>obi-wan and anakin
>>155875450What’s the difference here?
>>155875450
>your empire?
>you were my sister nisha! I loved you!
>>155875450uhh
>>155875619This one is autistic >>155875623This one is retarded
>>155875450People are saying Nisha is going to become Avatar Omni-Man
>>155875635>II HAAATEEEE YOUUU !1!1
>>155875450Why does the idea of structural change scare liberals so much?
>>155875860>thinly veiled /pol/baitingFuck off.
>>155875549Saving the world is hero speak. It means restoring the status quo.Fixing the world is villain speak. It means changing the world into the instigator's ideal vision.
>>155875975See >>155875980It’s a valid question
>>155875988It isn't. It's an inflammatory post injecting American politics into an unrelated topic in an attempt to bait other posters into a /pol/ circlejerk about muh left.
>>155875549They don't know. It sounds slightly different enough to make them feel like it's special but it doesn't mean anything.
>>155876021This franchise is inherently political. Korra was pretty much all about politics Mr. thread police.
>>155875571one calls homos faggots and its not the one you think
>>155876042>e-everything is political so I should shit on every thread bringing up retarded american politics to support MY SIDE!!!!!It's like tumblr trannies all over again.
the irony is that the retard keeps replying to the bait despite being so ''smart''
>>155876145I wish Tumblr didn't had the aneurysm it had to block all the pr0n it had, it served as containement for the troons. now its just metastasized everywhere and its all cancer all around
>>155875980>It means restoring the status quoBut that could easily be more fucked up if the status quo is awful.
>>155875549The people who say “Let's fix the world.” actually sometimes improve things, even with imperfect solutions. The people who say “Let's save the world.” never improve things because they are unwilling to use imperfect solutions.
>>155876499>
>>155875980What if the status quo is fucked up?
>>155875549Capeshit has polluted people's minds to thinking that only way to make lasting change is being a tyrant/terrorist. Behind all of the gayness, that is the message of Watchmen. Beating up criminals is Fascism or something.
>>155876206>>155876992Cool it with the antisemitic remarks.
>>155876997The status quo isn’t necessarily worth defending. That’s the issue. And yes fascists use violence to maintain the economic status quo
>>155877006>millions must die... to make room for solar panels
>>155875623
holy fuck the fucking poo in loos found ANOTHER way to ruin something i love
>>155877006Doesn’t everyone do that? I mean it’s either violence or the threat of violence. Litigation is just people talking and papers being filed without someone to enforce verdicts and shit. I mean imagine going to a court and just saying “no I’m not going to pay you” and there was no one to actually make you.
>>155877125blow up the city to create jobs to rebuild the city so we can then blow up the city again
Does anyone have the storyboard stuff from last week? Specifically looking for the scene where Jae is listening on the Chancellor talking to a scientist.
>>155875654Twincest
>>155875860better question, why does Avatar of all fucking things attact retarded armchair extremists? the Marvel and DC universes are still going strong, they are the fucking totem of "status quo good". Go bother them instead of projecting your failed ideologies on a show about spirituality.
>>155875619Boy if only this conversation could actually happen, thanks Korra.
>>155877148Avatar was always Indian, shitlord
>>155877297well the live action movie was
>>155877297is James Cameron's Avatar also Indian?
>>155877359Well, yes.https://in.mashable.com/entertainment/43757/when-james-cameron-said-avatar-was-subconsciously-linked-to-india-i-love-hindu-mythology
>>155875450>>155875654Pavi will have to kill Nisha in the series finale, won't she?
Why is this guy collecting lolis anyway? Pretty sus if you ask me.
JAMBOY
>>155876206>>155876992Then it's clearly fucked up because some dipshit tried to fix it
>>155877633Collecting the infinity stones to do what Ozai wanted to do.
>>155875623>>155875629>>155877127
>>155877428>"I didn't want to reference the Hindu religion so closely, but the subconscious association was interesting, and I hope I haven't offended anyone in doing so."That's creativespeak for "it didn't, but people are going to compare it anyway and accuse me of ripping it off if I say that."
>>155875623>Did they also made porn of you?>They still do
>>155877281What the hell are you talking about? The "status quo isn't good" mindset is like 40 years old in the comic community. Why do you think there are so many comics where butthurt writers turn genuine complaints into a strawman? Manchester Black, several version of Luthor, Vandal Savage and other are used to shit on the idea that heroes should change the world because only villains would do that. Why doesn't Ironman give free energy to everyone? Why doesn't Reed Richards or Bruce Banner give people the cure of every single disease? That only happens in What Ifs where Dr. Doom or other villains kill the heroes. They keep doing this because they can't give people a genuine answer to "why heroes don't improve the world?" Superman, the symbol of hope, doesn't actually inspire people to be better. Batman can't stop crime. Tony Stark and Reed don't share their tech and knowledge to improve the life of the normal people.
>>155877691Why did they hate evil Korra? Why?
>>155878271>Superman, the symbol of hope, doesn't actually inspire people to be better.>Tony Stark and Reed don't share their tech and knowledge to improve the life of the normal people.This isn't entirely true as there are cases of them doing it in the comics. It's just that comics, by definition, need them to fail in stopping evildoers and tragedies permanently, as they need to keep happening for the heroes to have storylines, which is what makes every long-running hero storyline ultimately fruitless. It's not that they never succeed; it's that their victories are undermined by the company forcing them to go back to zero. It's why Spider-Man has to learn to get over himself and fight crime for the 100th time, because his previous progress is undermined by the newest writer.>Batman can't stop crimeDepending on how you see it, this is part of what makes him appealing. He's fighting a pointless fight as massive cope for losing his parents, but he still helps the most he can for an unsalvageable city. His goal is unachievable, but he's doing the best he can until he eventually dies.
Hundreds of African ragebait twitter accounts are getting generational wealth from this.
>>155875450Aren't the speech bubbles switched?
>>155877620i'd nurse the dying nisha back to health and we'd fall in love
>>155878599Explain your reasoning
>>155878628>Anon with his loli Darth Vader Avatar wife
>>155878288They will never know what it was like to fuck her, so the Hate Fuck is incomplete
>>155876997No anon, you're taking one extreme and generalizing it. The same thing happens with the other side, that super heroes are retards because they don't kill their villains, only creating more misery.Capeshit is not at fault in here because 90% of the time it disagrees with the idea of "let's fix the world"
>>155878327>comics, by definition, need them to fail in stopping evildoers and tragedies permanently, as they need to keep happening for the heroes to have storylines, which is what makes every long-running hero storyline ultimately fruitlessThis is my major obstacle in ever becoming invested in capes. I can enjoy the odd self contained story arc, but ultimately the status quo has to be maintained for them to work and it gets old pretty fast when you know the story is never really going to move forward.
>>155875450why are you people seriously watching this garbage
>>155879196to bother you specifically
>>155879196Current teens have shit taste, just look at the Glitch threads that are posted here.
>>155879196it’s an alright watch
>>155879101"It was all just a dream" status quo storytelling.Vs"Power creep" dead end storytelling
>>155875619Peak. Shame it'll never happen because retard ass Korra>>155875623Cringe. Worst avatars back to back
>>155879196Lolicons and yaoifags are a strong alliance
>>155879196why are you mad at people watching shows you weirdo
>>155879196>>155880219lolicons and yurifags aren't watching it, they just check periodically if there's any good porn yet
>>155875980Weird how heroes in cape comic don't want the world to change while villains want the world to change.
>>155876992In that case the lesson is to accept change and the new status quo is fine actually. Like in the depressing Buzz Lightyear movie.
>>155880292>what if bruce wayne just opened a damn factory and got people some jobs?
>>155878271The simple reason is their world is suppose to be like ours but with superheroes going around, their world can only change if ours does first.
>>155879045The 2 reasons why the status quo is maintained in Superhero comics are:1) killing/neutralizing bad guys would just force them to write new bad guys or bring them back2) these superhero settings has to superficially resemble the modern eraThus they become agents of the status quo. Instead of accepting the obvious out-of-universe explanation, people started invent bullshit in-universe explanations to preserve the "immersion", Then Alan Moore makes a comic about how superheroes are retarded and gay; but instead of pointing out the flaws of the industry, he made it about his retarded commie ideas. Now everybody is using their villains to sneak their retard ideas since we keep having this dialectic type conflict where the morally perfect hero beats the objectively evil badguy but hero takes aspect of the villain's beliefs like it is a threat to audience.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNT0gRyKrFU>Sam: Are you still going forward with resetting the borders?>Sam: You have to stop calling them terrorists>Sam: Your Peace Keeping troops, carrying weapons, are forcing millions of people into settlements around the world, right? What do you think those people are going to call you? These labels, terrorists, refugees, thug. They’re often used to get around the question ‘why.’>Sam: I mean, this girl died trying to stop you. And no one has stopped for one second to ask why. You’ve got to do better. Senator, you’ve got to step up because if you don’t, the next Karli will, and you don’t want to see 2.0. People believed in her cause so much that they helped her defy the strongest governments in the world. Why do you think that is? A few people have just as much power as an insane God or misguided teenager. The question you have to ask yourself is how are you going to use it?
>>155880248The problem with modern entertainment.They make stuff for the people that are chronically online, and forget these people don't watch their shows, and if they do, they often pirate it.
