You goofs let both threads fall off the board while I was sleeping. Will be storytiming Issue 4 of Eddie Brock Carnage in a bit to continue. Previous threads:>>155916090>>155888355
>>155922785Eddie Brock Carnage #4Check previous threads for previous issues.
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>>155922785I hops you guys have actually gone out and bought the latest Venom at your local comic book store.
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>>155925860I haven't had an opportunity yet, hope they haven't run out of issues.
>>155925007>He seemed like my kind of guyNice.https://youtu.be/X4v-sXMMKDE?t=44
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>>155929356Issue #10, the final part before Death Spiral.
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>>155930098Carnage, Carnage is the key to all of this. We've never had a character as funny as Carnage before.
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>>155930182And with this shocking revelation ends Eddie Brock Carnage!But fear not true believers, for the Death Spiral event penned partially by Charles Soule himself picks up right where we've just left off, stay tuned! We'll be right back!
>>155930195Based. Loved this.
>>155930579It was a really fun run, gives me a lot of faith that the new Venom run will go somewhere interesting and enjoyable.
>>155930195Get ready for the most comtroversial event of the year...Death Spiral!
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Going to sleep now, will finish the Death Spiral storytime tomorrow. Bump if you're reading, personally I think Death Spiral was an underrated event, there were definitely a few missteps, almost entirely in the Kelly issues, but overall it was a great crossover between the three books with Charles Soule definitely bringing the most to it.
>>155922785Does anyone know how long the old archived threads can still be viewed for?
>>155931260I’m not actually sure
>>155931150If Kelly wanted to be involved he did a bizarre job showing it, and Ewing's continued sacrifice of panels and characterization to the living black hole that is Rabin did the event no favours.If the best thing from the comic is the slaughter of a new character, whether that be the sudden non-existence of force children or the full-frontal to a stabbing, then you've done nothing but stoke ill-will for years prior and banked that for some sort of catharsis. There wasn't. Shit's still damaged and people are still relieved VenoMJ is over.
>>155922785thanks anon.
>>155922785Chuck Soule is one of the most boring writers to ever touch pen to paper.
>>155931260desuarchive is your friend
>>155933298This is cope from a seething bitter bitch nigger named Brian Michael Bendis.
>>155931808The best thing from the comic wasn't the killing of Paul, it was the classic Maximum Carnage style play off between Eddie, Peter, and the Symbiotes.
>>155931129Death Spiral Continues... Sadly in an issue not penned by our hero Charles Soule, we'll have to tolerate this bitter pill while we wait for more Soule.
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>>155934820Venom fans, Eddie Brock heads, and Soulebrothers. The real question is who doesn't care? We're back, baby.
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>>155935403>more ric, guilt trips and whoopieGood god the Kelly part was a nadir
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>>155935512It really was, and it makes you wonder who Kelly has dirt on to get Amazing Spidey.
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>>155935764>when you were dumb and droolingWhat Venom comics was Kelly reading? Just the covers?
>>155935567He is BND, that's it.Unironic Gwengoon.
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>>155936750Kelly can't write MJ.Yes I know the context, no that doesn't make this better.Remember when MJ was able to discern between Ben and Peter? And could see through impersonators?
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>>155937111Can he write anyone, desu? I cringed a few times with his Eddie dialogue where he clearly doesn't get the character. Mary Jane, though. It seems like the take on her from the Marvel Offices is insufferable bitch. Either they hate her, or they just have really warped views on what makes people likeable.
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>>155937146>le Staten Island is le bad because of duh rich White people, theh're duh real criminalsKelly is perhaps the biggest cuck to ever live.
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>>155937139Kelly's dialogue suffers extreme howdoyoudofellowkids energy, and everyone sounds the same and speaks as if they share the same background.It's like when Aunt May said her doctor was mansplaining about the risks of multiple miscarriages to her. Aunt May wouldn't use that phrase, that's not what that phrase means and that phrase doesn't make sense in that context unless you're highlighting how reckless she's being.His dialogue and character voice are very shallow, and the plots are the kind of shit parodies come up with.
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>>155937182>It's like when Aunt May said her doctor was mansplaining Dude... She's like a thousand years old.
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>>155937383Aunt May is a undead creature that exists to be a guilt sponge for Peter, and is not allowed to be more or have agency.Like I said, Kelly can't write different backgrounds and tries to insert modern slang that doesn't work.This is what happens when you double down that a character is for the youth, and then have boomers and late Gen X write them. Stories aren't universal anymore, and the relevance to the youth falls to the generational divide.I now remember prior to the Mac shit Aunt May arriving to comfort Peter which she has never done in any arc in recent memory. Basically telling the audience everything that is about to happen because foreshadowing is done with bricks.
>>155937455How long until Aunt May gets a symbiote?
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>>155938581>Carnage Rules>Image says "Carnage Ruled"What the fuck do the editors at Marvel even do?
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>>155938877It's always the Symbiote/Other speaking, I swear MJ only gets dialogue at the very end of the event.Are they afraid of what's actually going on in her head? Do they not know?
