Estherdon edition
>>155922470New season when?
>>155922470Idk why netflix is taking so long to greenlight it but at least they are prepared this time. Plus we knind of already knew this since a anon posted some s3 storyboards a while back
>>155922482>>155922493Next Halloween for sure.
>>155922493Maybe they're trying to maximize hype? But why spend so much money and effort trying to advertise if there's a good chance they'll just cancel it? Fucking retarded.
>>155922592Shocked anyone on /co/ liked that series as well. >>155922646I'm sure that has to be it but god knows the inner workings of netflix plus they have two expensive flops right now so haunted might get the boot just because of the live action like inside job and other animated netflix series have before. Didn't they just say netflix's new narnia is so bad they've been doing rushed reshoots and it was already over 300mil in budget.
>>155923114>Shocked anyone on /co/ liked that series as well.who won't?
>>155922470>6000y/o demon trapped in child body as main comedy resort>Adult voiceWASTEDWith AI you don't even need child actors.
>>155923759>>155922592She’s cute I wanna smell her cuncun
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>>155890423Damn this is cute >>155889514I’ll be honest I thought for sure that’s where her character was headed but I’m glad they didn’t do that >>155912906Ghosts can probably inflict a good deal of damage to each other but maybe those ones were special and capable of permanently killing you
>>155924217i love the Battle moments of Abbadon, when he fights the Sirens and the Undying Thriller Killer.
Reminder there’s still 2 episodes that have been robbed from us
>>155924519which ones
>>155924519I noticed the first season had 10 eps when I was rewatching it last night. Are we getting the other two episodes later? I really hope the episode count wasn't permanently cut to 8 per season.
>>155923367>>155923754>Abbadon and Demon!Esther were never in the same room together much less sharing a scene Wasted potential
>tfw ETERNITY BEGINS NOW!!!
>>155923367>>155923754We have canon reverse au designs>>155924645Really is sad but hopefully we'll get more esther and abaddon stuff next season
>>155924285Abaddon has shockingly high strength feats ironically.
The idea that the cross brand could open up into his demon form's chest-mouth is pretty awesome.
>>155924579No. The crew mentioned Netflix gave them the green light so last minute they didn't have the time to do a full 10 episode season.
>>155924900What do you guys think of estherdon?
>>155922493If they don't renew for s3 I have no hope for animation. This is one of the best shows Netflix has ever made and it was like top 5 streaming when s2 dropped
>>155925756They will, they know how good this is.
>>155925756They probably are waiting to really get people blue balled and force them to pay for a subscription if they didn't have one already just to watch it.
>>155925625It's cute, but never happening and a lot less popular than it would have been 10 years ago.
>>155925935Oh god if this show came out any other era of animation even if it came out 2016-19 it would have been the biggest ship ever. But hey the best thing about a non-canon ship is you can enjoy it however you like. But yes if this was back in the day they'd probably tease it even more and the fans would go wild for it. Ironically seems people still do just much more subdued.
>>155925625Best ship. I love how they're both little weirdos.>>155925985Honestly I'd put it even earlier, like late 00s to early 10s? Estherdon would have been absolutely unstoppable then. Only competitor would be Benaddon (especially given the way they set it up with "demons are drawn to corrupt purity")Really the fandom would still be heavily Abaddon focused, but people would be a lot more open about being weird for him.
>>155924900would definitely be some freaky body horror>>155925625very cute pairingtop 3 thus far, not that there’s a lot of candidates but yeah
>>155925625I'm not crazy about it, but the appeal is easy to see.As others said, they would've done absolute gangbusters a few years back.
>>155924070true, though we also have these things called 'women'.I think the idea is that your voice possesses someone too (Candleguy was his own voice in Esther's body, right?) and that it's funny to hear an adult talk like him in either of his modes.
>>155925625I like it but I'm not sure why I see almost everyone labeling it as a crackship outside of /co/. Abbadon gets along best with Esther. During the S1 finale he went so far to turn their "blip" into something more. He outright states "I've lived the history of this world 100 times" after repeatedly going through the stone tablet just to save her. I don't think the show will explicitly do anything with their relationship, but there's already a lot of subtext that promotes estherdon.