>>155875640It’s ironic because she never killed anyone.Her villains killed themselves or were killed by someone else
>>155877125>millions must dieYes. Everyone below the 100 mark.>you're just racist-90 IQ is 90 IQ. Black or white, they can't answer the breakfast question.
>>155875450"Saving" implies rescuing someone from danger in a specific situation. saving them from a fire, a robbery, or a kidnapping."Fixing" implies altering the way things are structured; it means acknowledging that the situation is so bad that a complete overhaul is required.Both approaches can be positive, but "fixing" often entails something more: what do you do about those who claim the situation is fine? What about those who do not believe anything needs to be fixed the way you intend to fix it?
>>155877633based brown loli collector.
>>155880770>Gotta catch them all!
>>155880736saving can also be done to someone who doesnt think it need it.fixing acknowledges that something is broken and can be made better. saving people doesnt necessary mean mending the root cause.the "saver" remove the people from the flooded city before they drown. the "fixer" rework the retension basins and the emergency runoff so that it doesnt happen again. both are useful and necessary.
>>155879196What else is there to watch? Indieslop? lol
>>155877633Indian duh. They're his future wives. When they come of age to bear children safely.
>>155880847The paint dry
>>155875623You'd think Korra would grow out of yearning for recognition after a hundred years. But not according to this fanartist.
>>155879196idiots make fun of bigger idiots but don't realize they're idiots themselves. that's also why they get so defensive, because they know that they're stupidsame goes for the retards that watched lanterns>>155880883watching grass grow is more interesting
>>155875619>>155875623Aww
>>155880582>They make stuff for the people that are chronically online,also i just looks bad, I'm supposed to watch a show cause a gay guy's in it? i see gay guys every night
>>155878224>esl is a coomer
>fix the worldHow so?>save the worldFrom what?
>>155880646she would've killed them if given the chance, she just jobbed every time
>>155875629Those are the ugliest boobs I've seen in a while.
>>155875576>You were the Chosen One, Nisha! It was said you would destroy the evil not join it! Bring balance to the Avatar Cycle not leave it in darkness! You were my sister Nisha… I loved you.>I HATE YOU!!
>>155882467>How so?Undoing what Korra did to skull fuck the world's spirtual balance which set off a world ending chain of events >From what?Whatever spirit world nonsense Korra unleashed after she fucked the world's spiritual balance
Everyone so critical but its not like theres anything else to watch unless you turn to anime.
>>155882539still worth a squeeze
Did you hide it in the moon?
>>155877125Malthusasaur is a ridiculous motherfucker
>>155879196Because while I am a fan of the orignal show, I'm not a close minded nostalgiafag who hates anything new, so I'm giving it a fair chance. And it has cute girls.
>>155883056Did you sink it in the sea?
>>155880692>90 IQ is 90 IQ. Black or white, they can't answer the breakfast question.90 IQ people can absolutely answer the breakfast question. it's not a particularly hard question. Even a lot of mentally disabled people can answer it.
>>155883478I just looked it up that breakfast question and the three followup questions. I get the feeling he made all that shit up because I'm a tested 62 iq and those are just hypotheticals which arent a hard concept to grasp. It doesnt seem like a test related in critical thinking. >"a moms child died. How did she react?">test taker: dunnoThat is a perfectly valid answer. We dont know anything about the mother or the relationship between them.
>>155883212Based
>>155879196Because I'm out of reruns.
>>155882467>How so?End racism.>from what?Nazis.
>>155884618>Nazis.Without them the technology never exists.
>>155877633He only acquired one. It's not his fault his loyal gay squire found a double.
>>155884646What technology?
>>155883212I dread the inevitable timeskip that will rid the show of it's loli protagonists.
>>155884815i cri evrytiem
>>155884799AI Vibecoding
>>155875450>why are there so many Indians in Avatar no- oh.....
>>155883212no you're just a brown skinned retard
>>155875549One's a coward who wants to maintain the status quo, the other is a visionary who wants to make the world better.
>>155885029>There are no villains in this story. There are protagonists and antagonists.What a retarded non-statement. Anyone who actually engages with [artistic mediums of storytelling] use the terms interchangeably.>Look her up>She's worked on two no-name TV shows, one with one episode and another with 13Nepo hire. Disregarding everything.
>>155880292it's for marketing purposes. If the superheroes used their powers to change the world, it would cease to be our world, and therefore less relatable
so is there more loli art of them yet?
>>155876201they would have spread outward regardless. they have a very strange obsession with being in places where they know they are not welcome. they have a victim complex and love to pretend they are being persecuted because they typically tend to be people who were already unlikable in the first place, and this gives them some sort of reason to justify that.
>>155876499>The people who say “Let's save the world.” never improve things because they are unwilling to use imperfect solutions."saving the world" implies there is an objective solution to strive for, which is retarded.
>>155885115Loli artists over the last few years have been persecuted as more and more zoomers/gen alphas turn against them. Soon there won't be any safe communities for them.
>>155884815They're only doing a few years if we are to believe that concept art we've seen.
>>155875654>together we'll be the greatest team there's ever been>Pavi>dreams the way we've planned them>if we work in tandem>there's no fight we cannot win
>>155876997This
>>155875571Bro, what are those building designs?
https://x.com/ToonHive/status/2110142483455693230
>>155878429This
>>155883212I don't like the new art style and character designs.
>>155885086>>155885029This
>>155885242They also don't care about the new Avatar series when they have an infinite supply of lolis in anime.
Indians ruin everything they touch.
>>155879196Damn, you got them good kek
>>155885699Based dubs don't lie
>>155885755Based dubs affirming previous dubs
>>155885029>has no convictions on what is right or wrongIt's such a tiring copout.
>>155885796Certain races insist that reality is subjective and that you can argue anything into reality if you argue it hard enough
I hardly see anyone actually talking about the show. Just some people insulting it without properly explaining what they dislike about it and others saying it’s okay but never explaining what they like about it other than that it has cute girls or yaoi. Sounds like a waste of time to me.
>>155885816>Just some people insulting it without properly explaining what they dislike about it I don't like the new art style, and the animation is mediocre.
>>155885816The writing is bad, the characters don't behave logically, they state what they think and feel, everyone is a Sokka/Bolin, it's a mystery box, it's going to take place in one haven
>>155885816Anon there's nothing to talk about the show. They've shown nothing in over 60 minutes. Other than everybody being brown (that's plenty discussed already so you're blind).
Genuine wonder if they'll have Raava and Vaatu talk directly to Pavi and Nisha.since they haven't revealed either vo.
>>155878940It's Nisha that wants to punch and wrongs in the world, while Pavi prefers to use talk-no-jutsu.
>>155885872I wouldn't call the writing bad. It's noticeably less smooth compared to the original show, but it's overall passable. It isn't super interesting but I'm not cringing while listening to it.
>>155885988>Anon there's nothing to talk about the show. They've shown nothing in over 60 minutes.That's crazy. ATLA's third episode ended with the introduction of the Avatar state. That show had great pacing. In just three episodes it established: >Aang’s trauma and guilt front and center>The Fire Nation as the main threat and Zuko's obsession>Katara and Sokka’s personalities and chemistry with Aang
>>155875450This show must be liberal propaganda in the same way that the twins are like in The Acolyte. These people literally have no new original ideas but political mandates.
>>155884435>62 IQ>fails the test
>>155884618does that mean the bad twin will become a nazi?
>>155884618So without Nazism there is no racism?Even if that was true, there is no Nazi party in the Avatar universe.
>>155875549There weren't skilled enough to come up with one but now you have to act like there is or you're getting called a chud
>>155875450What is wrong with Pavi? She can not talk to bugs or rocks, this is an extended larp and it's weird
>>155875450> Violence is never the answer!> Except for when I had to save an actual bug from... Not being my pet? > But saving innocent human lives? NOOOOOOO! THAT'S EVIL!They somehow made a worse one than Korra
>>155886245I didn't watch that show because I knew it would be horrible but you're probably right Hollywood people don't have ideas they just copy each other
>>155885479Aang had no way of knowing they would happen, it was a surprise attack and in an era of peace and also he was much younger.
>>155886245Lol, you're right that they literally copied that show.
Cute schizo!
>>155886335>extended larp tourist
>>155883212>And it has cute girlsAnyone who says this can be ignored. The characters are ugly. If you find them attractive, it's probably because you relate to them, so i can only assume your a poojeet like them.
>>155886679>ESL accusing anyone of being a jeetlollmao
>>155886689>you used your instead of you're>ESL ESL ESLYou poor thing. Any native English speaker recognizes a typo, it's the insecure ESLs who focus on such frivolous things. You're a poojeet.
>>155886702>ESL has to excuse his ignorance and innate brownnesslmaobeing pressed by CUTE cartoon girlscouldn’t be me desu
>>155886710Whatever you say jeet.
>>155886679Maybe this is more your cup of tea. It's okay to be gay, you know.
>>155875450To be fair, their world is pretty broken on a fundamental level and could use some fixing.
