>Matt Hagen is a rising actor from Gotham City who hooks up with the girlfriend of mobster Markus Szabo. Szabo retaliates by mutilating his face.>Matt unsuccessfully gets plastic surgery, and takes Szabo to court, but he has the case dismissed due to lack of evidence.>Matt finds out his accountant has stolen his money, leaving him bankrupt.>Matt reads about Dr. Caitlin Corr, a disgraced scientist who performs fringe experiments with stem cells, and volunteers to be a subject.>Caitlin’s serum restores Matt’s appearance, and they develop a romantic bond, despite Caitlin already being involved with Detective John Borelli.>The serum begins to wear out, so Matt takes another higher dose against Caitlin’s warnings and gains shapeshifting powers.>Matt learns his accountant works for Szabo and that his best friend was coerced into helping Szabo discredit his testimony, and kills them both. Borelli investigates the murders.>Borelli questions Szabo, who sends one of his goons to attack Caitlin. She is actually Matt in disguise and he kills the goon.>Matt infiltrates Szabo’s nightclub, kills Szabo’s girlfriend, his men and then Szabo himself.>Caitlin later asks Borelli about the investigation and he tells her he suspects Matt. She is actually Matt in disguise again and he kills Borelli to cover his tracks.>Borelli tasers Matt before dying, causing him to turn into his monster form. Caitlin catches Matt and uses her tablet to disable Matt’s cells, seemingly killing him.>Some days later, the media is covering Szabo’s murder, attributed to rival mobsters, and Matt’s mysterious disappearance, presumed to be a suicide.>Matt survived because the serum permanently altered his DNA. He has been living in the sewers and stalking Caitlin under different identities.>Movie ends with Matt shapeshifting into both himself and Caitlin and pretending to have a conversation in which Caitlin declares her love for him.
Gayface
>>155966219This is aparently getting good word of mouth but they're keeping the review embargo until one day before it opens
Does clayface ever turn into anyone that isnt his AGP fantasy?
>>155966278>This is aparently getting good word of mouthMostly from no-name influencers who always give glowing reviews in exchange for early access.
>>155966278>review embargoThis never feels like a good sign.
>>155966219No mention of Bats?
>>155966219>Movie ends with Matt shapeshifting into both himself and Caitlin and pretending to have a conversation in which Caitlin declares her love for him.>ending is a copy of the One Bad Day specialKWAB
>>155966690None.
>>155966219So it's Darkman but DC
>>155966219I'm not exactly sure what made the guys at Warner take a look at the stupid shit Sony is doing with various Spidey-villain movies that are all miserable failures and decide to do some of that too.
>>155966831Mike Flanagan apparently had a great enough script to get it greenlit but they rewrote it so who knows
>>155966831At least DC has objectively better villains. Picking Clayface was fucking stupid when Mr. Freeze is right there.
>>155966291>wants to be a black womanBased
>>155966831It’s not Warners. Gunn and Safran made DC Studios its own separate company so that Warners wouldn’t interfere like they did throughout the DCEU, so all the retarded shit that’s been happening in the last couple of years is on those two guys. >>155966881Gunn rushed Supergirl into production because he thought the script was amazing, and he said The Flash was one of the best movies he’d ever seen. You can’t trust his judgment on anything.
>>155966219This shit has a budget of like $30 million and it’s still gonna be a box office bomb. Dead Company must have their office building located at Retardland with the creative decisions they keep making.
>>155966219Huh. That’s kind of decent. At least they aren’t trying to sanitize Clayface into being an anti-hero like the Sony movies would.
>>155966219jesus christ that plot sounds like it's been in development hell since 1993
>>155966831It's very different because WB is actually allowing Clayface to be a villain instead of trying to sloppily reinvent him as a generic anti-hero. DC already pulled this off with Joker and Penguin, while both Sony and Marvel Studios refuse to make actual villain movies/shows.
>>155969301I like that you’re leaving out how Warners panicked when people perceived the Arthur Fleck Joker to be an anti-hero and that it caused them to make a sequel where they went, “Wait, never mind, he’s not the real Joker, guys.”
