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>Deviantart is crap
>Tumblr is crap
>Instagram is crap
>Twitter is crap
>Bluesky is crap
>Newgrounds is crap

Now what?
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>4chan is crap
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>>155775680
What are you doing, looking for art I presume?
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>>155775704
Nothing new under the sun
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>>155775680
>OP's life is crap
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>>155775680
You have a storage drive, don't you?
Don't tell me you're some sort of narcissist who NEEDS to show off his scribbles to the rest of the world.
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>>155775680
ArtStation! Hope you like mock-Pixar model sheets and VFX portfolios!
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>>155775680
>Now what?
Going outside.
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>>155775836
It's also crap due to AI slop being allowed. Some of artists left that site for Furaffinity of all things, so that should paint a picture just how bad Artstation is as a site.
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>>155775680
>Newgrounds is crap
Since when?
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>>155775853
Site's owner nuked Oney's entire account over him getting #metoo'd.
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>>155775680
Now we die childless losers living hand to mouth because we spent our 20s and 30s browsing
>Deviantart
>Tumblr
>Instagram
>Twitter
>Bluesky
>Newgrounds
>4chan
and we will have nothing to distruct us from the loneliness and the regret.
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>>155775865
Fucking hell, that's gay. When did that happen?
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>>155775865
>>155775961
Who cares? Who even knows these people? They have no bearing on your life.
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>>155775680
I saw some homeless people painting and selling art by the super target on the highway.
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>>155775680
>Outside is crap (hostile inhuman architecture and businesses. ai graphic design everywhere. Street art constantly vandalized and all artists live in isolation.)
>Forest is filled with ticks and they give you dick-falling-off-diseases
>imagination is crap (nightmarish visions of terror and despair)

brave new world. imagine how gay the afterlife is
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>>155775990
You were that room spamming threads trying to shit in Chris weren't you?
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>>155776250
> to shit in Chris
> basedjak
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>>155775680
>Now what?
Nothing. The era of the internet as a space for creatives is coming to an end.
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I do sometimes wonder if the Internet I'm trying to give back to through my art is just... gone by now.
Even if you make it big and your Twitter post gets boosted into the X0'000 Likes stratosphere is seems like there's a good chance you just get a handful of comments. Presumably because most people just Like and Follow to nudge their algo, and aren't there to actually engage with anything that crosses their TL. Or maybe I'm wrong?

For now I just keep doing my best and try not to worry about something as out-of-my-control as the landscape of the Internet. Even if it's a bit lonely mostly cooking for myself.
I post to a couple different sites so as to lower switching costs for people feeling trapped by network effects, plus it means *I* don't put all my eggs into one basket. I also keep my ear open in case any of these RETVRN TO GEOCITIES movements make headway. I think that's about all I can do.

>>155775834
Isn't art usually trying to communicate something to an audience?

For example, designing a character so you understand their role or personality at a glance is only useful in so far it makes for smoothly teaching neophytes. If you already know the character inside and out, being the creator, then reinforcing their personality through visuals becomes unnecessary / purely aesthetic.
The same principle can be extrapolated to a lot of things such as building tension, foreshadowing, etc.

