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With Halloween coming up soon, how do you think the Loud family will celebrate it this year?
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>>156072175
Probably by all going as barefoot character girls that I can cum on and jizz to and feel a lot of good boner, and then they all give me footjobs.
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>>156072175
Orgy
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>>156072175
She's behind you.
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>>156072175
Nickelodeon fired creator Chris Savino before Halloween Day nine years ago.
That is pathetic.
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>>156072193
The latest episodes introduced a Dexter expy, and apparently he and Lisa are frenemies.
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>>156072750
Lana and Lola should wear matching outfits more often. They can really pull it off.
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>>156074250
Lola looks more devious here than usual. Definitely giving off a Dennis the Menace vibe. Very cute.
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>>156074171
They technically didn't. He quit. Apparently nick investigated him and didn't find any reason to fire him, most of the things he was accused of happened while he working at CN and even then the worst he was accused of was having consensual affairs with interns. Kind of creepy but technically not illegal. Anyway the women who accused him, they were all in a facebook group, caught wind that nick wasn't going to fire him and leaked the story to cartoon brew to force nick to address the issue.
Then Savino went ahead and quit to save his marriage, didn't work, and to not further tarnish the shows reputation. Nick probably appreciated not having to publicly acknowledge the situation any further.
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>>156072175
Satanic Orgy.
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Halloween is coming soon, I've wasted the whole month.
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>>156076026
She looks like she does porn
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>>156076127
She looks like she does little boys
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>>156076026
Luna had so many great outfits in the live action show.
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Another win on JCMs wheel for me. Now I have to think of a new request for tuesdays.
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>>156076627
Awesome. Always great when Jcm2 does Loud House stuff.
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>>156076627
I like the seal guy who keeps requesting Lincoln and Rita in lingerie or Lincoln getting pegged by Rita. He's gotten a few wins in.
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>>156076419
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>>156076764
Seal's an uglygay dweeb but it is funny when he wins. I didn't like when he was requesting shit with the MAP flag colors but he stopped that long before the discord got shutdown.
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>>156076839
Why did the discord shut down? Also i thought the seal was jcm-2's alter ego
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>>156076871
Some fag got really uppity his request wasn't picked out of the request wheel and started mass reporting.
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>>156076920
What a nigger holy shit
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>>156074250
>"Well, since I can't get you into a dress, this will have to do."
>"You do know that pink won't stay clean five seconds outdoors, right?"
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Why was the last thread nuked wtf
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>>156077437
Happens every now and then. It's gay as fuck but there's nothing much we can do but bake again and keep going. Especially weird when that one was already pretty well on its way out anyway.
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>>156078391
meh
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>>156072175
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any drawing requests? (I dont draw gooner art)
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>>156080532
Oh hey, I didn't know you did the background and side characters from this show too. Awesome work. She came out really cute here.
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>>156080641
Can you do Lucy loud pressing the femur breaker button and a desperate Haiku strapped to the contraction?
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>>156076627
When will this be drawn so I can watch
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>>156080532
Nice
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>>156080734
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>>156081079
Thanks lmao
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>>156081234
np
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>>156080768
No idea. It was second to win so I assume after he's done with the Mavis Dracula pic. He's been going for 6 hours on that though.
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>>156080641
Luna and Lucy eating cake together.
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>>156080641
Draw Lana with a BIG sword.
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>>156080641
Heh. How about Lisa with a jet pack?
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>>156081481
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>>156080641
Lucy thinking that Edwin is cheating on her with Haiku.
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>>156081720
thanks
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>>156081482
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>>156081911
Lori No!
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>>156081911
Now wait a minute, everybody knows Lana wouldn't hurt a fly. She might eat one, but that's different.
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>>156073420
>Gro
Is an eerie growl
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>>156081996
shes not trying to hurt the fly
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>>156074250
Oh shit, is that a shiny Lana?
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>>156074826
>quit
You know what blackballing is?
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>>156080532
Oh shit, never expected Swain to draw Haiku
Nicely done
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>>156073420
god i hope so!
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>>156076627
ew, mmf.
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>>156080641
context for this?
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>>156081654
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>>156082106
I didn't specify it to be mmf. I expect it to b MfM. But I'd be fine either way.
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>>156080768
Its starting now.
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>>156081766
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>>156082303
lel
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>>156082132
Pretty good.
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>>156082132
Lisa's insatiable lust for jihad.
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>>156082852
So tell me this, is Ronnie Anne looking at Lincoln or Sid?
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>>156080641
Luna smoking a joint with Lincoln and Sam.
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>>156082910
>>156082910
Lincoln has 4 eyebrows. Sloptards think this is acceptable quality.
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>>156082931
You're right. If you want to make slop, at least make it good slop.
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>>156080641
Can you do Lola and Lana fighting over something (your choice)
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>>156080641
An embarrassed Ronnie Anne's brain shutting down after Lincoln compliments her dress that she was forced to wear
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>>156083043
Love the way he draws his girls.
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>>156083849
Yeah when he's not indulging himself it's good.
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>>156082852
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>>156083854
Nah, I'm ok with that. His lines and posing are so pleasant he makes even that work.
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>>156083906
Looks better this one.. the other had some pepe frog eyes
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>>156073420
Is she going to do something to me? Something I wish there was more art of the girls doing to guys?
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>>156073420
Sauce?
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>>156072175
Looks like that goth girl in black lagoon
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>>156084874
I don't think you want the sauce, bro.
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>>156085808
Those skirts are too short, we can everything
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>>156086178
They should fuck
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This pic needs an update
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Lori should've gotten a freshman 15 when she was away at college.
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>>156083833
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>>156080266
You really can't blame Clyde for being into Lori honestly.
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>>156082915
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>>156088086
Great
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>>156084874
No thanks.
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>>156084874

