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She’s better than Gwen in every way.
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“Baby got back!”
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>>155938064
is the dumptruck ass canon now?
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>>155938099
I like to think so
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>>155938099
Proportions aren't real. Wolverine is the most famous example where he can jump a foot, but generally just depends on who is drawing the characters.
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This scares the ol’ Marvel boys club.
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>>155938064
It's simple. MJ is representative of that hot chick from high school that they never thought the had a chance with only to find out later that she married some rando in your 1st period science class. It's a "should have been me" kind of seethe projected onto a fictional character. Gwen, on the other hand, is that hot chick from high school that was sorta nice to them but died in a car crash halfway through freshman year so they think they could have had a shot if it weren't for her mom's Toyota landing upside down 80ft at the bottom of an embankment after hitting a patch of black ice.
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>>155938277
This is oddly specific.
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Multi-faceted reasons, but basically she is the next step of the Silver Age story they refuse to believe wasn't the Evergreen they could milk infinite stories from.
So they tried to kill her character, and now they have tried and possibly succeeded in killing 616's reputation. Only they haven't replaced it with anything.
They bet the house with OMD and it's very clear the gamble failed, we're still waiting on the story that made this travesty worth it.
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>>155938064
Is it true that Joe Quesada was going through a divorce during the OMD storyline?
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>>155938264
When are they finally going to be gone?
It's the same goddamn guys from twenty/thirty years ago.
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>>155938181
Unless you're an indie comic. Then you can canonically have a big butt, God bless them
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>>155938277
Culture that worships death because they see living as flawed.
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>>155938634
Gwen only became so angelic after she died, it's bizarre revisionist history where they overbought into their own myth to make the tragedy deeper. Peter and Gwen were more dysfunctional at their best than Peter and MJ at their worst prior OMD.
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Gwen could never let Peter be friends with Black Cat.
She can’t even handle Peter being Spider-Man. And if she ever found out, she’d make him give it up forever. That’s something those old fogies never consider.
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>>155938064
DAMN son!
MJ must be like 1/8 black to have that booty.
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>>155938764
Peter confirmed ass man seeking dump truck.
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>>155938784
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>>155938064
They obviously don't hate her. They just don't want her with Peter because they're scared.
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How does her reputation recover?
Is 616 just cooked, and we need to get our MJ's elsewhere?
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>>155938332
Joe isn't divorced, he just acts like it.
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>>155938932
I don’t think any marvel character has been in a good state for the last decade or so
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>>155939141
Oh it's been rough, but MJ was done in with Didio levels of weapons grade spite.
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>>155938924
Why are they frightened?
They’re suppose to be grown men.
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>>155938064
She reminds me of a young Gianna Michaels.
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Marvel is afraid of this
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>>155939192
Because Marvel is afraid of the marriage or the promise of it. Peter and MJ could've been a couple after Spencer left but Marvel immediately broke them up and burned the bridge as best as they could. Paul's only purpose was to make it harder for people to want MJ to get back with Peter. That's not tinfoil hat talk because look at OMD. Peter makes a deal with the devil. Marvel just doesn't want the marriage to return in any way.
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>>155940330
It's the same people who did away with the marriage still there, this hyper-specific minority in power out of step with the wider IP and fanbase.
They haven't learned. They won't learn. The only winning move is just to wait for them to retire.
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>>155940433
I’m not sure if I can last it another 20 years
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>>155938064
Nobody cares about marywhore
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>>155940668
I think we're in the tail end of this cycle, they are aged and were out of ideas a decade ago. It's just job security and clear careers end that's keeping people like Brevoort there despite clearly having long checked the fuck out.
I give it about five years, of course by that point license may well be gone, but Dead Language needs to be amputated like a tumor, not ignored.
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>>155940746
Shut it Lowe
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>>155940799
They’re moving to California so I’m assuming there in it for another decade if not more.
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>>155938064
Pissing on Quesada's grave when he dies
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>>155940808
It's more an age thing, these are guys pushing 60.
