batcave bros...
>>155984403Viz killed them too?
How come manga gets all the alternative sites while western comics are fucked?
its joeover
It still works if you have an issue open, but you can’t get new series unless you fuck with the series number in the url>>155984868Nobody cares about comics anymore and everyone who still likes them buys physical collections
>>155984868Global popularity and accessibility Americans got manga LATE compared to other countries
What sites would you recommend as an alternative? I have a friend just getting into comics but he exclusivly uses batcave
>>155984956There aren’t any leftIt’s torrents or bust
>>155984868Japan understands that fan works are free advertising for their products, while Disney and Skydance think that they should get paid if people even *say* the name of their characters.
>>155984998Japan fucking HATES piracy you idiot https://youtu.be/AbfWqCmibIc
>>155984403Damn. I was about to make a thread asking about where to read comics and which Green Lantern to start with.
Batcave shills, r u o k?I remember you were laughing when RCO died.
>>155984403I'm calling this now. This will affect modern comic sales because nobody on Xitter will know where to get the latest scans.
>>155985033>Batcave shills, r u o k?>I remember you were laughing when RCO died.>He thinks we used BatcavelolFuck you Pedro
>>155985046You stupid fucking idiotOnline popularity doesn't translate to salesA large amount of the people who pirate aren't even Americans
>>155984403AAAAAAHHHHH I was literally gonna goon today to some lady death comics on lsd later, fuck, evening derailed
>>155984998Japs hate piracy though, it's just that unlike the gooks they just don't care much for foreign market piracy enough to systematically clamp down on itIf there's any tacit endorsement of piracy in that field, then you will find it among western publishers who know what to officially translate instead of wasting time and money on utterly forgettable dogshit people don't bother reading even for free.
>>155984403Damn i was using this to read Absolute Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman because i dont want to pay for leftist propaganda. Otherwise wouldnt have a problem buying the TPBs.
>>155984868Dude, manga sites have been getting taken down time and time again for decades. The only difference is that manga is more popular, so there are more people willing to save those sites.
>>155984403>using piracy sites to get direct scans of issues for storytimes because multiple series are digital-only>Defenders 1972 is exclusively digital on getcomics, libgen, multiple torrents>didn't have time to download all of World Gone Sane in advance due to work>saw >>155984891 as it was posted>only managed to grab issues #31-34 in time>now the readers are also giving a MySQL Error and won't respondBy God, if I have to use the Digital editions to storytime tomorrow I will be upset.
>>155984403YUM YUM YUMhttps://x.com/TheWinsomeAsh/status/2112657720126124196/quotes
>>155984403Fucking Invincible fans can't keep their mouths shut
>>155984868More sites hosted in more countries so it's constant whack-a-mole and harder for corpos to hit them all.Comics are mostly just popular with westerners, where the penalty for hosting a pirated site is having your dick exploded.
>>155985344I don't have Twitter so what does it say
Just checked RedditHave seen some posts about it being a cloudflare issue but idk
>>155985894It says>Hmm...this page doesn’t exist. Try searching for something else.
>>155984868Good thing I have this.
>>155984998>Japan understands that fan works are free advertising for their productsthis is a joke right nips go insane for piracy and claim its stolen sales. even tho when they sell rights to westerns managka make nothing from western sales they get a tiny amount from the rights sold. when western companies charge 5x the cost of what it is in Japan for awful translations.they dont sue or DMCA because its international. Normally places tell them to get fucked. Unless they blow millions in court.
>>155985344>Look at the comments under the xeet>Almost every single bio has pronouns or sub-20 age and most of them are non-USAnd they say young people don't read comics.They make 'em faggy because the main people reading them are indeed faggy foreign zoomers.
>RCO dies earlier this year>WCO is getting shitty again>Now Batcave is also fuckedThe hell is going on?
>>155985447Is it really their fault?
I really should've finished Tim Drake when I had the chance
>>155986177just a uneducated hunch but im gonna say starving AI of training data may be a motivation, the idea seems late though.