https://saucenao.com/
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>>156086546
You're all talk Sam.
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>>156088086
lol thanks
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>>156088342
>>156088474
>Leni x Lincoln x Lucy
Nice
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>>156088812
Honestly Lucy and Leni are a rare enough duo that elevates this pic a lot.
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>>156088950
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>>156088974
I don't suppose there's a picture of background JokerLuan and MinionMaggie?
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>>156088478
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>>156089029
yeap it is
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>>156089183
wonderful
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>>156089129

No, I'm asking if there's one JUST of those two.
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>>156089290
Separately? Hmm, probably not, but if you want, you can look up the author's name: zukicure5GOGO
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>>156089045
Be glad you haven't seen the Clyde on the couch.
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>>156088540
There's nothing wrong with wanting to see your girlfriend commit a little incest.
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>>156082142
same damn thing.
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>>156090688
No. If it was MMF Lincoln or Bobby would be in the middle.
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>>156088474
hey, someone found the non cropped version!
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>>156090703
Yes, I'm the same anon who posted the cut version. Today I finally managed to find the artist and the full version.
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>>156090930
I had to search on Twitter, but at least it wasn't in vain.
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>>156080641
Can you do Lincoln giving Lucy nose kisses?
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>>156088342
Leni looks cute as the corpse bride.
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>>156091006
very cute maggie! worthy of bearing gloom!
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Some knows if there's still Halloween themed pics requets?

I don’t know about you all, but this, without anything planned, really it's giving a visual story.
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>>156092637
Nah
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>>156093133
Yes.
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>>156093133
She literally recoiled at his touch. Also I thought that was an oc for a sec
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>>156093376
Die
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>>156093391
Live.
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>>156093391
You don't belong here faggot
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>>156093482
Of course, you farmswines who fuck their cousins
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>>156089846
lewdest house did those 3 great.
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>>156093098
is that a lucy in the making?!
nose look a lil weird, cant explain it.
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>>156093475
daw, lacy look so happy! i love this one.
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>>156093829
no its mick swagger
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>>156093098
Lincoln isn't going to get any candy this year because his sisters keep distracting him.
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>>156093810
Really? I tried it for the art but I felt that the relationship between the three wasn't done too great and stopped playing in the middle of the first scene. Might be hearsay but I also heard that RA gets her own harem and Lincoln is just a part of it, and you have to choose between the sisters or RA and her harem at some point in the story. Might be BS but that's the other reason I dropped it, if that's not the case I might try it again though since I've really been wanting more of this kinda stuff recently
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>>156094159
>I tried it for the art
That's the first time I've ever heard anyone say that about Lewdest House. Everyone is there for CS's writing. Also, no, RAS doesn't have her own harem, she simply lezzed with Sid before you and she joins in on your sex with RAS. It's Lincoln that has the potential harem with the Casagrande women. Also, the "choosing" is not real, Lincoln will have both by the end, DMF and CS said so. I don't even know where you got those ideas from.
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>>156083084
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>>156093098
Since Luan is the mad scientist you can draw Lisa as an eldritch horror/cthulhu
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>>156083379
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>>156094159
There are some choices that lock you out of specific scenes, mainly sex scenes with Lori despite her dating Bobby
As for Ronnie Anne's harem?
No, she only has Sid and she really wants to share her with Lincoln. There is a dilemma Lincoln currently has about choosing the Casagrandes over his sisters as he would essentially have 4 females to fuck compared to, for now, the 2 sisters he has fucked, but I really doubt there won't be a path to all of them in Lincoln's harem
Right now the 3 endings I foresee happening are: Casagrandes only, Loud sisters only, and everyone
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>>156095148
Ah shit, so THAT'S what happened to Rusty
>>156095603
Wonderfully done
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>>156094683
im one of the people that enjoy DMF's artstyle.

