaaalways intended to be that way, which is bullshit.
>>155732979Marceline is a mortal
>>155733062Marceline is literally immortal you stupid twat, she’s a thousand year old vampire.Fuck’s sakes man.
>>155731360Finn is voiced by a troon now. There's no reason the Finn/PB thing should still be a thing. It's just there to beat him down.
>>155733093She’s half-mortal and still abides to the rules of the mortal world
>>155733139She was half-mortal until she got bit by a vampire. Being turned into a vampire overwrites the human half, that’s how it works.
>>155733219No, her vampires in this universe aren’t undead
>>155731360>weirdThe devs are probably just unironically smart people who stopped watching when Pen left and for them Finn and Loligum are canon endgame.
>>155732979It's probably a longshot but a scene where Finn and PB really hash things out would go a long way towards fixing her reputation with some aspects of the fandom, specifically the parts hung up on her more Machiavellian tendencies. Not that I really care about that, I just think it'd be heartwarming to see.And yeah, more Finntress is always appreciated, that last season left a yearning in me. I just want to see them go on a proper adventure together, that's the big one, though I'd remiss if I didn't say I'd also like to see how the two of them get along during the quieter moments as well. I'm not sure if you could still call them a situationship since it seems like Finn is living with her now after the finale, I think what they have is like what Jake and Lady Rainicorn had where they're together but they're not like married or anything.Oh, and there's another character Finn should have a scene with, have him and Lady talk about Jake and what he meant to them, maybe bring in the pups so Finn can interact with his nieces and nephews for once.The multiverse idea could be fun but I'd mostly be in it just to see him and FarmFinn interact. More Farmworld in general is something I want, the setting just interests me.
>>155733319They are definitively undead. When Marcy fought Hunson on "It came from the Nightstosphere", she said "get out of my life", and he responded "you're not even alive!”
>>155733345>The devs
>>155733446Undead means risen from the grave and I didn’t see any vampire do that
>>155733540What the fuck? No it doesn’t. Undead just means technically dead but still animate.You just can’t stomach the fact that you were wrong, can you?
>>155733612No
>>155733612He's clearly a sperg, just ignore him.
>>155731360It's honestly insane how insufferable she became when she got turned into a lesbian.
>>155733632I’m not
>>155733621No? As in, no, I can’t stomach the fact that I was wrong?So you’re agreeing with me then, good to know.
>>155733660I’m not, get your head out of your ass
>>155733121Did they change the voice or did the VA troon out?
>>155733745They changed the voice
>>155731360Well it's supposed to be the "fun" parts of AT and like lost tapes they are easily banking on nostagia. So no real connection to bigger plots and mostly based before main series or in s1 and 2 before massive plot changes.
>>155734855>"fun"No need to use air quotes
Did you anons like her?
>>155734949She must’ve gotten an earful
>>155734970What do you mean anon?
>>155735018Look at her ears
>>155733010>It was clearly something people other than Pen forced into the show.It wasn't forced.>>155731360How is it weird? It's quite established he had a cursh on her. Makes sense it appear.>>155731620There is no retcon.
>>155734949I don’t feel anything about her, that episode was boring. I will say though that season 2 had a surprising amount of good episodes compared to the first season that had lots of boring ones.
>>155735066Ah I get it honestly she seems like a texan girl so probably gets the old school boxed ears lol. But overall I hope they use her again one of the few characters I liked. Reminded me how few kid characters AT really has
>>155735113Really? I liked her it's definitely not super action packed but fun more of a comfy type of adventuring ep. I think it feels like a AT ep compared to some others that felt a bit meh and yeah s2 is much better.
>>155735110It was forced, cope>>155735136>the old school boxed earsGoddam it
>>155731360The writers very likely aren't that big fans of the latter seasons, after all they blatantly choose for this to be set on S1-2 AT, and they are trying to improve the reputation of Bubblegum by shilling her.Howerver the thing is that after so many years people have gotten tired of genuinely terrible characters like PB, even without the bad retcons that they added later on and her being a dyke, she's just the same annoying bitch she's always been, makes me glad that the Paramount merger is very likely screwing over the production of these sloppy spinoffs behind the scenes.
>>155735110Yes there is. PB used to shower Finn with affection, hugs and even kisses. She was his best friend and loved having him around her for adventures or sleepovers or just showing him her hobbies. He beat the Lich using a sweater she said she poured her love into.Getting annoyed if he touches her and refusing to even touch him back or speak to him like an equal is a retcon.
>>155735250Everything after like what s6 was forced so not hard to believeAlso yep the old school, wasn't it found out that could make you hard of hearing over time as well
>>155731360I'm glad we can see more of his wholesome crush before they turned him into a pathetic freakazoid simpzilla humiliation ritual. >Still seething he ratted out RattleballsNot even a second thought after he almost got him merked, they did nothing with the Goliad and Stormo shit.
>>155735110>>155735432Reminder she kissed a 12 year old on the mouth even after he was DQ'd from Wizard Battle and NO ONE cared.
>>155731360Irl not at least patting someone back if they hug you is an extreme douchebag move.Instant communication you consider them Subservient and worthy of getting it back, even a mild one.If I did that to family they'd probably never hug me again.
>>155735855Your family sound insufferable, sorry for you
>>155735873it's just basic social etiquette.If I hugged someone and they just looked down their nose at me in contempt, I'm not doing that again. I'm not giving affection to someone who thinks they're too good for me.
No ones talking about the "Alpha dog" ep and how jake let a whole other dog beat his ass then piss on him?
>>155735943As opposed to a Half other dog?
>>155735903>it's just basic social etiquette.No
>>155732398>>155732411>>155732527Reminder that these are auto-flagging tranny janny bot replies.
>>155735981Yes, it is. Gestures of affection are all mutual. Like if someone gets you a gift they expect a thank you. Or if someone greets you they expect a reply.Being an asshole who will receive affection but won’t give affection back makes it clear you are ungrateful for the other person and think little of them.
>>155736025Damn son, you really are a lost cause
>>155736053Yeah, k
>>155736070>Bot getting desperateYes, you really are a lost cause.
Why couldn’t they just do a series of non canon chibi shorts since the art-style was already similar enough?
>>155736134>non-canonwhose gonna tell em
>>155736140I know what I meant
>>155731360>saw an electronic billboard ad for this in Bucharest .>at a LIDL there was a guy wearing a t-shirt with Finn on itIt seems romanians like Adventure Time, or maybe that guy borrowed it from somebody and doesn’t even know or care about this series.
Whats stopping me from drawing Princess Bubblegum giving Finn the option to get to second base?
>>155736671Nothing
>>155734949Pr0n?
>>155736134because you didnt pay for the project
>>155731360Kinda weird that I threw on Side Quests the other day and it’s actually amazing and this board hasn’t said shit about it
>>155738285Surprise. Anons just missed the time of their lives watching the early AT seasons more than actually watching those seasons.
>>155732339>quirk chungus
>>155739101Stfu, projecting troon
>>155735432>Yes there is. PB used to shower Finn with affection, hugs and even kisses. She was his best friend and loved having him around her for adventures or sleepovers or just showing him her hobbies.She was a minor character with barely any screentime. Jake or Marceline fit the best friend role way better.
>>155737204Probably no time soon, plus more cute than pornable but really we tend to start a lot of those type of porn trends here
>>155731360Is the series out yet or is this just from a trailer?If it's out, post a download link.
>>155732180Urineoff
>>155731360Really is dumb fun like classic AT. Makes me wonder if they are different writers compared to the original crew. Think Marceline was the funniest part of the ep.>>155731620Yeah classic PB was much more just big sis zelda vibes. She definitely didn't have true interest in finn but it wasn't as obvious as later literally why finn got mixed signals. An she actively would try and say things like "You are my hero" as if it held some special exclusivity even when he tried to do his own thing. But for him that meant being something special to her that's like saying you are my personal knight nothing else. Why as they pushed further into this and making her less sympathetic about manipulating finn the more I started to hate later PB.>>155733010True she really was much more fun before they tried so hard to push her. Her being a scienc-y princess but also sweet and caring for her subjects was a cute concept. She was pitched as a super sweet girl who had a bit of a accidental mean streak/ego streak. Later PB became a sociopathic dictator via lore and personality shifts. Girl even treated finn and jake less like friends and more like her personal grunts which wasn't her at all. She always treated them like her best friends or brothers.
>>155741243>She definitely didn't have true interest in finnShe kissed him. Twice.
>>155741286I guess maybe even I forget how sincere PB was, ironically wouldn't put it past a series that started when it did to do the age gap. It's only recently any age gap in series become a big discussion
>>155735981look, this ain't /k/
>>155731360FPBP>>155731533 (checked)>Finn eventually gets with PBAs it should have been.
>>155733010>>155735110PB hugs him right before the lich fight and too young episode. Too young itself has her flirting with him, leaning on him like she later makes an issue out of him doing and then kissing him for the transformation ritual when only a "love hug" is needed. Even after the too young bs she kisses him again anyway in wizard battle even though he wasn't a wizard and cheated. The sudden shift to her cruelly and hypocritically demanding he quickly move on based on thinking a few years had passed (when even if she couldn't easily find out otherwise she's old enough for it to be equivalent to a few weeks even if that time had actually passed) while we're expected to respect the bubbline relationship being resurrected. Even though the bubbline ship according to them ended even longer ago on worse terms and with marceline being more immature than a younger finn to the point of her talking like a school shooter. It is dumb sloppy retcon shit that comes off as extremely forced based on bias instead of being consistent with what was shown or bothering to do these things more naturally in the show. The more generous reasoning is they wanted to profit off cheap drama temporarily boosting views while virtue signaling as gay allies for money the way you see corporations do when trying to sell other products. Not a good look to hijack a show like this just to shit on the main character and portray your gay self inserts as unlikeable in and outside of their relationship.
>>155731620Cry about it, cunt. The sooner PB & Marceline are retconned from being dykes, the sooner the AT franchise can heal.>B-but dats homophobicDon't care. Fuck your gay shit. Finn deserved a harem in the end as a Gigachad after all the hell he went through.
>>155741286This is true. Although it's been like a decade since I last watched, I do remember she used to be very close to Finn, including kissing him (albeit non-romanically) multiple times.This thing where people say she never showed affection in a way that could be understood as romantic towards Finn is bullshit. She did, and it was likely that Pen intended to hint them to be a thing later on, but they decided to retcon it and pretend it never happened. Same thing for Marceline.Someone probably said the thing was problematic, so they decided to kill two birds with one stone, and abruptly cancel the affections from the both of them towards Finn, and make PB and Marceline a thing, thus satisfying some of the more vocal people.
>>155733010>>155735110>>155742781To this day on social media I still see bubbline fans insisting pb or marceline never liked guys. How is a group that "won" in their series still so delusional and nasty? You would think they'd be happier but on some level they must know it's superficial dog water. And you can't offend them by daring to bring up what honestly happened with finn and pb even though you'll bring up his shitty relationship with flame princess and let her kiss him for no real reason in what's supposed to be a season dedicated to his new relationship with huntress wizard. Even when finns life is at risk they would rather bring in the shitty rebound for a sleeping beauty kiss than the relationship the rebound is based on. When that relationship involved finns love for pb both being strong enough to fight back the lich more effectively and him still trying to reunite with her after the shit with flame princess didn't work out. I refuse to believe the age gap thing matters much when these are the same types who would show him fucking slime princess eventually as a genuine outcome. He can stick his dick in old slime but not the talking gum? The bubbline bias is just that strong, only they're allowed to cling to old relationships even though said relationships are measurably worse. And defenders of this still act like they were only teaching a valuable lesson with what they did to finn. If the lesson is don't crash your car and the ones supposedly teaching it show this by crashing a truck into a gas station how do you pretend they're qualified to teach? Just shut the fuck up.
>>155742961It's weird how Marceline said a kiss could actually save Finn but she never tried to kiss him herself.
>>155742850The most vocal people probably bought twilight and otherwise flick it to actual rape porn who gives a fuck. They have no moral high ground. All they did was kill themselves and keep the corpse walking like pic related. Genuinely atp all adventure time is is superficially using pieces from over a decade ago when it was better and more popular to technically keep it going for money. Even the things they seemingly care more about than the rest are executed soullessly.
>>155734949>>155735179>We havd Pippi at home
>there's an ep that's about Finn & Jake playing a video game adaptation of Xayaphone's Cartoon Cartoons shortwhat
>>155743004Even Marceline kissing him would make more sense than letting every other throwaway clearly self interested princess tongue him in his sleep. But the fact that she outright admits she'd try anything yet let's hot dog bitch try it before she ever thinks to is so ridiculously retarded it doesn't make sense. What moment in that timeline could any of them had any sort of relationship with finn rivaling loving someone enough to counter the lich's magic? They're shitty side characters. Dumpster fire princess is predictably already seeing someone else and she's still doing it.
>>155731598Proven right.
>>155743153If the show itself and it's creators are insufferable why expect much better when talking about it?
aw why the hell not, for old times sake, here's the board teams:>K Pakiz/Matthew YangBros & ArrowsDandy BugSon of the Goblin QueenLet It RollJoey WafflesThe Candy SpiritDeath FictionTiny NegsFreelancersHead Hunted>Jesse Moynihan initially with Katie Aldworth (plus some eps she did with other boarders), later with Nick EdwardsSmall Detective (Katie Aldworth/Rose Feduk)Island of Shame (Jesse Moynihan/Katie Aldworth plus Victor Courtright)Punchy (Katie Aldworth/Jesse Moynihan)Love Bugs (Katie Aldworth/Mark Galez)Alpha Dog (Nick Edwards/Jesse Moynihan)The Chore Wheel (Erin Kim/Jesse Moynihan)Text-Based Journey To Donut Palace (Nick Edwards/Jesse Moynihan)Wedgie Tree (Nick Edwards/Jesse Moynihan)>Megan Fisher/Nicolette WoodGolden Gals (plus Niki Yang)All You Can EatGame NightRe-Run Dungeon (plus Victor Courtright)Sunshine KingdomRighteous DudeThe ZiplineTiny Adventure TimeThe Morrow BirdIce Choir>Charlie Bryant/Erin KimDummy Princess (Charlie Bryant/Rose Feduk)Key QuestThe Prophecy (plus Victor Courtright)Car WarsThe Chore Wheel (Erin Kim/Jesse Moynihan)Toad Wrestlers (plus Victor Courtright)The Notorious Pup Gang (additional boards by Jason Dwyer)Sweet ToothEscape From The Baby Kingdom (plus Victor Courtright)>OtherCursed Words (Victor Courtright)Rescue Princess (Pen Ward/Niki Yang)Storm Rider (Somvilay Xayaphone/Bert Youn plus Katie Aldworth/Drew Green)Curse of the Unread (Graham Falk; additional boards by K Pakiz/Matthew Yang)
Over fifteen years ago... Yikes
No matter how much they try to rewrite history it just makes them look worse. Unless you're outright remaking the show it doesn't work. Because the whole reason flame princess exists and is given any relevance is based on the finn and pb relationship they fucked up. And the excuse for fucking it up is pb's responsibility to the kingdom coming before relationships and then later finn being too "immature". But marcelines old ass was even more immature than finn leading up to her breakup with pb and they still get back together despite her still running the kingdom. They have her autistic failed creation cock block finn but marceline is allowed to slide in just fine. They don't get talked down to and told to hurry up and move on to something healthier instead of being stuck in the past. This is apparently what counts as gay representation. All this really looks like is a bunch of annoying hypocrite losers throwing out shit at people and then trying to use gayness as a shield for any shit they get thrown back at them. And they're mostly not even gay they're just fake and probably hate men for being less fuckable. Just pathetic shit. But the shills here always lurking would pretend I'm pathetic for pointing it out. We're both still here bitch the difference is you can't defend what you're saying.
