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what do you think about venom MJ?
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Trash.
Should've been Carol.
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>>155863716
She reminds me of those sexy furry bug lesbian oc’s you see on tumblr.
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I don't.
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>>155863716
I like the look but I don't like that it's MJ. I don't hate MJ, I just prefer her without powers.
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>>155863716
It’s over but I like she kept the golden anti-carnage part for herself.
MJ can rock a skintight suit.
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>>155863716
>No Sexy Lady Venom for the majority of the run. Probably held off for the reveal to Peter.
>Extended the Paul drama then made things Worse with venom 258
>No serious development between MJ and Dylan. Loss of Dylans Mother then MJs daughter and "Children", huge wasted potential for a deep connection.
This is the big one for me, especially in QIB when they tried to play it off like she actually gives a fuck about him.
> Using Flash as a romantic Heel was not the smartest move, Payoffs in Deaths Spiral were hampered because of this and made reading the event cringe worthy..
Originally I think Flashes inclusion had more to do with having a juxtaposition with Paul during ANV.

I love the Gomez art, but overall it was a frustrating experience and not very enjoyable
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i dont think about it at all.
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>>155863943
She really needed more of this
Slutty MJ using symbiote to be even more slutty would have been kino
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>>155864095
She still has the golden toothy symbiote leftover.
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>>155863774
I feel the exact opposite. MJ with powers is good for an arc/saga not permanently. But the design/costume? Utter shit. Ugh.
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>>155863716
MJ alter egos ranked from best to worst are
>MJ possessed by Red Sonja
>MJ in the Iron Spider suit
>MJ cosplaying as BlackCat
>MJ is a MILF spider themed hero called Spinnerette (technically AU but I'm counting it anyways.)
>MJ is VenoMJ
>anything anything else I missed
>ASM #64 MJ gets a perm
>Jackpot
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>>155864356
Do you count Spider-Gwen’s Universe MJ as Carnage Queen?
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>>155864356
Spinneret is number 1
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>>155864356
If they’re dropping the Venom thing they should just lean into her being Marvel’s Jimmy Olsen. The redhead that gets random powers every other day.
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>>155864757
I mean at least with Spinnerette she's kind of a off shoot of 616 MJ where as 65 carnage MJ is a completely different character. If I include her then I have to include Insomniac MJ being scream and ultimate tv MJ also being Venom and Hydro clone MJ from the 90s tv show.
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Biggest example of wasted potential in comics in recent memory.
Holy shit what a mess. All priorities completely skewed.

Things that should have been front and centre like the actual relationship and conflict between MJ, her trauma and the Other are effectively resolved in a single issue with MJ pooh poohing the Other as Eddie gets scapegoated like the Other was completely blameless, and MJ wouldn't be in pieces over these circumstances and (being recently disintegrating).
Paulshit somehow both out of focus and the black hole sucking in all air. MJ's relationship with him treated as a joke, and also somehow a trauma bond, pick a lane Ewing. There was absolutely no catharsis allowed for the audience years into this sunk hole, the Symbiote allowing MJ to reevaluate the relationship and kick this techbro to the curb with real vitriol was right fucking there. Instead it's treated as some burnt out fling in complete denial of everything wrong with Dead Language. Venom 258 is just the audience being insulted for ever having any hope for the Paul saga having any kind of catharsis, or MJ showing any real remorse for Peter who falls over himself to forgive obscene things said that are never addressed because Ewing hasn't an answer.
Paul got to have more of a relationships with Dylan than MJ, which meant QIB and her allusions to a relationship looked ridiculous. So many relationships are told not shown or given weight.

We could have had yandere VenoMJ but Marvel doesn't know how to sell what actually sells.
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>>155866407
You act like Paul did something wrong. Or that MJ owes Peter an apology,

Paul never mind controlled MJ. Stop being an incel anon. MJ left Peter because she was stuck on that world for 4 years with no signs of being rescued.so she started surviving and fucking the only other man there, Paul.