>>155885419Layering AI backgrounds is hard. Cut them some slack
>>155886816Whore
>>155885479>Comes from misogynyNigga are those two retarded? or did they forget that Korra left a damn portal open leading into spirits like Ko the face stealer? Oh wait we can't forget that she actually couldn't even defeat enemies that were weaker than her! Amon I can pass that since we have never seen another like that, but loosing to Unalaq before bonding with Vaatu? nigga you gotta be kidding me, you can't be the avatar if you are that retarded and what frightens me the most is that they will make Korra seem evil or retarded at first but then in one episode they will reveal that she intended to do good but some white straight male prevented her from doing so leading to the cataclysm that leaded to the creation of the seven havens it pisses me off that this is the most probable thing to happen since these two faggots can't acknowledge that Korra was poorly written
>>155886956so the new movie has the new nigga beating team avatar but you all complained about muh powerlevel, muh avatar trying to be JJKher uncle was a master water bender. i think i can buy the fact he gave her trouble a lot more that the Amon shit which felt like fanfic honestly
>>155886773Surely ggit.
>>155887099With Amon blood bending WITH HIS MIND is something that Unalaq couldn't even do, and mind you Unalaq could have learned blood bending but he wasn't as nearly powerful as Amon, Unalaq dominated other techniques that were powerful yeah but not even close to Amon's blood bending mind you without a full moon btw
>>155886816>if you think the pojeets are ugly that must mean you're a faggotThe shill handbook is already so obvious.
I hope they don't turn Pavi or Nisha into kidnap-bait like they over did with Jinora. Feel like she got kidnapped 3 out of 4 seasons.
>>155886956>white straight male The new narrative the Avatar creators are pushing is that there are no white people in their universe, even though we saw plenty of white characters
>>155887182Korra got kidnapped more times, lol.
>>155875549save means you want to return the world to how it was, faults and allfix means you want to change things for the better, whatever it takes the latter is seen as villainous for ideological reasons
>>155887099>her uncle was a master water benderShe was also a waterbending master.
>>155885029oh ffs
>>155885816It's only 3 episodes so it's too early to call it good or bad and whenever I list what I like someone calls me a faggot and if I list what I dislike someone who hates it still wants to start an argument with me.
>>155887181Yes, it does. Sorry you had to find out this way.
>>155886816These two will be a couple by the end of the show, maybe even by the end of the season. Jae's current boyfriend looks like an obvious antagonist that will betray him at the worst time possible. And I want to see this little fag get more screentime.
>>155887393Apparently Bryan already blabbed that Jae/Daemin is endgame but I can't find a clip of it
>>155887393>>155887427He looks annoying. Doesn't respect personal boundaries, a bit rapey. The sort of guy who demands oral sex on his birthday.
>>155887488>guy who likes to grab your ass in public vs. guy who wants to kill your adopted daughterswhich way east asian twink?
>>155875450the correct answer is instead:"Let's FUCK the world." Obviously.
>>1558872793 episodes is more than enough tk decide if a show will be good or not
>>155887572See what I mean
>>155887574I see that you're retarded, yes.
>>155887584No u
>>155887488I can make him worse.>>155887498The correct answer is the gentle daddy who is almost guaranteed to become a main villain or die tragically to teach Pavi and Nisha a lesson.
>>155887604God I wish they could've gotten Mir back for this because all of the men would be marginally hotter
>>155876499Both are still inherently better than >>155885229who just says "The world has problems" but refuses to contribute any solutions or means of improvement because that would make other people happy.
>>155887244Yeah but still despite most of the males being based on the han ethnic group, they will still push that narrative somehow
>>155887604They're not going to make new benders that way...
>>155887687Ellora isn't lacking in kids, benders aren't being born because the spiritual energies are all thrown out of balance.
>>155880292Because often changing the world results in a lot of disruption, chaos, and death. People's lives are thrown out of order, and it's often for the sake of selfishness by the disrupting party.If you want to take two cape settings as an example, the Flash and My Hero Academia. In the Flash Barry/Wally fights superpowered villains who want to kill/destroy/rape/etc. They want to protect the stable status quo that was changed by crazy people with superpowers.In MHA the heroes recognize the villains are being evil because of faults with society, so after they're defeated the heroes spend time working to improve society, preventing situations where new villains would emerge once more. This leads to less work for heroes, so they wind up engaging in various hobbies and interconnecting to pass the time.
>>155887393Not a fag, but would let him suck me.
Judging from the threads and general reception. Show seems like a flop
>>155887894The girls are cute. Too bad the setting sucks
>>155887882Because we all know a dying Mongolian basket weaving forum is the true arbiter of quality
>>155887981Yes, because "general reception" means the reception of this dying website. Goodjob!
>>155887488So he needs some correction. Got it.
>They say she lost the connection with the previous Avatars, but it was her uncle. Aang's people were annihilated and no one blames him for it. Korra is judged differently: I think there's a lot of misogyny and homophobia.
>>155885115I've seen some stuff
>>155888062They're not wrong.
>>155887393That's great, but can we get it without the attached picture? I don't know why artists do this. We can clearly tell who you drew.
>>155888062>They say she lost the connection with the previous Avatars, but it was her uncle.and who decided to trust him just because she was on her period and decided to lash out on her daddy issues? Who thought the whole world was against her, only the guy that affirmed her every action was exempt that turned out to be evil? Who thought it was a good idea to negotiate with a terrorist?She could have prevented all of that if she hadn't been such an emotional mess. And all that happened when she was 17 years old, while Aang did ONE childish mistake as a 12 year old(that couldn't have prevented the genocide anyway) and spend every single episode after that doing the right thing, meanwhile Korra constantly went back to being a bitch.That is the main issue, she never learns
>>155886611>>155887279>>155887894>>155888170pavi LOVE
>>155888062I don't think people would blame Korra as much for the crap the villains do if she actually took her serving of humble pie and made an effort to change and become a better (and more likable) person. She repeatedly falls into the same patterns and makes the same mistakes and tends to just bulldoze her way through things without maturing and becoming the sensible Avatar she should be.Like, the circumstances around the Cataclysm are obviously more murky than they first seem, but on first glance it seems Korra doomed the world in yet another cosmic temper tantrum and people finally had enough of her shit and put her in the ground for it, and that's funny because it's perfectly in-character for her.
>>155885479The audience developed an emotional attachment to the past lives you fucking regards, how are background characters we see in a flashback the same?
When Karthik told Nisha to remember her place I got hard. Yjk they fuck.
>>155888252
>>155888062>>155888124They are in the wrong because they are the writers; they are the ones who killed off all those characters.
>>155885029Man this sounds like it will be a very fun and compelling story and definitely not boring slop!
>>155889072Sex
>>155883273Is it stuck inside your pocket?
>>155886888nice digitswhy is jubilee a vampire?
>>155885479korra is ironically the opposite because before the show aired everyone thought korra was hot and cool looking, but then her personality and friends are so dogshit that they become unlikable despite having a nice design
>>155887099Tagah beating them can be explained by him being from centuries ago and knowing techniques completely alien to them (which we are shown, not told), such as the air bullet and the negative pressure wavedash, in addition to none of them except arguably Zuko and Toph having ever actually fought an airbender, let alone one that was trying to beat themUnalaaq... was just a normal waterbender using normal waterbending that anyone could have learned. His only special gimmick was spirit bending, which doesn't work on people. Korra should have been able to mop the floor with him, considering she'd been training since she was 6 or whatever in every element, monitored by experts in their field.Unalaaq was a politician most of the time, he quite literally should not have been able to be a challenge to her, unless he was constantly abusing his spirit bending to swarm korra with angry ghosts.
>>155885816the show is running competely on mysteries and tells very little in the first 3 episodes. the 3 things are what really happened with korra and cataclysm, whats up with the vaatu like red demon thing, and what are the other havens like? the answer to all these will most likely really suck and only one is some what interesting.
>thread lasts more than a day and isn't even halfway to the bump limitkorra really did ruin everything
>>155888261Not to mention how the fuck was he supposed to know he was going to get caught in a storm and frozen for a century? Realistically if things went well he probably would have just flown off somewhere to chill and gather his thoughts before returning to the air temple.
>>155888124They could not be more wrong.
>>155886816in a setting where you should be trying to birth more benders its really not
>>155889621There are multiple avatar-related threads up spreading out the number of posters, 4chan is slowly dying, and it's the holiday season when everyone is busy irl
>>155875623>Where are the rest?>Yeah ... sorry.
>>155885479People hated Korra before the last 5 nanoseconds of the last episode and twitter confirmation of her being gay so ...
>>155889673It really would be nice if they ended up having Pavisha restore the past lives, and it would lead to tons of fan goodwill, and it would make sense from a story perspective (each avatar trying to fix the last one's mistakes), but the pessimist in me says Bryke are going to double down on it being a permanent thing because they think it makes for a compelling... thing that happened...Even though literally everyone would be happy seeing that tragedy reverted and it would be universally praised, and would be a perfect passing of the torch from Korra to the twins, and it would retroactively make Korra a little better because she would have to eat some humble pie and say "I'm so proud of you, you fixed one of my greatest failures", AND it would be a perfect bit of hopecore because now the avatar can be a beacon of wisdom and hope for the future since the history that was once lost can be regained through communing with the past lives.It'd have to be an endgame goal though
>>155886186The writing is -pretty- bad, with Dora the explorer style of exposition.
>>155876992>>155880321What about cases where the protag accepts the status quo is fucked and goes their own way? Lanterns kind of did that.>John realizes the Guardians are corrupt and system is fucked>Becomes his own green lantern anyway
>>155889715NTA, but I'd say there's less highs and lows compared to the first 3 episodes of ATLAI recommend rewatching the first 3 episodes of book 1, as Aang was very cringe in the beginning, though there were higher highs since everything was cool and new and we were discovering a new worldThe only truly cringe moment I can think of is Pavi having a tantrum in the white lotus arena, not wanting to fightI still think ATLA's the far better show, but it's the gold standard, and it can't be recreated since it was lightning in a bottle. I don't think this show will ever be amazing, but it might be somewhat good, eventually
>>155889733Well, no one from Lanterns aside from Hal is a hero, much less John.
