Post questions or comments you want the audience to scream at the NYCC Spider Panel!
>>155768238Why didn't Stern or DeFalco write anything for #1000? At least they could answer 10 silly questions, thanks Marvel...
>>155768238Why do you not hire competent trusted writers and hire talentless no name """writers""" instead?
>>155768341>Stern wrote a story for Dr. Strange #450>but not for Spider-Man #1000>despite being much more well-known for and arguably more important for Spider-ManI was going to make a joke about priorities, but as I’m writing this I’m realizing there’s a good chance editorial actually shafted him on #1000 for Bendis. That, or Strange didn’t have enough other writers who were willing to contribute to his “milestone.” If he had time to answer questions, he was at least aware of it…
>>155768238I'd commend the effort to at least try to be organized and effective for once, but the fact they were unprepared to be pinned by a post BND fan and just engaged in bad faith then opted out of the argument anyway tells you what will likely happen now that they're ready for it.A more damning message would be no one showing up, but there are too many sycophants and mainstream media journalists for that to happen.
>>155768384>competent trusted writersSuch as? Every good writer is too old, and they're probably unhappy with modern Spider-Man. They would change a lot of shit and Marvel wouldn't be okay with that: a better book and a less annoying Peter Parker
>>155768238>want the audience to scream at the NYCC Spider Panel!NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGEEEEEEEEEEERS
>>155768238What was the point of Paul? It wasn’t to tell a story because there was no payoff until years later with a completely different writer who just unceremoniously killed him off. Why create a character you know fans are going to despise without a clear payoff in mind?
>>155768238ARE WE GETTING MORE RAPE BY DECEPTION?!SHOW ME THE APPEAL OF GWEN ON THE PRINTED PAGE AND WHAT HER PERSONALITY IS! AND I MEAN 616 GWEN!LOWE! ARE THE LETTERS A.I. GENERATED!?ARE YOU REBOOTING FINALLY NOW THAT DC IS GONNA BLOW MIDNIGHT OUT OF THE WATER!?WILL BEN REILLY NOT BE WRITTEN OOC AND WILL KAINE SHOW UP!? OR IS MILES GONNA KEEP BEING DRAGGED OUT WITH SHONEN POWER UPS!?ARE YOU GONNA USE NORMAN TO HUMILIATE PETER AND ALSO RETCON MORE OF THEIR ORIGINS FOR SHITTY STORIES!?WILL PAUL GET A SYMBIOTE AND TRANSITION TO BEING A WOMAN?!ARE YOU GOING TO PISS ON SHOCKER'S GRAVE TO ENRAGE US!?WILL SLOTT RETURN TO FURTHER DRIVE THE ENTIRE IP INTO THE GROUND?!LOWE WILL YOU MAKE MORE TYPOS AND LET MORE COLORING MISTAKES THROUGH?!WILL YOU HAVE MORE BASIC, FUNDAMENTAL CONTINUITY MISTAKES?!WILL DEAD LANGUAGE BE IGNORED EVEN HARDER?!LOWE! HAVE YOU READ AVENGERS ISSUE 200?!LOWE! DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT RAPE IS?! DOES WACKER? HERE, LET ME BRING UP VALERIE D'ORAZIO TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY!LOWE! ARE YOU AND YOUR FAILED TV WRITER BUDDIES ASHAMED YOU COULD NEVER LAND A JOB THAT MATTERS!? DO YOU FEEL MORALLY SUPERIOR EVEN THOUGH YOUR COMPANY EXPLOITS 3RD WORLD ARTISTS?!WILL SLOTT TAKE QUESTIONS ON CBR AND GET HUMILIATED AGAIN?!