>>155969301>It's very different because WB is actually allowing Clayface to be a villain instead of trying to sloppily reinvent him as a generic anti-hero.Are they? What elements of this plot make him appear villainous? Half the plot is the basic skeleton of every 80s action film -he gets fucked over by the mob, ruining his life even though he did nothing wrong, and then seeks lethal revenge all the way up to the mob boss himself. The only outlier situation is that apparently he spends his free time pretending to be the doctor girl and then killing people who discover that he is actually a transvestite.
>>155966219Nothing gives girl the ick more than taking them to a James Gunn flick. Save your money.
>>155966219>the black chick OC lives to the end of the movie, heroicly defeats Clayface, and is now a permanent part of his backstory who he will always be obssesed with>every Clayface appearance in the James Gunn universe will be him simping for a black chickIt's a wash, it's over. We're done.
>>155969491>Nothing gives girl the ick more than taking them to a James Gunn flick.i like that. i hope it catches on.
>>155969606There was some Twitter animd reviewer who lost his girlfriend and got cucked because he took her to Superman Man of Tomorrow, I think his name was Chibireviews, she walked out at some point during the movie then never came back. She had gone to some other guys house and fucked him instead of watching the movie.I can't even imagine how many relationships were destroyed by watching Lanterns.
>>155969370Arthur Fleck was never going to be the classic Joker, it just doesn't fit his character. People just assumed he would be because they only cared about Joker the pop culture icon and not the character who was actually the protagonist of the film, which is what Todd Philips was trying to make them understand with the sequel.>>155969465From OPs description it sounds like a similar setup to the Joker film, where he takes violent revenge against people who wronged him until he has no scruples about killing anyone in his way. No mention was made of the police detective doing anything wrong, he was just trying to solve some murders. His friend is described as having been coerced into helping the mobsters, which makes me think that his death might be portrayed as Matt letting go of mercy as he refuses to forgive a friend who betrayed him under duress.
>>155966219This doesn't sound woke enough to be a Gunnverse project.
>>155969775>black woman defeats the toxic White male chud and sends him to the sewers>not wokeAre you retarded?
>>155969813So far there's no evidence of actual political messaging in the film in the vein of Lanterns and MoT.
>>155969858>so farThe definition of insanity is watching the same woke slop from the same anti-White producers over and over again expecting to see something different.
>>155969858*meant Superman not MoT>>155969879So you can't prove that it's "woke" in the same way as Lanterns, Superman, Peacemaker, or Creature Commandos, got it.
>>155969929No, I can't prove it because it isn't out yet. I'm sure it will be though when everything else, including the Batman with Catwoman's "rich White males" line has been. I hope you're actually a shill because if not I just feel bad for you.
I thought they were going to make a The Substance ripoff with themes about muh metrosexuality and muh looksmaxxing but thankfully the screenwriters werent as obnoxious as I thought and just plotnabbed a couple more recognisable Clayface stories and stitched them together
>>155970149>I thought they were going to make a The Substance ripoff with themes about muh metrosexuality and muh looksmaxxingHow could you ever expect that from a franchise as shallow and derivative as the DCU?
>>155970149That would have actually been interesting and relevant.
>>155970315No it wouldnt and it would be another jab from the left at man for the sheer evil and unspeakable crime of... wanting to look better and pick up chicks, which is somehow evil and demented and ruining young boys according to the media
>>155967567Clayface as a film goes all the way back to when Joker was pitched.
I just want decent shapeshifting and a good look at his true form
>>155969533Matt Hagen isn't Basil Karlo, you casual ass culture warrior.
>>155969370That was Todd Phillip's decision, not Warners.
>shills last week said it was amazing>regular normie critics say the lead is good but the movie sucksHmm
OK, so Gunn is fucking done, right? Snyder was sacked for less.
>>155972848No, because Gunn is literally a pedophile so he is part of the inner circle of trusted pedophiles. They will never fire him.
>>155972848Let's see where the gross ends up, at 30mil~ it only needs 75mil WW to make a profit
>>155966219overly-convenient plot
>>155966817Also is hagen because normalfags doesnt know basil.DC could had fixed this, but they didnt.
>>155969301Penguin was nothing more than a crime drama with above average acting.
>>155966278just Gunnfluencers, they already pretending that movie now costs 30 million because it's flopping!
>>155966230kek got em
>>155968470They sanitized him by removing the drug addict allegory the TAS version had, which the director was allegedly inspired by, and don't have him freak out until his life is already thoroughly ruined.
>>155974291It's still lightyears ahead of Morbius and Kraven.