That’s not slutty behavior or a betrayal. That’s what life dealt to her.
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>>155866484
MJ treated Peter like a leper upon being rescued, saying things she would never say to Peter because Wells wrote a mystery box and had no idea what to put inside. So he had nothing, and MJ comes off like she joined a cult.
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>>155866512
MJ lived in that other world for 4 years. She had every right to be mad. It took a while for it to sink in that time passed differently where she was, once she returned home.
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>>155866484
She had a magic spell cast on her meant to bind her to the fake kids. the writers have left enough bread crumbs and provided contradictory information for this to read in a certain way. You an intentionally obtuse take of the situation.
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>>155866608
Mad why? Peter dropped everything and burnt every bridge to bring her back?
Paul killed a world by exploiting and neglecting his mentally unwell father, he throws money at the alternative people of another earth thinking that helps things. He gets MJ to wear the bracelet and endanger himself because he doesn't actually show remorse in any meaningful way. He is the kind of man MJ wouldn't be with even if she had no other choice, if she was being written as anyone other than Wells expy of his ex-wife.
>sounds familiar?
This is the probably the worst thing she has ever said to him in canon.
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>>155866621
Hello Avengers #200.
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>>155866621
Paul did nothing wrong. You’re thinking of his father Rabin.
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>>155866754
His first impulse was to try and leave the kids to their fate anon.
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>>155866484
>>155866608
Zeb Wells doing a mystery box of "what Peter do?" and having everyone act out of character just to shit on Peter or acting like if Peter was morally compromised only for the reveal that he took tech from the F4 and with help of Norman Osborn they bulit a suit in order to get MJ back from Paul's dimension. This makes all Peter's allies look like a massive assholes for no fucking reason and it's outrageous with the Fantastic Four and Captain America because they wouldn't have any issue with helping Peter, also MJ in particular looks like a massive cunt for treating Peter like shit after he did everything he could in order to save her without mention she left Peter for the guy who helped in the genocide of his own world. Another thing the story tried so hard to pretend Paul did nothing wrong and they had MJ saying that Paul's role in genocide of his world was on the same level as Peter not stopping Uncle Ben's killer when he could was utterly insane because everyone with two braincells can see that is bullshit and MJ is a retard for saying that.
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>>155866720
I didn't write the book bubba. Magic, Memory manipulation, and mind alteration/control exist in 616. MJ getting manipulated and raped is more believable than not leaving Paul and seeking peter out after the Kids disappeared. Just because you and ! know rape is bad doesn't mean it shouldn't be explored in a story. Anyone advocating that Paul should be normalized as a legitimate life development needs to have their internet history reviewed.
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>>155867049
Anon I was agreeing with you, they did an Avengers #200 sequel then back-pedalled the fuck away, sacrificing MJ's character rather than own up to what their Mystery Box opened.
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>>155863716
Pointless, worthless, will be forgotten in less than a year. All the while they will try to give her a new gimmick, that nobody will fuckin care about.
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>>155867037
Classic MJ would have rather chewed glass than bring up Peters trauma to win an argument.
I miss her.
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>>155863716
Wasted Potential. You can tell Ewing had no interest in writing MJ as Venom at all because even in Renew Your Vows used MJ with the symbiote better.
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>>155866484
>You act like Paul did something wrong.
Genocide
>Or that MJ owes Peter an apology,
Yes, obviously?
>HOW DARE YOU CARE ABOUT ME AND SAVE ME FROM DESOLATED PLANET. FUCK OF PETER, IM SUCKING DICK OF THIS RANDOM MANBUN GUY
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>>155866407
Honestly, I disagree on the paul point. If it were the symbiote that gave MJ the perspective and strength to leave paul then it wouldnt really have been MJ who left paul, it would have been Venom. Doing that is basically admitting that MJ isnt worthy of peter.
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>>155867049
>Magic, Memory manipulation, and mind alteration/control exist in 616

Right? MJ was literally mind raped by moira at the Karkoa Gala. Is it more acceptable because it was a woman? They didn't do this with Paul because the needed to validate Zeb Wells, remain non committal about any of this, and to keep her away from Peter because they Hate having to right her.

If it was a valid life development why did they mention trauma bonding when she and Paul broke up. if they want me to take any of their choices seriously why fuck up Paul not telling MJ about the time Dilation.
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>>155867057
Sorry anon.
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>>155867146
As is we don't really have MJ's journey of introspection on why she came to terms with the decision to leave Paul, we see a bunch of allusions and a couple of speech bubbles off panel. Then the band-aid on this sepsis wound is ripped off and that's that.
Ewing barely gave MJ any introspection at all, her thoughts and motivations are a mystery for much of the run because its the Other speaking for most of it.