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haven't kept up with spidey verse in like 13 years. can anyone give me a summary of how hard marvel has fucked over MJ's rep recently?
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>>155940961
Fuck man think of the most retarded thing you can.
It was outdone by Wells.
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>>155938064
She sucks now MJ has been obnoxious and unlikeable almost as long as she's been good now. Best mj is from elseworlds/side stories sadly
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>>155943503
That's every Marvel character now
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What's ironic is that all indications are that Felicia is the one with a gigantic ass
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>>155943704
She’s the one with huge tits
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>>155943704
>>155943787
They both have huge tits and fat asses.
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>>155943704
Felicia's ass is more toned. MJ's ass is fuller. Years of eating May's wheat cakes does that to a body. Look at Peter.
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>>155938064
Because in their eyes, Peter must be a jobless, loveless bum forever.
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>>155947228
It's this bizarre flannderization, he was never this bad under the original creators. Nor this friendless or isolated for such an extended period of time. If there is a point Kelly was trying to make, it shouldn't be made after the goddamn Wells run.
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>>155947241
>If there is a point Kelly was trying to make
The lesson is that the hero will always lose everything in the end and there's no point in following his story
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>>155947245
I mean yeah you have no excuse if you're still unironically buying 616 Spidey thinking there will be change from this office around the corner, from the same guys who brought you the last twenty years and never left.
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>>155947258
Let's be honest, most of the people buying Spider-Man comics nowadays are collectors and speculators
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>>155947291
Oh definitely, this is a bottlenecked unhealthy line that when Slott was shilling on CBR for #1000, first things he mentions are the variety covers.
Like fuck, that's the kind of thing the OG's were joking about in the letters, just selling the covers.
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>>155938483
Crazy that this got a whole show. I hope the rest of the comic isn't this blatantly lazy
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>>155938099
Absolutely is.
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>>155938483
And bless Kirkman/Ottley for Thicc Eve.
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>>155938784
I mean.... how can he resist an ass like this?
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>>155939783
Seems like, especially since DC is almost embracing it. And look how their doing. DC is kicking Marvel's ass right now.
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>>155947490
It’s kind of insane considering how well Rivals is doing, but I guess they don’t care because it’s a video game.
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>>155947513
Brevoort believes Rivals doesn't matter to the comics, thus there is no need to learn about the different depictions and popularity of which.
You cannot underestimate the current leadership of Marvel Comics, they have no bottom.
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>>155947482
By thinking Paul has been there.
Genocidal tech-bro dick all up in that, this is apparently MJ's kind of man.
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Pepes Mary Jane looks like she has Down syndrome.
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>>155940433
That or for their sales to sink so low that Disney steps in and MCU's it even more.
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>>155940896
I saw he was going to NYCC and I thought about having him sign a comic where MJ and Peter are in a loving embrace.
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>>155943704
That is true. She's often drawn and depicted with a killer ass. Even MR made sure she was stacked.
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>>155947710
This is why they did this. So that if Peter and MJ get back together they can have a little snicker and mischievously fellate themselves. The only way forward is complete retcon of Paul and a repudiation of the last 20 years.
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>>155947759
It's hysterical how Felicia in recent years has looked like the more stable, reliable and caring of Peters female friends. Like damn sasuga Lowe.
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>>155945960
And can you blame them for showing off? They are hot and they know it. A red head looks good with a proper ass.
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>>155947768
They unironically do think it's funny that they soiled MJ like this, especially when they get to further halo Saint Gwen muh Gwen be thy name.
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>>155946083
I prefer MJ's fuller, wheat cake fueled ass to Felicia's muscle.
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>>155947775
You can practically hear Carlos screaming from the panels how his art is being held hostage in these bullshit plots. Especially when compared his MJ in Amazing Mary Jane to ANV, she was almost never happy in the latter, he even pointed this out.