unfortunately, CS left the project, DMF is going to try writing the rest. (its the latest update.)
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>>156095603
cute!
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>>156093098
It does feel like a great setup of Lincoln's sisters all jumping him all Halloween. Which is fun. Would be cool of each got a shot at him in one night.
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>>156092067
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>>156096062
Based.
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>>156095639
Rusty is the middle-sized one, he never left.
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>>156096128
Woops, confused Rusty with Rocky
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>>156093847
A happy Lacy is a cute Lacy!
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>>156094683
Yeah I thought the art was cute, I had no idea who the writer was but I liked what I read of the game aside from the RA stuff, I think what irked me with that was how she was so into Lincoln, has this big emotional date and going away scene, which to me means they're together, I think they even kissed, but its been a while since I played, then she goes and gets with Sid basically right after, without even asking her boyfriend(?) about it. I think I remember her alluding to it on video calls but still it left a bad taste in my mouth. Been a while since I played it though, so maybe I'm misremembering it all.
>>156095614
I played this game over a year ago and quit in the middle of Lincoln's first scene with RA, at that point it still felt like the beginning of the game and Lincoln had already fucked Lynn Jr and I think Lucy, has no progress at all with the rest of the family been made since then? Guess its in line with the average WEG development timeline but that still feels crazy slow.
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>>156086582
Look at how fucking sexy these girls are, are you fucking kidding me
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>>156096632
The progress with the sisters except for Lori was halted while Lincoln spent time with Ronnie Anne and increased his relationship with Carlota, Maria, and Sid
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>>156097351
total babes
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Who's opening Lincoln's door tonight?
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>>156073352
Adorable puppy Lynn.
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>>156097411
Lori and Leni.
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>>156093098
>>156094121
>>156095970

>The premise could go like this:

>Trick n' treat time already it's come.
> Lincoln plans to get together with his 6 friends and collect a large amount of candy as a group on all Halloween night.
>What the "man of the plan" didn't expect is the intervention of some of his sisters (and possible others) in his itinerary, who have for him other intentions 'of a lot of treats and thrills in their own way' during the night, (starting with Luna in the room at the given minutes after the sunset)...
>Will the white-haired boy be able to reach his goal in time? Will he have what it takes to make front into their thirst, which are not for exaclty sweets and treats? What other kind of 'mis-chievous-adventures' will it bring him in the next hours of this spook night?
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>>156098466
They’ll be asking him about ‘Vampires of Melancholia’.
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>>156097411
Oh that's just the Ghost of Christmas Future visiting him again in August to remind him of the dangers of not molesting any future daughters who ask for it
And then she instructs him as to how these potential future daughters would like to be molested and where
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>>156099150
Wait your turn bitch.
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Well I know why the 2nd image was deleted by why was >>156099150 deleted?
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>>156098807
>decades later
>lincoln is relaxing on the couch
>when lupa jumps onto it and excitedly sits next to her father
>lupa asks if he wants to play some games with her
>before lincoln can finish asking, lupa is already slowly unzipping her hoodie
>lincoln immediately refuses his daughter
>but lupa informs her father that there are dangers to leaving a daughter unloved by hee father
>lincoln opens his mouth but he silently stares into the void as past memories from his brain
>he finally snaps out of it and asks lupa if she stole aunt lisa's time machine to groom him into having carnal relations with her
>"Mmmaaaayybeeee~"
>lupa was grounded for grooming her father
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>>156099195
Lori should let Lincoln stay and watch to learn something.
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>>156099304
Kek
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>>156098807
It's a shame most AU loud don't have the sisters having between 5-12 kids each with Lincoln
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Is dating a genderbent version of yourself based or cringe?
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>>156101020
how/why is she kinda cute
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>>156101126
You have low standards
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>>156101020
Their children will be revolting
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>>156101020
Based honestly, I'd fuck me
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>>156101020
Cringe unless she is younger
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>>156101330
Hot
Would give Luan to father in the loudcest bowl
Also bobby needs to die before he takes Lori virginity
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>>156101483