>>155742821I think they can remove all of the princesses, queers, and romance entirely and have a tighter far more marketable show to the entirely unserved boy audience.
>>155743368lol that still pisses you off? Damn guess it worked.
>>155743421They don't watch cartoons. They play video games.
>>155743443I made that post in direct response to the OP topic. All I posted was the truth of the situation. If you're a troll or an agitated bubbline fan it doesn't change anything on its own. So what is it, desperate for attention or irritated fanboy trying to fight back?
>>155731620>>155741243I always thought the intent was that she was deliberately leading him on to get free defense.
>>155742961>How is a group that "won" in their series still so delusional and nasty?They feel like their victory was tainted and not earned, thus they’re insecure about it,
>>155743454What cartoons would be worth watching at this stage? You have the indie stuff that takes months to post one episode. You have toddler slop. People are hyped up for invincible but they cared more about the unimportant voice actors than quality animation while making it, and that's especially bad when the adaptation story is also noticeably worse than what the comics already was.
>>155743510>invincibleHow that garbage got animated is beyond me.
>>155743454Because boy aimed cartoons are now mostly "inclusive" feminist/queer propoganda made by middle aged queers/foids/creepy betas for middle aged queers/disturbed foids/creepy betas.
>>155743501I felt it was much less intentional and much more just she was too big brain for her own good. Later on they make it much more obvious she is a piece of shit. Even one of the comics call this out when she tries to test humanity to see if they are a threat and if finn would defend her or them. Literally idk why she became worse when they had more female writers on the crew. Why write her to be so manipulative and toxic. Before I saw her like frankie a cool big sis type who isn't just basic princess but also is a care giver at her core.
Paramount better not cancel Bubblegum & Marceline or else there will be war niggaWar
>>155743583That would be like burning money. They can't throw it out now. Unless they are retarded.
>>155743501That doesn't work when she's shown obviously caring about him. Even if she was purely using him as a weapon or defense it doesn't make sense to push your tool to suicide. Something that could actually work as an explanation for the sudden ooc cruel treatment is her suffering side effects of being possessed by the lich. You would think the lich would be the type to weaponize the love that kept finn alive and fighting him. But in reality it just seems like the writing team or whoever was involved with the story coincidentally set it up in such a way that they ironically seem like they're lich possessed. Mentally and then physically torturing finn for what turned out to be no good reason besides the suffering itself. It makes more sense to do out of revenge than as some lesson they couldn't consistently live by themselves.
>>155743553Not very big brained to insist time passed when it didn't and to hypocritically push away someone that's been helping you
>>155743501S1 PB was too dumb for that. She wasn't smarter than Finn or Marceline.
>>155743583>>155743590What is there to be excited about with that spinoff
>>155743656>The small probability of softcore cannon scissoring>Also an opportunity to compensate for F&C's second season>More lore and deep dramaidk
>>155743583I’ll be honest man I’m only tangentially interested in checking out that spinoff on the off chance Finn and HW show up in some no doubt small capacity. If there’s any multiverse stuff in it like we see Farmworld and Vampireworld that would also be interesting but I’m not banking on that.
>>155743656iykyk
>>155743619True really think pen was based and he left the series in the hands of idiots. An gave them no real direction since he left the same season he said it should have ended on.
>>155742754No
>>155743699>>deep
>>155742961I hate that spoiled cunt, I bet her family still does all the actual political stuff to this day.
>>155744139Nu ATfags think quirky dykes singing “scrumbly dumbly glip glop french fries DAAAADDYY!” on a ukelele is Deep, yes.>>155743699Didn’t you already say this was “softcore canon scissoring”?It’s redundant now you already got it confirmed.
>>155744321You already used your buzzwords that one time
>>155742961God this whole scene was completely unnecessary and pointless, it doesn't even follow up on its own internal logic because none of these bitches had any real connection with Finn, and the only one that had any connection with him in the past was FP, and apparently they dug her out from the grave just to turn her into a cheating whore, wtf is wrong with these writers?
>>155735432>PB used to shower Finn with affectionShe never stopped.>getting annoyed if he touches her and refusing to even touch him backThat has never been a thing, anon. And if you are tlaking about the vampire thing, this was never "being annoyed", it was a "not the right time, Finn" moment.You clearly do'nt know how a woman react when she actually doesn't want to be touched.>>155742781>The sudden shift to her cruelly and hypocritically demanding he quickly move onThere was no shift. Nor cruellity.You are making it all in your head.>>155742961>insisting pb or marceline never liked guys.No one is claiming this here. And I am quite certain most people aren't denying that PB and Marcie are bi.
>>155744734>just to turn her into a cheating whoreThat's not what happened, anon.
>>155744742She straigjt up claims to be dating someone else right after kissing Finn, how is this not cheating?
>>155744734Neat fanfiction.
>>155744757She’s a spoiled whore so it fits
>>155744735Stop coping, cuck
>>155744757Do you consider any engaged person to give CPR to someone who isn't their partner to be a cheating whore?
>>155744768Don’t be delusional
>>155744825>cuck1. I am not Finn2. You are not Finn either3. Stop inserting yourself into fictional character to live your ship through them if you can not content yourself with fanfction.4. You do not even understand what the word "cuck" means.
>>155744840You don’t have to project your failures
>>155744871I am not the one throwing a tantrum because of events concerning fictional characters that did not even happen.
>>155744880Sure thing
>>155744887Who of the two of us, is complaining about the shipping situation in Adventure Time?
>>155744893You are defending the dyke cunts
>>155744911And?
>>155744928And you are wrong and a smarmy annoyance
>>155744828>CPRThat's a bad comparison to excuse her actions because we have zero clue that this was even gonna work in the first place contrary to someone fucking drowning IRL, again this whole scene was a bad attempt a fanservice and pointless.
>>155744979>you are wrongYou are clearly the one who is throwing a tantrum about a fictional ship, here.
>>155744993>That's a bad comparisonIt isn't, actually.>because we have zero clue that this was even gonna workSure, let's not do a life-saving technique because we are not sure it going to work, despite living in a world where magic is actually real and we actually saw an obvious clue that the kisses were actually delaying Finn's death.
>>155744996No
>>155745085We can all see you being mad at dykes, anon.
>>155745089No, I only called out your bullcrap
>>155745024>despite living in a magic worldAnd out of magic world apparently the best idea they could come up with was kiss comatose Finn for sloppy fanservice, even PB points out they were unsuccessful >we actually saw an obvious clue that the kisses were actually delaying Finn's death.The pic you posted didn't happen up until after the scene had already happened, from the characters PoV they did nothing and the fact we don't learn this up until later makes you think that the writers realized they fucked up in giving a proper justication for that shitty scene.
>>155745164You failed to show any.
>>155745197>The pic you posted didn't happen up until after the scene had already happenedThus we are shown the effects of it in Finn's dream. We are clued that it delayed Finn's death.>And out of magic world apparently the best idea they could come up with was kiss comatose FinnYes.So once again, it is CPR. Do you consider CPR cheating?
>>155745240No
>>155745268>nuhu
>>155745247>Thus we are shown the effects of it in Finn's dream. We are clued that it delayed Finn's death.And once again, the characters have no clue of this and this clue wasn't even shown beforehand, this is why your CPR comparison doesn't work, retard.
>>155745280>And once again, the characters have no clue of thisDoesn't change my point: "let's not do this potentially life-saving stuff because we are not 100% sure it will actually work" is stupid. Especially as it actually works.So do you consider doing CPR cheating?
there's a lot of discussion and not a lot of facts going around. I have JERKED OFF to bbugum too much for this level of meandering slander. >>155736134are you implying anyone here watched the show, its bonus seasons and the follow up fionna and cake shittyseries? At best you'd get a minifeature in a canon non-canon adventure
>>155745323No, coomertard
>>155745323I liked Fiona and Cake.
>>155745299>"let's not do this potentially life-saving stuff because we are not 100% sure it will actually work" is stupidAnd the problem with your point is the we don't even know this is life-saving in the first place, and the clue shown later on is just there because realized they fucked up justifying this, hence why your CPR comparison doesn't work.Cannot believe you're actually trying to rationalize a cheap fanservice kiss scene where they blatantly bring one his failed relationship saying that is CPR when the writers could have done anything else, what a load of bullshit.
>>155731360can someone explained how is this a disney production? I thought AT was a warner IP.
>>155745448They only distribute it
>>155745388>And the problem with your point is the we don't even know this is life-saving in the first placeAnd the problem with YOUR point is that you would withhold a procedure because you are not 100% certain it would work."Sure, it could help, but we are not 100% certain, so we won't do it" Do you realise how stupid it is? You are aware that CPR itself isn't a 100% sure way to save someone either, right?So do you consider doing CPR as cheating?
>>155745464NTA, but why not Grand Master Wizard since he knows Simon since surely would help cure Finn and Bonnie could swallow her pride or Hunson since he (and Marceline) likes Finn and probably knows a thing or two about spiritual poisons?
>>155745464>"Sure, it could help, but we are not 100% certain, so we won't do it" is stupidAnd once again under what logic the characters follow this, how do the characters know this will even help, have they done this beforehand? And don't tell me >hurr durr magic world, because once you bring up that, the there's the question that why out of all things they could have done in a magic world the writers choose a kiss, oh yeah that's right, because this is just a cheap fanservice scene and the CPR comparison is just a rationalization that you're trying to bring up to justify F&C shit writing, I won't reply anymore because you're just trying to argue in circles.
>>155745448Disney only distributes it, WB still owns the IP
>>155745509It's strongly implied they tried everything. Maybe tit happened off-screen.>>155745543>And once again under what logic the characters follow this, how do the characters know this will even helpThat this is a magical world where Princesses are actually known to have power. Which we have a confirmation of.>because this is just a cheap fanserviceYou mistake is to think that being fanservice AND being an in-story justified reason are somehow mutually exclusive.So do you consider that doing CPR is cheating?
>>155743368wasn't there a version of this pic where they were complaining of people not liking this ship in a very passive aggresive way? kek
>>155743368Anon, are you aware that bi people exist?
>>155743368>And the excuse for fucking it up is pb's responsibility to the kingdom coming before relationships and then later finn being too "immature". But marcelines old ass was even more immature than finn leading up to her breakup with pb and they still get back together despite her still running the kingdomYou are rewritting history. The actual reason it didn't work between Finn and PB was the age difference.Without the Earl of Lemongrab, she could have remained the ruler of Candy Kingdom and date Finn at the same time.You aren't exposing any contradiction, there.
>>155745643nta, but most "bi" people are schizo women that kiss a women once per year and then date guys while using the bi label for brownie points; even the gays usually point this out
>>155745667No, not really.
>>155745670yes it is, in fact it's even worse with things such as "non-binaries" for some reason young women love to do this
>>155745688Anon, stereotype made up on the internet are not always true.
>>155731360I'm so disappointed they didn't do more with Raggedy Princess
>>155744735>There was no shift. Nor cruellity.Before too young and during she hugs, leans on and kisses finn then switches to acting like it happened a few years earlier while insisting he should stop trying those things with her or else he's a silly weirdo who can't move on. She was rushing a grieving process based on that time that clearly never passed, while the audience is expected to respect a more toxic even older lesbian relationship being held on to and revived. That is a sudden shift or change in how she treats finn and cruel besides being stupid and inconsistent.>No one is claiming this hereIn the sentence you tried quoting it specifically talks about bubbline fans on general social media who still do that. Because I just interacted with another one on Instagram and have seen someone argue the same on this board. You specifically not trying to make this claim is irrelevant to the point so pay attention next time or shut the fuck up.
>>155746091>while the audience is expected to respect a more toxicIt's not more toxic, anon.>In the sentence you tried quoting it specifically talks about bubbline fans on general social mediaEven there, the majority of AT fans agree they are bi.
>>155746091>That is a sudden shiftThere was nothing sudden about PB and Marcie getting together. It was a process that took several seasons.
>>155744828It's not just cpr look at the scene >>155742961 the kiss itself is about waking him up with romantic love and she specifically brings up their past relationship. That's inappropriate as fuck to be doing in general when the relationship is already long dead but even more when you apparently already have another partner. He didn't just have water in him or something that only flame princess could get out, there's no real reason for her kissing him besides bringing up the shitty romance they had.
>>155746139see>>155745590>You mistake is to think that being fanservice AND being an in-story justified reason are somehow mutually exclusive.> That's inappropriate as fuck to be doingIt's the standard princess magical kiss, anon. Nothing more, nothing less.>here's no real reason for her kissing himThere is actually a clue that those kiss delayed Finn's state.>>155745024
>>155746121No
>>155746258It's just fact, anon.They build up to it for several seasons and they only end up back together for the final.
>>155745663>You are rewritting history. The actual reason it didn't work between Finn and PB was the age differenceYour stupid ass just didn't pay attention. In too young and then repeated in burning low it's specifically brought up that "responsibility demands sacrifice" and the reason pb changes her technical physical age instead of staying with finn is because lemongrab arbitrarily tried to take the kingdom. In too old which is right after the flame princess break up they double down on making finn look stupid for no reason just to say he's too immature for pb, specifically having her say she has citizens to take care of and can't treat everything as a little boy game.The relationship is treated as something he should just move on from and they try to shift from it being about pb being too busy to also saying finn is just too immature. Yet, again, marceline was more immature and annoying than finn (even while trying too hard to make him look bad in relationships) but her and pb are allowed to get back together just fine. The same time they're talking down to finn for trying to hold on to his first relationship he used to survive the lich they celebrate the precious lesbian self inserts for holding on to a more toxic much older relationship instead of just seeing new people. And all these retarded fans love complaining about how weird finn was yet they wouldn't take it much better if they were lied to and tormented with no justification.>it's just a cartoon >ur not finnYet you take the cartoon super seriously when it's time to defend it or the poorly done lesbians blatantly used as a type of representation for gays. The show takes itself too seriously despite being incapable of handling the subjects it involves.
>>155746113>It's not more toxic, anon.Marceline in obsidian threatening people's lives outright saying they don't matter because she wants pb to give her unending attention IS more toxic.>>155746121There was a sudden unjustified shift in how pb treated finn at the same time bubbline was being set up with what was missing, that's only shortly after too young. They have finn miserable over his sloppily hypocritically ended relationship with pb all the way to season 6 breezy at least. The bubbline relationship was sudden and pushed in despite conditions that were used as justification to specifically not have pb in any relationship. Restrictions for finn, not for the precious gay self insert fap material.