Sure would be interesting if she rubbed her two brain cells together and realised she's lived her worst nightmare from Parallel Lives.
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>>155947291
Agreed. I'm here for good stories and art. Not for the collectors market.
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>>155947513
MR is the only thing keeping Marvel afloat in my mind right now. All the titles in my pull list currently are DC because I genuinely enjoy their titles over Marvel right now.

I'm also surprised Marvel hasn't cashed in on MR success and capitalized on some characters new found popularity. They make a Squirrel Girl book with her MR design, I'd very much consider buying it.
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>>155947707
But they do!!!!!
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>>155938064
If you squint on mobile, the thumbnail looks like a side profile
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>>155947786
At this point, Carlos should go to DC. He'd kick ass on Nightwing. (Plus, I wanna see him draw a thicc Batgirl)
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>>155947734
Disney is never going to bring back the marriage. Period. They make decisions based on how they are advised. Neither Josh Demarro or Dana Walden will put any amount of thought into whether the marriage has Narrative value or is more entertaining. they could send an email right now tell them to bring the marriage back before Christmas but they wont. They will continue to be advised that Peter needs to be a fuck up and mamas boy.
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616 will never be un-PAULed.
Powergirl has actual standards. Modern DC Comics actually respects its female characters.
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>>155947862
Yes. Even Powergirl has standards.
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>>155947858
DC also enjoys a much better reputation for actual regular payments like a functioning company.
Marvel can't even get its inkers paid.
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>>155947867
>MJ looked at this and chose it
You would have been better off growing cucumbers lady, fuck is wrong with you? Raise those kids on the other side of the planet from the guy who orphaned them and wanted to leave them.
Also why did she never question why there are two random surviving children in the middle of nowhere?
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>>155947871
Exactly. I think about a post Jim Starlin did where he got a great paycheck from DC because KGBeast was in BvS. Meanwhile, he sees nothing from the MCU doing his biggest story.
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>MJ became her mother
Grim.
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>>155947862
>616 will never be un-PAULed.
Just the opposite they will continue to glaze him. There is goin to come a time when someone brings up MJ breaking up with Paul then Nick Lowe will insist she didn't and they were happy at the time of his death.
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>>155947241
>It's this bizarre flannderization, he was never this bad under the original creators.
I'm convinced the first Spider-Man comic Slotto ever read had Peter making a joke about "Parker luck" in it, and despite the line hardly being used at all in decades, that formative experience with the book convinced him that Peter is meant to have cursed-tier luck, to the point where he stayed on the book for around ten years and used the line in virtually every story, and now everyone who writes the book since follows his lead and perpetuates it, and it's gone on long enough that there's a large segment of the fandom who've just sort of accepted it and learned to expect it.
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>>155947894
This reminded her of Peter.
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Bless Frank Cho and his love of Wheatcakes.
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>>155947926
It's such diminishing crock, it removes Peter from the consequences and RESPONSIBILITY of his actions, and just makes him a slave to the whims of fate.
Prior it was his active agency, choosing inconvenience and even choices to his detriment for a greater good he thought it was his responsibility to serve. That is far more compelling and heroic that THAT DANG OL' PARKER LUCK shmaltz.
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>>155947932
Someone please ask Ewing how in the fuck Paul reminded her of Peter? It's an egregious insult she keeps repeating.
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>>155947897
Royalties for adaptations are a whole different thing to talent being paid in full and on time for the actual comic work. DC getting bought by Warner decades ago resulted in them having pretty good royalties deals from as far back as the 70s for your OCs getting used in adaptations, while it wasn't something that got much consideration in Marvel contracts.
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>>155947953
Well said
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>>155947962
Another reason why DC is better then Marvel. They actually (somewhat) care about their creators while Marvel bleeds them dry.
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How long until the collage of shame finally can be retconned or explained away coherently by better writers?
Do we need to wait until Lowe is gone and we can amputate Dead Language?