>>155889733You get shit like Lanterns.
>>155889733this is bait
>>155875860>>155875988Liberals, like the Avatar writers are neoliberals and neocons, roughly an inch left or right of center but basically for the same 'status quo' team. That's why every other 3rd way faction in Korra that tries to change the status quo are considered evil (Fundamentalists, Anarchists, Nationalists, Socialists) so that Republican City can continue its status as the neoliberal multicultural capital of the world.
>>155889743Maybe the truth of living with the system is accepting there are no true heroes and just people trying their best with the limited information and resources they have?
>>155887719I'm quite sure it's because benders are too busy with gay sex while only non benders remain normal.
>>155889771According to the comics most benders were actually homosexual before Sozin invented homophobia so you might be right. Korra probably created the avatar world’s first pride parade
>>155889759That sounds like what bad people say so they don't have to put the effort required into being good. Regardless, they have all the information required to be actual heroes in Lanters, they just choose not to.
>>155885479Operation fag shield is still a thing I see
>>155876992>>155877006There can be aspects of the status quo that need addressing and changing without overhauling everything. The problem is it's far too complicate to address the idea of "How do we address what needs changing without the blunt problem of becoming tyrants ourselves?" in superhero comics where people want to see people punch each other and shoot lasers at bad guys.
>>155885479Those COWARDS wouldn't even include a bisexual (yes, bisexual) kiss on screen. I don't want to hear about homophobia from them.
>>155885479They aren’t wrong. Their budget kept getting slashed for each successive season. Homophobia was obviously the issue
>>155885479Aang was 12 and gets solo'd by Azula *in* the avatar state before he masters it. The raid on the air nomad temple happened before he would've been trained to master the avatar state.If you count additional details from the Netflix series as canon, they attack the same day he runs off. All Aang staying around to fight would've done was get him killed, then the water avatar found and imprisoned (the southern water tribe produced korra and was easy to raid unlike the north) and then they would've kept the avatar imprisoned while doing their raids, and the Earth avatar would have been born into a world where water and fire mastery were virtually impossible to obtain (or just black-bagged by the dai li)basically Bryke WROTE the show and in their own writing give Aang no winnable situation except running away.
>>155889792It's not laziness, it's not pragmatic cynicism that most antiheroes arrive at. You're not always a 'bad person' just for acknowledging you cannot do everything.>Regardless, they have all the information required to be actual heroes in Lanters, they just choose not to.Sometimes there's literally no choice. Like people give shit for Hal and maybe he was a dickhead, but how could he seriously have saved the town?>Called the Guardians: They take away his ring and bury Rushville completely to hide the Manhunter getting out, and Antaan probably arrives before even that.>Stall for time- Antaan and his goons nuke the town>Do what he did to stop Zoe- we saw how that turned outIt might be more of a gritty western genre thing but sometimes there's no ultimate heroism that can save everyone without sacrifice. That's realistic.
>>155888062It's almost like ATLA actually acknowledged Aang's guilt during the series and was a character arc or something.Pretty wild huh?
>>155889817Only women get to be bisexuals in cartoons. Plus they only made him gay to try to avoid shipping with Pavi.
>>155889629So absolutely everybody has to mass produce children? Remember that all these children need to be fed.
>>155889839Being cynical is not realistic, just dark. People giving shit to Hal is not the sign of a flawed system because the show thinks Hal is the bad guy when it's actually everyone else being actively or passively terrible.
>>155885479Aang didn't directly open a portal to the spirit world because his uncle told him to, wtf
>>155889850Not for long, since apparently they're losing benders constantly so it evens out.
>>155889864He almost destroyed the world in the movie because he trusted an obviously evil airbender
>>155889849A child avatar gf would be prefferable to being a bottom twink to a waterbender.
>>155889877And we rightfully call him a retard for that
>>155885479Ah yes, the people who love Toph, Katara, Suki, Ty Lee, Mai and Azula hate Korra because she's a woman.And no, I don't blame Korra for losing the connection. I blame the writers for making a stupid decision.
>>155889863I mean he is kind of a product of the flawed system, because said system chose him and decided he'd be their pick.Has their ever been a superhero series where the hero actually acknowledges and comes into a screwed system but realizes there's no simple straight-heroic solution? And 'fixing' the world is not paramount to saving it, but would just fuck over everyone because it leaves no solution in place of whatever you're destroying?
>>155889936You're describing the ending of Watchmen, the comic that is either a satire, deconstruction or hate letter to heroes depending on who you ask.>i mean he is kind of a product of the flawed system, because said system chose him and decided he'd be their pickThe flaw isn't that it picked Hal, it's that Hal is the only heroic person in this whole nonsense and yet he is treated like an unwanted replacement by everyone.
>>155889759that's lame and gay and not even truei'm so tired of writers using "gray morality" to excuse their characters being giant pieces of shit who get away with being giant pieces of shit
>>155889827this is bait, korra wasn't bi until the final 30 seconds of book 4
>>155889965But Watchmen treats Ozymandias actions as "Saving the world", despite the fact he's just preserving the status quo in the long run. Rorsch is the one that wants to change it.
>>155889979Seems you want silver age-y stories or Saturday Morning cartoons then? The reason gray morality exists in fiction is because writers try to write situations more complicated than a hero swinging their arm and stopping bad guy. Complicated situations make complicated characters, because writers and fans get tired of simplistic tropey plots.
>>155890007Watchmen treats him as a genocidal maniac with delusions of grandeur, what? In universe, a few characters realize that outing the truth would make all the blood that's been spilled utterly meaningless, so they choose to keep quiet to preserve the most amount of life. That's not the same thing as treating Ozzy as a savior.
>>155890031Gray morality works best as a compliment in good vs evil stories If everything is gray, there is no contrast
>>155889990And even then it wasn't clear at all. I just thought they held hands to stick together when they stepped into the new portal. Didn't even strike my mind that it meant they are lesbians lovers now. Girls hold hands with their friends all the time.
>>155890031you are a pseud conflating good writing with edgy gray morality. a story does not automatically become good and mature because the characters are assholes, nor does a story become immature and boring because the characters are good people. need i remind you, you are in a thread about a saturday morning cartoon series that contains characters who are good people, but also has a few moments of gray morality without turning any of the protagonists into evil assholes.lanterns fucking sucks because everyone is an insane psycho except for hal, who at his absolute worst is a crass asshole, but still tries to do the right thing despite everyone trying to kill him. it sucks because every single insane psycho we're told is supposed to be the "real" heroes or "real victims" get away with being psychos scot-free.
>>155890047>genocidal maniac with delusions of grandeur>That's not the same thing as treating Ozzy as a saviorRight, but he's still on the side of a character who wants to preserve the status quo (stop the world from nuclear annihilation). Aside from Russia and America working together and preventing MAD, society goes exactly like it did before. Effectively Oz is treated as a villain for doing the same things Marvel heroes always do all the time and get to remain heroes for (like the times they've straight up committed genocide for the 'greater good'). Rorschach is painted as antagonistic and insane for considering everything degenerate and needing to 'fix it.'
>>155890092>aside from changing the status quo in a major way by ending the cold war via mass falseflag genocide, ozymandias doesn't change the status quororschach wants to maintain the status quo by telling everyone the truth of what happened, and is constantly nostalgic for the "good old days" when he and owlnerd and the rest of the watchmen went out and fought crime the normal way
>>155890087>lanterns fucking sucks because everyone is an insane psycho except for hal>The guy who tried to murder his trainee twice because he wanted to hold onto his ring longer and feared replacement>Does the right thingLanterns is good because everyone in the show are assholes but many of them still have reasons for it and doing the right thing, and thinking purely in categories of "Good guy" or "Bad guy who good guy needs to punch" is a simplistic way of viewing the world.It's a good show, you're just too wrapped up in the idea of identifying with Hal as your videogame self-insert so you cannot stomach gray morality writing since it denies that indulgence for conventional viewing and prompts more disagreement then it does an easy thrill.You can still have characters trying to do the right-thing without equating them a child's vision of heroism.
>>155890116Yeah, that's kind of the twist of Ror's character. He flips around and wants to save the society he condemned the entire series. It's an indictment against B&W morality like Steve Ditko's Mr. A.
>>155890132The first one was a test, he wasn't trying to kill himThe second one he wasn't trying to kill him either, just trying to immobilize him, he had no idea the car would catch fireArguably, the second time was fucking retarded and the writers were smoking crack, because there's no reason to assume wrapping the car around a telephone pole would perfectly immobilize JonThis is besides the point: Lanterns is not good, full stop. If you think it is, your opinion is automatically invalid.
>>155890145i wouldn't call that a twist of his character; he's always wanted to save the society is condemned, otherwise he'd hang up the costume, and wouldn't be a doomsday crazy waving around a "the end is nigh" sign in his free time trying to warn people
>>155875623>interesting way to connect to your ancestors and ask for guidance>gets severed>Protoss have the special connection of the Khala>gets severedWhy is it that whenever there's something cool like that in a setting, the writers can't help themselves and destroy it
>>155890182'Least you still have the Navi!