>>155746329>In too young and then repeated in burning low it's specifically brought up that "responsibility demands sacrifice"Read >>155745663>Without the Earl of Lemongrab, she could have remained the ruler of Candy Kingdom and date Finn at the same time.again.Responsibility is why she decide to grow old again. But it's not the responsibility itself that made them broke up, but the age difference that stem from it.None of that discredit her later relationship with Marcie.(also, in burning low, it actually conclude with Flame Princess, despite having responsibilities, still dating Finn).
>>155746397>>155746388Accept your defeat
>>155746388>Marceline in obsidian threatening peopleYou are aware that this caused them to break up, right?That relationship at that time was toxic, but this thread is mostly talking about the one that developed in the later season of AT.>There was a sudden unjustified shift in how pb treated finnIt wasn't a shift. PB has consistently kept treating Finn the same way all along.>They have finn miserable over his sloppily hypocritically ended relationship with pb all the way to season 6 breezyFinn being down in season 6 was due to his father's betrayal and the loss of his arm. and maybe a bit of his break up with Flame Princess. He was way over PB at this point.
>>155746414see>>155746432You are not watching at this show objectively and your view is twisted by self-inserting with Finn to ship yourself with PB.
>>155746443I don’t, keep coping
>>155746397The arbitrary lemongrab involvement and responsibility to the kingdom is outright used to explain why she can't be in a relationship. The fact you couldn't pay better attention to the explanation given in the most watched episode in the entire show doesn't mean history is being rewritten by me. You're just fucking dumb. Flame princess doesn't have the same responsibility that pb did and was kept trapped before getting with finn.
>>155746432>delusions
>>155746453I am not the one unable to make an actual argument.>The arbitrary lemongrab involvement and responsibility to the kingdom is outright used to explain why she can't be in a relationship.You are trying to argue that it's contradictory for PB to be in a relationship because it wouldn't mesh right with her responsibilities. But seeing her reponsibilities is only an INDIRECT reason that it doesn't work out with Finn, this argument no longer stand.Heck, as a princess, PB is even expected to have a suitor. Trying to argue that PB having a partner is contradicted by earliest episode is really grasping for straws.>>155746461I am not the one trying to reinvent episodes to attempt to establish a ship shouldn't have happened.
>>1557465132nd paragraph for >>155746457
>>155746139Anon please, they've been all thread trying to rationalize that scene as just CPR to justify the sloppy writing, not a big surprise coming from shitty Fionna and Cake fans
>>155731620This anon gets it.
>>155746432>You are aware that this caused them to break up, right?You're aware they got back together anyway, right? Even if someone improves their behavior it doesn't make sense to revive that kind of relationship while you're insisting the mc should just move on as a sign of true maturity over a much less messy breakup. That's the issue. Bubbline was worse than even marcelines relationship with ash but they still revived it.>Finn being down in season 6 was due to his father's betrayal and the loss of his arm. and maybe a bit of his break up with Flame Princess. He was way overPB at this pointJake specifically mentions one of the girls he's hanging around is a mix of both flame princess and pb and that he's still hung up on them. How the fuck is your stupid ass going to argue with me about something you can't even pay attention to?
>>155743501She does that to literally every character so anyone denying this just because they don't like the implications it has on her relationship with Finn aren't seeing the forest for the trees.
>>155746529>they've been all thread trying to rationalize that scene as just CPRYou have been unable to argue otherwise.You have been trying to present someone trying to save someone else's life as being a cheating whore. I think you should worry more about your own mental state.>>155746529>this screencapHow can you not see that Fiona is presented there as being 100% in the wrong.Also, not an excuse for what she did, but get your facts straight, she didn't cheat, she kissed someone who was already with someone else.Heck, if anything, the actual cheater, Flame DJ, actually received less shit despite being the actual cheater.
>>155746568Don’t ignore the truth
>>155746540>You're aware they got back together anyway, right?Yes and this relationship was not toxic.>Jake specifically mentions one of the girls he's hanging around is a mix of both flame princess and pb and that he's still hung up on them.Jake also thought that PB was jealous of Finn in burning low. He is not always right.
>>155746513>>155746525>Heck, as a princess, PB is even expected to have a suitor. Trying to argue that PB having a partner is contradicted by earliest episode is really grasping for strawsIgnoring that pb is outright shown using her responsibility to the kingdom as an excuse for not being in a relationship just outs you as not paying attention to the show. The episode where pb is pushed to have a suitor based on her position as princess also ends with her dismissing it and giving one of the suitors a sex bot of her. The fuck are you even arguing about.
>>155746583I have ignored nothing.
>>155746568Anon these faggots despise women, they will find anything that justifies their view that they deserve less. That isn't even an insult, they are very likely gay.
>>155746601>Ignoring that pb is outright shown using her responsibility to the kingdom as an excuse for not being in a relationshipNot my argument. The opposite even.My argument is that PB's responsibilities is NOT a reason for her to not be in a relationship. Therefore, it's not a contradiction for to start dating Marcie.
>>155746594>Yes and this relationship was not toxicDoesn't matter when the show and it's fans limit the possibility of a relationship between finn and pb based on less toxic more temporary behavior and more justified behavior.>Jake also thought that PB was jealous of Finn in burning lowJake wasn't the only one who thought that since normally in relationships there's lingering feelings even when you end on worse terms than finn and pb did, in this specific case only the lesbian relationship is allowed to have that basic reality be expressed though. And finn was caught trying to reconnect with pb immediately after his breakup with the rebound fire girl who's based on his relationship with pb. So Jake has even more reason to be right in his observation. Not only is finns relationship with flame princess a direct result of being cut off from being with pb based on nonsense but even after the relationship with flame princess he's still trying to reconnect with pb despite being talked down to.
>>155746619>My argument is that PB's responsibilities is NOT a reason for her to not be in a relationshipWhat you're arguing is contradicted by the show itself outright explaining pb is too busy for a relationship and that that was the reasoning given for breaking up her and finn. So it is a contradiction to say finn can't ever be with pb again because she's busy and he was temporarily immature while allowing marceline back despite her being more immature and pb still having a kingdom to run. There's no lemongrab coming to break them up. They arbitrarily limited the finn and pb relationship while ignoring their own set limits to push yuri slop.
>>155746666>when the show and it's fans limit the possibility of a relationship between finn and pb based on less toxic more temporary behavior and more justified behaviorI have no idea what you tried to communicate, there.>Jake wasn't the only one who thought that since normally in relationships there's lingering feelings even when you end on worse terms than finn and pb did, in this specific case only the lesbian relationship is allowed to have that basic reality be expressed though.You are talking about a crush PB had when she had the mental state of a 12 year old. No, it does not always leave lingering feeling. Jake can be full of shit sometimes, it's as simple as that.
>>155746705>What you're arguing is contradicted by the show itself outright explaining pb is too busy for a relationshipExcept I have already explained several time that this is not the case, nor the direct reason PB and Finn broke up. So no, there is no contradiction there.
>>155746706>Jake can be full of shit sometimesYou are, and always
>>155746716At least I can make real arguments based on what actually happens in the show.
>>155746758Yeah right
>>155746706>I have no idea what you tried to communicate, there.You can't pay attention to what you're watching and trying to argue about so that's not surprising>You are talking about a crush PB had when she had the mental state of a 12 year oldIt goes beyond the crush but pb kept the memories of her previous form when she went small, and in her previous form she shows more care for finn. Again before too young and the transformation she's hugging finn just fine but cuts him off from that bit of affection based on what happened in too young. People don't always have lingering feelings but it makes even less sense to be much colder to an ex than you were when things were more platonic between you. You're full of shit now, it's as simple as that.
>>155746715>Except I have already explained several time that this is not the caseYou feeling that wasn't the case isn't an explanation. The actual explanation is in burning low, too old etc. outright saying responsibility to the kingdom comes before having a partner. So no you have no explanation.
>>155746769>You can't pay attention to what you're watching and trying to argue about so that's not surprisingNothing you are saying here change that PB and MArcie's relationship by the later seasons of AT wasn't toxic.>Again before too young and the transformation she's hugging finn just fine And also after.>but cuts him off from that bit of affectionShe doesn't. > but it makes even less sense to be much colder to an ex That's not the case, anon. You are now relying on making shit up.
>>155746758What actually happened in the show involves a direct quote explaining that responsibility demands sacrifice and not being with someone despite wanting to. You saying "nah that wasn't a thing" doesn't count as an argument.
>>155746789>You feeling that wasn't the case isn't an explanation.No, but you outright explaining to you that it's the age difference and that without the Earl, she could have continued to rule and assume her responsibilities does.showing that even as an older princess, she is still expected to have suitors does.Therefore, PB having responsibilities is NOT a valid reason to claim her relationship with Marcie is a contradiction.
>>155742821They're literally getting a show about them being lesbos. Cope harder
>>155746804>a direct quote explaining that responsibility demands sacrificeThat is the reason for her growing up. it is not the direct reason for them breaking up.So no, there is no contradiction with her having responsibilities AND dating Marcie.And mind you, they only really get back together again in the final, AFTER she go a whole arc about being less of a control freak. So, again, no contradiction.
>>155746801Nothing you are saying about the revived rel eventually not being toxic changes the fact it was toxic and shouldn't have been revived based on the shows own actual reasoning for keeping finn and pb separated.>That's not the case, anon. You are now relying on making shit upRefusing to even hug someone or show simple affection despite you just flirting with and kissing them is cold. Especially when before too young and before she transforms she does hug him and show concern for his wellbeing. She went from hugging him and being worried he'd get sick to completely dismissing his suffering based on time that clearly didn't pass.
>>155746818>No, but you outright explaining to you that it's the age differenceIn burning low pb never says "age demands sacrifice" it's "responsibility demands sacrifice". The only reason she changes her physical age is based on taking care of the kingdom. You can't pay attention.
>>155746827You cope
WTF they actually did the meme?!?
>>155743583I wonder what they're gonna do, I don't see AT as an IP getting completely nuked since it's one of the few profitable ones from CN, however I'd see Paramount definitely messing up with the current production and even writing off some like that spin-off or the movie due to the debt accumulated, there's always cuts when a merger happens
>>155746840>Nothing you are saying about the revived rel eventually not being toxic changes the fact it was toxicActually, it does. IF a relationship is no longer toxic, then it isn't toxic, anon.And you have shown nothing establishing how their relationship in the later seasons of AT is toxic.>Refusing to even hug someoneNot the case. Why are you making shit up?
>>155746840>>155746830
>>155746855>In burning low pb never says "age demands sacrifice"In Burning Low, PB and Flame Princess still continue to date at the end of the episode. The show does not establish there that responsibilities forbid relationship.
>>155746868?
>>155746830>That is the reason for her growing up. it is not the direct reason for them breaking up.In too young she outright says "I wish I could stay with you" and then in burning low while bringing up the situation again she says "even if you want to be with someone you can't because responsibility demands sacrifice". So yes her being busy with the kingdom was outright used as the reason for why she couldn't be with finn. Limiting finn and pb's relationship and then removing those limitations for bubbline is a contradiction.
>>155746867Actually, it doesn't. It was still a thing regardless of what happened or changed later. If a relationship that was less toxic isn't allowed to be revived based on that bit of toxicity there's no real defense reviving a worse relationship.>>155746877Flame princess and pb never dated each other or had the same responsibility, flame princess was locked up. Holy shit you're stupid.
>>155746949>Actually, it doesn't. It was still a thingYou have been unable to demonstrate that.>Flame princess and pb never dated each otherThat doesn't contradict what I said.>>155746901>In too young she outright says "I wish I could stay with you"That doesn't contradict my point. In this specific occasion, she had to grow up back again, but that doesn't meant that responsibilities ALWAYS forbid you from being in relationship.> in burning low while bringing up the situation again she says "even if you want to be with someone you can't because responsibility demands sacrifice".And yet Finn and FP continue dating.You have failed to show any contradiction.
Does Fionna get raped like Finn did?
>>155747082Finn didn't get raped.
>>155746867But when finn needed a hug over her breaking his heart all she could offer him was mocking him and insisting he rush the grieving process based on 5 years passing that she could easily confirm didn't fucking pass. >Oh but muh precious ancient scissoring act is so healthy and valid>we need MOAR focus and respect for that insteadFuck bubbline. Fuck the adventure time showrunners. Fuck the retarded fans. Pretentious hypocrite wastes of semen.
>>155747097He kinda did
>>155747141Kissing with tongue isn't rape, anon.
>>155747080>That doesn't contradict my point. In this specific occasion, she had to grow up back again, but that doesn't meant that responsibilities ALWAYS forbid you from being in relationshipIt wasn't just applied to the case of her technically changing forms, since she kept her memories during the whole process and was never actually a kid, she repeated this sentiment to keep finn away from flame princess. In this specific case with pb her responsibility DID keep her from having relationships. Even in the suitor case you sloppily tried referencing she's still too busy to actually have a partner and sends the guy off with a bot that looks like her. A suitor was forced by peppermint butler which would make it just an extension of her responsibility to the kingdom instead of an organic relationship. >And yet Finn and FP continue datingFp didn't have the same responsibility and the reasoning was based on pb's own described beliefs or limitations that finn wasn't willing to accept a second time outside of her. For pb specifically her responsibility to the kingdom WAS used to keep her out of an actual relationship until they decided to break that rule for the yuri slop.
>>155747136>But when finn needed a hug over her breaking his heart all she could offer him was mocking himShe was seeing it as a crush, anon. It's the normal reaction of an 18 year old reacting to a barely-teenager confessing.You fail to establihs any shift or that she ceased to treat him kindly.>recious ancient scissoring act is so healthy and validIt's the new one that was healthy, anon, not the ancient one. Why are you trying to put in my mouth arguments I didn't made?>Fuck bubblineYou have failed to show any vallid reason why this ship shouldn't be.
>>155747166It was in spirit
>>155747231>she repeated this sentiment to keep finn away from flame princess.She didn't. Her issue was FP having a metldown. Finn and FP continued dating afterward.You still haven't shown any contradiction with the show concerning Marcie and PB dating.>Fp didn't have the same responsibilitySo you agree that the break up of Finn and PB was purely circumstantial, then?
>>155747255Then Fiona was raped "in spirit" by the Ice Prince.
>>155747232>She was seeing it as a crush, anonIt doesn't change what it actually was, retard. No time had actually passed like she said and she completely dismissed both the obvious reality and his suffering to insist he get over everything quicker, all while later still not being over an actual toxic older relationship. Stupid useless bubbline faggot. You have failed at life. Stop pretending to have a point and complaining about self inserts while poorly defending gay self insert.
>>155747256>She didn'tShe did by literally explaining to finn responsibility demands sacrifice. The whole reason finn gets mad at that is because it's a repeat of what she says in too young before kissing him then mocking him.
>>155747288>It doesn't change what it actually was, retard.It doesn't contradict anything I have said either, nor does it makes it a contradiction that she start dating Marcie later, after she got a whole arc about being less of a control freak.
>>155731360Doesn’t the comic end with them as a throuple with marceline?