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>>155938064
What a grotesque off-model design, at some point it's not even lust for women but for a shape. Quite literally objectifying them.
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>>155947979
To be fair, 80s Marvel was apparently offering the talent better royalties than DC for how their comics sold, with adaptations it was probably less of a priority due to how much trouble they were having getting anything off the ground that wasn't a cartoon back then.

But both Marvel and DC have a history of refusing to renegotiate old contracts from decades ago so the talent get better royalties if they created something that really takes off, that goes all the way back to Superman, and it's not likely to ever change.
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>>155947991
>until Lowe is gone
You already answered your question
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>>155947960
They're both nerds and cucks.
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>>155948048
True, but nowadays DC creators clearly have more of a say. Vertigo being a prime example of creators working at DC, but their adaptation being more solely controlled by them. Jeff Lemire's Sweet Tooth comes to mind.
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>>155948082
Issue is Lowe, whilst the longest serving editor of ASM to its continued detriment, is also the youngest of the BND clique in his mid-forties.
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>>155948103
Then you better hope Disney gets pissed off enough with him to fire him
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>>155948112
#1000 was a big whiff comparatively to the numbers it could have had and its competitors enjoy on the regular. If that dead flock of caged canaries doesn't tip off a problem with the flagship mines, I don't know what does.
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>>155948116
Felicia is far less of a mess these days, even when she is hitting Punishers dog with her car.
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>>155948127
Lowe probably spends a lot of his time with Disney execs on his knees
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>>155948101
Vertigo is a creator-owned imprint published by DC, similar to the Epic imprint Marvel had in the 80s. The key difference is DC has had a rich parent company for decades, they could afford to run a line like Vertigo and take a loss on most of the books in the hope that it might occasionally produce something that could be the next Watchmen or Sandman. Marvel didn't have that rich parent company until Disney bought them, and Disney's own brand image makes them letting Marvel do something like Vertigo even less likely now that they can afford to take a loss on books they want to publish.
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>>155948154
>Brevoort says Marvel Comics is just an IP farm
>all they do now is grow gravel
Bravo Bullpen.
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>>155948135
People were really upset about that, I thought it was funny and i am a dog person.
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>>155948184
It's just terrible character writing because Felicia for all her faults has always been an animal lover, and so her doing a hit and run - and having to be held accountable by the goddamn punisher is just some weapons grade character slander to use in perpetuity. Her current series is really undermining her skills and reputation for the sake of cheap comedy plots where she's written as a dunce because that's easy.
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>>155948135
I've seen that sentiment as well a lot recently. The fact Marvel is so wishy-washy on a romance for Peter just shows how far the title has fallen. Either commit to Black Cat, MJ, or say fuck it and pair him up with Squirrel Girl.
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>>155948180
>IP farm
>Directors radically change the original idea so that it's less shit
What's the point?
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>>155948237
BND know they fucked up but are unwilling to throw in the towel, so we tread water on gimmick shit like amnesia plots on Aunt May in the hospital for #1000 because the title is actually sick in the soul due to a literal Faustian bargain that underpins everything.
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>>155948260
Yeah the amount of work to unfuck the comics into something coherent for the screen make it superfluous, look at how much BND the movie differs from BND the comics? We sure aren't starting with Peter doing frathouse notDrunk make-outs and sleezy notRape with Michelle.
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KILL COLLECTOR NIGGAS IF YOU WANT THE OMD CLIQUE FIRED
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>>155948279
The film was 10x easier to understand then the comic.
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Here's the real question in all this. Who does Peter prefer in the bed?
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>>155948353
MJ is the subbiest sub whoever subbed.
Felicia is a domme-leaning switch.
So it would depend on mood, pre-OMD Peter from interactions was definitely a dom. Passive post-OMD Peter doesn't have game.
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>>155948292
Surely the Mehistowank cabals aren't limited to OMD cliques. The matter of Ironheart who was whored out to Mephisto is exclusively an MCU thing.
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So is she fucking Flash or Tony?