>>155768654>WILL SLOTT TAKE QUESTIONS ON CBR AND GET HUMILIATED AGAIN?!I’m guessing his post-1000 sabbatical from social media didn’t last long
LOWE! WHEN CAN WE EXPECT THE ULT HICKMAN UNIVERSE TO RETURN SO IT RAPES YOU AND EXPOSES YOU, SLOTT, AND BREVOORT'S MUH SALES HYPOCRISY AND DELUSION?!LOWE! HOW MANY MORE TIMES ARE YOU GOING TO STYLE YOURSELF AFTER AND TALK LIKE STAN LEE IN A CORNY FASHION?!WILL MARVEL TRY TO KILL LCS's ONCE AND FOR ALL, NOW OR LATER?! AND HOW DO YOU EXPECT ANYONE IN BARNES AND NOBLE TO BUY YOUR BOOKS WHEN MANGA ALREADY RAPED YOU THERE OR AT ANY OTHER BOOK STORE NOW THAT CAPE FATIGUE HAS FULLY SET IN?!LOWE! HOW CAN YOU JUSTIFY THE UTTER LACK OF PRESENCE OF THE SUPPORTING CAST IN ASM OR ANY OTHER BOOK AND THEN SAY PETER'S MAIN APPEAL IS RELATABILITY TO YOUNG PEOPLE AND BEING A BACHELOR WHEN HE TALKS TO NO ONE AND IS HAVING SHALLOW INTERACTIONS WITH ALIENS AND DEMONS?! LOWE! HOW MUCH SEMEN DO YOU CONSUME OF SLOTT AND BREVOORT AND VICE VERSA?! WHO HAS CONSUMED THE MOST OF EACH OTHER AND WHICH IS YOUR FAVORITE!? LOWE! WHY IS THAT MJ GETS THE MOST AMOUNT OF FOCUS AND STORIES WHERE SHE IS WRITTEN WILDLY DIFFERENTLY AND HOW DID YOU NOT SEE THE DIRECTION THAT SPENCER WAS GOING?! DID YOU SEE IT BUT DELUDED YOURSELF INTO THINKING HE HAD NO SPINE, LIKE YOURSELF?! OR WAS IT ALL A MASTER PLAN TO GET FURTHER ENRAGEMENT SALES?! WHAT BLACKMAIL DO YOU HAVE ON CHRISTOS GAGE AND SPENCER?!WILL YOST WRITE ANY OF THESE BOOKS AND WHY DOESN'T HE?! ARE THERE SPIDER-MANDATES TIED TO THE BREVOORT OMD MANIFESTO?!DO YOU REALLY THINK CHILDREN BUY THESE BOOKS WITH THE AMOUNT OF VIOLENCE, SCHIZOPHRENIC PLOTS, AND BACKGROUND KNOWLEDGE REQUIRED TO UNDERSTAND THEM!?WHY ISN'T TOBIN WRITING A KID FRIENDLY BOOK THAT SHITS ON YOU AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY WITH HOW MUCH SALES IT GETS?! WHY ISN'T MAYDAY FEATURED MORE OFTEN IN PROMO MATERIAL FOR BEING THE FEMALE CHARACTER WITH THE MOST ISSUES?!ARE SLOTT, YOU, AND BREVOORT THE MOST CASTRATED FAGGOTS ALIVE?!
LOWE! WHAT DO YOU THINK OF DITKO'S ESSAY WHERE HE MENTIONS CRITICISMS OF QUESADA AND HOW HE IS A WORTHLESS STORYTELLER ESSENTIALLY WHO MISSES THE ENTIRE POINT OF SPIDER-MAN?!CAN I EXPECT YOU AT A GAY NIGHTCLUB THIS EVENING?!
>>155768654>>155768810>>155768826Good shit.
>>155768810>WHY ISN'T TOBIN WRITING A KID FRIENDLY BOOK THAT SHITS ON YOU AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY WITH HOW MUCH SALES IT GETS?! WHY ISN'T MAYDAY FEATURED MORE OFTEN IN PROMO MATERIAL FOR BEING THE FEMALE CHARACTER WITH THE MOST ISSUES?!If I were Marvel Comics I would crawl over glass to get him back and working on some Wayne Family Adventures webtoon equivalent because holy shit is that popular.
>>155768826Don't forget DeFalco saying Peter Parker is about responsibility and not youth, and basically how all he warned about has come to pass.
LOWE! HOW IS JAPAN TAKING THE ARRIVAL OF AKIRA?! HAVE THEY BUILT UP ENOUGH OF A MILITARY ARSENAL TO CONTAIN HIM OR ARE YOU GOING TO UNLEASH HIS FULL POWER ON THE UNSUSPECTING JAPANESE CITIZENRY FOR DARING TO NOT BUY YOUR BOOKS?! I HEAR MANY JAPANESE WOMEN ARE FEARFUL FOR THEIR LIVES AND WOMBS FOR HIS REBIRTH COULD COME FROM ANY OF THEM AND THREATEN A DEVASTATING NUCLEAR-LIKE IMPACT THAT PSYCHICALLY WREAKS HAVOC ON ALL OF US?! IS SLOTT UNDER THE TABLE RIGHT NOW GIVING YOU FELLATIO?!IS WACKER WACKIN' IT BACKSTAGE?!IS BENDIS RETURNING TO MAKE MILES A CHARACTER BEYOND PETER DARKER OR IS HE GONNA BE EVEN MORE OF A POOCHIE!?HOW DID THAT ONE TWITTER USER WHO POSTED THAT SEETHING WOJAK MASK PIC MAKE YOU FEEL?! WILL YOU HIDE BEHIND SALES NUMBERS ONLY YOU KNOW TO JUSTIFY YOUR POSITIONS JUST LIKE HOW THE GOVERNMENT HIDES BEHIND CLASSIFIED DOCS TO HIDE WAR CRIMES AND STUFF LIKE EPSTEIN?!WILL JOE KELLY BRING BACK VAMP?!WHY WAS ULT CANCELLED IF IN ALL YOUR HISTORY AS A COMPANY YOU HAVE NEVER CARED ABOUT ARTISTIC MERIT, ONLY SALES AND WHEN SOMETHING SELLS, IT GETS CANCELLED AND NOT EXTENDED?! DID WE GET YOU IN A HUMILIATION RITUAL USING YOUR SALES AGAINST YOU AND SOMEHOW YOU WERE NOT GREEDY AND VALUED PRIDE?! SO THERE ARE THINGS MORE VALUABLE THAN MONEY?! THEN WHY ISN'T ARTISTIC MERIT HIGHER ON THE TOTEM POLE THAN MONEY IF PRIDE IS HIGHER THAN IT?!SORRY YOU FELT THAT WAY, BUT HAVE A NICE DAY!