>>155747313>She did by literally explaining to finn responsibility demands sacrificeAnd yet Finn and FP continued dating. And Finn got mad because Jake thought she was jealous and told him so.>then mocking him.It wasn't mocking, anon. It was the normal reaction of an 18 year old rejecting the crush of a barely-teenager.
>>155747318Bubbline is an error anyway >>155747270Not what I meant
>>155747318The show and characters contradicts itself by saying finn should just move on quicker and pb can't be in a relationship specifically because she's busy with the kingdom only to revive an older more unhealthy lesbian relationship.
>>155747346>Bubbline is an errorYou have failed to demonstrate that.>Not what I meantThen Finn wasn't raped "in spirit" either.
>>155747345>And Finn got mad because Jake thought she was jealous and told him so.
>>155747360Retard
>>155747097He literally did and even in the most liberal interpetation of what went down that happening to Fionna would be called rape, kill yourself.
>>155747361Literally what happened.>>155747381No argument.
>>155747398Neither is your bullcrap
>>155747384>He literally didHe literally didn't. He was kissed with tongue and could have stopped it at any point if he wanted.
>>155747345>And yet Finn and FP continued datingBecause it was about pb first and they chose not to conform to her own reasoning for not being able to have a relationship you fucking idiot. Finn got mad because pb was suddenly bringing up what happened in too young again while speaking about him possessively after treating him coldly leading up to burning low. You couldn't pay attention to the show you're trying to talk about.
Bonnie should have been fucked by Flame King and filled with his magmatic jizz
>>155747414>Because it was about pb first and they chose not to conform to her own reasoning for not being able to have a relationshipSo you agree that the show never stated that you can't date if you have responsibilities and that, therefore, there is no contradiction with PB dating Marcie later on, after she has learned to be less of a control freak?
>>155747398Finn was mad and pb got suspected as being jealous because she was getting involved in finns new relationship and bringing up what happened in the too young episode between them. That's why he says "now you like me?" because she's been acting like she has no love left for him romantically or platonically only to then suddenly remind him of their time together and limit his access to the rebound he's using to try and get over pb. It wasn't just about what Jake said because objectively this bitch was acting weird and inappropriate even if she had zero actual jealousy. Notice when talking to finn in that episode she also says "you're MY hero" which does sound possessive and isn't helping with the jealousy allegations.
>>155747456I agree that finn wasn't limited to the same thing pb was, but pb was limited by her responsibility to the kingdom according to the show. That's the whole reason given for her changing forms and leaving finn to look stupid.
>>155747533>That's why he says "now you like me?"Jake literally tell him PB is jalous after not listening to her.>>155747558>but pb was limited by her responsibility to the kingdom according to the show.>according to the show.The show actually proceed to have Finn and FP keep dating despite her having responsibility. So, no, it isn't the show itself that says that.
>>155747642>Finn and FP keep dating despite her having responsibilityNo, she never once did crap (yeah right) while dating
>>155746397>Responsibility is why she decide to grow old again. But it's not the responsibility itself that made them broke up, but the age difference that stem from itThe age difference was only superficial when she keeps all her memories and it was put back in place specifically because of responsibility to the kingdom. Even if she relaxes more later it's still the excuse that was used to break up finn and pb while setting up bubbline only a few episodes later, not much later into the series. What they did and how they handled it by rushing finn was arbitrary, contradictory and cruel.
>>155747700?
>>155747713>The age difference was only superficial when she keeps all her memoriesNo, it isn't. You can clearly see it affect her behaviour and mental state.Anyway, none of that result in a contradiction when MArcie and PB start dating.
>>155747716You know what I mean
>>155747642Jake says she's jealous but pb literally brings up what happened with her and finn in too young and acts weirdly possessive while talking with him.>The show actually proceed to have Finn and FP keep dating despite her having responsibilityBecause fp didn't have pb's responsibility and was just existing being trapped by her father. Pb gives up a relationship specifically because she's busy with the kingdom and then explains this reasoning again in burning low by saying responsibility demands sacrifice. Finn and fp don't say this and I never argued they said this so your stupid ass pointing to them not conforming to that makes no sense. For pb specifically her responsibility was used to keep her out of a relationship. Pay attention or shut the fuck up already.
>>155746329>>155746397The Lemongrab thing was retarded, just Sugar throwing Pen's ending in the trash so she could write her OOC lesbian fanfiction. Lemongrab was effectively a villain usurping the kingdom. BG could have either had him executed on the spot or have Finn beat his ass up.
>>155747725>No, it isn't. You can clearly see it affect her behaviour and mental stateYes, it was. Because she kept her memories in between forms along with the maturity to take back responsibility for the kingdom. In pajamas wars and these later seasons showing her taking a break from her citizens it shows this even more. Finn wasn't allowed to be with pb because she was busy with the kingdom and couldn't relax, not just because of technical age difference that can be changed depending on how much gum she's carrying around. Not just because finn was actually too immature or young. She was too busy. Not too busy for the yuri slop apparently though.
>>155747755No, I really don't. What is your point, there?>>155747789>Jake says she's jealous but pb literally brings up what happened with her and finn in too youngNo, she doesn't.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-0CKnpgR-g>Because fp didn't have pb's responsibilityPointing that out doesn't make PB and MArcie dating a contradiction.
>>155747803>just Sugar throwing Pen's ending in the trashThat's not what happened at all. Why do you believe this?>>155747856> Because she kept her memories in between forms along with the maturityThat doesn't contradict what I said.
>>155747863Yes, she does. In too young she says to finn "I wish I could stay with you but-" and the but part is she's forced to prioritize the kingdom over a relationship you fucking moron. She IS repeating the sentiment she gave in too young and that's why finn is mad in burning low. Marcy and pb dating is a contradiction when they cut finn off from dating pb over her responsibility and less immaturity being shown.
>>155747926>She IS repeating the sentimentThat's not "brining up what happened in "Too young"And none of that establish a contradiction with her dating Marcie later on.
Did anyone actually watch Side Quests?PB is constantly miserable. All she ever does is be grumpy and annoyed and berate and lecture finn for not doing a good enough job. They go out of their way to remove any hint of a bond.The only episode she’s written as happy is ‘Game Night’ where only Marceline Rainicorn and LSP hang out with her, and Finn doesn’t.
>>155747875It does contradict what you said when you're pretending her change in forms wasn't superficial. Despite her keeping all her me like rudeus from jobless reincarnation. She's a piece of gum that was only larping as a child. It was superficial, and her acting more like that later on is seen as her improving as a character if anything despite the form not changing again. So they arbitrarily made her character less developed and shitty for what purpose exactly besides poorly done romance drama and ignoring their own rules?
Finn was a Boy. PB was a very old immortal Adult. Them being together was unrealistic, particularly since at the time we didn't know she was ancient and immortal, especially sine she said she wanted to live forever in an episode.
>>155747962It is bringing up what happened in too young. The lesson she's trying to tell finn again is one she already said and showed him in too young. In too young she says she wants to be with him but can't because of the kingdom needing to be watched over and then she tells him again in burning low he can't be with someone because responsibility demands sacrifice. Pay attention next time.
>>155747995>It does contradict what you said when you're pretending her change in forms wasn't superficial.It wasn't superficial. None of what you have mentioned on slow burning contradict that.>She's a piece of gum that was only larping as a childYou have been unable to demonstrate that and nothing that happen in slow burning shows otherwise.
>>155748042>It is bringing up what happened in too young.Doesn't contradict what I said.And nothing you are saying is in contradiction with her dating Marceline later on.
What does princess bubblegum and marceline actually bring to the AI IP in terms of story or even marketability? Yes the sub single digit percent of humanity that are queers like them and autistic wierdo's.But no one else does and I can't think of a single solitary story that anyone likes where they star or are a major part of the story. Let's just be honest. This is the corpse of a once popular with young boys teens and stoners cartoon that was infected by queer coastal parasites and is being skin suited around in a desperate attempt to make more money off of it. It's a dead IP that is still kept around because queers and creepy middle aged women are still in power. That's litterally all. It's pathetic.
>>155747974Look, she just has her period
>>155748081>What does princess bubblegum and marceline actually bring to the AI IP in terms of story or even marketability?About the same thing as anything else in the show.
does anyone have a list of episodes that aren't too childish
>>155748020The whole show is unrealistic but they also choose to include some of the most unnecessary parts of real life. I would prefer the type of unrealistic that doesn't hold back character development for shitty romance drama while larping as some valuable lesson on life. The hero and princess being happy together and using their love to fight the universe ending threat is better than the bitter hypocrite scissor sisters plus their miserable fans talking down to others as a form of entertainment.
>>155748083I wonder how it tastes like.
>>155748050The change in form was superficial because she kept her memories. Nothing you say defends the contradiction in how bubbline was treated versus the finn and pb relationship.>>155748068You're the worst type of retard fanboy. Can't pay attention to what you're watching or defending.
>>155748107>than the bitter hypocrite scissor sistersYou have been unable to establish anything wrong with that relationship.
>>155748131>The change in form was superficialHer whole behaviour change drasticly to someone way more immature, anon.>Can't pay attention to what you're watching or defending.I do pay attention, actually and that's what is pissing you off.
>>155748093Nah
>>155748132Its existence
>>155748176That's not what establish something as wrong.
>>155748132I did establish what was wrong with the relationship, you keep ignoring it because it's inconvenient. Since the reasons given for finn and pb not being allowed to be together involved immaturity (since pb can change forms for the "age" issue), moving on from bad relationships being healthy or better for a character, and pb's responsibility to the kingdom it doesn't make sense to allow marceline back in for bubbline sake despite those things being an issue or even worse with her. Watch your stupid ass still say this doesn't mean anything though. Useless bot creature.
>>155736671Draw Finn hugging Princess Bubblegum and then Bubblegum grabbing Finn's ass
>>155748197>I did establish what was wrong with the relationshipYou failed to do so. Not a single of your point has hold.>Since the reasons given for finn and pb not being allowed to be together involved immaturityYou have yet to prove that false.> moving on from bad relationships being healthyYou failed to establish that the relationship of PB and Marcie in the later season of AT was unhealthy.>and pb's responsibility to the kingdomYou failed to establish PB's responsibility make it incompatible with having a relationship.You got nothing.
>>155748155Her behavior was just what was portrayed as character development in things like pajama wars since it was her actually relaxing for once just in a more childish way. She just switched to being immature in a worse way while going back to her "adult" form anyway. Failing to notice the obvious and mocking your suffering friend because you're busy isn't mature it's evil and retarded. Compared to that pb larping as a kid is more mature ironically. You don't actually pay attention, you're as pretentious as the people making this show.
>>155743583Throwing blood soaked tampons at white guys is considered "war" now?
>>155748247I didn't fail anything, you failed to be honest about basic events in the show and to actually logically counter what I'm saying. The show shows and tells you outright pb's responsibility kept her from having a relationship and then later her acting as she did in too young (more relaxed and less focused on the candy people) was actually portrayed as a sign of her improving as a character anyway.
>>155748269>She just switched to being immature in a worse way while going back to her "adult" form anywayShe didn't switch to being immature once she was old again, anon. You are making things up again.>Failing to notice the obvious and mocking your sufferingIf you are talking about at she said right after being old again, Pajama wars happened way after that.You don't actually pay attention.
>>155748327>nd then later her acting as she did in too young (more relaxed and less focused on the candy people) was actually portrayed as a sign of her improving as a character anyway.So, you agree there is no contradiction with PB dating Marcie at this point?
>>155748334>She didn't switch to being immature once she was old again, anonOnce she switched to the older form she was ignoring basic reality and mocking her suffering friend which isn't a sign of maturity or something she did in her younger form. So in the show ironically she DID get more immature when she switched back retard. Unless you want to argue ignoring your actual surroundings and kicking your friend while he's down is a sign of maturity. You're definitely dumb enough to.
>>155748361Marceline is more immature than young Finn ever was
>>155748361There's a contradiction because she's with marceline despite the show stressing moving on from past unhealthy relationships. If finn and pb getting back together is portrayed as unhealthy or not possible then the reasoning for it is even more true for the bubbline relationship.
i don't care for finn or marceline I justl ike PB.
>>155748405>Once she switched to the older form she was ignoring basic realityNot really. She remained one of the mosre grounded character throughout the show.>>155748405At the start of the show? Maybe. At the end of it, she is clearly more mature than Finn.>>155748432>despite the show stressing moving on from past unhealthy relationshipsBoth Marcie and PB matured before being back together. There relationship then isn't the same as the one they once were in. There is no contradiction, there.
>>155748495Yeesh
>>155748511>Not really. She remained one of the mosre grounded character throughout the show.Bonnie has her head up her ass, she’s not grounded>At the start of the show? Maybe. At the end of it, she is clearly more mature than Finn.All wrong
>>155748539>Bonnie has her head up her ass, she’s not groundedShe is basically the only adult in the room.>All wrongHow so?
>>155748511>Both Marcie and PB matured before being back togetherPeople usually mature with time, that's irrelevant here. Finn improved and still didn't get back with pb or fp. So bubbline getting back together despite the reasoning or lessons described as necessary for improving as a person is just pretentious hypocrite garbage. There is obvious contradiction here but you're a worthless bubbline fanboy who doesn't want to face it.
>>155748552Yeah, sure
>>155748578>People usually mature with time, that's irrelevant here. Finn improved and still didn't get back with pb or fp.That thing can sometimes workout and sometimes not is not a contradiction, anon.>>155748615Well yes.
>>155748552>She is basically the only adult in the room.Except when she's mocking her suffering friend despite going back into her more supposedly "mature" form. Real adult activities there. How many kids do you do that to to teach them true maturity cunt? Go on.
>>155748659No
>>155748667>Except when she's mocking her suffering friend despiteNo matter how many time you try to pretend not to read it, it will not chang e that she is just reacting like an 18 year old being confessed to by a barely teenager.This will never be cruel nor mocking no matter how many time you'll keep pretending it is and will always be contradicted with the many times she showed care and affection for Finn afterwards.
>>155748711
>>155748687How so?
>>155748659It's not just that "sometimes things work out" it's clearly telling one group to hurry up and move on when dealing with a relatively pleasant important relationship, then telling another group they're heckin valid and beautiful for getting back together despite being much more unhealthy with less excuse. This is bias and hypocrisy not coincidence or some valuable lesson. Quit trying you fake ass cunt fanboy.
>>155747974>PB is constantly miserableTbf even if many did watch SQ they won't care that much, it's way too late to the party to show she's not the writers' special pet in many people's views.
>>155748711No matter how many times you cope, on no planet outside maybe bizarro world is someone going from relaxing and being honest to lying to and mocking a good friend a sign of improved maturity just because the form changed. You're dumb as all fuck. In the end of too young pb is mocking finn and insisting time passed when it didn't. She's laughing in his face literally waving him off calling him silly and saying he needs to move on from something that happened a few seconds ago.
The women is this series suck ass
Bubbline faggot literally doesn't know what simple words like mocking or maturity really means but still wants to try defending their ship or talking down to ANYONE ELSE. This is the same shit over and over and over again with bubbline fans. Doesn't matter if you spot the stupid bitches here, on Instagram or tiktok. Every fucking time. Miserable fucking dumb arrogant cunts. Know your place. Want to talk about others being weird or being insufferable then argue for hundreds of posts because you don't know what maturity or mocking means. Worthless pieces of shit.