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>>155948550
Wait for the mini to finish in five months to find out
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>>155948550
One of the editors glazed the fuck out of MJ and Tony's relationship while not even bringing up Flash once at the Spider-Man panel, so if MJ does end up fucking someone who isn't Peter, Paul or some random, I'll bet on Tony.
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>>155948550
The sooner Flash gets his Space Knight Anti-Venom arc, the better.
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>>155938064
why are you still reading capeshit, eyeballtank?
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>>155948550
I mean if they were just open about it and gave a definitive no to either I would consider buying the buy. If they came out and said this is a book about peter and mj reconciling/dating and going on zany adventures I would consider buying it. What is so difficult about. Right now im going to assume the book is about MJ fucking other men. Why would I want to read that? Why are all of her friends male. Is she allowed to have female friends that aren't black cat.
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>>155947768
No way.
Paul needs to stay orchestrated on MJ’s bed.
Paul is now the “Gwen Stacy” to Mary Jane.
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>>155943545
This is also true but mj is a side character so she barely had good screen time as is. But at least for every bad most heroes have a good arc or run. Mj at her best is a good mom or chill gf
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>>155949535
Red heads should always have fat asses.
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>>155947745
Kek
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>>155949438
why is this necessary for you?
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>>155938064
I honestly don't know. Was Queseda's wife a redhead?
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>>155938082
she's a whore anon.
touch grass.
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>>155952305
Nuke Poland
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>>155952305
That’s not a Mary Jane. That’s her daughter May!
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>>155952305
Miles is gay for gwens tranny cock, dan. You keep forgetting.
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>>155948237
It's funny that one of the justifications for OMD was giving Peter an active romantic life but the writers seem to be either uninterested in or very, very bad at writing romance. We either get half-baked dating without any spice or absolutely nothing at all. The marriage actually would be a crutch for these idiots because they don't need to create romance, they can just ride fans existing feelings and focus more on the support and intimacy that already characterized it. They certainly can't build anything on their own.
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>>155952597
Negative anon.
And why do you have fan art of that kind of stuff? I guess that’s your fetish.
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>>155940961

>>Didn't know Peter had his body hijacked by Dr Octopus and when she found out after the fact, told Peter she wanted nothing to do with him because she was tired of dealing with such insanity

>>Got trapped in a pocket universe controlled by an amoral scientist (Paul) who unleashed a Lovecraftian horror Peter had previously imprisoned upon the planet. Paul pretty much spent their time in the pocket universe (originally said to be several years but then retconned hard into being months) gaslighting MJ into falling in love with him, going so far as creating two orphan kids to baby trap MJ into being with him "for the kids" who ultimately vanished once Joe Kelly went behind editorial's back and explicitly stated Paul and MJ was married (again hard retconned as soon as it was declared) complete with Wells later being forced to state point blank MJ never had sex with Paul and explicitly showing that MJ never loved Paul but stayed with him out of Stockholm Syndrome.

>>MJ hid being the new Peter from Venom and held off telling him once she found out that Ben Reilly, who hijacked Peter's life while he was in outer space, impersonated Peter when she first told him and told MJ to fuck off.

>>MJ explicitly chose to let Death Spiral dude die, much to Peter's shock and desperation to have MJ scapegoat the symbiote for making her do it.
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>>155953048
>MJ hid being the new Peter from Venom
OMG, MJ is trans?!
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>>155953048
Bullshit. It wasn’t months it’s still was said to be years. That wasn’t retcon.
And MJ and Paul did bang.
No way MJ lasted 4 years not getting any?
Only a kid could think that way, not an adult.
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>>155953158
NTA but didn't they retcon it to it 'feeling' like four years had passed instead of four years actually passing?
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>>155953022
Nah, I just googled zesty miles and it's absolutely a positive Canon fact. Haven't you seen spider verse?