>>155867154
All good anon.
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>>155863716
All they needed has to have VenoMJ flirt with Peter and blame it on Venom for some fun shenanigans but the utterly incompetent office couldn't even do it
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>>155867335
No fun.
Only dumb shit.
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>>155863716
>venom MJ
think i did the right thing dropping comics in 2016
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>>155867536
There's been good stuff, but not really in the Big 2, and certainly not from Marvel.
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>>155863716
On;y in comics can you have abuser forming a team with their victim.
>Norman/Peter
>Venom/MJ

Imagine if Ted Bundy was starting a foundation with all his victims. I bet that would go well with the public.
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>>155867578
It's the hack cycle for memoryholing, undermining and cannibalizing previous trauma and drama to sell covers and controversy.
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>>155867578
ragebait sells comics, theoretically
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>>155867602
Until something that has something of actual substance comes and actually stress-tests the status quo with an alternative.
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>>155867602
Does it?
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>>155867628
theoretically
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>>155867644
But in practice?
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>>155863716
Lame.
Stop trying to make MJ relevant outside of Spider-man stories, idiots.
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>>155863716
I liked it better when she was huge and muscular. The contrast between normal woman and giant creature was fun.

The run itself was probably the worst thing Al Ewing ever wrote.
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>>155867679
Oh, definitely not. Pissing off your own readers has never sold comics, never sold anything really. People don't like paying money to be angry. Ragebait only works if it's free.
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>>155867628
According to Brevoort yes.
According to Market Share and Morbius, no.
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>>155867037
Maybe because I’m used to Marvel already doing that a decade ago with Cyclops, the Peter/MJ/Paul situation wasn’t shocking to me.
It’s just how Marvel does it to their protagonist to get the status quos they want.
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>>155868543
May I ask if you still read Marvel? If you've caught on to their usual tricks in lieu of substance.
For me, it's just shitposting in reply, because all I get from Spoffice is shitposting.
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MJ just doesn't work outside of being Spiderman's girlfriend.
I think they should give her Spidey-Sense and just leave it at that.
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>>155868606
I read Miles Morales, and Moon Knight
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>>155863716
I feel like it should be way hotter but somehow it's almost sexless
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>>155868748
It was given to her at the worst possible time.
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>>155867495
Sadly, the whole point of Death Spiral wasn't for any kind of reconciliation, it was to drive another wedge between them. They received backlash and changed the end of QIB that's why it was delayed. Its also why 1000 was delayed, why they had to grudgingly do the anniversary issue.

They are deviant goblins that sold the comic Using Peter and MJ and then spit in my face and threw flash in our faces.
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>>155868748
She’s no longer VenoMJ and has a newer sleeker symbiote called Fang made of anti-carnage.
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>>155869456
They are sacrificing another female writer to the cornfield it seems, even the filler arc that this next mini is going to be has been shotgunned from the start by the bizarre circumstances that Spoffice won't address honestly. If they actually go full Brevoort enrage to engage continued Flash teasing or godforbid Tony then it's another lost arc.
MJ, go into a room and have a cry, a real moment of emotion that isn't glossed over. You've been holding shit in since Dead Language clearly and they it's like a broken bone that hasn't been allowed to set and heal properly because they don't talk about it, just sweep it.