>>155925461yeah but the green light still says they can do those eps. so they could be specials.Not only are they probably still entitled to those episodes, Netflix will probably DEMAND they do those.
>>155922493Netflix only cares about view numbers and time. They won't greenlight another batch of episodes unless they feel confident that enough people will watch.
>>155925985nawww things are slightly better now than in 2016-19.>>155926218yes, that is when you could have.
>>155926590I need a gif of her Climbing Abbadon's hole enraged.
>>1559268901:11https://youtu.be/7BoIZn2OzcQ?si=cvHA4EUsCM_dZrSa
>>155924285>>155924800Every time someone says Abaddon I always think of this nigga
Genuinely a feat they manage to keep Abaddon likable.
Just watched Dante Crowe, that was a great episode. It was smart writing to play the Dante stuff 100% straight and have the comedy come from how our goofy cast bounces off of him. The season has been getting progressively better, hope the finale sticks the landing.
>>155926890Here you go>>155926720That was definitely when things started going to shit. I was digging through some old abandoned tumblr blogs for some stuff that managed to survive the porn ban and it's such a weird time capsule compared to now.>>155926590>I'm not sure why I see almost everyone labeling it as a crackship outside of /co/.Because it seems "weird" to normies, also because so many terms are losing meaning. A crackship for Haunted Hotel would be if we shipped Abaddon x the principal at the kids' school. Everything you already said is spot on, it makes complete sense to ship them.
>>155927312right? Also impressive they keep him funny, while not just ignoring his previous development.
>>155927353>played it straightthat's it exactly, they Leslie Nielsen'd it.
>>155927372It doesn't actually seem weird to normies. in fact, normies don't really have their own opinions at all.they're just constantly terrified. the news tells them to be, and they obey, or else.
I loved this episode. So sweet
>>155926590Anyone calling it that is ironically on crack. There aren’t many viable pairings in this show when you really get down to it, but those two are absolutely one of them.>>155927117Same but there’s like 3 others that spring to mind too lol it’s a pretty favored name across fiction for some reason.>>155927353Yup. A lesser show would have made him a wimpy fraud or something and derive the ‘comedy’ from that but instead we got both a genuinely cool and funny character from it.
>>155927372Just like Yayoi, she’s scarier than the ghosts.
>>155927695genuinely cool but also like, clearly not for everyone. which was remarkably honest
No one really talks about him, but this guy is surprisingly funny whenever he shows up
>>155928749this was only his second appearance, right? but yeah. both times, he successfully got me.
>>155926218Indeed they really work together reminds me a lot of ships that never were but fandoms made up. But really just fun overall also like that both are competent in their own way. Esther can actually do stuff to protect herself but abaddon is immortal so he can tank most damage if need be.Oh I know just saying even in that transitional era when fandoms started getting more lame and overbearing they'd still have done great like Zagr and other weird creature x human ships. But yes in the early 00s they have probably been so popular they'd have gotten their own booru or something the fanfics would have been insurrmountable. Well I mean that gave me some ideas what is a girls "innocence"??? But yes benaddon is fun too but that one genuinely feels more sibling but I definitely am not against it but just ben and abaddon really are so goofy together. One thing holding me back is ben being a top when you know damn well he's a massive bottom I mean they are just in the "acceptable" way which is cutest shotacon stuff and putting him in dresses and getting fucked. It's a sad bias but hey one day we'll get back to based.>>155926297Stuff like this makes me hope we get demon abaddon meets esther, ironically be hilarious if she's actually scared of him.Yeah true not many candidates but good stuff>>155926452Truly would have and yeah not for everyone, I'm honestly accepting just for some friendship stuff too.>>155926590More because of the current year and fact people actively post shit like "not a ship" all over their images of esther and abaddon. But I see it too 90% of edits tiktoks and art are esther and abaddon if you have to put you don't ship it all over the image it's kind of a bit gaslighty that you know what it is/looks like but want to ignore it. Also a very new concept in the past if you posted art and people saw as ship you gave no fucks but because now you can get backlash for ships people have to be super careful about it sadly
>>155928820>one day we'll get back to based.from your mouth to god's ears. I can't be so optimistic though.>backlashhow many times do they have to fail to avoid it before they give up and accept it as inevitable? jees.
