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>Superheroes take over the world, openly.
>They're actually good at running things and life has gotten objectively better by every measure.
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>>155958087
Sounds boring and lacking in conflict.
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>>155958087
Changing the status quo makes it impossible for the average normalfag to relate to the story or something
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>>155958087
You mean like the Justice Lords?
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>>155958087
muh promotion of fascism
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>>155958087
>life has gotten objectively better by every measure
Better for whom?
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>>155958087
Miracleman
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>>155959399
make the heroine a rebel without a cause
it worked with Disney's Wish
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>>155959441
as shit as chatbots and ai are I ran a whole story with an over powered guy who beat the shit out of the justice league and the heroes. basically pointed out how the things they do (stuff in comics and the shows) are how they act and since it's canon oh it was fun. in the end the heroes and villains were all contained in my guys super magic void. blah blah shows the comics are just telling stories of tyrants. herose and villains and heroes are the ones watching the planet and screaming at gods as if bruce and clark mere mortals are in charge.
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>>155959441
I was going to say. Remember how clean the Lords' Gotham was? It's like the whole planet was turbo-Singapore. Brutally authoritarian, but clean and nice and safe.
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>>155960701
No no

This is MAD Men.
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>>155958087
The Maker did this
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>>155964078
Did it?
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>>155958087
Robot from Invincible was right
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>>155965593
Robot was a lameass villain sue right up until the creator needed him to die instantly against the protagonist.

And then Kirkman turned around post-series and says the cunt still managed to take over the world and turn it into a shithole AGAIN after being reduced to a brain in a jar since Emperor Mark was stupid enough to give him the opportunity, because it turns out Kirkman still couldn't stop sucking Rudy's dick even then.
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The Authority 1999 did that and the G7 eliminated them.
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>>155965739
>actually good at running things
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>>155965641
>Emperor Mark was stupid
To be fair I'd be more pissed if Kirkman didn't acknowledge this.
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>>155965771
He didn't really acknowledge it, since kirkman was still trying to push Emperor Mark the Retarded becoming god king of the universe as a Good End.
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>>155958087
That was the first half of Squadron Supreme, until Hyperion got replaced by an evil duplicate, Nighthawk threw a Bat-hissyfit, and they realized a system is only ever as good as its administrators and in the future they would all eventually die and be replaced.
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>>155958087
>>155959434
I want to mention the squadron supreme limited series but idk if they would count as "actually good at running things"
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Good
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>>155958087
Being able to fly doesn't automatically make you good at politics or government.
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>>155964977
It did
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>>155959399
Just make the protagonist a villain.
Or a soldier in peace times.
A lot of conflicts can still happen.
>they are good
They can have grievances even if they are good. Or differing opinions on how to improve society
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>>155967709
No! BAD!
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>>155965791
God, I hate Kirkman...
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>>155958087
Sure, hes barely considered a person by the Aliens in the book, but Marvelman seems to be doing a solid job despite slowly destroying humanity by replacing them with human/alien hybrids
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>>155958087
So a bunch of people with no skill or experience with governence or economics take over the whole world by virtue of the fact that they're really strong and can kill or incapacitate anyone who opposes them, and people think somehow it'll be anything other than a totalitarian shitshow? At least with invading aliens you could argue they at least have their own advanced civilization so they could probably fill in for ours pretty well. The only thing that makes these Supers any different from an average joe is shooting lasers, which is great for stopping criminals and monsters but not for solving famines.
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>>155969341
This pic EXUDES aura
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>>155958087
You're much too optimistic. ANYONE in power is bound to grow corrupt, especially if they're born with innate advantages.
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>>155958087
this ain't worm
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>>155965937
>but idk if they would count as "actually good at running things"
Why the hesitation?
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>>155976067
Isn't the point of corruption to gain more power? If you're already on top, why would you need corruption to further your goals?
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>>155958087
sounds like a terrible idea, eyeballtank
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>>155959399
And also doesn't satisfy Lord Moloch's sadistic desire to watch everyone suffer forever.
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>>155977459
Yes. That, too.
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>>155959399
That's why it's usually an ending. It worked for invincible.
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>>155975234
>aura
Faggot.
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>>155972831
Moore's a faggot who should have killed himself when his druid wives cucked him.
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>>155978201
It didn't work for invincible, it was just the hard pebbly shit-cherry on top of the shit sundae with how bad the writing of the series had gotten over time.
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>>155959399
>galactic threats suddenly appear and shitstomp the Justice Tyrants into oblivion
>the original Justice guys from our universe smugly goes "heh, we are constantly fighting so we're well prepared when Galactic Lord and his Galactic Army shows up. Being a tyrant is wrong!"
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What's stopping the super tyrants from picking up a Statecraft for Dummies book or putting a bunch of 4x tactics games into the virtual reality Danger Room and grinding out being a very skilled and smart leader? That's what I'd do if I got isekai'd and needed to be an overlord. (I know that half remembered Sun Tzu quotes and WoW auction house PvP won't be enough)
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>>155978805
>What's stopping Doctor Doom from existing?
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>>155977298
Not him but there were some citizens going against certain things
Also the military
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>>155978805
>isekai faggot
Throw yourself infront of a truck.
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>>155979461
Okay I'm in Marvel 616. What now?
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>>155978294
This is the response you get when someone makes good comics.
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>>155958087
Superman Red Son?
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>>155978290
Calm down unc
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>>155959507
Fascism’s failure is in the idea that people can’t be the super icons fascism needs. If it could, if the leaders WERE actual Supers, it would work.
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>>155977400
>If you're already on top, why would you need corruption to further your goals?
To make sure you stay there. That's why most countries are oligarchies now, because leaders know that the support of megacorps and their wealthy owners and investors is necessary to maintain their power. Otherwise they'd just switch their support to someone else and take all their financial and media clout with them.
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>>155961034
As the old saying goes, if you're willing to sacrifice freedom for security then you deserve neither
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>>155958087
>At first
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>>155980630
Fascism failed because it was an ideology based around war and its most notable leaders decided to fight a war they were obviously going to lose
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>>155973774
Who says anything about the superpowered "dictators" dismantling the old system and having nothing to offer themselves? All it takes for them to get called fascist is to actually enforce existing laws.
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>>155979438
Ah, okay.
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>>155958087
No no, see, we need bureaucracy and official oversight to micromanage the superheroes and make sure they don't permanently remove villains from society or make meaningful improvements in the lives of ordinary law-abiding citizens.
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>>155980901
BECAUSE they didn't have SUPERHEROES to do it all for them.
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>>155958087
FASCIST!
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>>155958087
>Complex fantasy setting where the beloved king dies
>His will is perfectly executed and his heir is just as beloved and competent

>Expansive space empire discovers elaborate plot to overthrow emperor
>They immediately arrest all the bad guys who confess and peace reigns again

>Boy meets girl, will they, won't they...?!
>They date a bit, have a happy courtship, get married, have kids, and both fund traditional IRAs to reduce their adjusted gross income

Good, meaningful story requires conflict. It's as shrimple as that.
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>>155983087
I prefer will they won't they when it's outside forces keeping them apart instead of two retards that won't say "I like you"
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>>155980574
no fuck off and die cen



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