He took Lori's virginity years ago, Anon.
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>>156101492
Not in my head cannon, bobby got run over by a truck and Ronnie got a baseball shoved into her throat
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>>156101570

*shrug* In my headcanon, Ronnie Ann has heard Lori screaming "OH BOO-BOO BEAR, FILL ME WITH YOUR SEED" so often it doesn't even register anymore.
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>>156101610
Ronnie Anne should barge in and join them.
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>>156101683
Eww, brown incest
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>>156101610
T>>156101570
>>156101492
>>156101483
We all know the real answer to this
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>>156101932
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>>156101683
Nice, brown incest
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>>156095603
Her abuela heard she was going on a date and forced her to wear a dress.
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>>156096141
Rusty and Rocky's parents got divorced and the mom took Rocky. That's why Lucy never saw him again.
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>>156095603
>>156102307
Cute
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>>156102012
There's not enough Bobby Ronnie Anne stuff out there.
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>>156101020
It's the purest form of inbreeding one can participate in, so by loudfag standards absolutely based. The girl one is cute but Rusty should probably be castrated for the good of the human race.
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>>156099304
kek! good one.
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>>156099979
truedat. need a whole clan loud.
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>>156101787
plot twiiiiist XD
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>>156104393
tiny bat lucy! gosh, so adorable!
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>>156101932
Sauce/artist and is there moar?
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>>156093829
That Lucy is complete and it's awesome, those are just crops; you should check out the full picture, it's definitely a cool one. I gushed about that pic in the last thread that got deleted. IconicPants made all of those by the way. Maybe the full pic is on the /co/llection.
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>>156088950
Sweet pic and not only that, it's a Sidonniecoln so the artist is a big time knower. I'd never seen this guy's stuff either, he's good.
>>156090930
Thanks a lot man. I'd only seen the cropped version too so thanks for sharing the full one after you found it.
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>>156105175
You think Lincoln ever pulled the same prank on her?
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>>156106027
i checked, not on the collection.
damn, does iconic have other places he post his art?
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>>156106569
He's given her a taste too.
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>>156090930
big thanks for the effort!
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>>156093098
>>156098491

It looks excellent, although I wouldn't like to 'abuse' the good disposition that iconicp gives us in requests either, specially when the big night is almost in the corner.

I would also like to see more art, but we will have to wait.
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I wanna hear the most degenerate thing you want any loud house character to do to you personally. Where are the freaks at?
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>>156104393
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>>156109697
I want Lori to eat my ass while I fuck her brother.
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>>156101020
It's not actual incest so you can already guess how most people here feel about that.
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>>156109697
Lola and Lana talk me into chaperoning them to an R-rated movie. Things quickly get weird from there.
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>>156109697
I want Leni to hold me and tell me everything is going to be ok
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This show would be better if the girls weren't so good at what they do.
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>>156111543
OMGosh, that is so degenerate
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Yo IconicPants, if you're here and still taking Halloween requests I've got one for ya: Nikki as Carrie White getting it on with Lincoln in the school gym.
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>>156111660
Is she covered in blood/red paint?
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>>156110931
We already don't care because it's one of the friend orbiters, incest or no incest be damned.
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>>156111660
>>156108725
>I would also like to see more art