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>>155938064
They're jewish OP. They hate all redheads with a passion due to their ancestral rivalry with the tribe of esau. I won't get to deep into it but they're essentially like the jews evil twins and they all had red hair, so now jews hate everyone with red hair. I know it sounds crazy but it's true.
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>>155953048
>Wells later being forced to state point blank MJ never had sex with Paul
When was this said? Ewing would have retconned this again because they said Venom stopped them from being intimate.
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JIDF posting again...
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No but seriously how does 616 MJ recover from this?
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>>155953961
Retcon
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>>155953961
Marvel needs to make a public apology for the last 20 years, Like a major press conference. Like what Canada does everyother day for the Natives
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>>155953961
Recover from what?
She’s doing pretty good compared to others.
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>>155953823
Cuck faggot lmao
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>>155954050
Uh no?
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>>155954167
Paul, Flash, Miles….as long as it isn’t limp dick Peter.
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>>155943503
>MJ has been obnoxious and unlikeable almost as long as she's been good now.
So she returned to type?
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>>155953048
I think you may be confused about some things.
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>>155947905
>MJ became her mother
>Grim.
Such is the fate for women like her.
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>>155954240
Why's Miles on there
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>>155954258
Yes the people writing the book despise her. They can never create anything on the level of ditko, lee and kirby.
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>>155954050
Lowe pls we have all seen your Baghdad Bob impression, now let an actual writer address and fix your sustained fuck up.
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>>155954293
My guy, MJ as created by Lee and Romita was a free spirited party girl who dated around. A modern version would be posting thirst traps or worse, OnlyFans.
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>>155954293
I've often thought if Spider-Man were to launch for the first time back then with these people at the helm, he would have died in the crib.
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>>155954274
Would be nice if we had a moments introspection for it.
MJ acts like things just happen, that she has no agency, and when there is wind there is a whistling sound in her head.
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Reading through this thread has convinced me that that the only part of MJ that matters is her design. Not her character.
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>>155954240
You're a cuck nigga
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>>155954348
Her character has been annihilated root and stem for two decades, and her role and absence it used to serve has had a domino's effect on Peters now non-existing life.
They are both shells of former selves.
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>>155954320
Retard
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>>155954348
That's every female character.
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>>155954403
That all you got?
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>>155954381
>>155953823
>>155952305

If anything, MJ’s cousin Kristy Watson, needs to be the one to hook up with Miles.
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>>155954398
>Her character has been annihilated root and stem for two decades
What character? Oh, she comes from a broken home. Most of the X-Men come from broken homes. Why should I care about her generic backstory when a character like Emma Frost went through similar shit but way fucking worse? MJ's too pedestrian to be interesting for Spidey stories. She's boring.
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>>155954320
this is a stupid point. That's not how she was positioned originally in the Ditko run. After ASM 42 she and Peter were hanging out. Then Lee wanted to insert his wife into the series. Lee and Romita didn't despise her they way these writers do now do now. Comparing the current crop the og creators is ridicules.

Also she was 19 when first introduced, men and women are retards that make mistakes. She grew up, her character developed.

You don't understand these characters, Marvel Intern, or storytelling in general
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The Mj relationship was forced by Jerry Conway. She’s better as a friend and fap material not as an actual love interest.
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>>155954483
Emma sexually assaulted a crowd and tried to get X-23 to kill herself anon, why should I care about the pretty privilege principle character.
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>>155954486
>this is a stupid point
Not these days, no.
>That's not how she was positioned originally in the Ditko run.
Doesn't matter since she officially debuted under Romita.
>After ASM 42 she and Peter were hanging out. Then Lee wanted to insert his wife into the series.
Gwen debuted under Ditko, dude. Get your facts straight.
>Also she was 19 when first introduced, men and women are retards that make mistakes. She grew up, her character developed.
Let me guess. You'd marry the town bicycle because she "matured". Or maybe you're her backup boy after losing all her other options and she's finally picking you because she supposedly "matured".