Alright now we just need more salient and potent points and the thread to last until thursday and just one brave /co/mrade to make a stand....A last stand...
>do you see Dead Language as bad as Sins Past? When will it and the entirety of MJ's choices and the lack of them be retconned?
>>155768894Never forget how much of a faggot Lowe was to Darwyn Cooke for stealing Cooke's idea.
>>155769060QRD friend anon?
>if Spider-Man is a story about youth, why are a bunch of 60 year olds the ones writing it?
>>155768238WHY YOU GUYS MADE THE SEQUEL OF AVENGERS #200 WITH PAUL RABIN? BECAUSE THE SIMILARITIES IS WAY TOO MUCH IN ORDER TO BE COINCIDENCE.WHY YOU GUYS KEEP ONE MORE DAY CANON WHEN EVERYONE MAKES FUN OF YOU GUYS FOR BEING BITTER OLD MEN WHO ARE EITHER DIVORCED OR HATE THEIR WIVES AND THINK THE STORY IS SHIT?
>why do you keep using MJ for covers and anniversary milestones with Peter if you know it sells, but have done nothing but bend over backwards to sabotage their relationship?>do you believe the choices made for both of them have made them stronger or weaker characters?
>>155769071Cooke pitched what is essentially what became Marvel Adventures and Lowe stole that idea for himself tonget done and had either Tobin directly or indirectly be the writer/steward of the line instead of Cooke getting credit and responsibility. That's how I remember the whole deal but I might be wrong. Anyway, Tobin isn't to blame. The point is Lowe stole a major opportunity from Cooke and so Cooke found him at a bar and dumped beer over Lowe's head, for being a lying coward faggot.
>>155768238I wonder if the editorial are gonna get a reality check again like last year when the Shogun got set off when people were asking to the editorial questions about Peter and MJ, then he interrogated a younger comic book reader when he started reading Spider-Man comics expecting him to be a older fan who read things from the 80's and 90's only for the young fan reply that he started reading Spider-Man after OMD due being a teen at the time, Cebulski ceased the debate in front of the crowd.
>>155769196Is this real? Based if true.
>>155768384>competent trusted writersSeriously guys, what are some good modern writers?
>>155769548Tobin, albeit I feel bad for Cooke if the above story anon gave is true, there is no denying he did a damn good job.No clue why Spider-Marriage equivalent isn't there on webtoons with a young Mayday, we know there is a large audience for it with Wayne Family Adventures.Wait, yes I do, they are allergic to things that upset the mandate too well.
>>155769648>Wait, yes I do, they are allergic to things that upset the mandate too well.So exactly how many individuals are still forcing this? Is it something most people at Marvel want or mostly some important guys?
>>155769692The latter, it's a bottleneck much like Didio was. And much like Didio expect pretty remarkable improvement once it's gone. The problem is Didio was just one man and a couple of cronies, Marvel it's a whole geriatric Ratking. Lowe is the youngest in his forties, but typically it's guys approaching retirement who want to see the mandate last as long as they live. This despite the Mandate of Heaven from fans being long gone from whatever angle they wished to make of OMD.
>>155769342The part about Cooke getting beer and dumping it on Lowe's head? Yeah.
When will you apologize for Dead Language? Shooter apologized for Avengers #200.