In any case, and if it's possible, I'd like to see alt. versions of Leni's cat suit; I mean, from the transparent suit to be unclohte but still using the cat's additaments.
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She could be, but that might be a lot for IP to do. It would complete her look if she was though.
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>>156109697
I want to be converted into teen loud sister ass fat. Nearly all vore art of this franchise is absolute dogshit or the sisters killing one another and I hate it.
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>>156113781
>I want to Turn into a Loud sister
>Then AssVore the Loud family
what the fuck?
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>>156114696
Nice edit
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>>156114696
>when someone saves your paint.net tier edit
Thanks but I think someone had made a better quality edit of the scene
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>>156114580
Same vibes
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>>156114808
Sgow it to me
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I love Lucy
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>>156115204
Same picture
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>>156115204
I love the energy of this one.
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Post crossover characters who would have an interest in a Loud family member as well ad why and how it happens
>wednesday addams
The Addams family visited Royal Woods for both a getaway vacation and future prospects
Wednesday was walking down the street when she spotted an advertisement for the Mortician's club
While she knew she could never join the club long term, she hoped it would be a moment of respite from the cheeriness of Royal Woods
And what a respite it was as each child regaled Wednesday with their poetry, their artistic intent, and their interpretive dance
However it wasn't until the post meetup did her heart beat profusely for another
A boy, hair as white as snow and smile as bright as the sun, mingled with each member of the club
Wednesday didn't know if he sat quietly in the back the whole time or if he arrived only after the end, but she knew she had to meet him
Upon introducing herself to the boy, now named Lincoln, she felt her heart ache even more for him
Lincoln appeared to be just a happy-go-lucky sort of lad but he was able to share his understanding of anguish and the appreciation of the macabre that others had presented and still maintain such a positive disposition that Wednesday couldn't help but hope to see more of him
And so, she kept in contact with Lucy, as she couldn't bring herself to directly request his information and his little sister was the best she could do, and she confided in the younger goth that she hoped Lincoln would potentially be one of her future suitors
And when questioned at what she meant by "suitors", Wednesday revealed that her family was one of extreme wealth and that convincing her parents of a suitor was going to be no easy feat
And so the combined effort of Lucy and Wednesdat turning Lincoln into a potential husband began
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>>156114146
Not at all what I said, I mean I want to be eaten
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>>156115918
That would make for an awesome crossover episode.

Also makes me wonder if there are any other series that have Loud Sister variants that would try to hook up with Lincoln?
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>>156116960
Classic Luan.
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>>156111570
>>156111570
How do you mean, like if they were fuckups? I don't know, I kind of like that they're naturals and obvious future superstars. They still fuck up anyway. It's kind of an interesting dichotomy with Lincoln where he was kind of the everyman which led to the best and most moving song the show has released so far, 'Ordinary Me' from the first movie, one of my favorite sequences in the entire franchise. Of course now it's come into sharper focus that Lincoln's talent is getting people out of jams and taking care of things socially. I think in the future he should be their manager/agent, I think that would be the most satisfying outcome. There's a good fic on that subject too, Living Loud Talent Agency.
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>>156115918
That's a pretty fucking cool idea. Thanks anon, I enjoyed reading that. Lincoln being mister boy next door is a natural and interesting pairing with Wednesday. And he's also got experience with crazy chicks and crazy families. Not bad. Pretty interesting thought experiment. I'm not sure about his willingness to run some sort of gauntlet to be her suitor unless he really fell in love with her though. Maybe Lucy could assist there with a love potion, I'm sure she'd be more than interested in being a sister-in-law to the Addams family. Hmm.
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>>156097411
Him.
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On the topic of crossovers, one idea I've had for a while is Lucy meeting Dipper Pines. While she is a little more morbid than most for him, I think the two could get along well with their love of all things spooky and occult.
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>>156117558
>You now remember the time that Nickelodeon unironically referred to this Lincoln as a "your favorite goth E-Boy"
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>>156076534
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This show is foverer tarnished.
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>>156076920