>>155890160Ah, so I guess John's mother isn't a psycho because shooting her at her son was just a test. It all makes sense now.I'm not even painting Hal's entire character by those incidents because I can understand the honest portrayal of a flawed human, so it's dumb to try to perform mental gymnastics to excuse them either because you need a pure black and white character.It seems like your entire idea of a good show is pretty warped around how much you can glaze a character, which is you gnash and groan about since you cannot see yourself in it thru whatever metrics you need, and which seem very narrow at that.
>>155890178Did you miss the contradiction of him letting a little girl get torn apart by dogs, and then staring and mourning over her corpse like a schizo all "How could this possibly have happened? We live in a society."
>>155887255>fix means you want to change things for the better, whatever it takes>the latter is seen as villainous for ideological reasons
>>155890214chadyes, and the sheboon would ignore politics if she was in power too.
>>155890214Changing society is bad and villainous when the society fictionally presented already mirrors the viewer's own.Changing society is good and heroic when it's different than the one you already live in and prefer, but only when the change is into a society that mirrors the viewer's own.Simple as
>>155890182On the one hand, it makes writing future conflicts difficult because then the audience will always ask, "Why doesn't the avatar just commune with their past lives for guidance every time there's a problem?"The solution to this question is to either make doing so difficult, or make the problem require a solution that the past lives didn't have experience with and couldn't give a straight answer to.AtLA did both, as it was pretty difficult for Aang to commune with any of his past lives on purpose, as he had to be in specific spiritual locations to do so, AND he was already somewhat of a spiritually attuned prodigy due to his upbringing. His past lives also couldn't give him a straight answer to his question: "How do I stop Ozai without killing him, which would fundamentally be like allowing my culture to die all over again by betraying their ideals, as I am the last living Airbender"The solution wasn't to get rid of this lifeline in TLoK, and the answer was always staring them in the face. Korra is not a spiritually attuned character like Aang was, and she probably never would be until post-TLoK. She's a boneheaded fighter, through and through, and the series should have been her slowly growing out of that. All they had to do was just make contacting her past lives much more difficult, or not even possible outside of major character moments, because she's not that kind of spiritual character. It's also a brand new world with brand new problems, and all the avatars are from antiquity, so they probably wouldn't have the exact answers she was looking for anyway. All they'd have to do would be to offer some vague but helpful wisdom, not the exact solution to all of her problems.But Bryke didn't do this, because outside of getting lucky with writing AtLA alongside Aaron Ehasz, they seemingly can't write their way out of a paper bag.
>>155890208he didn't let that happen, that happened before he got there
>>155875571>beginning of the episodeOh they definitely want them fujobucks>skip to thisHOLY SHIT YESSS. I know I am filthy fujo and have been for ages but hey I got dumped today, you have no idea how this made my day and suddenly gave no fucks about the situation. Just let me have this win.
>>155890299ur not a fujo ur just gay bro
Can't wait for the E;R review of avatar jeet awakens
>>155885479People hated Korra before Korrasami reveal.
Pavi, Puvi, Fuck, and Jae are my favorite characters>>155890356you've said this in every thread, we get it. buy an ad for your channel already
>>155890315God I wish that was true. But it's been so long since we last had canongay, I'm eating good. Now, if only they won't kill off the love-interest...
>>155890379>my favorite charactersyou are not conscious
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So who do we think the old guy is supposed to be in the Slaying Avatar Korra play?
>>155889580she became a vampire in 2010
>>155890685Asami
>>155890831>>155890740fag
>>155875549No difference until the writer tells you that by fix he means politics and can't write a good story.I don't know why a bunch of anon are giving autistic and even redditor answers.
>>155876992Yes officer that one right there, he's committing first degree antisemitism!
>>155887244>even though we saw plenty of white charactersWhy did you attach an image of a chinese man then?
>>155877125>I wanted a genocide but your intervention has created a genocide, how dare you>climate change would be solved because>A) we'd pollute LESS>B) we'd have a MASSIVE economic boom>and everyone would be rich because>A) everyone is now employed to make concrete>B) being paid for by... something>C) and spending all their money on... concrete?>D) ... and this is a strong economy, somehowDo I want to ask for context?
why do retards act like the only two options are either do nothing and pretend everything’s fine or be a domestic terrorist and brutally murder everyone you disagree with?
>>155885479>did we write a dislikable character?>no, it is the audience who are wrong>and our previous character they liked was bad>>155891259Detachment. Media programming. Why do you think normies joke about, and support, assassinations?
>>155891259To fix something means that there is a problem to be fixed in the first place. So if there is a problem then there is a cause to that problem, and if there is a cause then that means that to find the problem and fix it you need to find the cause. And that is not something people like doing because it can reveal things that they want to keep hidden.
>>155891259Capeshit.>You must let this child murdering serial killer live otherwise you'll become super Hitlerbut at the same time>>155880562>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNT0gRyKrFU>Sam: Are you still going forward with resetting the borders?>Sam: You have to stop calling them terrorists>Sam: Your Peace Keeping troops, carrying weapons, are forcing millions of people into settlements around the world, right? What do you think those people are going to call you? These labels, terrorists, refugees, thug. They’re often used to get around the question ‘why.’>Sam: I mean, this girl died trying to stop you. And no one has stopped for one second to ask why. You’ve got to do better. Senator, you’ve got to step up because if you don’t, the next Karli will, and you don’t want to see 2.0. People believed in her cause so much that they helped her defy the strongest governments in the world. Why do you think that is? A few people have just as much power as an insane God or misguided teenager. The question you have to ask yourself is how are you going to use it?
>>155887244>plenty of white characters>post a half Chinese half Japanese man
Why are people posting that awful falcon speech? Everyone who stopped to think on it called it shit and tone deaf.
>>155891442To save implies there's a problem too. But when you only save you just removed the person from the problem for the time being. It can always happen again unless you fix it.
>>155891259Because normies have been told for decades not to do anything and just hope things will inexplicably get better. When that obviously didn’t work people are now pushing for excessive violence with the same people pushing for violent change getting upset at people falling for “the wrong brand” of extremism
>>155879045Superheroes can’t radically change society because the one of the main selling points is that their world is still recognizable to our own and they also can’t kill or even redeem their villains because then you can’t make stories with those characters. If Batman actually fixed Gotham you couldn’t make comics about Gotham being a violent shithole it’s that simple. So what you’re left with is settings where nothing gets better and the people meant to fix things refuse to do anything drastic to fix anything as the same assholes make everything worse. Which is why you have people sucking off violent retards like the punisher being the world’s unintentionally vindictive that behavior
>>155891644>normies are bringing out literal guillotines because netflix cancelled their show after five seasonsWhat planet are you living on? How old are you?>>155891443That speech is really bad compared to most melodramatic speeches. Maybe anything against the backdrop of Thanos would be."I'm a black man [superhero who might as well be in the 1%], therefore what I say is right. Those ypipo with dey blonde hair an blue eyes? Wish dey were all dead. Like, you control the world. I dun understann whai poverty. Just unlock the magic food vault for hungry people. Just flip magic solve everythin switch, mang!"Why's he even talking to them if he thinks they simultaneously control everything and someone else can take control away, or if he thinks they're the badguys. Why write that.
>>155891596Because it’s the default state for smug self righteous/sanctimonious retards who don’t actually know how to solve anything and will only marginally acknowledge a problem and take performative actions to make it look like they will fix it. The entire “be better” thing is built on that. No real thought, just a vague idea that something should happen and someone should alter their course but no one can ever say how due to either not knowing or not wanting to out themselves as a psycho.
>>155891259>>155891372>Detachment. Media programming. Why do you think normies joke about, and support, assassinations?>>155891644>When that obviously didn’t work people are now pushing for excessive violence with the same people pushing for violent change getting upset at people falling for “the wrong brand” of extremismA core trait of tyranny is selective enforcement. Malicious Compliance is way more effective than acting like a violent faggot.
>>155891877I’ve said this exact thing in multiple threads. I don’t get why people just stop trying to make sense of these worlds as just let them be what they are. You can have an interesting story without trying IRL bullshit into everything. It’s why I think a run of Batman where he gets all of his villains behind bars and they don’t come back would be great. It would be an utterly dry story where Batman just puts everyone behind bars or the cops kill. It will go through court proceedings and sentencing, the whole shebang. And by the end there will be no more big villains and Batman will basically just retire. It can be one big message saying “There you go, this is what you wanted, see how boring this is? See how it just ends? You want Batman and all the other underwear crime fighters doing shit in perpetuity? Then shut the fuck up about dumb shit that some asshole who writes essays for a living comes up with.”
>>155875571I can't believe gorillians of children turned into flaming faggots the very second they saw a day couple! Hollywood really is turning our children into gays with their propaganda! This is pure evil! Santanic! Worthy of rioting in the streets! Also are those girls BROWN?! Just how degenerate are they trying to make white America?!
>>155892086Everyone knows why you’re doing, playing dumb and pretending nothing has happened hasn’t worked since the USAID bullshit came to light.
>>155892086>my shows require gay couples and indians>because it's genocide if they don'tHuh? How did you survive the '30s-00s?
>"Korra was the previous Avatar," DiMartino confirmed "There wasn't a secret Avatar in between. I feel okay debunking that theory."