>>155972161What the fuck is “Sony level dialogue” supposed to mean?
>>155966219>hooks up with girlfriend of>Caitlin already being involved withNah, the story can't be predicated on two women cheating on their boyfriends. People might start to think they're at fault and sluts.
>>155974787Cowards should've made it a Motorcycle accident. Rake Hollywood over the fucking coals.
>>155966817I liked Taxi Driver but DC, so this could be good only to be ruined in a musical sequel
>>155973274That Nathan Fielder/Elizabeth Holmes doc that's selling out everywhere might outgross this lmao
>>155966817Just after True Crime but DC
>>155973931Because this movie exists entirely because of the BTAS origin episodes.DC writers don't even know the difference, Basil has been written like BTAS Matt since the 90's.
>>155974676the new buzzword to replace whedonism
>>155975654>>155975566>>155974676Critics are retards and forgot, "It's Morbin time!" Was a meme and not real dialogue.
Im going to be fucking pissed if DC shelves Clayface for a while in comics
>>155974676I'm guessing it's a bit heavy on exposition like the line in Madam Web where she talks about her mom in the amazon.
>>155970525But looks maxing IS ruining boysNothing wrong with improving looks, but yiu have dorks ruining themselves just to hear approval from Andrew Tate types, its gayYou even have people willing to break their legs and be disabled for abyear for limb lengthening Looks maxing beyond basic exercise and hair care is gay and stupid, tehres a reason Patrick Bateman monologuing about his routine in American psycho was a joke
This looks so bad.
>>155976167Does it? I need a better look to see if the eyes are sunken in, and see it in motion
>>155966219>They didn't make him gayKind of surprised actually.>They made him a crazy stalkerAhh, that explains it.
Would like to hear Flanagan's thoughts on this movie since he already distanced himself from this before it even came out >>155975670Madame Web has worse dialogue than that
>>155976267If he is smart, he'll wait to see where the reaction will land, and just keep his distance.
>>155976267>>155976277I think he put a heart emote over some positive review or something
>>155976167There's a post floating around saying that this is MID transformation, so bare in mind this might not be the final look
>>155966230My sides.
>>155966690>>155966810Based.
>>155975670>Was a meme and not real dialogue.Hold on, it was not real dialogue??
>>155976368No it was meme based around no one seeing the movie so some guy made up a catchphrase
>>155976167That's just a blurry picture of Dwayne Johnson
>>155976033I doubt it, he's been in Creature Commandos, this movie, Caped Crusader, and Harley Quinn within the last 5 years. He's even referenced in The Penguin. If DC was smart they'd push him in the comics
>>155976394He's currently got a book, Celebrity Dirt
>>155976385I could have sworn it was real dialogue from the movie.
>>155977005There's edited clips of Jared Leto saying it but it's not in the real movie
>>155977005That Yugioh guy Rata made it up as a joke.
>>155966230>Caitlin catches Matt and uses her tablet to disable Matt’s cells, seemingly killing him.>"I can disable your cells with my iPad"Don't give glowies more ideas, or maybe the covid jab already does that, either way fucking stupid.>Movie ends with Matt shapeshifting into both himself and Caitlin and pretending to have a conversation in which Caitlin declares her love for him.Clayface able to become multiple people is fucking stupid, I know it happened before and in both TAS and Arkham Games but that does it make it good.Those two elements aside, it reads like a filler comic that became a movie, or a script someone had for a C-Movie that was roped into whatever the fuck WB thinks they are doing.
>>155969191>jesus christ that plot sounds like it's been in development hell since 1993So I am not that immediately thought of the 90s Invisible Man movie.Remember that scene where he groped the naked chick?
>>155969651>ChibireviewsI thought they were the same guy but chibi reviews is a different train wreck, I was wondering how can someone endure so much humiliation.That aside, nobody actually watched lanterns with any genuine interest, it was a dozen guys hate watching
>>155966219Look, I’m fine with villains being utter scum, but Gunn depicting Clayface as a raging murderous rapist in Creature Commandos and then deciding to greenlight a semi-serious character study horror movie about him was a weird choice.
>>155977565>Clayface able to become multiple people is fucking stupidWhat's wrong with this?
>>155966219That doesn't sound like a horror movie. I thought this was supposed to be a horror movie.