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>>155938906>do they not knowYou know, that's an interesting question. That maybe none of them even know how they're allowed to even write her.
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>>155939211MJ's inner world has been a mystery for several years, the closest thing we got was her long rant against The Other which was a whitewash pinning it all on Eddie, it was Venom the partnership that did that shit. Then she took on the name of her abuser because comic books.We don't get any inner monologues because then we might get introspection about the things we aren't allowed to examine in detail, like getting tricked into being parent-trapped into your living nightmare and her behavior with others.Ultimately the office is full of clueless cowards, I wish Soule luck in getting some guts and testosterone, even cheap shots at Iron Man for Civil War are appreciated.
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>>155939369Did he get a hard no and had to change plans or was able to sidestep it?
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>>155939590Combination of the stolen upgraded Shocker gloves and Carnage orchestrating the whole thing. Torment was really just Carnage's pawn, I think people were disappointed with this event because they expected Torment to be the big bad when really he was just a mook that Carnage was using to fuck with Eddie after Eddie considered killling Carnage in the end of Eddie Brock Carnage.
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>>155942724Worry not, Soulebrother. For relief is here!Death Spiral Part 5!
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>>155930834>most comtroversial event of the year...You mean the most nothing of burgers.
>>155945092All it did was sweep up the actually controversial (because fucking terrible) mess still left by Wells, but badly. MJ is still yet to come to terms with what she did because to hold her accountable is to hold the office accountable.
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>>155945438She was a victim in all of that shit, all they need to do is hold Paul accountable, you dipshit
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>>155945514Did Paul rape her? No. MJ is not a victim, she is a victimizer.
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>>155945514They won't though, and so MJ is wholly responsible.Yes it is bullshit, no it won't be changed.
>>155944258>If I want to hear how much I suck, I can search online for #NotMySpider-ManUgh fuck off with that shit writing.
>>155925860The jarring jump back to hobo antihero Venom is too blatant in nostalgia baiting fanservice for my tastes. I bought The Amazing Venom instead.
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>>155946373>it's nostalgia baiting to portray the character as he isYeah, it'd be so much better if they just made Venom into a totally different character so people who hate him can go, "Finally, Venom doesn't suck anymore now that a completely different character has been given his name and superficial appearance."Fuck you, bitch.
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>>155945755Yes Paul raped her by omitting a lot of things.>>155946122She's wholely responsible only if you want to assign her the blame of the shit Wells wrote in. With more things about Paul being revealed, its open that he was manipulating her throughout the thing. All we need is a more competent office.
>>155946373>I bought The Amazing Venom instead.Based Boomerang Buff
>>155946373I wanted the symbiote to split into two, keep the heroic shit in one part, and let the other part become Venom with Eddie again. Would have worked better, we already have a bunch of legacies anyway
>>155946514>why do you hate me so much?I dunno, if Dylan really wanted to go all in he could mention the entire world of people that would still be alive if not for your negligence, you bizarre fucking character.
>>155946582>Paul raped her by omitting thingsYou're trolling, right?
>>155946629Your opinions are shit and you're a fucking idiot.
>>155947090NTA but White and Ewing fucked up by forgetting Paul knew about the time dilation, meaning MJ's reasoning in ANV for her giving up was because Paul apparently never told her, with obvious implications.
>>155947114I just don't see how anyone could actually pretend MJ isn't responsible for cheating on Peter with Paul...Robbing Peter to pay Paul... Oh my god, I just realized Paul is literally a pun. That's so fucking stupid.
>>155947209The paper-thin excuse that falls apart when you think about it more than the writers trying to cover Wells ass is that MJ thought he was dead, and moved on.The problem is her behavior is entirely irrational of someone who found out the love of their life was alive, and then rescued them from hell, and was more akin to someone found and rescued from a cults conclave. Love isn't like a coat you just take off, MJ never fell out of love with Peter, she mistakenly thought he was dead for far lesser reasons than in the past where she could be shown a fucking corpse and still be in denial. It's because Wells wrote a mystery box and somehow recreated Avengers #200, the office is just doing somersaults to avoid the obvious fact they did this AGAIN.
>>155947251What's this Avengers 200 I keep hearing about? And is Zeb Wells blacklisted from comics now?
>>155947275>What's this Avengers 200 I keep hearing about?Marvels silly little Captain Marvel was brainwashed and raped in an alternative dimension and all the Avengers clapped plot.>And is Zeb Wells blacklisted from comics now?Yes and no.He's generally got better prospects in film/television than the small fish that is comics. As far as industry insiders go he is as much a part of the Cronyism bullpen as any, so he can still rely on many friends within it.But his reputation is absolute burning wreckage among the actual audience.
>>155947287It's a shame he went full retard because I remember he had written a fee decent minis years ago, two Carnage ones and then Anti-Venom New Ways to Live, although he did write Venom: Dark Origin which was fucking awful.
>>155947094Harsh...
>>155946508Nah, it'd be better if they brought the character back in line to basically how it is in the book, but in a way that feels earned and actually written to instead of just skipping right to it.But you wouldn't understand that because you're a philistine