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>>155954525
>type of girl you have fun with but not take home
I've read this shit from BND clique types for years.
Bullpen with madonna/whore complex pls.
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MUH
GWEN
MUUUUUUUUH
GWEEEEEEEEEN
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>>155954525
>The Mj relationship was forced by Gerry Conway.
Because she was his waifu.
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>>155954562
I don't know what kind trauma you're dealing with, but speaking generally, I'm sorry she cheated on you.

>Doesn't matter since she officially debuted under Romita.
She was still a character in the story. dismissing her before that is a kind of fiat that undermines the book.

>Gwen debuted under Ditko, dude. Get your facts straight.
I don't recall stating Gwen wasn't introduce in the Ditko run. I stated Lee wanted to insert his wife. So yes since you bring it, DItkos Gwen was a cunt at first then lee made her the main squeeze. If MJ is so terrible, Why did lee then later have peter Marry the whore.
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>>155954483
https://desuarchive.org/co/search/image/fAOHE9PJXDW3nHazJOSuYw/
Obsessed.
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>>155954860
Gwens personality changed like thrice during her time alive, they could never settle on strong character traits that weren't overshadowed by MJ.
She only got some harder line characterisation post-death, where there was an effort in making her angelic to make the death more tragic. They actively ignore the actual stop and start relationship of the living Gwen.
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>>155954525
it wasn't really forced at all and had proper development up to the first kiss. later writers didn't buy her dev so they dropped it, she still received decent treatment in spectacular though. She was never positioned as just a friend.
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>>155954907
Emmastans be like
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>>155954939
It is too impersonal to be that. Someone devoted to Emma would use actual panels instead of a Google AI summary. Also they would probably do it to dunk on a different redhead instead of someone not on Emma's radar.
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>>155954240
You're not beating the cuck allegations, also you're gay.
>>155954860
He doesn't like it when you bring up the history of these characters, it reminds how retarded his gay little fan fiction is. It's even worse when you realize it's Dan slott you've been talking too this whole time. He's the Spiderman shitposter and he's obsessed with gwen. Why do you think he made spidergwen?
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Do we just take MJ goddamn disintegrating as her karma for all the horrible shit said and staying with Paul, or does her punishment have to be more severe?
This is assuming the current circumstances aren't MJ and Peters continued divine punishment for OMD.
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>>155955824
She deserves no punishment. With Aunt May mindbroken by Ravage, we need MJ now more than ever in 2027.
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>>155955911
We need far greater character repair than the hatchet job done in the call-back park for that anon.
You can't just pretend something so infamous and so long didn't happen. Also Kelly is writing so it's a non-starter. Keep her away and out of focus until he is gone.
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>>155955942
No way.
After her miniseries ends bring her back to the Amazing title. MJ with her fang symbiote would be so helpful to Peter.
Especially with Ravage and Hellgate.
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>>155956045
This is a monkeys paw anon, you don't want Kelly writing her. This is like wishing she had twice the pages with Wells writing her.
When someone who has it out for a character you love is in charge, you just hope they are out of the limelight as much as possible.
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>>155954479
Miles only deserves Mephisto.
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>>155956141
How did Miles get over the fact he traded one Human life for another?
Also why is it always goddamn Kamala dying?
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>>155955911
>>155955942
The real problem is that she stayed with Paul after the kids were revealed to be binding magic and didn't return to the love of her life and franchise love interest.

Mechanically, the writers and editorial are cunts and they didn't want single Peter and single MJ interacting yet. They also seemed to double down on Paul with the Jackpot Books and felt the need to protect their initial decision to introduce Paul.

The break up with Paul didn't need to happen in venom. It could have happened long before, it should have happened right after dead language with MJ and Peter struggling to reconnect, with Venom War culminating in some kind of resolution. but then VenoMJ and Hellgate happen. Paul was not needed for any of this,.
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>>155954907
Oh wow. 4 posts a month apart. So obsessive for sure.