>>155869488
If they are naming it, then it's not going away anytime soon. Great another damn Symbiote.
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>>155869572
>full Brevoort enrage to engage
I think they've long since realized that 'enrage to engage' as a concept doesn't work anymore, they're just doing it because they want to distance MJ from Peter even more
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>>155869488
>>155869572
This is one of the reasons she’s hanging out with Flash.
Her symbiote is suppose to be more non-Klyntar sentient, like Flash’s Anti-Venom and Andi Benton’s Silence.
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>>155868543
Yeah, Cyclops had it rough because during The Inhumans push and Avengers vs X-Men ended up turning him into omega mutant hitler and he was trapped in Marvel cuckshed for years.
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>>155869662
And he literally did nothing wrong. It was the Inhumans with their death cloud.
And Marvel still won’t admit they fucked up with that years later.
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>>155869662
>>155869688
Yeah I was about to ask if that was a nothingburger also.
Maybe they should have a fucking clue before they set these big weighty mystery boxes?
Are mystery boxes one of the biggest red flags for hack writing?
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>>155869730
I’m sure Star Wars fans would agree.
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>>155869629
Why would that require her hanging out with Flash? It would be more interesting and dramatic, for her to figure it out on her own.
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>>155863716
I didn't hate the first four(ish) issues that was playing whodunnit with a bunch of characters who it wasn't. Then the answer to the question was somehow worse than any of the provided answers, so well done to Ewing for somehow jumping over my low expectations to disappoint me again.
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>>155869779
MJ barely interacted with the Other properly, it'll all get into the Flash issue where he shows her the ropes like she wasn't just Venom and gets glazed whilst going after Chameleon, in a fashion that is significantly less impressive when she was doing it all on her own. It looks like each mini will be MJ with some other cast member of ASM, but not her own family which is a real issue.
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>>155869846
Looks like a rather dull affair, so to speak.
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>>155863716
Id actually think this was sexier if it wasn't MJ
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>>155870059
Everything that allowed Amazing Mary Jane to sell and shine prior to covid has been undermined, and it isn't allowed to address or give the things the crowd actually want.
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>>155867495
I want to murder all the faggots who actually like the soap opera gay shit in marvel comics
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>>155863716
Eh forgettable Flash Thompson as Agent Venom was better.
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>>155870314
The problem was Flash immediately had his cool, even in a stupid mid-00's way, design for Venom while they kept OP's design from us for most of her run, and then as soon as it came out they ended it. Even Mania immediately had a standout design.

Doesn't help that most of her issues were also dealing with the cold left overs of all that stupid Paul nonsense, fucking Eddie Brock's kid, and then two dumb-ass, waste of time events.

Just completely pointless wheelspinning. Now that all that shit is done, she's also not Venom any more and they're trying to sell her by having Iron Man show up. Iron Man! Who gives a fuck? They've sold us nothing in terms of what the actual issues will be about.
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>>155870413
Sonic?
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>>155870262
Can't even be mass appeal soap opera.
It's a bunch of loose thread rageb8 that doesn't have any catharsis, your average telenovella at least knows to let Peter and MJ emote like Humans.

>>155870413
I love how they are still trying to sell the Iron Man connection like it was anything but Bendis picking up this character they weren't using, and then in-universe she's basically just a gopher who leaves off-panel. And compares him to her drunk dad.
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>>155870429
What makes you say that?
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>>155871436
Peeeuuurrrrmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>155863716
I genuinely hate MJ as a character, and I hate everything related to her.
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>>155873911
Why do you hate her? She doesn't add anything to the ip? You dont buy her character development?
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>>155873911
>>155873988
Don't bother man. Nigga showed up to a thread they hated and posted that they hated it. It's just gonna dumbass schizo nonsense that is easily disproven but then they're gonna argue in circles like a retard or misinterpret basic shit.
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>>155873911
We know Lowe.
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>>155873988
Genuinely what has post-OMD mary jane done for peter? She is some deranged psychotic bitch who happens to share a name and face with a woman that he once loved.
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Kinda miss when her career was a thing.
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>>155875147
Yeah anyone is free to loath post-OMD MJ as a weird Golem thing the BND team that have disdain for her, write as they see her.
To me she's effectively a different character, you need to just seperate them in your mind and treat #500 as the actual ending of ASM. Everything after is especially bad fanfiction, that just happens to have copyright blessing.