>>155966219>Caitlin catches Matt and uses her tablet to disable Matt’s cells, seemingly killing him.What The stem cells have WiFi connection?
>>155973274Actually anon it would depend on the marketing. Do keep in mind that theaters keep 50% of the ticket sales which is why you need to make twice the budget to profit budget wise. But we don't know the marketing costs. I'd say the safe number is 120M, assuming it was a other 30M in marketing for a total of 60M in production costs.
>>155974421They did not? In the leak it literally says that he took a small dosage, it wore off, then immediately went to overdose despite the literal creator's advice.
so another flop incoming?
>>155975482DC should had merged Basil with Hagen and say that Basil was his artistic name or such.
>>155969775>lady mad scientist>cucks her cop boyfriend>defeats bad guy (hero)Okay dude.
Honestly, what is wrong with DC? Why can’t they seem to get anything right, whether in movies or games, unless it involves Batman?
>>155969191Honestly they should've made it a bottle movie set in Arkham where a bunch of guards need to figure out who Clayface has disguised himself as. So... basically the Thing with a DC comic book skin
>>155978236You say that but besides The Penguin all Batman related media have fucking sucked. I won't even go down the list but Penguin is an outliar in terms of quality.
>The serum begins to wear out, so Matt takes another higher dose against Caitlin’s warnings and gains shapeshifting powers.Amatuer writing. What? Am I supposed to assume that the reason he starts killing people is because >le funky formulertook over his mind? Come on. This is "somehow palpatine has returned" levels of lame.
>>155978236Some might say that DC characters are not relatable or something along those lines. But Hal for example became the only truly beloved element of his show. So the normies can find DC characters relatable provided they are well-written. The problem isn't the characters; it's the writers.
>>155978260Wasn't the original Clayface just a hitman who could change his face? He was already evil. >>155978222This guy has it right. Combine the normal face swapping guy, have him get injured, let him take the experimental serum and overdo it because of the power it gives him, and then have him hulk out like Basil. Fucking make him evil if you want to make a villain movie.
>>155977884Dude... The People vs Gorrilla Grodd is going to save the DC Cinematic Universe. Trust
>>155978285the original clayface was gay
>>155966219>Matt's death deemed a suicideWhy? He's a villain. I assume by Rising Star that means he was as famous as... say the actress from Obssession. So if he's going around with a fucked up face and comes out with a better face won't people notice? Why doesn't he go on a rampage as Clayface?
>>155978302I already said he was evil
>>155978285The original Clayface was a Hollywood actor past his prime who got angry at the industry for remaking his big movie without him so he started killing the people on set. He became the monster after taking a serum made of the other Clayfaces
>>155978322t. cucked simp betamaleenjoy your nasty roast beef
>>155978309Because of the stellar good batman episode
>>155976063The best part about that line is that is was only in the trailer
>>155978222Nvm what i said, DC really merged Basil and Hagen in n52 and it has been that since.>Birth Name: Matthew Hagen, son of Vincent Karlo.>Artistic Name: Basil Karlo
>>155978322gay rights are human rights
>>155978473Buttfucking homos who turns little boys into homos arent human rights ye failled attempt at trolling.
>>155966219>uses her tablet to disable Matt’s cellWhat
>>155978322kekWhy is /co/ gay?
>>155979547pussy is fucking disgusting
>>155966219>Caitlin catches Matt and uses her tablet to disable Matt’s cellsThat sounds retarded
>>155966817That's been very obvious from the set leaks.
>>155978473Not in the constitution. Nor in the bible.
>>155978236Hal 'Generational Suicide' Jordan.Christ.
>>155981188What's your opinion on cocks?
>>155978356Literally the only reason. One of the best standalone stories and animated by guys who worked on Akira.
>>155966219>revenge is always evil>black woman represents love and lifeKnew it.
>>155974421They should have used the story from BTAS.
>>155966831>>155969301Honestly it's not a bad concept. It's better than subpar cape plots. take the basic elements of a character and put them in unique settings, like detective stories, horror, and thrillers, rather than a generic superhero story. Like another anon said., Sony's problem was that it turned its villains into contrived antiheroes in big-budget films that carried huge risks. The concept works better on a low budget.
>>155976167Not bad. Idk what you niggas expected a live action Clayface to look
>>155974291Why would it be anything else? I hate you retards that think there’s any such thing as a “superhero genre”. That’s how you get slop