Tho I do think it's good to do some things just for yourself with no intention of sharing it with anyone. Just purely to relax and explore. I think that's healthy.
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>>155775680
Embrace the crap, I say.
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>>155775680
Just embrace the AI future, OP. Continue doing your traditional art knowing that people will respect you more for continuing to do it, while posting it in a sea of sludge. The cream floats to the top, as they say.
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>>155775680
>>155775704
>Trump and it's white trash freakshow is crap.
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>>155775990
If I'm going to use a site, I'd like to know that the site owner isn't a rampaging faggottosaurus.
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>155776489
>Trump outta nowhere.
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>>155775680
Deviantart is easily the best for organization
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>>155775680
Just enjoy what you like and stop whining.
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>>155776567
>He says while using 4chan.
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I'm enjoying Inkbunny for the most part
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>>155776458
May I just make a couple of suggestions, one is that the modern internet is much larger in user base than previously, and not use users but producers, we now have more avenues of content as well as artists making stuff to cater to people. In a strange way it reduces the conversation because those individuals drawn to one character have several guys to go to rather than one or two. You might be better off drawing characters or subjects that are more niche where the audience is smaller but so is the pool of talent making stuff for it.
The less kind suggestion is that your art isn’t interesting enough to elicit a response. That’s not me being mean but rather asking you to ask yourself if what you’re doing is actually saying something worth remarking on, I don’t know. Good luck in any case.
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>>155775680
Fan culture has turned to shit. It's because the very idea of it is cringe and the upcoming generation is the one that detests any form of emotional expression, lame or otherwise.
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>>155777034
No, it's relevant because fan art and fan animations are posted to these sites. Cartoons are too.
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>>155776825
You've got me there, but I'm a slave to my habits.
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>>155776828
Right, but what am I supposed to do if I'm not a furry?
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>>155777113
Just keep looking until you find that character that turns you into a furry
Everyone has one.
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I actually dont blame politics, what I blame is people deciding they are content cops and Kiwi Farfs and gang up on artists drawing stupid or silly shit. At its core rule 34 was inherently silly and if it was brand new, all these fags would decide it's cringe and try to run off anyone who makes it, doxing them and so on.
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>>155775865
>>155775961
Tom knows Oney personally and the latter was a composer for the game Tom currently works on, so there's bound to be some more behind-the-scenes shit to that decision.
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>>155777175
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>>155777034
fag
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I still cant believe Newgrounds got cucked. And for an unfounded fad.
I guess Tom wanted to tap someone and saw an opportunity
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>>155775680
Me personally, i've deleted every drawing gallery account i have due to nwo crap. I only use twitter to yell at pundits and stir up angry mobs. And i only post art to 4chan cuz freedum. But, most requests have been uninteresting lately so i just focus on irl stuff and draw when i feel like it. Usually ending with fapping to it. Maybe others can relate.
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>>155777992
Nwo?
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>>155775680
Imagine using bluecry lmao
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>>155775961
A day or two ago, give or take.
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>>155776343
Answer the question troon.
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>>155775680
We now have no excuse to not go outside and build elaborate underground tunnel networks. Grab shovels /co/ we have a new hobby.
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>>155777992
can def relate, basically retired to fap to my own drawings cuz fuck the world
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>>155775853
It has been for years. Faggots have infested the site after FNF took off.
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>>155776458