>>155747875>That's not what happened at allShow ended with Finn and Bubblegum together. Bitch comes in as show runner and suddenly they're no longer together again and then never reunite. So this wasn't even a retarded attempt to keep the status quo, she wanted Bubblegum free for her lesbian ship and didn't give a flying fuck about the main character or the show's story.
>>155749242She was there even before all of that
>>155749242>>155749269Mix of her involvement and other yurifaggots, trying not to offend worthless groups that masturbate to worse daily, and wanting to force drama for that sweet temporary boost in viewers you saw in burning low. Multiple potential reasons for the horse shit and none of it very good.
>>155746568>she didn't cheat, she kissed someone who was already with someone elsenta, but that's cheating regardless because isn't like Fionna was forced at gunpoint lmaoshe's a cheater on top of being an ugly fatso
>>155749441>ugly fatsoShe is none of that, just a spoiled cunt
>>155748725No argument.>>155748730>" it's clearly telling one group to hurry up and move on when dealing with a relatively pleasant important relationshipYou failed to establish this establish any hurry up, especially as the PB finn relationship was hanging over for two seasons.>then telling another group they're heckin valid and beautiful for getting back together despite being much more unhealthyYou have failed to establish it was unhealthy in the first place.>>155748807>to lying to and mocking a good friendThere was no lie and it wasn't mocking.>>155749242>Bitch comes in as show runner and suddenly they're no longer together again1. She was there before that and at no point is there any indication this was forced on Pen.
>>155749460She has Cankles dude. She’s fat. And not in a cute way in the ugly pig at the office way
>>155749441>nta, but that's cheating regardlessThat's not how it work. To cheat, you have to be with someone else in the first place. That' wasn't the case for Fionna. She wasn't the one who cheated, she was the "other girl".Again, not defending her, just being factual.
>>155749558I thought you meant FP but my point still stands
>>155749545>You failed to establish this establish any hurry upThe end of too young has pb mocking finn and telling him to hurry up and get over what happened between them. You failed to pay attention. You failed at life.>There was no lie and it wasn't mockingThere was a lie because no time actually passed like she said. Laughing at someone's suffering and calling it silly based on time that didn't pass is mocking and again hypocritical besides that considering her situation with marceline.
>>155749577She’s a homewrecker, not a cheater.
>>155749761>The end of too young has pb mocking finnYou have yet to establish this is mocking in the first place. You posting a definition of that doens't change this is simply someone turining down someone else. This isn't mocking.>There was a lie because no time actually passedThat's not a lie, anon, you have yet to establish she wasn't sincere.
>>155749783That's the word I was looking for.
>>155749810Saying he's silly for still caring about something that just happened is ridicule so it counts as mocking brainlet.>That's not a lieWell it's obviously not true and you have yet to establish finn actually aging 5 years by the end of too young like pb says he did.
>>155749930>Saying he's silly for still caring about something that just happened is ridiculeThe situation is ridicule, but PB is sincere. A ridicule situation doesn't systematically means someone is ridiculing someone else.
>>155749954The situation involves pb sincerely ridiculing him for still caring about something important to him, based on time you and her would repeatedly fail to establish actually passed for finn as she said it did.
Even for 40 year olds in real life 5 years passing can feel like nothing. This bitch pb is nearing a thousand years old. So ignoring that she should easily figure out general time didn't pass and even if you're being generous here 5 years still might as well be yesterday for someone like her. What happened with marceline was even longer ago and she's still shown stuck with it but she still expects finn to hurry up and get over her?This counts as being more mature to you? That doesn't make any actual sense.
>>155749978>The situation involves pb sincerely ridiculingIf she is sincere, she really means what she says and her aim isn't to ridicule Finn.This is further confirmed by how much she care and show affection to Finns afterwards.
>>155750157>Even for 40 year olds in real life 5 years passing can feel like nothing. This bitch pb is nearing a thousand years old. So ignoring that she should easily figure out general time didn't pass and even if you're being generous here 5 years still might as well be yesterday for someone like her.You do understand that this isn't about real time but the actual age of her body, right?
>>155750169Her aim was clearly to make fun of finn for being attached to something she's gaslighting him into believing happened 5 years ago in his time. That's why she's laughing at him, waving him off, calling him silly and saying he needs to move on already. She showed more care for finn and awareness for her surroundings in her childlike form. So again she was ironically more mature while larping as a child.
>>155731360It's to remind you that PB doesn't like him, has never liked him, and will never like him so you seethe for another decade
>>155731360Isn't that the point? The whole nature of their relationship is that Finn is crushing on her but she literally never reciprocates, and the fact that he's been wasting his life trying to get a girl that was never into him doesn't become apparent until he's much older.Everyone calls it a "humiliation ritual", but Finn was the only one humiliating himself. The whole dynamic is basically a parable that shows you're not entitled to someone's love, no matter how much you want it. Not surprised this would trigger the fuck out of a bunch of manchildren who do nothing but yearn, yet cannot realize why they are still alone.
>>155742961>"O-okay fine, y-you guys won, but let me tell you why you're still L-LOSERS!"cope
>>155750189You do understand her body or perception of time doesn't justify insisting the same time passed for finn right? You understand why someone who's almost a thousand years old treating 5 years like 2 thousand years is stupid right? Oh wait you're a bubbline fan.
>>155750220Ok, drama queen
>>155731360I'm gonna leave this here without context because it's obvious none of you faggots in this thread have watched the show
>>155750251>o-ok I won but also pb and marceline are strictly gay and waited for each other and she never really liked finn and-Cope
>>155750219>Her aim was clearly to make fun of finnYou have failed to establish that.>>155750252>You do understand her body or perception of time doesn't justify insisting the same time passed for finn right?It could mean this is how she perceive it.
>>155750223Everything had worked fine and they had to make pb act ooc retarded and cruel to break her and finn up. There's no lesson there besides getting better writers for the hit shows you're putting money into.
>>155750287>but also pb and marceline are strictly gayNobody here is arguing that and most of the fandom consider them bi.>and she never really liked finnNon one is denying her feelings were sincere when she was 12.
>>155750315>and they had to make pb act ooc retarded and cruel to break her and finn up.you have failed to establish that in the first place.
>>155750301To make fun of means to laugh at someone in an unkind way or to make them look ridiculous. She literally laughs in his face and calls him silly for still caring about what just happened for him.>It could mean this is how she perceive itYour perception doesn't matter enough to try and demand someone act as if 5 years passed for them when it was more like 5 minutes.
>>155750223You'd be correct if the show didn't shill their relationship in first seasons like in that episode where she turned 13 or the magic contest episode. I don't even like the pairing, I actually really hate PB, but saying that it was always a parable that shows you're not entitled to someone's love and that you're a manchild for pointing shows more that you're pretentious asshole
>>155750270Let me provide the context for you:This is from Curse of the Unread. An episode where Finn and Jake get pulled inside a book and they’re made fun of for wanting a romance between Finn and PB and calling Finn cringy.This is an illusion Finn has.
>>155750371>To make fun of means to laugh at someone in an unkind way or to make them look ridiculousYou have failed to establish this was the case> She literally laughs in his face and calls him silly for still caring about what just happened for him.Not what happened.>Your perception doesn't matter enough to try and demand someone act as if 5 yearsShe doesn't demand anything. She is telling Finn how she perceive thing herself.
>>155750418>if the show didn't shill their relationship in first seasonsOkay, now that's a stupid complain. The show explore first crushes and first relationships, of course there will be stuff like this.
>>155750330>Nobody here is arguing thatBubbline fans continue to do so on various platforms including here and on Instagram which I pointed out with this screenshot >>155746091You're not every bubbline fan but you're also not much better than the rest. Plenty of people deny her actually liking finn and here you even try to limit it to her physical age. She became 12 the same way rudeus from jobless reincarnation became 12, it's a superficial body change. She acts even more immature after changing into her more adult body than she did in her childlike one. Even before too young she hugs finn just fine but then by the end of the episode refuses to so she can mock him for not acting like 5 years passed.
>>155742961The whole point of this scene was to permanently sink the FinnxFP ship and to gather everyone who loves Finn together even if he didn't eturn the sentiment. Finn's arc is about how many love him amd would be devastated of he died. PB didn't participate because she doesn't believe the whole thing would work in the first place, and Marceline didn't participate because she and Finn never had any romantic feelings for each other.PB only let it happen because she was running out of ideas and to stop the other princesses from wreaking havoc in her castle and interrupting her treatment of Finn.
>>155750350Laughing in finns face and calling him silly for caring about a relationship she pretends happened 5 years ago is mocking and cruel. You just don't have the iq to understand simple words.
>>155750468>Bubbline fans continue to do soNot exactly, most consider them bi.>You're not every bubbline fanBut you shouldn't cherrypick either.
>>155750499>Laughing in finns faceLaughing at a situation isn't the same as laughing at someone's face.I don't know you, but I am ready to bet your life would largely improve if you ceased to take anything you can as a personal attack.
>>155750475If PB were desperate and running out of options and would let others do it in hopes of anything, she would do it herself.The intent is obvious to anyone not willingly blind.
>>155750566>she would do it herself.Magic curing kisses require that you believe in it.
>>155750439I didn't fail to establish anything, you just don't know what mocking means because you're too stupid to be here.>>155750475Finn x fp was already thoroughly sunk and pb admitted to thinking anything was worth trying. It doesn't make sense to let self interested princesses who finn never felt anything for to feel him up but not try kissing him yourself. Especially when the love you had for each other was enough to resist the lich's magic and the season revealed finn was suicidal over not feeling enough love from those around him compared to his dead brother. Pb was willing to try anything for finn except what made more sense to at least attempt.
>>155750595If she’s letting others do it out of desperation, then she’d try it too.They just didn’t want to bring up that they had a thing.
>>155750459>of course there will be stuff like thisYou say this as if the show planned like this from the start which we both know it's not case, mind you, I'm not disagreeing that this how dynamic turned l later on, but saying it was always planned like this is very disingenuous
>>155750526She's specifically hypocritically laughing at him still caring about something important and outright insulting him over it by calling him silly. I don't know you and I'm glad. I can't imagine the misery you cause for the creatures living around you with your gaslighting and failure to understand simple words. It's never a big deal until it threatens your precious lesbian self inserts.
>>155743583Who the fuck wants the show when the last season of AT was about them already.
>>155749269>>155749545>she was there earlierAre you retarded? How does one exclude the other? While Pen was there, he was telling his story and had the say, when he left, those egoistic assholes changed everything from characters to story focus as it suited them. Post-Pen AT is literally tumblr slashfiction.
>>155750597>you just don't know what mocking meansIT doesn't mean "laughing at something you find is funny", anon. You couldn't demonstrate it was anything else than that.Furthermore, you hand yourself at this moment alone as a way to showcase PB changed after season 2, which is a complete disregard for all the care and affection she showed to Finn afterwards.>>155750609>If she’s letting others do it out of desperationWhat matter is that the one who kiss believe it. (it actually seems to have worked)>>155750639>You say this as if the show planned like thisThe show didn't plan for mostly anything but it was always meant to be a coming out of age story. The second season already included a Birthday for Finn.>>155750646>She's specifically hypocritically laughing at himYou have yet to establish it is the case.
>>155744334Faggot lol
>>155750713Your fault for saying it like this>>155749242>Bitch comes in as show runner and suddenly they're no longer togetherAnyway. There is nothing indicating this direction was forced on Pen.
>>155750726Not me
>>155750475Finn x fp only exists because of finn x pb. Immediately after breaking up with this dumpster fire he's trying to reconnect with pb. She's a rebound relationship completely based on the love finn was hypocritically cut off from having with pb, yet you let taken fp kiss him however many years later and not pb? Makes no fucking sense.
>>155750717The it that she finds funny and laughs at is his feelings and wanting any more physical contact with her based on time that didn't pass, and even if said time actually passed 5 years is nothing to someone that old. When finn really needed care she failed him in too young and especially in burning low because somehow it was impossible for her to notice 5 years didn't actually pass in the world. It's nonsense writing and you only keep defending it because you're a retarded fanboy.
>>155732125>more Shermy and BethWhy? They are awful
>>155750825>The it that she finds funny and laughs at is his feelingsYou have yet to demonstrate that. She could just be laughing at the notion that she might still feel the same as when she was 13.
>>155750717>>155750825Making fun of someone is literally laughing at and being unkind to them or not considering their feelings. Laughing at finns suffering and dismissing his feelings as silly and unimportant is extremely unkind. You have got to be the DUMBEST bubbline faggot around.
>>155750432Haha, Finn's such a loser for wanting love.
>>155750883I like them.
>>155750947The end of too young shows her specifically laughing at him wanting a hug from her because she thinks their relationship happened 5 years ago and he should have got over it already. Retard fanboy.
>>155750747You dumb fucker, because he took the money and left. 100% he also signed something that stops him from talking shit about the new show direction. He told his story, but the suits wanted the show to continue because it was making cash, so he handed it over to other writers who didn't give the slightest fuck about what Penn wanted the show to be.But that's beside the point, I don't give a fuck about Penn, I give a fuck about his story and characters that were ruined because he was no longer there to keep everything on track. And Sugar is a huge hypocrite too, because she fired Zuke's ass for just attempting to do what Sugar did while working on AT. Not that Sugar is the only piece of shit who ruined the show, there were lots of other assholes who literally hated Finn and wanted him to fail and suffer.
>>155750949>>155750979>The end of too young shows her specifically laughing at himThat's the thing, though. It isn't. And you have yet to demosntrate otherwise AND reconciel that with all the affection and care she will keep giving Finn afterwards.It's not even clear what you are trying to establish with that.>>155750981>You dumb fucker, because he took the money and left.HE never left. Pen remained part of the team till the end and is notable for voicing LSP.
>>155750981>I give a fuck about his story and characters that were ruinedYou have failed to establish it was ruined in the first place.
>>155750981>because she fired Zuke's ass for just attempting to do what Sugar didPretty sure it's Zuke who left because she couldn't force her idea on the team.
>>155750981Now that you mention her, what happened to zuke after being fired? I think she trooned out but I might be missremembering
>>155751017That's the thing though, it literally is. He asks if she wants to hug and she laughs at him saying that was 5 years ago and he should move on already. She failed to care for finn in the most obvious way. Not even a bit of empathy over her own lingering feelings for marceline. Besides that being so stupid she can't notice time didn't actually pass in general, extremely ooc for the supposed smart character. You are dumb as fuck bubbline faggot.
>>155750969So?
>>155751042You have failed at life and at understanding even what it mean to make fun of someone. You have nothing to talk about you worthless fucking bot.
>>155751087>That's the thing though, it literally is.You have yet to demonstrate that.>she laughs at himYou still haven't established she is laughing at him specifically.>Besides that being so stupid she can't notice time didn't actually pass in generalShe is talking about her own perception.
>you have failed to establish how it was ruinedThe dumb bitch says as pb is written as suddenly so retarded she genuinely doesn't notice time didn't pass despite having servants and tech to help.
