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why does genie say there are 3 rules when there are clearly 4?
>no wishing for someone to love you
>no wishing to kill someone
>no wishing to bring someone back from the dead
>no wishing for more wishes
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>>155986060
Because the fourth is not an enforced rule. Aladdin literally tricks Genie to get him out of the cave for free, after all.
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>>155986060
You only get 3 wishes, so wishing for more is a given and not really a rule
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>>155986187
He then proceeded to say "no more freeboes" and couldn't rescue Al without using a Wish. Basically, he can add rules at will, but has to keep to them once they're locked in.
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>>155986060
The no extra wishes one is one that Al figured out a loophole for. The bringing people back from the dead one sorta sounded like a personal preference, almost like he got to pick one thing to preemptively refuse to do and that was the one. The other two he says he cannot do, and this is demonstrated when Jafar clearly wishes for Jasmine to fall in love with him and then nothing happens, while every other of Jafar’s wishes genie is forced to grant reluctantly.
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>>155986060
Cant I indirectly ask for more wishes like asking for a second genie? Or asking for mind control powers and having the second person ask for my wishes as I control them
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>>155986437
>he can add rules at will
so did he add "no wishing to be a genie" to the rules
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>>155986507
Well he got freed before he could get a new master after that, so he didnt need to.
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>>155986476
We don't know. Maybe wishing to become a genie doesn't count, since you (maybe) can't benefit from more wishes once you are one. Mind control might not work, since it's really you making the wish. Depends on how the magic works.
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>>155986060
>>155986187
>>155986437
I mean, he's basically saying "I PERSONALLY forbid you from wishing for more wishes. don't even think about it, I'm too smart for that"
then, after being proven not too smart for that, the next time, he behaves as if he actually is forbidden to use his powers for any personal benefit, so now that he KNOWS, consciously, that he'd be doing it to save his buddy, it's a no-no from Allah. So he has to HIMSELF cheat, to get Al to safety, by deliberately pretending to interpret a wish. Something Al understood, and now they were even steven. And obviously something Allah would approve of, since it preserves life. And that guy has a real bug up his butt about djinni putting humans first.
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>>155986060
the games Jinn play with mortals are tests.
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>>155986060
Robin Williams is a coward for going out the way he did.
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>>155988856
he was killed because he knew too much
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>>155986437
before getting out of the cave, he says "You're getting your wishes buddy, so SIDDOWN".
I think it implies he can act if he believes he's granting a wish. That's why Aladdin's potentially involuntary head-bob underwater is enough
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>>155986060
I actually think most of the rules are just personal preference of the Genie and not actual things he is forced to uphold. Going down the list:

>no wishing for someone to love you
He hesitates and attempts to explain the rules when Jaffar wishes for this but is shut down and can be seen wincing and pointing in Jasmine's direction after being given the order and being visibly confused after she starts seducing Jaffar. The fact he was still obligated to start to grant the wish implies it is not a hard rule but either an ethical boundary of the Genie or that he avoids it because it causes an Obsession type situation.
>no wishing to kill someone
Only one we have direct confirmation on. In the Return of Jaffar he notes Jaffar cannot kill him because he is now a genie but that he can torture him as "it is surprising what you can live through".
>no wishing to bring someone back from the dead
He directly states when establishing the rule "it's not a pretty picture, I DON'T LIKE DOING IT" while miming turning into a zombie. The phrasing makes clear he can and has done it in the past. But that it causes a Monkey's Paw scenario of the person being brought back in their current state. And thus he advises against doing it.
>no wishing for more wishes
Seems to be a rule but there are ways around it as other anons have pointed out, yet both Genie and Jaffar and third parties state it is the rules.

Should be noted as well RoJ has Jaffar tell the guy who found him he needs to earn the last wish, showing that genies can make up and lie about their rules and limits. As well as are not obligated to follow the spirit of the wish in how he chooses to grant said guys wishes.
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ARABIAN NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHTS
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>>155988856
weakest bait.
everybody knows suicide is okay when you're in constant chronic pain for over 48 hours, and he was in it for weeks. he was screaming for days straight, and the coroner looking at his brain could not believe this man had just recently been alive, the lewy-body levels should have killed him ages ago.
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>>155986060
Actually, there are 47 rules.
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>>155989186
>First one
suggests he isn't consciously aware of when he has used his magic. No, I think the confusion is because he HADN'T used it. For one thing, that doesn't count against Jafar's three, now does it
>third one
good point, but I think that's why it was forbidden. it probably used to be allowed.
>fourth one
I think it's safe to say, if the genie himself isn't aware he's done so, then he's off the hook for the accidental extra wish.
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>>155988856
He got word of the Aladdin live-action/CG remake and couldn't bear to witness his most prized role defiled like that
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>>155988856
I disagree. Rapid dementia sounds like it would be absolute torture. He was practically dead already, but with fleeting moments of lucidity that became less and less frequent
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>Aladdin is smart enough to think his way out of this
>Not smart enough to get a job
???
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>>155988856
I would too if I had 3 more alimonies to deal with..
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>>155988936
Only because he insisted on sticking to his guns about the no free wishes addendum. If it wasn't possible for him to use his powers in service of his master outside of a wish, then the escape the cave part wouldn't have happened without expending a wish. The fact that it did means that Genie is the ultimate authority on what's allowed, at least beyond the 3 hard rules, otherwise Jafar would've been able to kill Iago in the sequel, which he couldn't.
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>>155991814
Is there footage/direct accounts from his last few years alive?
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Princess Jasmine is very attractive. Anyone else agree?
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>>155993543
she a'ight
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>>155994308
Why are you gay
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>>155986060
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pco91kroVgQ
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>>155996343
I love Lady Gaga!
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>>155997138
Jafar would too if he were still alive
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>>155986060
you still can wish for the 3 rules (maybe not the "wish to kill" as we dont know what trap/slave the Genies.

He cant make someone love you (look Obsetion)

And he cleary say that "it's not a pretty picture, dont ask!" (as in Monkey paw)

you can wish for love and raise the dead, it's just not what you will really get.
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>>155997981
>Obsetion
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>>155990136
banger https://youtu.be/R8JhHDiq21M
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>>155986060
>no wishing for more wishes
That wasn't really a rule.
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>>155986437
I was under the impression that was less of a hard rule, and more just his cheeky way of saying "you're not tricking me again."
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>Encounter a omniscient physical God-like being offering you a boon
>"I know, I'll try to cheat him for more wishes"

Songs will be sung about your sheer idiocy.
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Wishing for more wishes is retarded since just having a wish doesn't mean a djinn will grant them.
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>>155992389
>at least beyond the 3 hard rules
This. It's even in his language. He specifcally says he "can't" do those three things, but doesn't say the same about the wish count. He just makes it clear that a wish for more wishes will not be honored. But that also doesn't mean he's incapable of bestowing more wishes himself.

Although the way he talks about bringing people back from the dead makes it seem like he does indeed have the power to do so and has done it in the past. But Genie is obviously just unreliable and says random shit to suit the moment. Did any of the sequels or the series ever go over who the hell is in charge of these rules? Is there like a Grand Genie who supervises and sets limitations? What is their magic source, since it can clearly be gifted to other people (Jafar).
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>>156000408
it wasn't?



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