>>155875190
It's 'back' but still got that weird BND holdover where they frown on being a model etc, so now she's a producer.
Has she ever had the desire to produce or direct before? This is different to being an actor, wholly different skill-set. you can't just switch out a hat.
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>>155863716
she kinda baaaaad
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>>155873911
Good. MJ is not for incels like you.
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>>155863716
Venom's host is Eddie in Marvel Rivals. Try egarnac/fang.
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>>155863716
nobody cares about that whore.
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>>155877562
Instead of posting that panel maybe you want to tell us about your girl cheating on you. Its ok, we are all bros here. Let it out.
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>>155877562
Wells... she never cheated on you...
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>>155877562
Damn. Paul is a total chad here. No wonder MJ left Peter for him.
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>>155878333
It's funny because of exactly how true that statement is
Wells's run introduces this gigachad CEO that has his life put together and is far and away the better life partner for MJ, the model and actress. Everyone loves him and believes he can do no wrong and say that Peter was always the problem and they're glad MJ is doing okay now. Not a single soul thinks anything is weird
MJ is turned into a shallow prize to be fought over that's cold and distant towards Peter and just wants to safeguard her life with Paul and their children
At no point did anyone think this arc through and that's even with clear plot changes throughout the run
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>>155863716
looks like a phoenix not venom
dumb lowe effort deisgn
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>>155878458
Is Paul a superior partner compared to Peter? If so, why did MJ break up with him
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>>155878458
MJ lived her living nightmare and it's not commented on because the office doesn't want to come to terms with how unbelievably shit their output for this character has been for a decade. Arguably two.
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>>155878710
>superior partner

>Next comic book idea: SUPERIOR PARTNERS FOR MARY JANE
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>>155878710
MJ suddenly had PTSD and was trauma bonding despite none of that ever once being shown to the readers
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>>155878710
Reminder that she only broke up with Paul because "this relationship is not working", zero thoughts or regrets about Peter and what she did to him.
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>>155863716
>what do you think about venom MJ?
Better question how do MJ fans feel about the marriage bein gone for good here you go thread enjoy.

>>155879184
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>>155878753

Midnight PAUL!!!
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I feel like I got monkey’s paw’d pretty hard. Is it too much to ask for alien goo adventures with hot monster ladies?
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>>155879408
Yes.
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>>155879373
...I hate that I laught at this.
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>>155879284
I think a disagreement between fans and marvel about how to handle this very issue is why she was made venom and why ewing dragged out the Paul bullshit.
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So, seems like MJ appears in 1001 and has an actual positive interaction with Peter.
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>>155879583
I love how just not being awful to Peter is the new high standard for Kelly.
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>>155879658
It's 2 pages and ends with a genuine hug. Kelly's trying to make it up for Death Spiral.
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>>155866827
And if he had done that with Dylan the ingrate, he'd still be legally alive, and not living a luxurious life in sunny Acapulco under the identity of his conveniently heretofore unmentioned identical twin brother Luap Rabin. So it actually worked out pretty well for him, all things considered.
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>>155879778
Torment was such a terrible villain. Nothing but endless speeches about “muh spirals” and a bunch of hollow kills that failed to raise the stakes at all. Also, Shocker being distantly related to MJ is such a weird reveal. At least he solved the Paul problem.

>>155879415
Shit like this makes me want to make my own adventures of an uncomfortably hot alien goo lady. I haven’t done test polls, but I’m guessing audiences would respond more positively to that as opposed to an evil cousin with unexplained powers showing up after 999 issues.
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>>155879583
someone leak please and thank you :)
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>>155879373
>>155879492
Samefag retard who is a schizo that thinks anyone will stop going to these threads because he posted faggot edits. NGMI...
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>>155863716
Concept is the most solid idea for hero mj. But outside of 2 issues never really played with its potential. Design kinda wasted some opporunites, even if the final one looked good. Ended too fast. But good comm ammo. And something i can see being used better in an au.
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>>155881074
Comm ammo only if it doesn't have any of the ANV shit like gold color scheme, the horrid symbol, or normal MJ hair sticking out. Ugh.
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>>155880921
Here you go, anonie
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>>155881216
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>>155881203
Nah, i like the gold still. Still, i do like it and fan takes on it.
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>>155881216
>>155881239
How arent peter fans tired of this constant baiting shit, how can they trust the writers not to do some other stupid nonsense to drive them apart again or have mj fuck some other dude again etc. Seriously asking, is this meant to be like a "for real this time" take or could the writers just spawn another paul in when you least expect it for soap drama