I've kind of excused myself from the western art community, it's nothing but retarded drama, politics, and culture war shit.
You can even see it now in the Malfoid trend currently going on; eastern artists are drawing and sharing shit, with even actual professional artists in Japan hopping on the trend and having fun, meanwhile in the west everyone is bitching, moaning, whining, and trying to cancel each other over dumb bullshit and causing drama.
The only western artists that don't engage in this dumb shit are the loli artists, and that's mostly because they're all already basically persona non grata in the western art community.
The culture warriors got what they wanted, they've essentially killed the art community in the west.
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>>155775680
hop on Pinterest bro
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>>155777199
People say this but Tom also bent the knee to BLM and made a gay little video about it for no reason. Given his history, he seems too quick to appease *that* crowd so his decisions shouldn't be taken as gospel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc-8sufD2mo
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>>155775704
First post best post
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>>155776489
Retard
>>155776250
Also a retard
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Make a new website and ban all trannies/political slogans
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>>155775680
How come someone hasn't made a proper art website clone
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>>155775853
Since forever faggot
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>>155776458
it's gone. you can now move on with your life
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>>155777199
Tom is a faggot, always was, always will be
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>>155775961
I don't blame you for not knowing about this, BECAUSE THE FUCKING MODS KEEP DELETING THE THREADS ABOUT IT
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>>155777199
One of the mods confirmed Tom did not talked to Oney about it, he went straight to delete his account on a nothing burger of an accusation.
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>>155775853
>Since when
SINCE WE WERE ALL 12 LIVING IN THE SUBURBS LISTENING TO LINKIN PARK WATCHING DRAGONBALL Z DRINKING PEPSI WHILE PLAYING HALO CO-OP ON THE EASIEST SETTING DURING WHICH WE CONSUMED DORITOS AND LOOKED AT PAINTBALL GUNS ON EBAY IN INTERNET EXPLORER CONNECTED THROUGH AOL ON A 56K MODEM BEFORE HOPPING INTO OUR BALDING FATHERS' LATEST MIDLIFE-CRISIS-IMPULSE-SPONSORED JAPANESE-BUILT SUV TO HEAD TO THE MALL AND GET MORE SKATEBOARDING SHOES AND THIRD-RATE IRREGULAR LEVIS AND MOUNTAIN BIKE PARTS BEFORE HEADING HOME, VOTING DEMOCRAT AND MASTURBATING TO THE LATEST SEARS CATALOG WHILE HUFFING PAINT IN YOUR GARAGE BEFORE TALKING TO PEDOPHILES ON AIM PRETENDING TO BE WHATEVER CAMWHORE THEY'RE RANTING ABOUT ON MYSPACE WITH A MATRIX QUOTE/ANIME CHARACTER NAME/TRIPLE SIX-ASTERISK-PARENTHESES-SURROUNDED SCREENNAME BEFORE HEADING TO YOUR SUPPOSED "GOOD SCHOOL" IN THE MORNING TO BUY MORE POT TO SMOKE DURING YOUR COUNTER-STRIKE LAN PARTY WITH JIMMY AND THE REST OF HIS FRIENDS TAKING RITALIN AND ADDERALL AND PROZAC EIGHT TIMES A DAY BEFORE TAKING A CASUAL PASS AT LOCAL, STATE OR NATIONAL GOVERNMENTAL FIGURES, LEGISLATURE, OR STRUCTURE TO APPEAR EDGY AND INTELLIGENT IN FRONT OF YOUR BUDWEISER-SNEAKING, LIMP-WRISTED, NEAR-TO-COLUMBINE SOCIOPATHIC "DEEP" FRIENDS WHO PLAY THE VICTIM WHEN THEY START LOSING ARGUMENTS SIX DAYS BEFORE THEIR BOTCHED SUICIDE ATTEMPT SIMPLY BECAUSE SCHOOL TRAMP NUMBER TWELVE WOULDN'T GO UNDER THE BLEACHERS WITH THEM TO LET THEM GET TO SECOND BASE BEFORE THEIR THIRTEENTH BIRTHDAY.
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>>155782528
Dude it's over. Veronica's alt account is gone alongside the Google document and Oney keeps playing happy wheels.
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>>155776739
Yes, they are obsessed with pretending the controlled opposition is a threat to the progressive illness they've supported for centuries.
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>>155775704
>>155775680
The internet is just crap now, remember, DEAD INTERNET THEORY MAN!
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>>155775680
>>155775704
I don't know if i'm just becoming an old boomer who hates the world or things really are getting more shit
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>>155775865
>>155775853
And banning lolisho
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>>155782772
Yes. Yes.
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>>155776343
>>155776250
>WORDFILTER
>Since 2014-2016
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>>155776458
>Even if you make it big and your Twitter post gets boosted into the X0'000 Likes stratosphere is seems like there's a good chance you just get a handful of comments. Presumably because most people just Like and Follow to nudge their algo, and aren't there to actually engage with anything that crosses their TL. Or maybe I'm wrong?