>>155926720Really? but I can see it a bit mostly because normies are more going to anime ironically>>155927117Someone should draw badass abaddon in some warhammer armor now.>>155927372Sad to see and so many good ships and concepts died because of that. I've even seen people trying to moralfag IZ now. Saying zim x dib or gaz is bad because old alien. That's like rewriting the holy text that's such a classic and one of the iconic fandoms.>>155927645This is also true why those "doc" things are becoming popular just someone writing a bunch of random bs and using buzz words. Like the recent one a weirdo made on the silent hill artist that was mostly just circumstantial and childish.
>>155927117I'd like Warhammer Abaddon dressed casually and hanging out with the family.
>>155928886I heard someone defending michael moore the other day, which.. really got under my skin. How debunked does a person have to be? well, I still see people shilling Malthus, so I guess.. more than that.
>>155928820>spoilerMaybe Ben calling himself the little brother will clue people in. It doesn't matter if he's the bigger one of the two, he's not topping ANYONE. i WILL make people see the joy of shotadom goddammit!>>155928886>I've even seen people trying to moralfag IZ now. Saying zim x dib or gaz is bad because old alien. That's like rewriting the holy text that's such a classic and one of the iconic fandoms.That's been going on for a while. ZADR is legitimately older than pretty much anyone bitching about it though, it's not really gonna go anywhere.
>>155928854True but I mean it's definitely getting a bit better mostly because most antis as some call them end up being somehow much worse.I guess forever remember how hard people pushed heasther just to be anti estherdon. Which lowkey ruined a bit of the ships momentum nothing is worse than a actually decent or potential yuri ship ruined because people just want to kill the het ship.>>155929180Then the inverse that or the two of them fighting together.>>155929360I don't have enough context sadly but also I know michael moore though what did he do anyway he's pretty cringe. But bleh don't care enough better to keep more Hauntedhotel but I get the basic point.
>>155929456Bless you anon, I support your noble fight That's the true irony, and funny thing is I notice it always starts by the lgbt shippers sadly. They do it in pursuit of killing off the het ship like zagr. Then people use it against them, as of more recent the whole Zenless thing where people called guys into the faceless mc x the girls as lolislop. But then they also started shipping the girls and people asked isn't it just /ll/ now? I feel bad for people who are just chill into gay ships or yuri that people lump them with the schizo ones.
why hasn't more fanart emphasized Esther's cute puppybrows?
>>155929662hnngg>abaddon get ipadi hope not..
>>155929662we need more bath art of this show in general. they're in a hotel! hotels are all ABOUT baths. just ask uhh Eloise. and uhhh Paddington Bear I think
>>155929180>>155928886>>155927117>THIS VESSEL DEMANDS YET ANOTHER BLACK CRUSADE!
>>155929921Abaddon really would be a problem if he is given a weapon. Esther is a fake idgafer and says they threaten with murder but abaddon has tried or caught many bodies and most just for fun. He'd love the warhammer universe, get this kid some video games and he'll be good
More lewd Esthers please and thanks mister showrunners
>>155929921>>155929180>>155927117This kind of makes me think an episode focused around a cursed table top game or something could be kind of funny
>>155929975I can imagine someone has tried to get Abaddon onto video games before and he just bounced off them. Like the thing with the computer mouse, he usually barely manages to follow most instructions and buttons on devices just confound him.He might enjoy watching someone play a violent game but>Esther probably isn't all that into video games>Ben wouldn't be into violent games>Nathan can't play them>Katherine both doesn't know how to play and wouldn't want any of the kids around violent games anyways
>>155929975it is kinda funny that we still love him as a character even though we now know canonically that he fucking slaughtered several people he considered good friends, because he doesn't understand a single conflict does not make you blood enemies.