is anyone even happy with peter getting with mj at this point
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>>155881318
The promise of peter and mj being married made USM #1 sell the most copies a marvel comic has since star wars #1...so yeah?
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>>155881239
I have about had enough of MJ you simply don't when to let go do you? it's time you were taken down as peg. you are not getting back the marriage
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>>155881454
fuck off
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>>155881454
So do you trust marvel to actually let their relationship progress again untouched? Or have you accepter that more soap opera will they wont they bullshit is inevitable with peter and mj
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I never cared for MJ given how much she has been character assassinatied I am glad I never did. At any rate this where it ends I am sick of the subject OMD and most of all I am sick of you MJ fans.
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>>155881475
>>155881519
>>155881532
>>155881541
Fuck off Dan, you've tried and failed to bring back this dead tranny whore countless times and every single one has failed. We'll get the marriage back but you'll never get the real gwen back, just cheap rip offs while her corpse rots in the ground.
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>>155881611
piss off better yet just shut the fuck up.
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>>155881626
Yea and we're sick of you too dan, once retard writers like you die off we can finally work on forgetting about you.
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>>155881626
Better kill yourself to avoid it.
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Posted in the other thread, but spoilers from ASM #1001. Was gonna make my own thread but felt like we didn't need three MJ threads.
>1/2
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>WAHHHH!!! WHY DO YOU GUYS LIKE MJ!?!? SHE'S A WHORE!!! WAAAHHHHHH!!!
Meanwhile:
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>>155881763
>2/2
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>>155881239
Thanks Anon. Have some kek.
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>>155881642
answer the question nigger, or keep your head 6ft in the sand and shut the fuck up, I've been wanting a peter mj marriage since you were sucking your granny's tits
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>>155881763
>>155881786
Oops I didn't see these were posted. My bad.

>>155881239
>>155881313
Love to see it. At least no one can call her a cold bitch for not showing up, for once. And they managed to not have her like, showing up holding Flash's hand, like Wells would have done with Paul.
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>>155881636
No you won't they didn't lose their memories of being married. The deal with Mephisto made it so that they never got married. He changed the pass so that the wedding never took place. So there will be no restoring of memories of them being married since it never happened.