>>155986177The fact that RCO is just straight up dead is the scariest part to me. That site was left unmolested for years outside of the Disqus fiasco then one day, it's just gone forever.
>>155986192Who the fuck else is reading comics, in this day and age, but stupid enough to spread direct links to piracy sites on major social media platforms?
>>155985447Yeah, it's gotta be someone
>>155986284Dude....EVERYONE does that Marvel fansDC fansLicensed comics fans
if it was hosted in russia one of their largest server networks was hit and is down. 90% of russian bots online were dead for a few days most are still dead lmao.
>>155986261RCO died because Amazon actually enforces copyright unlike Marvel and DC.
>>155984868Manga sites get hit with this shit too, Ben. >>155984980So. It has come to this.
>>155985987None of you Googled what that mySQL error is did you? The server they host their SQL DB on is out of space. They just need more storage.
>>155986431>AmazonStop parroting this retarded claimThey don't own Invincible and even if they did they've left the Internet Archive page with every volume alone
>>155984403DANG IT. Just when I discovered it.
>>155984868because comics deserve to fail for only promoting cape slop
>last online issue I ever get to read online is a random Jonah hex issuefuck
Can /co/ codemonkeys just make nyaa but for comics. dc++ fucking blows
>>155986662do it yourself with AI
>>155986678The FBI would execute me for hosting it's gotta be a russian or vietnamese living deep in the jungle
>>155984403So... shit, what do we do now outside of Mega files? I used to download, but it's a lot more convenient to have a site. And yes, I do buy physical too, but it's impossible to pick up every piece of shit out there just hoping it's kinda good.
>>155986485Is this true?
>>155986806Wait for them to free up the storage space on the server the SQL db is hosted on. The errors the site has been spitting back all have to do with a server running out of space. Most likely caused by some rampant temp file that needs to be deleted. The webhost is still up but you just can't access anything since the drive the DB is hosted on is full. Literally two seconds in Google. It's even spitting back Error 1 now, which is consistent with a full drive or issues with write permissions. Calm the fuck down.
>>155986899Fucking Google mySQL Error Message 1021 and see for yourself. I won't lie, I'm getting real tired of sharing the internet with such retards. Literal illiterate retards that can't even so much as Google something. Seriously, what's actually wrong with you faggots?
>>155984403They do realize that because of llms and lack of interest from the audience...their attempts at bringing down piracy sites makes their valuable property worse then worthless? Why would anyone read old comics when they can read something else with a beginning ending and their sensibilities in mind and isn't outwardly antagonistic and filled with hate and bile towards them?They make their ip something to avoid rather then seek out or casually enjoy. This will destroy their merch sales as well. I see gen alpha being the last gen to make their property even slightly valuable. Espescially with the current crop of comic creators and major corps ran by sociopathic monsters controlling them. >>155985099Piracy keeps IP warm and can be used as a form of advertisement. Have any idea of how many creators and producers WANT people to pirate their stuff to create media based on their stuff? Why? The real deal that would languish and die in obscurity will gain positive attention and a base of fans/customers can grow from that.LOLMinecraft started as a free/pirate game. >>155985007Jap companies hate it. The average creator knows that piracy and free content is the first step for a small creator
>>155984868Many more people care about manga than comics. They're always making new manga sites. Even if it has become fucking brutal out there and most of them are dead or die off fast. They're still making more even if they only last a short while. Another thing that baffles me is how strong the translation scene is for manga. The shittiest mediocre manga will get translated almost same day while European comics in French or German or whatever will just never get translated or put online.
>>155986261>Disqus fiasco???