>>155930100shit, it's hard to get someone over 50 to play video games, I'm sure it'd be flat-out impossible for him.why would Katherine ban violent games? she was born in like 1990
>>155930127In hell it probably does, just goes to show he’s stuck in that mindset for a lot of things because nobody really took the time to explain otherwise
>>155930127But he's so cute!>>155930134Would be funny if Katherine got WAY too into it. "I think I'm scared of your mom" indeed.
>>155930100Think it'd be interesting enough to get him addicted. Damn he really has no shot of playing you are right, esther is more likely to play than ben but she has the least free time. Esther and abaddon are always together at night or doing something similar. So she's more a reader and schemer doing witch stuff to play any games. But could be a episode ironically esther gets obsessed with a game.>>155930127True esther was lucky she's his little "blip" because based on those scenes the pit isn't the "Death" he kills them first then tosses them in the pit. Unironically he said no one escapes but we see he kills them so of course no one escapes guess abaddon didn't want to bloody his hands with esther.Esther needs to stop forgetting he's a shockingly strong demon in a kid body. Also kind of cool abaddon canonically knows how to use guns now. If he could use a flintlock he definitely could use a modern gun.
>Katherine went to art schoolOh, she was doomed from the start.
>>155930229A lot of impressionable young women fall for that pitfall sadly but yeah. Definitely didn’t help her situation. At least her meltdown got her out of a fine.
>>155930023They'll never do it
>>155930186that's a good point, but the impression I got from the montage is that none of those people, monsters, demons, etc expected this response
>>155930198Abaddon would get addicted to a fucking tiger handheld>>155930229I like what a realistic loser Katherine is. she's not even irritatingly mom-ish, she's just doing her best.
>>155930393I agree, the one exception being the demon who also seemed pissed and knew what to expect
>>155929662He really is the family's misbehaving cat.
>>155930696seems like his nails would always be short from breaking on shit...
>>155928749I rewatched the show recently and yeah, the water dude is great.
>>155931147Alright I finished this just because I liked itand for a bonus nakey version https://files.catbox.moe/ioaa4r.jpg
>Cowboy ghost isn't even a real cowboy>just died on Halloween and leaned into the gimmickFucking killed me, I love this show.
>>155931360either a lot of people liked that, or there's a bot repeating that sentiment in a variety of waysI'd believe either. that was a great joke.
>>155931259Nice, I was hoping you would finish it, great stuff.Also, does anyone have those character turnaround sheets from a while ago? They'd be very useful.
>>155931408Nevermind, found them after a quick search.https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/150532209/#150560214
>>155931470Cool
>>155931539What about homersexuals?
>>155931360I’m not going to lie, I liked it better when he was a genuine 1800s cowboy, but it was funny all the same
>>155931770WHAT ABOUT US?
>>155927004>That eye narrowing SO present day Abaddon in behavior.
>>155928149Love how we saw True Form Abaddon stand up dramatically and point…….during basically an argument about a tree being pruned.
>>155930402Makes Katherine hot. Totally jealous of Joel.
>>155922470https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6WA9WNAHi8
>>155932348So happy at the implication he's always been such an autismo
Can definitely get some cool art out of Abaddon's true form.
>>155922470I hate that Im genuinely surprised they didnt make Nathan gay. I expected it so much because Netflix.
>>155932348He look better like this.
>>155934278Nah, looks too literal to the silhouette which we know had a bit of stylization to it. I do like how buglike it is, though.
>>155934717My problem is that Abbadon is like a Demon lord, here he look to simple to be a demon lord.
>>155934278I think that fans version is best, but this form is a bit to goofy to me certain elements work but the style makes it feel like it could be a monster in a kids cartoon.>>155934717I agree with this >>155934781Could have been a younger abaddon, also maybe something like the crown or emphasizing his size or something.
>>155934278>>155934781I think the more traditionally demonic look fits Abaddon's vibe better.Really I mostly just wish they kept the (potentially) multiple horns and 3 tails from the silhouette. Those felt a bit more unique
>>155933659They definitely could have done it but they resisted the urge. Hoping it lasts with everyone else too.