>>155751130>and at understanding even what it mean to make fun of someoneI think I have a better grasp than you do. Do you take it personally when you hear a group of women laughing in the vicinity of your ears?
>>155751198>as pb is written as suddenly so retarded she genuinely doesn't notice time didn't passAgain, she is only talking about her own perception of time.Her body is weird, this isn't ooc.
>>155751174I showed it, you don't see it. You have failed to understand simple words. Making fun of is laughing at someone in an unkind way, being unkind is lacking sympathy or care. All those apply to pb laughing at finn for still wanting to connect with her after what should still be a short time to her.
>>155751202If said women outright laugh at me and call me silly for wanting to reconnect with my ex after a breakup that just happened moments ago, which is what pb did, then it WOULD be personal you dumb faggot.
>>155751248>I showed itNope, you showed nothing. You insist she is mocking Finn and completely ignore she could just be laughing at the situation instead of Finn himself.
>>155751017He was no longer making any decisions. He was essentially a guest voice actor. For all intents and purposes, he left.>>155751042If you take an adventure show about a boy hero working towards his happy ending with his princess and make it no longer about adventure, make the boy hero a loser and make the princess gay, you've ruined it objectively.>>155751065>>155751066No idea, my point was that Sugar suddenly cares about NOT randomly making characters gay when its HER characters that she didn't intend to be gay.
>>155751223She's not only talking about her own perception because she's laughing at finn as if he should have the same perception and pretend 5 years passed for him. >>155751288I showed and explained plenty. You're too retarded to understand what mocking or being unkind is
>>155751293>He was no longer making any decisionsHE willingly let other showrunners take charge as this position was too stressful. It means in no way PB&Marcie was forced on him.> about a boy hero working towards his happy ending with his princessThe show never promised he would ends up with PB.> my point was that Sugar suddenly cares about NOT randomly making characters gay when its HER charactersHer having an idea of directions for a specific characters does in no way make her an hypocrite, especially as nothing indicate she forced anything on AT.
>>155751312>because she's laughing at finnYou have yet to establish she is laughing AT finn in the first place.>I showed and explained plentySaying "it is because I say it is" isn't showing nor explaining".
>>155751288>oh sorry, I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing at the absurd notion that you though I give a shit about you romanticallyHow the fuck is that not mocking?
Imagine if the showrunners ended the show with everyone being killed all at once and with no way of return, wouldn’t that be a true subversion of expectations?
>>155751371She is laughing at finn and calling him silly for still wanting connection with her after 5 years that didn't actually pass. They already established it.
>>155751386>that you though I give a shitThis isn't about that either, anon.>>155751427>She is laughing at finnYou have yet to demonstrate she is laughing AT him.She is explaining the state of HER OWN feelings.
>>155751457You have failed to comprehend she's laughing specifically in response to him wanting a hug from her while calling him silly and saying he should move on already. She's projecting her own supposed perception of time onto finn to justify telling him to move on quicker. Despite her having eyes to observe her surroundings, servants, tech etc. to show her otherwise.
>>155751353>never forcedAre you literally retarded? When a show runner steps back and relinquishes control of the show, he no longer has a say. There was no "forcing" because no on needed to, they already had the power to do whatever they wanted. We can only make an extremely educated guess that the guy who made the show about adventure, made Finn a successful and loved hero, and made him and PB an item wouldn't want this all to be thrown in the trash.>never promisedPenn's story literally ends on this. And you need to be a drooling retard to think a show about a hero's adventure wouldn't intend to end with the boy beating the bad guy and being with the princess.>>155751353>guy makes boy and girl who he pines for the whole show end up together>her first act is to break them up to later make her gay for another characterIf this isn't disrespecting a creator's direction for a character, I don't know what is. And she doesn't even have a "progressive political agenda" excuse because she shut that shit down when it happened in her own show. Holy shit you must be dumb to unironically defend her on this.
>>155751505>she's laughing specifically in response to him wanting a hugShe is laughing at the idea she would still feel the same way as for when she was 13.Telling him to move on when she no longer reciprocate is the best thing to do, anon.>She's projecting her own supposed perception of timeShe is not projecting she is expressing her own perception of time.
>>155751536>When a show runner steps back and relinquishes control of the show, he no longer has a say.Nothing forbid it. Again, you have nothing indicating it was forced on Pen.>>guy makes boy and girl who he pines for the whole show end up togetherYou don't know if it was his plan. Also, even if there was a change of plan, it doesn't mean it was forced to him anyway either.
>>155751457>>155751505She's an asshole regardless. If your childhood GF/BF with whom you parted on amicable terms asks for a comforting hug, you don't laugh in their face.
>>155751543>She is laughing at the idea she would still feel the same way as for when she was 13Despite it only being 5 years ago while she's near a thousand and has lingering feelings for marceline toxic ass who was from much longer ago? You're still going to brush him off as silly and and tell him to hurry up and move on without seeing any hypocrisy in that? That's not maturity BTW. She is projecting time onto him because she says the reason he should move on is it's already been 5 years passed.
>>155751583>If your childhood GF/BF with whom you parted on amicable terms asks for a comforting hug, you don't laugh in their face.You don't lead them on either if you no longer reciprocate and the request is clearly a romantic hug.And your rant keep disregarding all the care and affection she kept giving Finn afterwards.Your obsession about this one scene prevent you from any objectivity.
>>155751616>Despite it only being 5 years ago while she's near a thousandAgain her perception of age doesn't work like that.
>>155746827And no one will watch it because of dyke fatigue. And you fuckers wondered why you lost to the Orange Man. You faggots never learn.
>>155751642She kisses him after this in wizard battle anyway despite him not being a wizard and cheating. So much for boundaries. You're not being objective. It doesn't make sense for pb to either not notice general time has passed or insist finn move on faster based on her own warped perception of time.
>>155751616>BTW. She is projecting time onto himActually not. Finn basically ask her in not so subtle way if she still love him and she answer she no longer feel that way.There is no projecting, there is her telling him she doesn't feel love anymore.
>>155751678>And no one will watch it because of dyke fatigueKeep telling yourslef that.
>>155751661Doesn't work like what retard? She acted like 5 years was a lot for someone like her or it feeling like 5 years for her individually should somehow mean finn moves on faster.
>>155751685>She kisses him after this in wizard battle anyway despite him not being a wizard and cheating. So much for boundariesWhat boundaries was disrespected.>You're not being objective.You are the one who fail at objectivity You outright mention an episode where she still show affection doe Finn which invalidate your whole complain.
>>155751575>you have nothing indicating it was forcedFirst of all, you need to be literally retarded to not see it was not what he intended at all. His last episode was what he intended. But he stepped back, and the show went on, you don't get to have a say about the show after you literally gave up all power to do so. If he ran into the office screaming about how this is bullshit, no one would have been obligated to listen to him. And even if they did, then he would have needed to stay and direct them in the direction he wanted and he literally left because he no longer wanted to do that. Second, why are you even fixated on it being forced? The issue is that Penn's show under Penn was good and then it went in a completely different shitty direction when he no longer called the shots.
>>155751715>She acted like 5 years was a lot for someone like herShe acted like growing from 13 to 18 was a lot for her, yes. How old her body is is how she perceive the passage of time. What is the problem, here?
>>155751730>First of all, you need to be literally retarded to not see it was not what he intended at all.There was no intention of a final outcome to begin with, anon. This invalidate your whole complain.
>>155751730>you don't get to have a say about the show after you literally gave up all power to do soNoting forbid it, anon. And Nothing indicate he wasn't listened to after he was no longer the showrunner.
>>155751727>What boundaries was disrespectedNo hugging but kissing on the mouth is fine retard?>You are the one who fail at objectivity You outright mention an episode where she still show affection doeLaughing at someone for still having feelings based on your own warped time perception isn't showing affection. It's hypocritical, cruel immature etc. If she was really so much more mature she could have actually explained things to him and been consistent with the boundaries she suddenly put up.
>>155751678Progressives are so fucking dumb. It took so long for everyone to grow to love lesbians through fanservice in media and porn. And then they threw it all away by portraying them realistically. Everyone would have loved post-Penn AT if BG and Marceline lezzed out while Finn was away adventuring and then gave him double blowjobs when he was home.
>>155751751She acted like 5 years passing for her specifically should mean finn moves on faster, how is that objective you stupid faggot?
hijacking this thread to shamelessly ask for a hit to download the complete series.... been trying to legally acquire it, but as a euro cuck, it's quite hard to come by. Any pointers?
>>155751824Not even F&C did stuff like that
>>155751808>No hugging but kissing on the mouth is fine retard?You are still not telling me how Finn's boundaries weren't respected in Wizard Battle.>Laughing at someoneAgain, first demosntrate he was laughing AT him, instead of at the suggestion.>>155751831>She acted like 5 years passing for her specifically should mean finn moves on fasterShe informed Finn how SHE was feeling and then told him he should move on too.
>>155751766What the fuck are you talking about? Penn literally showed us what he intended to happen in the last episode before he left.>>155751788>a useless action is allowedWhat is your point?>nothing indicatedHoly fucking shit, can you not read? Do you not have a functioning brain? Everything instantly changed. Why the fuck would he want the show to be completely different from what it was under him? Why would he even try to prevent it if he not only didn't have the power to do so, but it was also practically useless because apparently the only person on the crew who wanted or cared about keeping the show on his track was him? Why is your retarded ass fixated on this? If Penn made an announcement that he wanted Finn to be a creepy cuck to a pair of lesbians from day one, I still wouldn't like it, because I don't give a shit about what Penn likes, I give a shit about what I like. And we liked the same things while he was at the helm.
>>155751905Kissing finn after denying him the simple affection of a hug is sending mixed signals to him. She's laughing at finn because she's calling him silly and telling him to move on faster.>She informed Finn how SHE was feeling and then told him he should move on tooHow SHE was feeling doesn't decide how fast someone moves on and is hypocritical when SHE is still stuck thinking about a more toxic and older relationship you dumb faggot.
>>155751846Not overtly, obviously.>Finn returns from adventure>sees PB and Marcy cuddling on the couch>they're happy to see him and ask him to join them>they pull him down to the couch between them and are now cuddling him
>>155751957>Penn literally showed us what he intended to happen in the last episode before he left.Nope.Becasue the guy stayed up until the end of episode 10. Fuck, he is even one of the writer of Too Young, moron.https://superlogos.fandom.com/wiki/Adventure_Time:_Too_Young_Credits_(2011)He also remained an executive producer for the whole show.
Question for Finncels, why should Finn get with Bubblegum? Why is it important for you that he gets with her specifically? Is it because do you feel you relate so hard to Finn that him fumbling Bubblegum is reinforcing the idea that everything you believed is a lie and that it's telling you you don't deserve love? With how much you guys hate dykes and have "dyke fatigue" and want to kill all faggots, I think you're just making yourselves more miserable by projecting into an enemy instead of finding ways to find love. Get on dating sites, go to a bar, get in shape, have a more bright outlook on life and get out of this miserable pit.I'm not even saying this to defend AT because I think the show is way beyond what I wanted it to be, but I'm not blaming the gays because that sounds miserable.Do better
>>155735110>It wasn't forced.Get a load of this retard.
>>155751980>after denying him the simple affection of a hugIt was not just a simple hug he asked, but a romantic one. Get your facts straight.Also, stop claiming inconstancy when Penn himself was one of the writer of this episode.
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>>155752030>Finncels Your trick is old
>>155752030Why should bubbline get back together if the message for why finn couldn't get back with pb is you should just move on from unhealthy relationships to better ones? Why not let marceline get back with ash at that point? People change right? Lol.
>>155752075Gtfo
>>155752040Get a load of >>155752020https://adventuretime.fandom.com/wiki/Pendleton_WardStory by Pendleton Ward"The Enchiridion""It Came from the Nightosphere""The Eyes""Loyalty to the King""Blood Under the Skin""Storytelling""Slow Love""Power Animal""Crystals Have Power""The Other Tarts""To Cut a Woman's Hair""The Chamber of Frozen Blades""Her Parents""The Pods""The Silent King""The Real You""Guardians of Sunshine""Death in Bloom""Susan Strong""Mystery Train""Go With Me""Belly of the Beast""The Limit""Video Makers""Mortal Folly""Mortal Recoil""Heat Signature""Conquest of Cuteness""Morituri Te Salutamus""Memory of a Memory""Hitman""Too Young""The Monster""Still""Wizard Battle""Fionna and Cake""What Was Missing""Apple Thief""The Creeps""From Bad to Worse""Beautopia""No One Can Hear You""Jake vs. Me-Mow""Thank You""The New Frontier""Holly Jolly Secrets Part I""Holly Jolly Secrets Part II""Marceline's Closet""Paper Pete""Another Way""Ghost Princess""Dad's Dungeon""Incendium""Hot to the Touch""Five Short Graybles""Web Weirdos""Dream of Love""Return to the Nightosphere""Daddy's Little Monster""In Your Footsteps""Hug Wolf""Princess Monster Wife""Goliad""Beyond this Earthly Realm""Gotcha!""Princess Cookie""Card Wars""Sons of Mars""Burning Low""BMO Noire""King Worm""Lady & Peebles"
PB straight up cannot reciprocate any of Young Finn's advances anymore without looking like a straight up turbo mega pedophile so they just have to frame it as Finn having a lot of puppy love and being overly clingy. She already straight up groomed him into being her personal child soldier so they just have to soften it with goofy framing like the early seasons of the original series but the cat is already out of the bag in that regard.
>>155752020Ar you autistic? Because you have to be. Do you know how animation works? A show runner burning out doesn't mean the show is allowed to end. Money changed hands. Money is still being made. Someone new is found to run the show. This new person or people are now in charge and take the show in their direction. The former show runner is usually contractually obligated to make the transition as smooth as possible, even if he hates the new direction.
>>155752052A kiss on the mouth is more romantic than a hug retard and he didn't even earn it. Get your heckin facts straight. Also, stop messaging me when you can't understand simple words despite having google gpt etc.
>>155752080I'm not playing tricks, I'm using a term to call specific people out in this thread so I can ask them a question>>155752052What's the difference between a romantic hug and a regular hug? Might as well say a girl asked her BF to walk her home "gently" when she said to be gentle with her.>>155752075AI pic aside, he's right? I don't mean bend over to dykes and faggot out or something, I mean stop being miserable and companionship. Not every woman is a dyke
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>>155752148"The Tower""Sad Face""Breezy""Furniture & Meat""The Prince Who Wanted Everything""Something Big""Little Brother""Ocarina""Thanks for the Crabapples, Giuseppe!""Princess Day""Joshua and Margaret Investigations""Ghost Fly""Everything's Jake""Is That You?""Jake the Brick""Dentist""The Cooler""The Pajama War""Astral Plane""Gold Stars""The Visitor""The Mountain""Dark Purple""The Diary""Walnuts & Rain""Friends Forever""Jermaine""Chips and Ice Cream""Graybles 1000+""Hoots""You Forgot Your Floaties""Be Sweet""Orgalorg""On the Lam""Hot Diggity Doom""The Comet""Bonnie and Neddy""Varmints""Cherry Cream Soda""Mama Said""Football""Marceline The Vampire Queen""Everything Stays""Vamps About""The Empress Eyes""May I Come In?""Take Her Back""Checkmate""The Dark Cloud""Angel Face""President Porpoise is Missing!""King's Ransom""The Music Hole""Daddy-Daughter Card Wars""High Strangeness""Imaginary Resources""Diamonds and Lemons""Come Along With Me"
>>155752087I have no idea what you're talking about.Also PB is like a zillion years old and Finn was like a kid at the time. Bro he's with Huntress, but what made PB better than her? Because PB is a sexy princess? And princesses have to be saved by the main character because that's how stories worked?