>>155987250>Piracy keeps IP warm and can be used as a form of advertisement. Have any idea of how many creators and producers WANT people to pirate their stuff to create media based on their stuff?How many comics can you honestly say benefitted substantially from piracy?If you use Absolute Batman you're an idiot
>>155987250>The average creator knows that piracy and free content is the first step for a small creatorThere have been mangaka and game devs who lash out at people pirating their stuffPeople who are understanding like Itoi (who isn't even a dev professionally) are the minority
>>155986662>>155986678Coding is the piss easy part and AI can vibeshit you a simple site in minutes anyway.Costs of handling storage + traffic and the open question of how to deal with copyright glowies is why it isn't done.Pray some Russian autists take interest in western comics + they don't get drafted + Ukraine doesn't blow up their data centersThis is the only long shot hope we have at this point.
>>155986960I don't blame you. The insane thing is that you see people keep repeating the lie over and over again even after being corrected because the majority don't actually care about the truth.>>155987250>Jap companies hate it.>The average creator knows that piracy and free content is the first step for a small creatorThat such an ironic thing to say because I just saw a random nip complaining that they should stop porting their products overseas because of piracy.
>>155984868There have been several that were taken down in the past few years. Bato wasn't that long ago. Soon all that will be left will be the shitty AI translated sites that you have to pay money to read.
>>155984403Meh another one will pop up, I got enough physical books to not care anyway plus CBRs exist but damn when I was growing up we kept our mouths shut about sites like this unless it a was a close friend.
>>155984403Buying used comics is easier than prating them these days, used manga on the other hand that shit so fucking pricey, it's other way around and cheaper to buy new but you can't buy like dollar books like used comics.
>>155985253>i dont want to pay for leftist propagandayou likely already own some.
>>155987445Who told Bane about the batcave? Was it you Tim? Alfred? Jim? Barbara? Goddamn it. Or was it Jim Joygasm Carrey Riddler the Diddler and the sanctioner of buffoonery?
I like how comics are niche and when these sites are gone it filters out the retards more, only see like legit fans talking comics when stuff like this happens.
>>155987506>Buying used comics is easier than prating them these daysThat's not even close to true. It never has been. Especially if you're trying to read old stuff.
>>155987605I mean it's easier to buy a bunch of cheap books I didn't say it was easier to find specific series, though I do love blind buying cheap comics.
Kek.
>>155987647>Kek.
>>155987647Times like this is where you pray for your favorite pirate website to remain not popular or else dipshits will get attention for it to be taken down
>idiots are still sperging out thinking the site got taken downYou retards are too stupid for this world. The web address literally sends a response when you ping it. The site is still up just having technical issues. The SQL DB can't write to the drive it lives on because the drive is full. You retards seriously need to not panic and just Google shit. It's not hard.
>>155987307Anon, do you actually think that comics are the reason those IPs or even the comics themselves are bought? NoWithout piracy and the IP being in the public conscious no one outside of the small vanishing comic buying minority would care. Think spiderman and batman are massive properties because people buy comics or watch the movies legally? LOLYou're out of your fucking mind. The moment that small cabal of dubbers and streamers ruined the organic and massive subbing scene anime and manga saw a drop in sales and most important of all attention. Anon, you don't actually think the music producers were scared of napster because they were losing money on sales do you? No, they were scared of losing control over being able to tell people what and who to like to control the market. >>155987330Because they depend on a stable honest market where their content is an only choice. The problem is that they believe that they are in a stable honest market and don't understand that piracy is not only some of the best marketing there is but the people who pirate their works wouldn't have bought them in the first place. They simply lack the ability to capitalize on it and shine. T
>>155987822No you dumb fuck, we're talking about comicsAn industry where 20k is considered above cancelation line a for Marvel/DC titleThe vast majority of people "into" these characters have never read a comic in their life let alone know what an LCS isAs for Japan, we don't matterPiracy doesn't matter to the longevity of manga because manga's longevity is determined strictly by a domestic audienceThere is manga obscure in the West that have lasted literal decades in JapanPiracy does not play a role in that success
Batcave was taken down because of the php fuckery, it is back.Also you fags better crank the storytime threads because things happened today.
>batcave gets back and 4chan goes down at the same timeJustice.
>>155984868Manga is simply better than capeshit, that's why.