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>>155956397
Agreed on all points, unfortunately this is the canoe they decided to row on shit creek. So MJ now has to be rowed back to shore somehow. It would be easier without Lowe and Kelly drilling holes in the thing.
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>>155947867
Considering she goes for Frank after this says her standards aren’t that high.
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>>155956619
At least higher than MJ's.
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>>155956206
I wouldn't be surprised if it was a Mephistowank commentary on Obama and Kamala Harris. Captain America was also whored out to Mephisto after all.
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>>155947383
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I'll say it.
Black cat is just TEMU Catwoman.
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>>155957623
Don't even think about it, Tom King.
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>>155957623
She's just a regular bland-name product.
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>>155957623
>/co/ in 1979
You're right, tho.
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>>155956450
>So MJ now has to be rowed back to shore somehow.
why? unironically put her on a bus for 40 years and bring in a love interest who has less baggage with peter, like, i dont know, Betty Brant or JJJ
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>>155958623
>less baggage with peter, like, i dont know, Betty Brant or JJJ
Betty got goddamn married
JJJ is a hilarious angle, but do a platonic forced to cooperate thing.

You know what would be a good run? Peter and JJJ do a road-trip across America for some journalist scoop chasing thing. There, that's a run. Go do that, get the fuck out of NY.
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>>155958623
No. Mj is here to stay. Cry more.
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>>155958696
JMS wanted to do a roadtrip with all the Parker brothers and Marvel said no
Doubt it would fly for JJ
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>>155958623
Betty Brant is married and has a baby.
JJJ was Peter’s step brother.
Are you mentally well anon?
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>>155958796
So they say no to that but give an open door to Wells absolute nuke of a run?
Office has had some interesting priorities over the years.
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So this is the power of MUH GWEN
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>>155959014
Canon.
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>>155959019
Brevoort's not in charge of ASM, but it definitely explains a lot of the BND spite towards her over the years.
They are just petty trolls who think enragement is engagement.
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>>155959119
Embarrassing
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>>155959014
We need to gas all of the staff at marvel asap.
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>>155959014
Did he make >>155947867 in response to that twitter post? Are comics nowadays built on twitter drama?
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>>155959310
No, hilariously Gails comic comes months after that post.
Powergirl confirmed to have standards MJ does not.
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>>155959310
Comics have always been built on bullshit drama. Letters, randos at cons, message boards, chat rooms, whatever. Twitter is just the front facing example of the eternal bullshit.
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>>155959368
What about 4chan?
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>>155954452
You don't deserve anything else lol
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>>155938064
Miles is so lucky...
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>>155938099
>>155947468
Nta, but I prefer every prior comic to The Evil That Men Do where MJ was the one known for having a large chest.
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>>155947781
Bullshit. I read the 80's and 90's comics. She worked out and had a tight 80's butt.
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>>155947707
If I throw petrified gorilla shit at their faces will they wisen up?
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>>155948136
Can confirm. He enjoys eating petrified gorilla shit as well. Next time I shall prepare some for him.
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>>155948388
Sub-schizo, MJ is a sub only to Peter. We've seen all the covers and their interactions like in MK or Larsen's run. MJ can hold her own against Felicia.
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>>155948671
Which editor? Holy fuck are they delusional. Not one nigga ever gave a fuck about Bendis's Iron Man and MJ being there, out of place.
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>>155957623
I heard anons say the modern dynamic of playful flirting between Batman and Catwoman (they did that before somewhat as evidenced by Adam West's show and comics around then) was also influenced by Black Cat and Spider-Man. Am I mistaken?
Anyway, back to topic, MJ is a pretty kino relationship and all trolling attempts are as pathetic as Jeets.
>>155947926
They know what they are doing is bullshit. They did it so that they could take the easy way out and turn in pointless garbage with no thought behind it so they can collect Disney/Marvel IP welfare.
Slott? Yes, he too consumes petrified Gorrilla shit at all hours of the day.
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