>>155752110PB could hug Finn back in the early seasons.
>>155752126Nothing you are saying indicate Pen was forced. Especially as he continued to be a writer and executive producer for the show.
>>155752110They still have him fuck slime princess as a possible outcome in the newest fionna and cake season. Dick in slimy old goo good but dick in old candy bad? Yeah right they're just too invested in the bubbline dumpster fire. The fact they have a whole spinoff dedicated to it despite rushing finns thing with huntress shows that pretty clearly. They're deranged.
>>155752169>Bro he's with Huntress, but what made PB better than her?Not being in a “Situationship” for 12 years because you’re a, Le, Exceptional Beast
>>155752087>if the message for why finn couldn't get back with pb is you should just move on from unhealthy relationships to better ones?The reason Finn could not get back with PB is because PB no longer felt that way for Finn.There is no contradiction, there.>>155752132>What's the difference between a romantic hug and a regular hug?The person do it with romantic intend.
>>155752106The link you posted only has him as a writer on 17 episodes. Where did you get the rest?
>>155752207I have no idea what any of that means, I just know PB wasn't the girl for him and that Huntress was because they are together now.I have no idea what exceptional beast is, I just wanna know why PB specifically that you guys want to be with Finn. Why her?
>>155752207You are sad
>>155752218How can one determine the intent of a hug? How can you know for sure what the intent of a hug is? Body language? Tone of voice? Choice of words? That kinda shit makes me anxious that I feel you fuckers are gonna read me wrong just because I do things a certain way.
>>155752207YOu keep posting that again and again, persisitng to ignore that not only the person who said that not changed their opinion about that, but they also ended up doing more Huntress episodes with Finn.You fail to make a point with that.
>>155752223>Where did you get the rest?The list of episodes he was a writer for is actually a scrollable box.
>>155752266>How can one determine the intent of a hug?It's not always possible, but in the case of Finn at the end of Too Young, it was very obvious it was a way for Finn to ask if PB still had romantic feeling for him.
>>155752169>but what made PB better than her?Og PB actually having a personality.Og PB actually having a real dynamic with Finn.Huntress being a blank hollow avatar for catlady writers to act like a stoner quirky chungus woman.Huntress having so little dynamic with Finn that they can only be together onscreen for a total 5 minutes in S2 and already become boring.
>>155752169It's very simple so if you don't understand I don't see why you think you have the ground to talk shit to other fans. Age is irrelevant in stories like these. For all the suffering they had ooc pb put finn through don't you think it's ironic that just one moment with huntress was considered similarly painful to his father betraying and mutilating him with those red unresolved trauma balls? Isn't it ironic finn was talked down to and kept from pb for being too immature yet they have marceline threaten people's lives over a bit of attention and she still gets back with pb? I mean it is but >moar scissor sisters NOW I need more goon sesh material>I need to protect the gay self inserts while malding at the possibility of finn self inserts
>>155752303Well context is important, and I do understand why PB gave him a "friendship" hug rather than a "romantic" hug
>>155752167Written AND Storyboarded by Pendleton WardPrisoners of Love" (with Adam Muto)"The Enchiridion!" (with Adam Muto and Patrick McHale)"My Two Favorite People" (with Kent Osborne)"Freak City" (with Tom Herpich)"Rainy Day Daydream""Dad's Dungeon" (with Adam Muto and Natasha Allegri)"James Baxter the Horse" (with Somvilay Xayaphone)"Bad Timing" (with Kent Osborne)"High Strangeness" (with Sam Alden)"Imaginary Resources" (with Graham Falk)
>>155752190A non-autistic person would get that the show is no longer how the creator wants it to be by the extremely subtle hint of it becoming completely different. And him being involved just means he had a contract. Becoming burned out doesn't release you from contractual obligations. Or maybe he's just a pragmatist and professional and emotionally detached himself from the show that was no longer his to help the people in charge to move in the direction they wanted because he was financially interested in them succeeding despite the show becoming dumb garbage.
>>155752332>and I do understand why PB gave him a "friendship" hug rather than a "romantic" hugWe are tlaking about the end of Too young and PB doesn't give Finn a hug.
>>155752327Nu uh
>>155752351>A non-autistic person would get that the show is no longer how the creator wants itHE was involved with the writing of the show till the end of season 10, moron. >>155752106>>155752148>>155752167>>155752349
>>155752327Even I didn't think OG PB had a chance with Finn because of how much older she is than him, and the only personality I got from PB is that she's a harsh leader with some quirks about herself. I really am missing something here, huh?Also I guess you yourself wanna fuck OG PB? I mean what's stopping you from drawing yumeshipping art of you two together? It's cringe but you don't have to post it, you can jerk off to thinking of hatefucking her or something.>>155752328Age doesn't matter? I get it's a cartoon but what should it matter to you that Finn has to be with PB? Do you feel the way Finn is treated is a mirror of how society treats men like you?I'm not even trying to protect the faggot stuff I just don't want you to not only wallow in hatred but also I don't wanna make shit that will piss you off because I like lesbians, I wanna write lesbians, but I worry you're gonna call me a pedophile for it. Also self insert? What is PB and Marceling a self insert of? The lesbian audience? The writers? Which writers in particular?
>>155752327>Og PB actually having a personality.>Og PB actually having a real dynamic with Finn.So is it the case with Huntress. And PB never ceased to have personality and a real dynamism with Finn.
>>155752218>The reason Finn could not get back with PB is because PB no longer felt that way for FinnThat's not what they say in too young. It's specifically because they arbitrarily bring in lemongrab to force her back into her older form to take responsibility for the kingdom where she ironically regresses as a character by asking finn to do what she fails to with marceline based on obviously wrong or warped time perception.
>>155752349You do know that all you did by posting all that is tell us that you should be on medication, right?
>>155751704This is why I welcome whoever decides to sent you sex deviants back into the camps or mental looney bins. I don't give a shit anymore. All you degens did was piss people off. Trump has already put the ban hammer on troons, & USAID's end marked the end of your little faggot shitshows. Your pride month of buttsex is officially over, mentally ill freak. But go ahead, keep your head in the sand. We're just waiting patiently for gay marriage & gay adoption to be thrown into the trash where it belongs. When that happens, the seething will astronomical, & we will laugh at you the same way we laughed at you in 2016. Biggest mistake the Dems did was siding with you freaks.Also no ones playing along with your gay marriage delusion. Gay marriage will never be a real marriage. We're putting an end to that mindset & nipping that idea in the bud once & for all.
You ever find it weird that Jake advised Finn not to give up on PB at the end of ‘Too Young’? He told him to keep persisting and never give up and then Bubblegum will realise he’s worthy of her.Then Finn just forgets that and doesn’t listen and gives up and settles for compensation.Opposite with Jake’s advice in Flute Spell that Huntress is full of shit acting like she’s too majestic to settle down. Finn doesn’t listen to him and keeps simping without ever pushing the boundaries for 12 years.PB mindbroke him to try too hard with Flame Princess, and Flame Princess mindbroke him to be a spineless feminist with Huntress Wizard.
>>155752419>That's not what they say in too young.She is basically saying the feeling she had when she was 13 are no longer there.How where you not able to understand this?
>>155752429What was her name, anon?
>>155752387>a writer can write whatever they want and take the show in whatever direction they pleaseAnd you call me the moron? A writer writes what they are told in the direction the don't decide.
>>155752397>the only personality I got from PB is that she's a harsh leader with some quirksI think you’re imposing the Later Seasons Dyke PB onto “Bubble Science Keyboard Party and Sleepovers” Bubblegum of S1
>>155752425You have failed to establish how gay stuff is in any way more a problem than straight relationsip.Irrational anger won't help your case, here.
>>155752471I'm just going off of what I remember of PBWhat personality did PB have before dyke?
>>155752415Post Nu-PB’s amazing “personality and real dynamism” with Finn.
>>155752455Again, missing the point, you still haven't shown that anythign that was written was forced on Pen. Especially when he remained as an executive producer all along.
>>155752504Your autism prevents our argument from progressing regardless of the evidence I present.
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>>155752558Based but I wish it also happened to FP
>>155752499She was a lot more like Finn, actually.Shouted catchphrases, threw parties, played videogames with him, and when she did science she was always laughing and giggling and doing it for fun. I’d call her immature.Later Seasons would act like PB would NEVER do anything like that if not for Marceline breaking her uptight shell.
>>155752547It is not my autism. You insist Pen was forced to let Sugar take the rein of the show and had been unable to show any proof of that.Autism or not, anyone should understand that "has the opportunity to" isn't the same as "actually happened".It's an even more incongruous take to have when you insist that a simple writer and storyboarder is able to impose their will on an executive producer.
>>155752397>Age doesn't matter? I get it's a cartoon but what should it matter to you that Finn has to be with PB? Do you feel the way Finn is treated is a mirror of how society treats men like you?Yes age doesn't matter here just like various others laws or norms. Otherwise it would be illegal for finn to do what the show is named after. Why does does any of this matter to you but you think arbitrarily it shouldn't matter to me? I was a fan of the show and then they took the show in a bad direction. To this day they're still adding past mistakes to the newest episodes of the series like the flame princess and dj flame shit. I'm not complaining about lesbians in general, lesbians are among the things I get off to and I've supported irl women deciding to be lesbian instead of getting impregnated by some loser like their parents wanted. It's this specific relationship along with everyone surrounding it that's the problem. The hypocrisy. Trying to limit the possibility of finn and pb's relationship while going ahead and removing those limit for bubbline despite worse past behavior. Then in the newest fionna and cake show showing an alternate universe where finn fucks slime princess anyway but retards still want to argue with me about what's supposedly not possible. It's just stupid and I don't have much respect for the show, it's creators or it's fans atp.
We should have learned our lesson by now
>>155752472>You have failed to establish how gay stuff is in any way more a problem than straight relationsip.It became a problem when you when you globhomo NWO degenerates decided to make an entire month dedicated to it, then spammed flags of mental illness all over media, 3rd places, video games, corporate logos, etc.>Irrational anger won't help your case, here.It actually is helping. It's because of us why you're paying $8-$10/gal at the pump. You fuckers just couldn't leave our video games alone & had to make everything about buttsex. Now you're gonna starve from expensive grocery bills because you expected everyone to go along with your insanity.
>>155752429PB mindbroke finn but that was mindbroke pb who did that to him. The ones in charge just fucked things up and handled the characters poorly.
>>155752636Being gay isn't the problem only how you're gay. Adventure time is obnoxious faggot gay, and it's pushed by straight losers who are virtue signaling and generally fake. That's why bubbline is trash. Nothing wrong with being technically gay if you just fucking act decent.
>>155752592No, it's your autism. It prevents you from understanding why a man who gave up a position no longer has the ability to do things that being in that position allowed him to do. You must think that Penn could walk into the writing room and say "Hey, don't write it like this, write it like I want" and everyone would understand what he means, because they have to, since he burned himself out and can't stay and direct them.
>>155752636>t became a problem when you when you globhomo NWO degenerates decided to make an entire month dedicated to itHow does that pose a problem in any way?>It actually is helping. It's because of us why you're paying $8-$10/gal at the pump.Nice job shooting yourself in the foot, there.> You fuckers just couldn't leave our video games aloneGame dev are allowed to develop their game how they want, anon. You don't get to impose your will just because you don't like something.
>>155752586Characters do change if the show has an ongoing narrative with the status quo changing and evolving. Not saying you have to like what PB became but I think shit happened that caused her to reflect and change.>>155752596If I was arguing with you in bad faith I would've assumed you were defending the right to have a child bride. I just don't find an issue with PB not getting with Finn because I don't project myself onto Finn
>>155752448She is saying based on 5 years passing finn should move on faster, when she's not moved on from marceline after many more years. How are you not able to understand how retarded that looks?
>>155752636That picture is one giant strawman
>>155752689>It prevents you from understanding why a man who gave up a position no longer has the ability to do things that being in that position allowed him to do.Again, "has the opportunity to happen" isn't the same as "actually happened".>"Hey, don't write it like this, write it like I want" and everyone would understand what he meansI am asking you for proof that people wrote stuff PEnn actually didn't want to write. Also, an executive producer can kinda do that, actually.
Meanwhile, in Japan…
>>155752741>when she's not moved on from marceline after many more yearsBecause she met her when her body was already 17-18, anon.also, her relationship with Marcie in the later seasons of AT isn't the same as the one she had with her before that.There is no contradiction, there.
>>155752802Hot.
>>155752802Anyone have that "MOLEST ME!" base where it's a boy telling an older woman to molest him and she's all "What?"
>>155752681>Being gay isn't the problemBeing gay is what created this fake & gay timeline. Yes, it most certainly is a problem.>Adventure time is obnoxious faggot gay, and it's pushed by straight losers who are virtue signaling and generally fake.That because dykes like Rebecca Sugar turned AT into a Tumblr therapy session & fought the network to make PB & Marcliene dykes. Earlier seasons of AT didn't have any of that & PB was actually quite affectionate with Finn. Clearly you never seen the show.> That's why bubbline is trash. Nothing wrong with being technically gay if you just fucking act decent.Ain't nothing decent about buttsex, you degenerate freak. Why do you think the elite are desperately trying to rollback on the woke trash? Because you fuckers pissed off too many people. 98% of the population is straight btw. You're a mere 2%. If a sexual orientation war ever happened, you would lose.
>>155752736>If I was arguing with you in bad faith I would've assumed you were defending the right to have a child brideNo one is saying anything about real life. If the rules of real life applied to this show finn would not be allowed to risk his life for your entertainment. Trying to moralfag over a cartoon where that's the concept is fucking dumb. Pb going childlike didn't actually make her a child because she kept her memories. She's a piece of gum who already flirted with and kissed finn. This is the retard logic that had them replacing good avatar voice actors to better match the imaginary races in the show. It's fiction, stop arbitrarily putting dumb limitations on it especially when what you consider damage is already beyond done. You literally already have him getting his life threatened for entertainment but you think, what, him having a relationship with an old piece of gum is morally wrong? Like holy shit
>>155752835>Being gay is what created this fake & gay timeline.It was electing Trump, actually, so what created this timeline was not "being gay", but "hating gay". You are the problem, anon.>Earlier seasons of AT didn't have any of that & PB was actually quite affectionate with Finn.PB never stopped to be affectionate toward Finn. One does not prevent the other. You fail to make a point.>Ain't nothing decent about buttsex, you degenerate freak.Nor is there anything decent about regular sex either. You are not making a point.>cause you fuckers pissed off too many people.You have failed to showcase any wrong doing.