You are indeed wrong currently, it's not even that, GOD I WISH it was, is just artificial pushup, all those retweets and likes, yeah, BOTS, fucking BOTS, remember, 60%.
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>>155775680
>>155776458
I get what you mean. It can feel disheartening to pursue art or anything really these days, since the internet and to some extent the world as a whole got bloated with content and mindless drones.
But one thing about art though is that a big part of it is doing it for yourself, because you like it, you think it's fun, you feel the need to create something.
As long as you still feel that need, I say to keep doing it, to keep expressing yourself and all. I have stopped since I just don't feel creative anymore, and the whole internet environment annoys me nowadays, but I do admire those who still feel the urge to create cool stuff.

Nice drawing btw drawfren. Hope you'll always keep that spark within you lit.
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>>155776246
>imagine how gay the afterlife is
One woman did just that.
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>>155782772
Maybe it's both. I'm on the same boat. Everything feels extremely non-genuine now, be it games, cartoons, movies, art, the internet as a whole, and even people in general.
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>>155776250
That sounds like Turkey. And that's why you don't go browsing the NewGrounds forum.
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>>155782310
it costs a lot of money to host people's art
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>>155775680
itaku.ee
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>>155775853
>>155775865
>O'Neill, known as Oney or OneyNG, built a legacy on Newgrounds since 2006 with popular Flash animations and audio tracks. Allegations emerged around September 26, 2026, claiming he groomed and had a sexual relationship with a 16-year-old fan in 2013-2014, backed by photos and message screenshots. Fulp announced the deletion in a supporter forum on October 1, citing deep disappointment over O'Neill's silence, while reactions split between support for accountability and concerns over erasing unproven claims and creative history.
This is becoming a problem with over arching site staff/admins so quick to pull a trigger and distance themselves from anyone when anything like this comes up.
A lawyer will tell you to stfu and not shoot yourself in the foot online by opening your mouth when stuff like this happens.
Tom hit the nuke button because some guy stayed quie about some shit that happened over ten years ago.
I liked Tom for having a cool independent website, but after WEBP-ing uploaded files, throwing up a credit card block for teen rated submissions, needing to make an account to view old adult flashes that were fine before, this is the last straw with him. You dont destroys a mans work like this. Fuck Fulp.
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the internet should've continued being something only for for autistic nerds and bored college kids. half of the "people" on the internet nowadays aren't even people, they're bots and astroturfers who get paid by dozens of different competing organizations to run psyops because so many people nowadays take the internet super seriously and get all of their opinions from social media. we couldn't even get a cool cyberpunk dystopia, we got a shitty lame cyberpunk dystopia that has the downsides without the upsides.
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>>155779912
The malfoid trend is the most forced, astroturfed garbage I've seen in years. I don't even hate Harry Potter, but nothing about that shit was organic. It was an obvious attempt at advertising the HBO show.
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>>155775865
You have to like Oneyplays to care about this

>>155775680
Who cares, just use whatever site gets you the most attention or make your own
Instagram and Twitter don't pay me shit but Pixiv and Newgrounds net's me followers that aren't just bots
>Get a Twitter account to keep up with the trends the cool kids keep making
>Get a Blusky for when the fags on Twitter are getting to faggy but you still want the attention that comes from social media
>Get a DA because everyone's still there regardless of what they say
>Get a Pixiv and a Newgrounds because they function well enough and will net you consistent followers
>Get an Artstation if you think you're good enough
>Get a Baraag if you want to run in certain circles without disturbance
>Get a Tumblr because it never actually went away
>Get a FA because a lot of people actually use it for more than just porn
>Get a Cara because it's an art hosting site that doesn't allow AiSlop
It's simply, use what you can
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>>155783565
I remember when he fought back against public backlash criticizing him for making a Columbine school shooter game. Now he bends and spreads for random YouTube whores. Guy has become a boomer.
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>>155784772
>astroturfed
People just say this shit about anything they don't like. You really think it takes a marketing team to get artists invested in the idea of a hot, bitchy, questionably-legal blonde girl?

>>155777034
>>155785054
It's not too late to kill yourself.
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>>155783814
Smartphones were a mistake, in less than 20 years they turned the internet to shit.

>>155784970
>get asked to provide an ID on each one in the coming future
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>>155783814
>so many people nowadays take the internet super seriously and get all of their opinions from social media.
this is what pisses me off the most
you can tell that people don't form their own opinions anymore from their own experiences
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Whilst AI led art websites are crap(pier than they used to be), the other ones who don't like AI are barely holding onto their identity or have forgotten it.
It's like how, even if you destroyed AI on youtube and banned all the traditional media accounts, you still have millions of indian accounts and the white people have been disfigured until they are mere shadows of their former selves which they hate or never knew the beforetimes, and I'm not talking Canon in D Guitar and cat videos, I'm talking Minecraft is the game every let's player plays, that's how bad it is.

>>155776246
>Forest is filled with ticks and they give you dick-falling-off-diseases

>>155782310
You're dropping 10-30k per month on hosting a decently sized art website, apparently, and that's before finding volunteers to run it or grifters show up

>>155785227
>ID
I think I remember a lot of dystopias saying your ID is your life
I don't think I remember cyberpunk dystopias saying your credit card is your life, instead most of them act like your bank account is some free floating inviolable existence
How gay the future is
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>>155775680
Pixiv?
>inb4 is crap
Just make your own blog
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>>155776458
Whenever I comment on an artists work, I get nothing in response. Not even a thank you.
Its like...why make a comment at that point.
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>>155782907
The only solution is to become genuine to a fatal degree



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