And as for Gwen staying dead you could be very much about that. My money is on marvel doing a sequel to OMD. Oh yes peter will make another deal with mephistio not realizing he made a deal with him before. And how does the deal end you ask? simple Gwen Stacy death is undone in short the past gets changed so it turns out she did not die and she still peter's girfriend. Why do such a thing well they are several reasons first of all having gwen as peter's girfriend is not the same as him being married. Secondly thanks to this they can keep the rivalry between MJ and gwen going for long long time. it's like betty and veronica always fighting between each for peter's affections but neither of them ever winning. And thirdly thanks to this they get new younger audiences to read about him.
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>>155881216
is this Pepes MJ? HOLY HOTNESS!!!
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>>155881854
the bar is in hell
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>>155881939
It really is, a fucking hug after a stroke and we're already off to the new thing.
How is it comics are decompressed but none of the Human elements are given room to BREATHE like they used to?
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>>155881611
Just saying, people still like it.
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>>155881986
fuck off
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>>155881861
>They can't undo their marriage being destroyed but they can bring back a character who's been for decades
>Peter should just make another deal with the devil
>We should even further regress the character to the point we're recycling love triangle plot points from 40+ years ago.
No, you fucking retard. Fans actually lile MJ and no one cares about about gwen. MJ and peter will get back together but your gay little fan fiction will never come true, simply because gwen isn't popular enough. Cope, seethe, and write another essay about it.
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>>155881763
>>155881786
Thanks for making tomroows storytime of ASM #1001 pointless we won't be making due to this. since it would be a waste of 4chan resources.
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MUH GWEEEEEEEN
She's a basic blonde who had three personalities when alive, then died and became too angelic (in post) to actually be used when alive. She's not coming back. Period.
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>>155881313
Ugh...
Looks awful, m8. But oh well.
>>155881636
>>155881861
This is just resident pedophilic, ban-evading, faggot retard Gwenchizo. But who knows maybe it is Slott. Jarvis and Jannies, stomp this fag's skull in with steel-toed boots.
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>>155882039
>>They can't undo their marriage being destroyed but they can bring back a character who's been for decades
that's what they want to do really having Gwen brought back would setup a never ending rivarly between MJ and Gwen for peter and that's why they will do it sooner or later for sure.
>>Peter should just make another deal with the devil
>>We should even further regress the character to the point we're recycling love triangle plot points from 40+ years ago.
>No, you fucking retard. Fans actually lile MJ and no one cares about about gwen. MJ and peter will get back together but your gay little fan fiction will never come true, simply because gwen isn't popular enough. Cope, seethe, and write another essay about it.
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>>155882108
>This is just resident pedophilic, ban-evading, faggot retard Gwenchizo. But who knows maybe it is Slott. Jarvis and Jannies, stomp this fag's skull in with steel-toed boots.
you are no getting back the marraige back MJ fans.
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>>155882054
>She's a basic blonde who had three personalities when alive, then died and became too angelic (in post) to actually be used when alive. She's not coming back. Period.
hahaha oh yes she will you poor fool you have no idea what's in store for you next do you? But I do anon haahaha you lose hahahah
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>>155882132
Ah so your translator is set to retardspeak? Ok how is this?
>YOUTH ARETH NOTH GETTINGTH BACKTH THETH MARRIAGETH BACKTH MJTH FANSTHS
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>>155882111
>that's what they want to do really having Gwen brought back would setup a never ending rivarly between MJ and Gwen for peter and that's why they will do it sooner or later for sure.
No, literally no one wants this but you and zoomers don't care about gwen. You tried to make them with spider gwen and not even that worked, they won't care about her being peters new gf either. Everyone hated omd but you dan, literally not one person wants this but you. No one cares about your autistic jewish fanfiction.
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>>155882173
Why are you repeating the same threat that prison rapist said to you last night? You're not gonna go through with your threat compared to the rapist.
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>>155881786
Thanks for the posts guys! But where is the rest of the panel? Uh oh. Does open his eyes and see Flash right behind her?
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>>155882201
Spam gets one banned retard bye anon you won't be missed.
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>>155863716
Give my boy Carnage beautiful red hair and forget all about this.
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>>155881786
And then she morphs into eddie brock or harry osborn who says
>Gotcha
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Can MJ just be Gwen'd and we can try for a third time with someone new.
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>>155881986
that wasn't the question, you can like someone handing you a bag of candy, would you like them ripping it out your hand and slapping you randomly a minute later? then trying to give it back and taking it again? 3 more times? 5?
Do you believe they won't take it away again, smacking you, and youll enjoy candy for good this time, or have you accepted this dynamic as the status quo, anytime you're given the bag of candy you happily snack away knowing a smack is coming and the bag is getting taken
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>>155882179
>No, literally no one wants this but you and zoomers don't care about gwen
lol exepct marvel editoral of course and since they cal the shots well you are doomed,
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>>155882224
Kek. Still here. The same could be said about your spam of MUH GWEN, the whore of Babylon.
>>155882315
That would require talent and effort. Marvel has neither.
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>>155882315
>Can MJ just be Gwen'd and we can try for a third time with someone new.
Marvel would just repeat the same process.
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>>155882334
Hey remember when you ate 500 tons of shit? That was crazy.
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>>155882324
I am saying, just a book with that premise did that well AFTER wells, you overstimate how much people care that it will be taken away later.
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>>155881763
>>155881786
At least she cares for him as a close friend.
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>>155882251