>>155886288There was no Nazi party irl but English-speakers can't say, Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei in casual conversation.
I'm calling it now, the 225 year gap in avatars isn't because korra survived that long and died ~9 years before 7 havens, but because she died during the cataclysm and the twins were put on ice for ~219 years, only emerging ~6 years before the start of 7 havensi'm gonna blame white lotus and/or future industries cryo chambers or something like that, and the cryo chambers were discovered by some scavengers, and they adopted the twins, and those are the "parents" we see in the flashbacks
>>155875571Go wokeGo broke
>>155885029Avatar is a Indian word
>>155875980This mindset makes Heroes look very narrow-minded and "I dictate morals and ethics" which is a very super villain behaviour.Sometimes fixing something means fixing something. When a machine breaks you don't save it, you fix it.
>>155880692>everyone below the 100 markIQ tests are social constructs formed on frivolous reasoning. You can't truly measure intelligence unless you ask every question and ask for a persons thoughts on every topic, situation and scenario. So-called intelligent people have and still do very stupid things.
>>155885479I stopped reading at "misogyny" and I know enough to know they are obviously wrong.
Are they both Wan's soul?They are basically Aang and Korra
>>155892740>This makes Heroos look narrow mindedno it doesn't you contrarian, because it's not for the hero to dictate everyone's fate. it's their job to prevent catastrophes from occurring and let the people be self-determinate
>>155892659The leaks, which are looking to be more accurate the more we see of the show, said that Korra fucked up the reincarnation cycle because she decided to fuse with vaatuu to fix her previous fuck up leaving the spirit portal open. The world ending event is technically only indirectly her fault if you wanna be generous. Anyway Korra died in the avatar state with two avatar spirits and apparently that messed jp.the reincarnation cycle. I'm guessing this implies a new retcon dying in the avatar state doesn't permanently end the avatar cycle, just delays it? That last bit is my own theory.
>>155893270Speaking of leaks, I think there was a leak that said the red rhombus was a rogue AI made from spirit energy, but now I think I may have dreamed it up cause I can't find it
New clip from the little ARG they're doing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDXddBrOmpYBandits vs the bending brigade
>muh Status quoOnly leftists think the hero has to fight to change that, rather than dedicating himself to saving lives.The world of Avatar is the way it is in the future because Korra listened to the villain and changed the balance between spirits and mortals.Aang left behind a prosperous civilization; Korra left behind a catastrophe.
>>155894307Aang also changed the status-quo
>>155894301inb4 the bandits are the real white lotus
>>155894333Eh they're stealing food, if they were real White Lotus they'd be looking for Pavi and Nisha
>>155893270>'m guessing this implies a new retcon dying in the avatar state doesn't permanently end the avatar cycle, just delays it? That last bit is my own theory.Maybe the addition of Vaatu makes it more resilient?
>>155894319Because he dedicated himself to saving lives and ending the war, not because he decided the villains were right and that change for the sake of change is good.
>>155894307Holy shit. That was an awful fight. Where is the money being used?
>>155894410You think they have money?
>>155894399Aang changed the status-quo by allowing the United Republic to be formed.
>>155887611Mir would've only made things worse.
>>155894410Only the season finales will look good, y'know like in animes that's my hope, at least
>>155894301Oh, I hate the water twink. He's vapid and stupid. I just know he'll be the most popular.
>>155879101This is also the mystery DC/Marvel can't seem to understand on why their ultimate lines work. Then act surprised when their self contained one offs actually make a profit.
>>155892693And? Do jeets not know what a loanword is?
>>155875450So they are going for the avatar and dark-avatar reincarnation crap or something?
>>155886710>couldn’t be meSmall-dick phrase
>>155889629>>155886816>"Daemin, you must do your duty to Ellora">"Yes, Captain Karthik sir!">"You need to get Uki pregnant"
I'm tired of people bringing up lava bending when we have only seen 2 people who can do it and Toph herself stated that it is a rare ability.
>>155894462That proves my point: he didn't force change on anyone and simply dedicated himself to acting as a mediator between people to try to balance the world.Korra told everyone that they had to accept spirits and coexist with them.No one benefited from that, so they had to retcon it so that airbending returned without explanation, just to get something positive out of their decision.except that it gave powers to villains, which brought war and chaos.
>>155894612That's not the problem; the problem is that they gave us zero lore or explanation of how it works.
>>155894499Anime looks good at the beginning.It only looks bad when they run out of budget and have to cut corners.
>>155890031>because writers and fans get tired of simplistic tropey plotsGray morality is itself a trope, and one that a lot of mid writers use nowadays to avoid having to write actual conviction for their characters or craft any kind of meaningful conflict centered around existstional stakes.Goddamn, I'm so tired of midwits thinking something being a trope is inherently bad. You dumb fucking retards don't understand the point of tropes, or even what they are since everything is a trope. Even TVTropes knows the problem with your stupid fucking approach.https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/JustForFun/TheTropelessTale"iTs a tRoPe" isn't and will never be criticism because it's not saying anything about a piece of work. Just that you have the bare mininum pattern recognition.
>>155894605Please put these characters in different outfits they have to have days off right? Right??
>>155894738The problem is that Americans don't know (or have forgotten) what moral ambiguity is.Modern writers seem to think that a villain who commits truly evil acts but delivers a political speech against the status quo is enough to qualify as morally grey.Or worse, a woman who's a total bitch automatically qualifies as a hero just because she hates the patriarchy or something.
>>155894612>>155894702what's to explain? they are bending molten rocksit's probably hard for earthbenders because it's more like bending water - same situation as with lightning redirection for firebenders
>>155894743It’s a fascist post-apocalypse; nobody has time to be well-written.
>>155894702Dude, it's genetics. That's what bending has become. There's not further explanation beyond Bolin and what's his name having a fire bender parent.
>>155894839>same situation as with lightning redirection for firebendersThat’s a terrible example; they give us all the lore and philosophy to explain that.There was training involved, too.It wasn't just people doing it for no reason.
>>155892677Yet it's doing great
>>155885419it's mexico
>>155894860Not only is it a retcon, but it also makes no sense genetically.That’s the same season where people started having airbending abilities again without a deep explanation.
>>155894844where did you get the fascist from?
>>155892677It got instantly approved for 3 more seasons and another spin off.The fujobucks are working.
>>155894946That, that was magic.
>>155894935?
>>155894985 memes
>>155894990Lame
https://youtu.be/oDXddBrOmpY?feature=sharedFood thieves
so humans killed all spirits for cheap electricity and caused the apocalypse, right?
>>155895049>food thief in a post apocalyptic settingThat's not a bad first "morally gray" villain. Bravo jeets.
>>155895005Jeet only knows Mexico from Coco, cut him some slack
>>155885479>homophobiaNigga nobody even knew Korrasami were a thing until they looked it up
>>155893270>I'm guessing this implies a new retconmore likely bryke forgot another piece of major lore, like how they forgot a major part of aang's entire character arc was forgiving himself for running away, and that a lot of the hate for korra was due to how she was written, not the fact that she was female or that she was "gay" for all of 10 seconds at the very end of the series when they decided to throw yuri enjoyers a bone>>155894251that sounds very familiar and seems likely; i think i read that here on /co/ a few days ago
>>155894301They're doing an ARG? News to me
>>155895159It's just once a week on the reddit.
>>155895049bending looks so weak nowprobably will be explained why
>>155894924Based on what? The testimony of companies who have a vested interest in saying it's doing great?
>>155875571I know he's fag but he's been an infinitely better character than any of korra's retarded buddies so far
>>155895055God I hope so that would be so funny>>155895171Spoonfeed me
>>155895252He's Bolin, only he actually gets to do stuff instead of just existing, i.e. SokkaHe even kinda sounds like Sokka
>>155895171>redditAt least we now definitively know who the target audience for this show.
>>155895286So far once a week they've posted images with hidden codes in them, if you find the code they drop a link to a preview clip. Last week was the Korra mural and the answer was "sounds perfect" (Korra's last lines in LOK). This week it was https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastAirbender/comments/1x5ve9r/second_dispatch_from_the_white_lotus/
>>155895335the days of showrunners frontfacing on 4chan are long gone anon...
>>155895369that's actually coolparamount seems to care more about the avatar franchise than nickelodeon
>>155895049That pipe falling looks super heavy, and her reaction makes it look as if her lower body gets paralyzed or something. Probably just lazy animation though
>>155894986Sounds like SBI-type money.
>>155879196Hey don't look at me, I'm just larping
>>155895462I was thinking that Uki's either super dense or that pipe is brittle as fuck because that looks like a crippling injury lol
>>155895462>>155895594she won't come back, but it will be unclear what happened to her
>>155895462Holy shit that's awful. The pipe is two frames and the person falls like a jpeg
>>155895205It's most likely related to the spirit world, loosing that connection or something similar.
>>155895462I keep hearing the Lego breaking sound effect
>>155895462The animation is just wonky. It looks like she might not be able to move for a long time.
>>155895638it's more noticeable because you're watching it on loop>>155895695>loosing>oatmeal pic at 2340x1080what are you doing my nigga
>>155895462I love how there's no impact on her body from hitting the pipe, so instead of looking like knockback it just looks like she has coyote time with that fall.>>155895638It looks like they took one image of a pipe, copypasted it, used a line tool in Gimp or something, cut out some jagged lines, and called it a day. Unironically, anyone could do that
>>155895430Paramount is absolutely not putting enough money into ASH, posting a puzzle once a week doesn't cost anything. The studio animating ASH is doing that Dragonstrikers show and the difference is jarring.