>>155769648>NASO: One of the altercations that seems to get a lot of attention is an incident with current Marvel editor, Axel Alonso. After the Wizard feature on you came out, a letter from Marvel editor Nick Lowe appeared in a subsequent issue accusing you of attacking Axel without provocation at a convention and said you should be embarrassed by the incident. What exactly happened between you and Axel that led to the altercation?>COOKE: There are four other people involved in the situation that caused what happened there. I can’t go into it out of respect for them, and the fact that it would take another 40 pages to explain the entire sleazy situation. I will say this about it: You don’t pour a beer on a senior editor in the hotel bar of a show unless you feel he has done something incredibly despicable. As for Nick Lowe, I feel for the guy. Back in the ’80s he was a pop star and now he’s a junior editor at Marvel. [Note to everyone’s lawyers: This is a joke.]https://www.tcj.com/the-darwyn-cooke-interview-by-markisan-naso/4/Also my bad, I have made this mistake before. It was Alonso he dumped it on and Lowe was a pissy little faggot using their mouthpiece, Wizard, to take a shot at Cooke.
>>155769971Wizard was early-early access media. Another dead Ratking.
>>155768911Tom DeFalco is a certified ball knower.
>>155769971Fuck Axel Alonso in general. He was a worse EIC than Quesada, unironically.
>>155769907BAAASED
>>155770186>shows up to Spider-panel in steveweiser truck>Pulls out hose>Sprays entire Marvel editorial with beer bathCAN I GET A HELL YEAH!?
>>155768238Are MJ and Flash Dating? anything other than a solid no is a no buy.
>is doing the exact opposite of what the audience wants intentional or just a repeated consistent accident?
>>155768238>What Story was moved from 1000 to MJs 60th anniversary?
>>155769311Editorial had it in their heads that OMD naysayers are some aging minority.Even though the entire rest of the IP having them together in adaptations means keeping them apart for the sake of status quo is actually a sure sign of an old grognard thinking, and the youth when told about ASM and why they aren't together think it's retarded. They aren't nearly so cocky about it anymore, I think it's dawned on them that they are the Dodos.
>>155768238Guys the strat is to ask intelligent questions that result in stumbling answers, like they got a curveball>"Can you explain how you're going to compete with Absolute DC? Numbers suggest that Absolute Batman alone exceeded ASM1000 presales. What are you doing to retain old and newer fans, and where do you feel you've mistepped?"
>>155770493>le buy and find out ;)How about no White.
Another question to throw them off>"What are you going to do to support this new Midnight line, and what do you have to say to fans with concerns about abrupt cancellation like Ultimate?"
>>155770856I can't remember what it was about, but there was a thread a few weeks ago about sales slump and an anon who knew a insider guy said Marvel's response to such thing is "we're not worried about competing, we're doing fine" because merch, reception and movie grossing from Spiderverse and Brand New Day makes the property still seem lucrative to Disney.It's hearsay but I can see that sort of handwave response being repeated.
>>155771207This is like Joe Q taking credit for BND, something in name only relation to his work.All these guys equivalent of record dealerships claiming they wrote gold records, no you had a license.
>>155771207If the movies and merch are the only significant parts of the equation, Disney will eventually start asking questions about why they're wasting money on comics. It's hard to believe that they don't see this.
>>155771376It 'breaks even', but not by much and the opportunity cost of modernizing both the line and the access to comics that reaches more of the youth like manga is the real pain. It's managed decline that keeps very select individuals happy, and more importantly out of the crosshairs.
>>155768238>what do the Bobs effect my so...
>>155768238WHEN THE FUCK IS LOWE GETTING FIRED
>do you regret some of the decisions you made with MJ? And how much of what you have done recently is due to what happened in Wells run?This is the softest I can softball the elephant, and they would still fumble around it
>When will you admit that you guys fucked this shit up hard?
>why did Rabin last twice as long as Clones and Gwen being alive?>like was that by design?>did you intend for that relationship to have as many redflags as it did?>why was MJ calling Peter from a closet like she was hiding from her abusive father again?
>Wells said Paul was a mistake, Brevoort called Dead Language a dud, when are you fucking retconning this monumental mess you have made out of what was comics greatest pairing?>did you intend to turn Peter and MJ into Ross and Rachel?>why does Paul look like Jared Fogle most of the time?
>>155768238I have an explosive device strapped to my body under my jacket, comply with my demands and we'll all get to go home safely
>>155771376I think Marvel just got used to coasting since DC had Didio making continuous asinine decisions that kept Marvel firmly at the top. What corporate masters want to hear is that you’re number one. The details don’t matter as long as you’re number one. I don’t think anyone saw DC getting their shit together as well as they did and curbstomping Marvel so hard for so long. The worst thing to tell your corporate master is that you’ve lost the number one spot. The absolute worst thing is to lose your number one spot in such a public way it makes your corporate master look bad.
>>155772107It's also bad to lose so much that an unknown fucking third company is starting to eat out of your slice of the pie.