Remember when they did those Carnage anthologies? Imagine a new short story where he preys upon women that are too into romantasy books and shows up with Fabio-tier hair and strings them along by playing the damaged, pitiable monster before springing the trap on ‘em.
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>>155882334
Lol, so why haven't they yet? They already had a million gwen variants but not one is here today except spider-gwen and she loses more relevance every day. Cope more dan, no one cares about that dead tranny anymore and all the seething in the world won't change a thing.
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>>155882466
Gwen going through her own humiliation ritual, going to school with sprogs and then calling this universes killer cool.
Everything in 616 is so fucked up.
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Has MJ been held accountable for dropping that one guy from the roof to his death yet?
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>>155882507
Nope, and don't expect her to be
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Reeks of desperation and trying to do ANYTHING to make it so Peter and MJ can't be together.
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>>155882507
She announced potentially going to jail to the Avengers in QIB and it's glossed over. They don't care nor flag it to investigate.
I doubt it will be mentioned in the upcoming mini, a paragraph at most.
Just a dumb conclusion to an especially dumb event. It don't matter, it's going to be like Emma sexually assaulting that crowd of protesters, only you the reader lose for thinking shit like this has consequences.
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>>155882507
Women and accountability.
You can only choose one.
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>>155882568
You people are retards
Marvel makes bank on keeping them apart because morons buy up bullshit when they're together
It's one of the smartest things they've done
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>idea thats been in fanatics for decades
>happens during the one era that marvel is stalwartly refusing to allow her and spidey to be together, squandering every single interaction to justify how dumb it is
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>>155882771
the dumb cunts in this very thread and on reddit basedjaking over 2 fucking panels of mj walking up and hugging peter really hammers in your point
When idiots keep celebrating crumbs, marvel will never have a reason to give us some cake
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>>155882771
Yeah, they make bank by having their huge milestone issue 1000 sell less than a random issue of Absolute Batman. I hope Disney is paying attention.
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>>155882771
No they fucking dont, sales are in the toilet
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>>155882816
That was more Kelly's doing and years of burnout from ASM being bad-mid.
Kelly set up a whole-ass villain story that's basically cribbing everything from Ben's bullshit with taking over Peter's life and thinks that's a story worth writing about for the 1000th issues
Something that's been done 50 times before
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>billion dollar movie
>can't even regularly be top 5
lmao ASM
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>>155882964
Spider-Man as a brand has long outgrown the comics
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>>155882466
anon you are a idiot they are simply bidding their time. Frist hey had to ruin MJ beyond repair. Now that goal has been reached there is nothing preventing them doing the sequel to OMD. The signs and hints are clear eveything indicates peter wiill have encounter with Mephisto soon and when he does he will make another deal with him you will soon see what i have said to become canon the past is about to be changed yet agan.
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>>155882902
Yeah, editors are supposed to stop that from happening. Weird how bad stories that nobody likes keep getting published over and over again and the guy in charge of Spider-Man is still employed.
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>>155882980
The comics are the retarded black sheep of the IP.
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>>155883001
Lowe and the BND crew are the embodiment of cronyism, and the Disney-buxx means there is no consequences for being shit.
Up until you are so shit that you lose your top position of market share despite having every advantage, when you're no longer #1 suddenly the eye of sauron is on you.
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>>155883023
If Lowe gets projectile shit on by someone lobbing gorilla shit at him, would this be canon to the 616? Just asking because this thread is already retarded and filled with obvious statements mixed with retarded nonsense.
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>>155882964
No, you see, the purposefully ended the best selling Spider-Man comic in order to make that sweet, sweet collected edition money. You gotta get on Editorials level, they're operating on a completely different paradigm him.
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>>155883041
>>155883052
Spam and off-topic. Jannies, I request steel-toed boots, a katana, a vat of acid, dissection kit, a liquifier, a gas chamber, fried chicken grease, a catapult that launches people into the sun, a wok, a blender, and whatever else.
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Skirts and dresses do nothing for me, hotpants and jeans do.
It is on this enlightened basis Gwen has always bored me and MJ is better.
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>>155883058
>>155883059
fuck off
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>>155883080
>Spam and off-topic. Jannies, I req
no it's not this a spider-man thread,
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>>155883081
>Skirts and dresses do nothing for me, hotpants and jeans do.
>It is on this enlightened basis Gwen has always bored me and MJ is better.
you have shitaste wehen it comes to clothes.
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>>155883138
What's shitaste wehen?
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>>155883138
Silence corpse botherer.
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>>155883099
>>155883117
Nope. I have decided this is the gwenschizo curbstomping thread. And I am getting exceedingly effective and efficient at it. Ok now bite down harder this time and maybe your jaw will sever from the back of your neck.
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>>155882982
>Jewish schizo fanfiction
Lol, I already told you it doesn't matter how much you seethe or how many essays you type. It's never gonna happen, you couldn't pull it off in 2016 when they had a million gwen variants, you couldn't do it with spidergwen, you won't pull it off with zombie gwen. She's dead dan, it's time to move on.
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>>155881763
>>155881786
This feels tacked on and not written by Kelly and It was leaked by marvel as an attempt to Prop up sales.

they will shit on this in the same issue or next month with MJs mini.
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>>155883272
lol it will happen anon



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