>>155931259Damn nice anon, though should be bruised a bit more since we all know esther can't fight lol. But she would pull the randy with the no bell thing thinking she's rocky.
>>155934938I don't know why they didn't but why I wonder if maybe we might get a updated version
>>155935697Cute, but I hate that Ben has to be stuck with that outfit and not Esther
>>155935697>that Ben
>>155935756obviously done so they can avoid being lynched sadly but yeah it’s unfortunate
>>155935756I could see ben agreeing just because well he's ben. Esther doing a magic show to show up some magician kid would be funny though. Damn that is actually a good episode concept.>Magician girl gets popular at school for basic street/parlor magic>Esther tries to show off real magic but it traumatizes kids>She gets pissed how popular the magician kid is>Decides at talent show to show them up by becoming a magican too>Cut to magician girl is a real witch but knows normies prefer basic stuff>Magic battle on stage>>155936092Sad this is the modern art/creative space
>>155936092>he doesn't think there are shotacons in the Funny Shota Demon show fandom
>>155932348>>155932903>where is the property line, Azazel?!?!>look man, it was simple mist->WHERE IS THE SATAN DAMNED PROPERTY LINE!?!?? HMMMMM!?!?Love this little eldritch goofball
>>155934859>Could have been a younger abaddon, also maybe something like the crown or emphasizing his size or something.Not a Bad theory.
>>155934781I expected the eyes to be a lot more ominous from the silhouette>>155934938Agreed, but the other horns were clearly meant to be a crown
>>155934781The way his chest mouth closes really makes me want to see something like >>155924900 with his scar.>>155937416>sickos Randy100000/10
>>155931470do you think they actually do that all by hand, or have they figured out a line tool that does all six of those layers at once
>>155937416>>155937465He does like seeing kathy work out
>>155934781I think he's a way, way lower lord than we thought in season 1. Kind of a Zim situation. he THINKS he's high tier, or maybe deludes himself and others, but is not.
>>155937416I think in the original silhouette you could see it as either part of the crown are a second set of horns. Either way I like the curved shape of the big horns more than the more antelope-like ones of the final.Also prefer the shape of the top claws more too. They look sturdier and sharper than the final's more flimsy pincers.
>>155937209Yep hope esther gets to see this form at some point. Also hope esther's actually scared of it could be a fun episode start. >Esther is running from a huge creature >It has a croaky and twisted voice saying her name >"E...es..ther" just over and over. >Then we the audience realize maybe 5 mins in it's abaddon>But esther is scared to death>Maybe she thinks she summoned a demon from hell>Or maybe she thinks a spell went wrong>Even better if as she's running all her magic traps aren't working and demon form abaddon is just straight tanking her best spell work>The whole rock paper scissors thing and all
>>155937802the silhouetted ones are barbed, while the final ones are multi-pronged. one's better for stabbing, the other's better for gripping.he can probably shapeshift at least a little.
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>>155937777>just like Zim, he was sent to earth because they were tired of dealing with his annoying assCould be fun
What if they introduced another demon and Abaddon gets a crush on her but Esther gets jealous and the whole time everyone's like "oh no new demon is gonna take over esther like abaddon did" but she doesn't because she was using Abaddon to get a signed letter of recommendation at demon college.
>>155937777I prefer him being a big deal that just lost his way, being just a rando is a waste of the name abaddon. Plus to much lore is connected to him now>Canonically had a castle>Was a gatekeeper and decided tortures(usually a big deal in most demonology)>Him being revived/given power(makes him god tier and brings hell to earth)Abaddon being a run of the mill demon makes no sense with that loreAlso holy digits>>155937840This image is hilarious he definitely is demon zim, I can see him being a real lord but just so crazy they sent him to earth.
>>155937845I'd be down for more demon kids in general. Idea of abaddon being used for his dwindling "street" cred is hilarious though. I do also remember the talks of introducing his inverse aka a angel kid. Maybe they are a fuck up angel and sent to kill a demon lord to rise in ranks and esther has to stop them because they are fooling abaddon
>>155937896That's exactly how I'm seeing it. He's exactly as powerful as he's described himself to be, but everyone's tired of him blowing up half of Hell every time he has an autistic meltdown.