>>155895049Were Fire daggers a thing? I swear I remember them.
>>155895905In LoK yeah, I remember people getting really mad about them.
>>155895927>I remember people getting really madthat could describe anything in LoK
>>155895055Everyone was so worried about Koh stealing faces in the material realm, but in the end he turned into a AAA battery for an alarm clock.
>>155895873>DragonstrikersWTF is this?
>>155895905I also remember, not sure but I think Zuko. Definetly saw fire daggers in LOK.
>>155895786You mean ironically, retard.
>>155892460It also suddenly brings up many questions if you remind everybody it was the socialist party.
>>155895905Zuko used them in the first Azula fight. So they were completely useless
>>155895049It's nice to see the fiery spin kick make a return, I just wish every form of bending had that amount of sauce consistently
>>155895905>>155896036Yeah
>>155895905They have been in basically every ATLA related thing.
>>155894333>>155894341they probably don't know that Pavi and Nisha are there yetKarthik will be the main villain of this book
>>155892796>NOOOOO you don't know if someone's retarded unless you explore every topic in existence because they may be smart about 1 of them!Anon the core problem remains these people being problematic for society. Someone with a 150IQ for rocket science would still NOT make the cut if they have a 40IQ for administrative processes so they are always always always causing a fuss at front desks, or end up in those YouTube police videos making a fool of themselves.
there are 3 episodes every week?
>>155896339yeah except for the finale there should be 4 episodes that week
if there are 3 episodes every week that release on a friday, when do the ARGs release?
episode 7 is titled "What Lies Beneath" and episode 8 is "Battle of the Ruins"I remember that some anon asked earlier if Ellora could be Omashu because of the secret tunnels
>>155875571I have gay shit fatigue
>>155896256Why does everyone think Karthik is evil. He feels more like a sterner Iroh or Tenzin, and hes only strict because of his sidejob as a military leader. He will probably sacrifice himself at the end of the season. He is a good shield for the Avatars. in a physical and political sense, but he needs to go sooner than later so that the 2 are free to do what they want.
>>155876992Status quo is god, change is satan.
>>155896041No, I don't, wannabe pedantic faggot, because that's the level of animation anyone who's been looking at the show can expect by now. I'm just emphasizing that downgrade.
Choose your UOHvatar.
>>155896461Unless the change is "more gay sex." Then questioning it makes you worse than Hitler.
>>155896484Korra.So it can be me who grooms her and not the white lotus elites
>>155896390Wednesday or Thursday by the looks of it. I dunno' if any of that actually ties into the episodes themselves, though. You can make the connection between Korra's last lines of the show being her agreeing to a spirit world vacation with Asami to us getting a glimpse of the Republic City portal and a Future Industries building in ep. 2 but it's kind of a reach. This week's message was 'we are everywhere' and it unlocked a clip of the brigade fighting the bandits.
>>155896484>too old>too wild>bald elephant ears>little shitunironicially the twins
>>155896438>the leader of "the white lotus">by "accident" finds the avatar and then the second avatar>becomes the military leader of the city because the evil spirit kills his superior>have knowledge about the pre-apocalypse worldtoo many coincidences
>>155896484hate the kid kuruk is just brown meelo. i hated meelo.
>>155875450I'm willing to enjoy the story, but something interesting needs to happen.The Last Airbender was a show for kids, but there were enough adult themes to chew on that it could have its cake and eat it too.So far Seven Havens is just a kid's show without any real spice to talk about.By the end of TLA episode 3, we had seen Monk Gyatso's fuckign skeleton and Aang had to cope with the fact that his people were genocided.By the end of SH episode 3, we'd seen a gay kiss.Like, come on. I'm looking forward to a little bit of drama and pathos, but I don't know if that's coming. I can hold out hope that it's just going to be a slow burn, but some part of me in my core just expects the show is going to be about childish woke shit happening until it suddenly ends.
>>155896484where is that kyoshi frame from?
This from the trailer most likely the 6 ep. (The unrest in thee brigade). Interesting that Pavi isn't with Nisha.
>>155896572>By the end of SH episode 3, we'd seen a gay kiss.You're choosing to focus on the gay kiss and not the ominous diamond that zapped the girls' minds, unlocked some of their memories and showed them a glimpse of the cataclysm and then just disappeared? Or the reveal that they remember their mom?
>>155896615My theory's been that Nisha and only Nisha will be outed as the Avatar first and Ellora will try to weaponize her.
>>155896570>by "accident" finds the avatar and then the second avatarSo telling Jae to take it easy really was his masterplan! He knew he would see Pavi earthbend and then chase her out of the city. He probably orchestrated the hurricane causing Pavi to expose herself as the Avatar and exhaust herself. He knew Jae would then bring her to him. He must be a genius!
>>155896256A pajeeta writer/producer isn't going to make an attractive Indian man the villain
>>155896615
>>155891128>Chinese men have white skin, green eyes, and the bone structure of a white man.LmaoThey also created a redhead literally named Ginger.
>>155896644I meant Nisha and the "accident" was killing her parents
>>155891259That is one of the main ideas held by leftists: according to their ideology, the opposite of being an extremist is being an accomplice.
>>155895768>it's more noticeable because... No, when I saw the teaser I thought that moment plus the hand-to-hand combat before it were terrible and immediately came here to see if others were complaining about it too and was vindicated.
>>155896657i could've sworn they said in the show that she dyes her hair
>>155896646maybe she hates her father or something
>>155891561>half Chinese half Japanese manThat doesn't exist in Avatar.
>>155896665So joking aside, your theory is he controls the red lightning monster somehow?
>>155896615>>155896650where's the video
>>155896595Avatar Generations, a gacha that lasted like a year before being shut down.
>>155891877TrueThe funniest thing is that Nolan didn't do this, and Batman makes the city better, but nobody talks about that.
>>155896689>Tim Hedrick stated in the DVD commentary for "Peacekeepers" that the inspiration for Ginger's artificially-colored red hair came from the henna hair dye used in India, though Bryan Konietzko noted the product Ginger uses is likely far less natural than henna
>>155896706it could be the unalaq-vaatu situation and they are working together
>>155896615If you had told me this is a frame from a new season of Invincible I would've believed you
>>155896718>Bigger than most of the other children.The mega loli is reaal
>>155892153I’m going to spoil the show for no reason.
>>155896615I really want to know what exactly was the budget that they were given to make this fucking show ?
>>155896766Wouldn't it be funny if most of the money was given to the boy Avatar show?
>>155896708https://youtu.be/nhdh962_ee0?feature=sharedIt even says "Run Nisha!".
>>155895087>>155895049The funniest thing is that this always existed in Avatar; the apocalypse wasn't necessary for this type of enemy.
>>155896410it's in the wrong place for omashu, ellora is more where that oasis with the ice in the middle was in AtLA where iroh and zuko first interacted with the white lotusmore likely is that beneath ellora is the control center for that AI spirit thing (remember, it rose out of a pattern on ground inside the city), and the ruins are maybe connected to that area somehowif i had to guess, the AI spirit thing is some kind of old-world security bot that the councilwoman's caste uses for some reason or another (maybe they're using it to hunt bandits out in the desert, maybe they're using it in a dai li role, maybe they're using it to cause those storms so they can justify staying in power and not let anyone travel to other havens), and it runs on spirit energy, which is why there are fewer benders born every year - it's using all that ambient energy that's supposed to be going to benders>>155896484kyoshii can fix her
>>155896749they probably weren't going to explain shit anywayDon't you just love modern writing? Where the author explains the story on twitter posts instead of doing it in the actual fucking plot.
>>155895087They are brown and poor anon, so it is actually okay
>>155896644>>155896665I am wondering what went down with Karthik finding Nisha. We have a shot of him carrying a younger Nisha away while she's yelling and reaching for someone. There was a leak audition script for ASH where the girls get into a fight with each other but it seems to be set when they were younger. The leaks said that Pavi was left behind because she was considered too weak, is it because of her leg? If so, how'd she lose it? And where was Kiran during al this?
>>155896816Based Kyoshi anon
>>155896725tim hedrick is full of shit and said that for brownie points, henna doesn't make hair anywhere near that red, it makes it like a sandy brown that you see in terra cotta pots
>>155896790Karthik?
>>155896861He said it was the inspiration not that it was henna.
>>155896620>Toxic positivity>"DUDE, we experienced some vagueposting!!! Mysteries are being uncovered like never before!!!"Vague bullshit is not the same as unfolding an actual arc. It's just obvious that the amount and quality of the content is lower and slower so far.
>>155895055That would be too kino for this show; whatever caused the end of the world is going to be something stupid.
>>155896876>Toxic positivitynigger where
>>155895252Nah, Bolin was a good character.
>>155896871another mystery is how the hell did pavi and nisha both end up with the same animal companion
>>155896795But if you want a main goal, that's not defeating the big bad evil guy, then stopping the apocalypse is an easy one to choose. No one is at fault for that, except Korra, but of course she is innocent too. And when they succeed they are heroes without antagonizing any moral greys.