>>155752854>Trying to moralfag over a cartoon where that's the concept is fucking dumb.It's not what that anon did, though.
>>155752806Her body is superficial and can be easily changed depending on how much gum she has on her bitch. She kept all her memories in between forms and regresses mentally after changing into her "adult" form. Both by lacking kindness, understanding and empathy for finns situation and going back to being enslaved to her responsibility as princess only to later have a break from that burden be portrayed clearly as improving her character despite the body not changing again.
>>155752903>Her body is superficialThe show clearly establishes it define the perception of her age.
>>155752835That's like saying being straight created rape and killing. Just because someone is straight when doing it doesn't mean dick in pussy is the problem. Same with being gay it's more important how you do it than the fact you do it at all.
>>155752920The show clearly shows she regresses as a person and in terms of maturity despite the body becoming more mature. So it's superficial.
>>155752823https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/121941931Right here
>>155752885>It was electing Trump, actually, so what created this timeline was not "being gay", but "hating gay". You are the problem, anon.Gay marriage was legalized under Obama, not Trump. >PB never stopped to be affectionate toward Finn. One does not prevent the other. You fail to make a point.Read the thread faggot. Early seasons of the series clearly show her being affectionate with him.>Nor is there anything decent about regular sex either. You are not making a point.What a faggot response. Regular sex is necessary for procreation. Buttsex is a perversion & doesn't contribute anything. All you're doing is destroying your rectum where you'll have to wear adult diapers till the end of your days.>You have failed to showcase any wrong doing.I just wanted to play video games
Holy shit you people are all fucking lunatics.Goddamn, what happened to this board?
>>155752732>Game devs are allowed to develop their game how they wantLook into grants and tax cuts connected to this. Subsidizing DEI shit is economically effectively the same as fining non-DEI stuff. Making something much harder to make and financially compete with is a step away from a ban.
>>155752993>Gay marriage was legalized under Obama, not Trump.And this didn't cause any problem. Hating gay, though, caused Trump to be elected and THAT did cause problems.>Read the thread faggot.No, you >>155746867This thread is mostly filled with the rant of one guy who is completely obsessed by one single scene to the point of ignoring everything else.>Regular sex is necessary for procreation.Regular sex is also fun and can be a display of affection. So is Gay sex. >Buttsex is a perversionYou have failed to establish that.>I just wanted to play video gamesNothing is stopping you from still playing them. Have you played Zelda Tear of the Kingdom?
>>155752934>Fags: "We just wanted to be left alone">Also fags: "Respect my pronouns or else you're a bigot"You fuckers said the same thing 20 years ago, & look what happened. Ain't giving you degenerates no more chances. The days of praising sodomy & sodomites is over.
>>155753009>Subsidizing DEI shit is economically effectively the same as fining non-DEI stuff.No, it isn't.Also, Game company who do non-gay stuffs also get subsides anyway.
>>155753071>>Fags: "We just wanted to be left alone"What they actually want is to be given the same level of respect as anyone else. That include not trying to deny who they are.Don't try to make an argument based on a false basis.
>>155753062>>155753076Nice coping
>>155753076>letting one racer start a minute earlier isn't the same as making me start a minute laterThat's why I said "effectively" and not "literally".
>>155753071>>155753095You're both faggots for caring about IRL shit. I would be fine with a gay parade every fucking day if they kept their paws away from shows, movies and games.
>>155753097No argument, then.>>1557530981. Making games at a gaming company isn't the same as participating in race. Even if your game come after, it can still end up being more popular, so no, it isn't "effectively" the same.2. You are ignoring that studio who make non-dei games still got subsides too.
>>155752835>Ain't nothing decent about buttsex, you degenerate freak. Why do you think the elite are desperately trying to rollback on the woke trash? Because you fuckers pissed off too many people. 98% of the population is straight btw. You're a mere 2%. If a sexual orientation war ever happened, you would lose.What you're calling woke was objectively more than just being gay, feminist or progressive. The problem with woke is it was superficially supporting groups while hypocritically shitting on others. It's counterproductive try hard progressive. Making characters uglier or covering them up like Muslims to fight "objectification" of women while supporting men even irl being used sexually, for money or otherwise. The ones who fucked up adventure time and other media were straight. Actual wars involved mostly straight people killing other straight people for "elites". What you're calling elite or the pretentious rich don't care about these groups they push they care about money by any means including through pointless fighting like you're supporting. If you care more about technically being gay than being morally consistent you're missing the point. A fag helps save someone's life while your fellow straight boy leaves them to die, you still treating the fag like shit just because he likes it in the ass? You'll still act as if he's inferior?
>>155753062>And this didn't cause any problem. Hating gay, though, caused Trump to be elected and THAT did cause problems.He was elected because you fuckers spent decades shoving that shit down peoples' throats then expecting everyone else to play along your insanity. No one's buying your little victimhood story. If the Democrats are smart, they'd be wise to distant themselves from you sodomites.>This thread is mostly filled with the rant of one guy who is completely obsessed by one single scene to the point of ignoring everything else.Even the FPBP in the thread mentions a relief from the dyke propaganda, you silly delusional queer
>>155753150People can put gay stuff in what they make if this is what they want to do.
>>155753190>He was elected because you fuckers spent decades shoving that shit down peoples' throatsPeople putting gay stuff in their work because that's what they want do isn't "shoving down people throat". Freedom of expression is for everyone anon.>Even the FPBP in the thread mentions a relief from the dyke propagandaIt's likely the same guy and it still doesn't establish gay stuffs as being a problem.Also if "things that exist in the real world exit in a fictional world" is "propaganda, then everything is.
>>155753183>The ones who fucked up adventure time and other media were straight.Adventure Time was never fucked up, though. The show is still fondly remembered by most.
>>155753157>I use a race as a practical example of how a handicap and advantage are similar from the perspective of competition>he clings to it as if game development has the same mechanics as an actual raceAre you the same autist from before? You really should stop arguing with people if you don't know how arguing works.
>>155753246Not really
>>155753191What if it's what the government is using my tax money to bribe them into doing?
>>155753071Pronouns is trans shit the fuck are you talking about. You have how many divisions among straight people already but you're going to unironically generalize every fag as an annoying trans stereotype. Race, religion and many interpretations within each religion. Straight people don't even like each other much and you divorce, cheat and end up in dead bedrooms incredibly often. Dismissing someone just based on wanting to fuck the same sex instead of doing as expected and breeding more uncared slaves for validation is not respectable or morally good it's just fucking dumb. Look around you you fucking idiot. Talking about have a straight vs gay war. Fucking insanity.
>>155753259>>I use a race as a practical example of how a handicap and advantage are similar from the perspective of competitionAnd this is where you fail because one game company is not forcibly in competition with an other.A gamer is more likely to buy both games if both are good. this is why your "head start" comparison doesn't work.Also, you keep ignoring that studio who made non-DEI games still get subsides too.
>>155753261Most people do.>>155753279That's till not forcing them. And they didn't wait for subsides to do so.
>>155753183>Rebecca "gay ships only" Sugar>straightJust because she's married to a guy, it doesn't make her straight. As for the rest of them, how the fuck do you know? Do they report to you about who they fuck? They certainly push LGBT politics in a way to sane straight person would.
>>155753246>Adventure Time was never fucked upYeah it sure did. Ruining relationships that you also wanted to focus a lot on ruined the show. It ruined the newest season because not only are they fumbling the newest relationships but they're holding it back by repeating or bringing up old failed relationships that don't have any real reason to be there. They're trying to make references to when the show was still popular but they messed it up.
>>155753314Normalfags don’t think
>>155753336Everyone in the animation industry knows that Rebecca only married I.GQ for tax reasons.
>>155753356>Ruining relationships that you also wanted to focus a lot on ruined the show.It really didn't. Adventure Time is not just about Relatonship. It's more about Adventures and they never ceased having great ones.Also relationships not working out doesn't mean there won't be other that will work out and they did and it did made good stories.
>>155753361They don't think about you, you mean.
>>155753336Rebecca wasn't the only one involved in that. You said yourself most the population is straight. Straight guys still support lesbians because they're women and they can fap to them. Straight men fuck each other over all the time because they're in harsh competition for women and other things. That's what makes it really ironic to try and push the idea of a straight and gay war. If you got rid of every fag you would go right back to mistreating and getting rid of each other.
>>155753417>Straight men fuck each other over all the time because they're in harsh competition for women and other things.narrator voice: they weren't actually straight guys...
>>155753296>A gamer is more likely to buy both games if both are goodReally? Bought many games lately? For full price specifically.Also even if your fantasy land where everyone has lots of money to waste on hobbies was real, the subsidized company would need to sell less to get into the green. So eventually, the non-subsidized ones would either be unfairly out-competed or forced into conforming to also receive subsidies.Also you're retarded if you think normal subsidies are anywhere near the DEI shit.
>>155753395Adventure time isn't just about relationships but the episode burning low which portrayed a type of love triangle between pb and flame princess was one of the most viewed episodes. Views fell off a lot so good chance what people remember is the relationship shit. And to this day again the newest season was mainly about relationship ship involving one of their most famous fumbles but also genderbent and in a boring fionna world practically no one wanted.
>>155753446>Really? Bought many games lately? For full price specifically.If the game is good, gamer will buy it, yes. Even in this economy.>Also you're retarded if you think normal subsidies are anywhere near the DEI shit.There is no difference, anon.
>>155753435>straight guys don't constantly turn on each other over women or the pursuit of themYeah fucking right. Put one woman that's not even attractive in an established friend group and suddenly they're all acting different to peacock.
>>155753487>And to this day again the newest season was mainly about relationship ship involving one of their most famous fumbles but also genderbent and in a boring fionna world practically no one wanted.Actually, a lot of people enjoyed it. Much more the adventure aspect of it, actually.
>>155753523>>Straight men fuck each other over all the time
>>155753517>the amount of good games bought is constant, only the amount of food consumed varies in population>there's no differenceAnd that's why AAA studios make games where everyone is ugly, black and gay: because they simply believe in the cause and are ready to take financial losses for its advancement, as all corporations in a capitalist society are.
>>155753416No
>>155753546Yeah define a lot of people. Last I checked some random reposting a clip from burning low and fionna mimicking early seasons finn scared yelling got more views than the clips for the rest of the newer show. Original fionna and marshal lee was pretty popular, I haven't seen any of the same hype over dj shart or beefy genderbent huntress with a woman's voice.
>>155753546Sure, sure
>>155753609>>the amount of good games bought is constanNot what I said.>And that's why AAA studios make games where everyone is uglyFactually false, anon.> because they simply believe in the causeOr simply because they want to. Also, when it comes to AAA games, it's about what will reach the most audience. If including black and gay will sell more, then they will include it, it has nothing to do with subsides.
>>155753659Lol, keep believing it
>>155753546>a lot of people enjoyed it.I guess that with "a lot people" you refer specifically to your little group of discord because not even ex-tumblr refugees on Twitter could defend thay in Fionna and Cake S2, even the faggots were shitting on it.This aspect was by a long shot the worst part of the original show.
>>155753684>>155753636>>155753634>>155753713>you refer specifically to your little group of discordNo, I refer to the fact that AT keeps getting spin-off and new seasons.
>>155753743Yeah, because of nostalgia and desperation
>>155753775Or maybe because people watch those shows.
>>155753800Don’t make us bust out that one quote
>>155753743That means nothing in the age of IPocalypse, big mouth has 8 seasons and I'd not say it's good or that many people watch, getting more slop means nothing and even less now that executives are afraid of new IPs like CH greenblatt recently said
>>155753828No quote change that you have no idea how many people actually watched those show. The fact that more are being done is the only objective indicator.
>>155753905>>155753894
>>155753894Did you know that the live action Ted show is one of the most streamed show there is?https://deadline.com/2026/04/ted-season-2-ratings-viewership-seth-macfarlane-peacock-1236869885/
>>155753743>>155753800The fact they're leaning so much on the early show shows they want to appeal to that audience and get that kind of popularity again. I just don't see why in that case they didn't at least go further and deliver on something like original fionna and marshal instead of even worse flame prince and a mid boy huntress wizard.
>>155753911see >>155753920the argument was if a lot of people kept watched AT shows.That it's of good quality is an other argument.
>>155753296Holy liggeral hands wrote this. I can taste the stale city air you live in. There is a finite amount of wealth individuals have. You might afford your latte and rice crispy every time but the VAST majority will have to pick and choose one or the other and don’t have infinite time to spend watching/playing garbage all day. You go to the rental store and you have to choose one product a week.Now imagine on top of that your taxes get funneled directly into making garbage you hate. Remove all federal and state funding being handed out as scholarships for LGBT/RaceMixing/Immigration ect. It is absolutely tanking the moral economy. We got so many pride flags, gay pride, trans pride, androgynous pride, paid for by the government and yet not one Southern Pride smdh
>>155753936Or if they're trying so hard to bring up flame princess again despite being completely irrelevant for the situation there how could they not mention the relationship with bubblegum that came before it despite it having more relevance?
>>155753095Fags aren't human. You just want access to children. Fuck off.
>>155753964>There is a finite amount of wealth individuals have.That doesn't mean subvention work on a zero-su m game logic. That only happens at saturation, which, when it comes to good games, isn't the case.You are trying to apply a logic where it doesn't w<ork just so you can stroke your "DEI" hate because you simply can't fathom people would actually want to put gay stuff in what they do.>Now imagine on top of that your taxes get funneled directly into making garbage you hateProve this is an actual thing first.
>>155754068Accusations without proof.
>>155754086Here's your proof
>>155754113>anon does not understand satireExpected.
>>155754113Unironically, why can't they just fap to loli and shota like normal people?
>>155754144Ok, here's more than one person of the same group shouting the same thing
>>155754174see>>155754165
>>155753417>Straight guys still support lesbians because they're women and they can fap to themStraight guys like hot lesbians for the same reason why Muslims have polygamy marriages. We're hardwired for harems.> Straight men fuck each other over all the time Those aren't straight men
>>155754068>>155754113>>155754174Why don't all the straight pedos coming for kids mean straights aren't human?
>>155754261But it's still gay for hot lesbians to do their thing. For religions like Christianity they also make a big deal out of monogamy.
>>155731360This is a pretty weird thread discussion, but pretty neat nonetheless. I hope to see more of this Adventure Time thread content soon.
>>155754329Never
>>155754329I’d like to see an AT thread without all the usual schizos, just for a change of pace.
>>155754409>without all the usual schizosLike who?
>>155754409>>155754419
>>155753615Yes..
>>155753097Nice arresting>>155744825Stop arresting hothead>>155746453we didn't, keep arresting
>>155731360I haven't seen it yet. Is this what the art looks like? I don't like it.
>>155750287>>155750251both of you cannot breathe btw
>>155750726Sperg lol>>155747381>>155747406So your slanderous bermitscher, newfag
>>155745268>>155745085>>155745340Yes, censorshipfag>>155745164and we called your bermitsched slander>>155744831of course you are, son of disappoint
>>155744102>>155735981>>155733621Yes>>155733701don't be a clown>>155739135Gtfo, deflecting toon
>>155735250>>155746858>>155746827both of you cannot breathe again btw