>Some fag got really uppity
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>>156120140
This show is forever a litmus test for normiehood. If you like TLH, you've avoided the many thresholds of being a normie faggot.
>Booo hooo, boo hoo, there's porn of my cartoons!
Get over it or go watch sitcoms with laugh tracks like a good boring slopeater.
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>>156120224
Never liked it.
Not just because all the bullshit you do with fucking 5-year-old but also of how even the show itself was ruined by its own creator and then my Nickelodeon.
The new Spongebob they can milk to death.
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Did you just walk in from twitter or something? You sound like yet another dime-a-dozen whiny ESL bitch. I don't care what what the fandom does, I don't care what the creator did or did not do, it's not part of the show, guilt by association is gay and so are you. We don't need you to come in here to a thread about something you dislike to enlighten us with your sage wisdom about how cartoon characters work and look exactly the same as the things they're based on. I bet you watched one or two episodes to see how "bad" it is and left. Go back.
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>>156120224
I like both...
Can't a guy enjoy both Seinfeld wnd lid house incest porn without being judged?
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>>156120494
No. Not only am I judging you, I'm Mike Judging you.
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>>156076419
You walk into your older sister's room and she gives you this look. wyd?
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>>156111412
that artist draws SUCH an adorable lana.
would pat head verily!
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>>156111762
i hope so, with lincoln having a confused boner, kek!
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>>156114580
i'm first!
no, i'm first!
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>>156119222
Who doubts it? In his own way he's crush bait just like his sisters. Though if we're talking goth e-boys, they should have used a pic from when he dressed in Lucy's style for that one scene in the roommate episode with Lynn, that was way better. With the black shirt and white hair and the pants and the guyliner or whatever it was? Even I practically gasped out loud when I saw him at how good he looked in that style so I can't imagine what it was like for people who's thing that is. He always looks aesthetic but that was like one of those scenes in the movies where the nerdy chick takes off her glasses and undoes her ponytail and she's suddenly extremely hot, like boiling, insane hot.
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>>156121244
Holy shit, dude..
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>>156121853
https://files.catbox.moe/5o2uns.png
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>>156118208
Are there ever any cavity search jokes with women as the victim?
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>>156101330
Why does there seem to be more Luan x Dad shipping compared to him and his other children?
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>>156118635
I've long had the idea of Lana (redhat twin) meeting the DeVille twins from All Grown Up. Lola wouldn't like the amount of mud type activities that would happen.
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>>156122867
kek fuck yes I was hoping the previous pic was a prelude to something more. I really love this pairing. Carolcoln.
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>>156122949
Because they have a particular bond. See the episode "Feast or Family".
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>>156122949
They just seem to have the most in common and share interests, namely cooking and jokes.
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>>156122949
They seemed to get along really well. Even early on in the show Lynn Sr was the only one who seemed to really get Luan and her sense of humor.
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>>156122907
Bearish and Bitthead Do America had one. Most of them were done to males but they did one to the lady villain and she makes a joke about it.
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>>156122867
>>156123008
Oh yeah, I should have mentioned, the pic itself is awesome. Carol looks sooo hot. The tight pencil skirt wrapped around her hips? Really excellent. Is this by Gl!b - Glib? Carol is really the ultimate hot, preppy girl I think and that really comes through in this one. Dig how the skirt pools in panel 2 so you can see her exposed lower back. Really sexy.
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Is anyone gonna repost that newest IconicPants Lucy?
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>>156076830

Wonder if they fucked yet?
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>>156121244
Is this real? She post this somewhere or shit's AI?
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>>156123338
I do wonder, sincerely, if he had "a thing" with any of the actresses. Not necessarily fucked ofc, but any level of intimacy and hitting it off in that way.
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>>156123403
>>156123338

I know the Clyde Actor couldn't stop Looking at the Luan Actress in the behind the scenes shorts, I forgot which one but I caught him checking her ass out.
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>>156123403
wut if he & teh lucy actress
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>>156123118
The artist is pokachu
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>>156123382
She's active on instagran and likes posting herself half naked a lot
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>>156124320
Damn, thanks. I actually do know Pokachu and really dig his stuff, realized it the moment you said it. I mixed the two up there.
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>>156124343
It's the fact that she's going for the heavy purple vibe that really gets me. Because that's clearly evoking Luna, as opposed to just the actress.
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>>156115778
hand holding with fingers intertwined. lovely!
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>>156124363
The pic is real but unfortunately it's an edit. The fact the edit fits her so well really shows that purple is her color
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>>156124878
I wonder how fast Wolfgang Schaeffer saved that.
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>>156093098
>>156108725
Hey guys, I'm still around. Here's something I've been working on lately.

https://files.catbox.moe/sw0rgv.jpg

Like Lincoln's sisters, Ronnie Anne has dragged him off to a private place to get her own special Halloween treat. He'll never get to trick or treat in peace. Poor Sid isn't sure where the two disappeared to.