>>155937896Yeah I agree. The bigger deal he is as a demon, the more humorous contrast there is to the pathetic state he's in now.Also agree with the points you made. Abaddon is a canonical name, unlike Mortoth who as far as I can tell was made up for the show. And it wouldn't make sense if empowering some rando caused the Apocalypse.>>155937954Best way to do it.
>>155937954Abaddon revealed as a prince/king of hell but he was such a dick anyone that knew him he killed or they are happier he's gone/dead.>>155938030Exactly plus I'd hate the idea of the classic "ah abaddon was just a kid demon/good demon" headcanon I already see from ep 4 and the ama. It's better if he is a monster but one that is slowly learning human emotions other wise then the contrast dies off. If he was just a bullied demon.Exactly the apocalypse is always a pretty big deal. Why when moroth was revived or the rabisu demon neither of them broke the world and brought hell why only abaddon???
>>155936197He is goofy enough for it, but just once I’d like to see Esther doing something similarly raunchy. >>155937777>>155937896I don’t think he’s a quite a nobody but it’s clear he isn’t that high up on the totem pole just based on things like how Mortoth in the first episode treated him, which is fine since it’s funnier that way imo.
>>155938155True nothing wrong with wanting a lil girly esther noticed a lot of artist loved the younger esther's outfit since it confirmed her body type more.
>>155938155Honestly think it's the inverse since he literally was his neighbor. Don't think losers get castles but think it's funnier if he was a bigger deal demon now trapped in a child. Like a lot of those goofy characters that are sealed monsters like caged demonwolf and the likes a entity that is top tier but now is just a pet or a item.
>>155938155I think Mortoth could tell Abaddon was a demon, but couldn't recognize him in the vessel, obviously.Then he tries to make awkward small talk, which I think is the norm when dealing with Abaddon because he's generally an asshole and not easy to talk to.When he sees Abaddon is powerless, he just smacks him out of the way cause he knows Abaddon can't do shit back.
Hope demon esther returns. We need her and abaddon to interact maybe that one anon is right it's setting up truly possessed esther episode
>>155938472Exactly. Thanks for the Esther btw I always need more of those.>>155938497>>155938672Well the bottom line is he was apparently enough of a non-presence to him that Mortoth somehow managed to forget him completely which is quite the accomplishment since if Abaddon is anything to go by they seem to have very extensive memories, although it’s possible that’s only for things that catch their notice, since Abaddon has forgotten stuff too.
>>155937919>>155937845holy shit it never actually occurred to me that we could actually get more Abaddons running around, it seems that possession has some conditions they need to fulfill first before they can do it otherwise they would probably be doing it all the time but there should be someone else who can manage it eventually. kind of hope it’s a girl since that does sound funny.
>>155937829oh damn. you just toss that together?>>155937845a reverse Weirdie situation? huh..>>155937896>>155938155it's hard to say. every time they give us info about him, I wonder just how great that even was by demon standards.. I mean he worked at a bar. At the very least, he wasn't SPAWNED powerful, he had a previous, less-powerful time in his life.
>>155938697see this is why I was impressed by the goat legs of the other one. This one didn't manage.
>>155939070According to those 'Abaddon reviewing Netflix shows' promos, Torture school is a thing that he went to.And if you take the AMA seriously, his first job was just poking eyeballs. So it's likely he wasn't born into greatness, but eventually arose to it over countless millennia in some way.
>>155939347>5m>1 upvote
>>155939411It's a screencap from twitter.>>155939347I mean, first and foremost it's a comedy. Most of the lore will be subject to "whatever is the funniest"That being said, "Abaddon wasn't as big of a deal as he made himself out to be but was still pretty important, managed to fuck that up anyway by being too weird even by demon standards" is a solid enough comedy beat.
>>155926590I think it’s a combination of it being het and the age gap or some shit. Luckily I haven’t encountered people like that thought, mostly Korean artists and others who don’t give a fuck.