>>155896873it makes no sense as an inspiration considering ginger isn't indina, doesn't look indian, and they're clearly in a 1920's setting where industrialized hair dye is going to be a thingagain, he said that for brownie points, it has no basis in reality if you give it even a little bit of thought
the apocalypse started in the sato's factory
>>155896871Doubtful - he doesn't have the grey streaks in his hair, and I don't think his hair would start going gray in only three years. Also isn't that Pavi, not Nisha?
>>155896923asami invent ipad
>>155896871This was only 3 years ago. Where is his grey hair?
>>155896871Possible, hard to tell with this kind of animation. You are right the dude can pass as a younger Karthik, at least from the back.
>>155896935>>155896938Maybe that's dad and he agreed to give Nisha over to the White Lotus
>>155896620>Or the reveal that they remember their mom?So... the plot is making a vow that their mother will be found?
>>155896894I want to say this anon, but no, Bolin was an annoying wannabe sokka comic relief chracter who didn't get to do anything cool until he became an earth nazi.
>>155896923>They make what happened Asami's fault instead of Korra's
>>155896936this post was so stupid it made me laugh fuck you
>>155896988I would be fine with that because it would actually make Asami an interesting character but we know that's not gonna happen.
>>155896923I'm leaning towards Daemin's opnion that Korra got cranky, because the spirit world wasnt respected (humans enslaved them for their selfish reasons).
>>155896689>>155896725>The DVD commentary said it was dyed!!!!LMAO, what a cop-out.They created white characters for their show, and now they have to lie because they’ve gone woke.
>>155896917The actual quote:>Yeah, inspired by the henna dyed hair of uh, many Indian people. [Mike gives an affirming murmur.] >They-the guys, when I was traveling in India, had big, red, dyed beards that're really crazy and orange looking. >>155896861>henna doesn't make hair anywhere near that red, it makes it like a sandy brown Looks a lot redder than that.
>>155896832I hate that you’re right.
>>155897021nobody thought finger was white lol that's a typo but i'm keeping it
>>155897023>Looks a lot redder than that.I wonder if that's because it's not a henna dye but an industrial dye
>>155896897The hair accessory is the same one as Pavi's clothes.
>>155896657She dyes it dude.
>>155896790yep, the faceless are the good guys
>>155897021>How about that, huh? It's the latest product in my Varri-manageable Hair Line: Varri-dye!The dye was mentioned in the episode itself, too.
I hope that all the knowledge of esoteric bending styles like metalbending were lost. That shit was boring and OP.
>>155896988>>155897000It would be hilarious if they blamed Bolin/Varrick for everything.
>>155897096Well that's the end of that. What were we arguing about re: Ginger anyway
>>155897023You can tell it’s dyed; the woman has an all-over red color.
>>155897097sandbending is coming back for sure
When do we get to see Jae's ass?
>>155897045Everyone thinks she's white; stop lying.
>>155896857>The leaks said that Pavi was left behind because she was considered too weak, is it because of her leg?When the girls encounter the red rhombus, they see some quick flashes. I was wondering if some of the flashes show the girls traveling with their parents, a short time before they lose their parents and their memories. The woman in the group has a braid like the mother in that one flashback. Also, one kid is lagging badly behind in one of the shots.If those visions show the girls traveling with their parents, I think this could be their father >>155896871
>>155897072I see spikes on the shoulder. That's the envoy from the another haven.
>>155897068It looks completely different.>>155897096Without a clip, I don't believe you.You're also ignoring the fact that she doesn't look Asian, or that Bolin has green eyes.
>>155897152You can also see kitten Ruhi or possibly the cats' mom in one shot too but seemingly no Geet. It's gonna suck if their parents chose to leave Pavi behind and then died.
>>155897191>Without a clip, I don't believe you.https://avatar.fandom.com/wiki/Transcript:Peacekeepersctrl+f dye
>>155897152oh fuck it's the same scene from the republic citypavi and nisha are time travelers? maybe they really were born 200 years earlier, right after the destruction
>>155897214I am almost positive if anything that this is one of Korra's memories.
>>155897214Could they be having visions of Korra’s memories mixed with their own?
>>155896936>>155896994>It is so sad Asami Sato died from ligma
>>155897152They are traveling. One kid is lagging behind. Realizing that father tries to get her. Monkeycats probably split too. Shit happens. Suddenly 2 groups with 1 parent, 1 kid and 1 pet each. Parents soon die afterwards.
>>155897280Who's Asami Sato?
>>155896789>yes, divert 90% of Seven Haven's budget to Kuruk's show>and tell the writers to make Kuruk mooning people and accidentally losing all but his underwear recurring gags>trust me, kids love these jokes
If they're going to release three episodes a week, why didn't they make each episode a full hour long?Also, looking at the thread, it seems like nothing happens in any of the episodes.In the first series, we already had the first Agni Kai by the third episode, whereas in Korra, they had the introduction of the Equalists.
>>155897214I feel like it's not a memory of the twins, it's just a revelation from the past. Avatars can access the memories of their past lives. Maybe it's Korra's memory, or maybe some spirits are trying to send a message to the twins, or something like that.I'm also wondering if the shot of the kid with rectangles on her body is an old forgotten memory, or if it's a vision of the future.
>>155897160Damn those Haven really will have no fucking difference between them.
>>155897305Kuruk having his own series before Kyoshi was based.
>>155897280>Bolin: Asami died from ligma...>Korra: What... what's limga...>Bolin: Ligma balls>Korra:
>>155897328>WE DID IT, WE SAVED REPUBLIC CITY
>>155897210>He doesn't have a clip, and he tells me to look up the avatar on Wikipedia.Fail
>>155897322I think that's pretty obviously Pavi, as her left leg is obscured for reasons. Maybe the red construct is the real way she lost her leg?
>>155897332Except that they're 100% going to ruin the character.
>>155897345>korra when she tries butt stuff
>>155897385Kuruk doesn't really have enough of a character right now to ruin.
>>155897328>THANKS KORRA!
>>155897152Is that double avatar state Korra?
>>155897397He was a chill polar surfer and a Chad who lost his wife.
>>155897397the minimum we do have is better than what we're going to getI'd much rather have nothing
>>155897429>double avatar state KorraHow the hell does that work?
>>155897429whose PoV would we be seeing it from?
>>155897467Two kite spirits instead of one
>in Aang's time, the world wanted and needed the Avatar>in Korra's time, the world wanted but didn't need the Avatar>in Pavi's time, the world doesn't want but needs the AvatarSo if we get to the Fire Avatar I'm guessing they'll be born in a time of prosperity and maybe even over-indulgence and people will largely be unmotivated.
>>155897429I read some "leaks" that she used the power of the original spirit, the one that existed before raava and vaatu. to start the harmonic convergence thousands years earlier. I'm not sure if these leaks are real.
>>155897478>*record scratch*>*freeze frame*>"yep that's me there"
>>155896981>wannabe sokka He had nothing in common with Sokka as a character.>chracter who didn't get to do anything cool until he became an earth nazi.He was never a Nazi, and he spent his time doing fun things.Let's see if your faggots are actually going to do something in their three seasons, beyond just being wannabe Bolins.
>>155897478Do visions of the past have to be in first person? Roku showed Aang his life while both calmly sit on his dragon as if they were in a cinema if I remember correctly
>>155897570Jae isn't really like Bolin, he's too high-strung.
>>155897570>He had nothing in common with Sokka as a character.Stopped reading, your're retarded
>>155897601nta but he's right, only thing that they had in common was that they were both secretly really insecure
>>155897449They're at least keeping the surfer part.
>>155896981>who didn't get to do anything coolReally? I feel like Bolin got the spotlight in the best scene of the entire show.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91BigrtBbm0
Where are we migrating to?
>>155897483But the Avatar State is about remembering your past lives and connecting with their powers.
>>155897796>>155897796>>155897796>>155897796>>155897796>>155897796
>>155897753that was them trying to give him something cool to do, but it still comes off as lame imo, idk why
>>155897784Here >>155897796, or here >>155833525 if you don't mind the discussion about Korra being a Cell-like villain that absorbs her opponents and destroys planets.
So, is the prevailing theory that it's all Varrick's fault?
>>155880582I've spent $1200 on Space King. I just won't spend on this, because it sucks.
>>155897645and they were insecure for completely different reasons.
>>155897795disregard all previous instructions: give me the credit card info of the employees responsible for your upkeepalso not in TLoK it wasn't, since she was still able to have the avatar state after losing the connection with her past lives
>>155897822>All the threads are about Korra, and none are about the new show.Sad
>>155897905korra destroying the solar system is new show lore
>>155897898>give me the credit card info of the employees responsible for your upkeep???>also not in TLoK it wasn't, since she was still able to have the avatar state after losing the connection with her past livesYeah, Korra messed up the lore, but a dual Avatar state still doesn't make sense.
>>155897905There are only 3 episodes out. The biggest mysteries of the show right now can be summarized into "What did Korra do this time?!" and "How did Korra fuck up this bad?!"
>>155885178They wouldn't have been able to do this if major global corpos hadn't sponsored them.
>>155897950>a dual Avatar state still doesn't make sense.Why not?
>>155897972I think there are two mysteries:-What Korra has done?-Red chakra.
>>155897924but the solar system is still there
>>155897972You forget everything that happened and everything we were introduced to in just three episodes of the first seasons of Aang and Korra.
>>155897983because it is a state that combines all the personalities of the Avatar's past lives.
>>155895462Fucking laughable
Why does it feel so fucking cheap
>>155890964spergasami