I'm still doing some Halloween requests so drop any more sexy ideas.
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>>156124956
Niiice luv me some RA but damnit, I hate having to repeat this request because it makes me look desperate but I really want Leni.
>Zombie Nurse Leni x Lincoln fuggin
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>>156124956
Nice RA. Nice depiction of her freckles and cute rat teeth.
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>>156124956
Rita in her zombie bride outfit from the last halloween episode
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>>156124956
>I'm still doing some Halloween requests
>Lana dressed entirely in mud, with a (red) flower on top of her head.
"I'm a flowerpot!"
>Luna covered in mud at a (I don't know what to name them) Gwar Tribute band concert. Everyone's in dirty foam rubber partial-costumes.
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>>156124956
Carol as a nun, you know to play off Lori's vampire bride costume, trying to save/lure Lincoln away from Lori's evil clutches
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>>156124956
Lana as a cowgirl (topless in a fringed cowboy vest, bottomless in fringed chaps) riding Lola as a horse (wearing 'ponyplay' type bondage stuff like a bit in her mouth, horse tail buttplug, reins, those limb-binding stocking things that make it so she has to walk on her elbows and knees, and so on). Lana could be saying someting like "Giddy up!" as Lola just mumbles and moans.
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>>156124878
The showrunners clearly knew she was the hottest actress in the series since there's two episodes about boys wanting to fuck her.
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>>156124956
frankenstein the wolfman
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>>156124956
God damn man that's the good shit
Of course I'd like to see a follow up of Sid finding them and enjoying Lincoln's never ending creamsicle as well
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>>156124956
Damn that is good. I hope Sid finds them next time and gets to join in. Maybe rims Lincoln while Ronnie works the front.
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>>156124956
You've been rocking it this Halloween. Suggesting some Lisa for the season.
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>>156124956
Duuude, that's awesome! I really admire the pin-up style pics for the beautiful pieces of art they are and appreciate them in that sense but honestly, action pics like this are really my personal favorite, they're definitely what gets me going the most. Really, really, *really* hot, damn. You know, I don't even like La Tormenta's costume, or at least I didn't before I saw this pic. Turns out I just don't like it on Tormenta, but I love it on RA. You know, the LORE aspect of Ronnie wearing this costume is unironically juicing me up I think even more than a traditional sexy costume would in this situation. It's really giving the scene something extra, some more substance, verisimilitude I guess, and that makes it even hotter, it's making it hit more because it's such a simple but great, believable notion that that'd be RA's costume for Halloween. This is a really cool idea.

Awesome, dude. That and the fact you draw it so well, it's making me take a closer look at RA's body and how you drew that, I guess because of the subconscious physicality of the wrestler look, and right away I'm just really lit up by it. She seriously looks amazing. I feel you extracted one hundred percent of the possible eros of this costume, you knew just what to do to make it look the hottest it could look with her pose, the perspective and what's going on. Those bare pits, man, they are activating my almonds something crazy, no joke; they're like the truffle shavings on a meal. So good. RA looks unbelievably sexy here honestly. The painted nails to go with the costume, by the way, those are really perfect as well.
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>>156124956
>>156125808
Her hands look great with those subtle tips on colored fingernails, such an exciting difference from her usual tomboyness let's say, that she'd take the time to do that maybe even knowing she was going to grab Lincoln and do this later that night...Really activates my imagination about the world it depicts, especially with the immense enticingness of her expression and everything else, and the eyeshadow was a good idea too, it gives the costume the extra complexity I think it needed to really make it pop visually in every way. Her hands look cute and feminine and there's just this faint, subtle cordedness to her forearms you depicted from the shake-weight position they're in that's making them look extra pleasing and going well with the costume's theme.

No kidding, I really like this pic a lot. The white tuft of hair is also excellent btw. The hole in the exterior briefs of the Ace Savvy costume providing access to pushy girlfriends, such a good one. I really like how that looks a lot, the cross between homemade costume and the stitches and everything and, again, this really sexy, realistic detail of the fact they're just painted briefs when you get down to it that he's wearing on the outside. Grasping that and making use of that element for the pics where Linc gets featured is a real stroke of genius imo, I know I've mentioned it before in the Loricoln pic but still. Super boost of eros. RA's devilishly cute expression and cute teeth, also...Man. This really works. This is seriously an awesome, awesome pic. You've really portrayed her charm I think.
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>>156124956
You know, you've been drawing a lot of awesome art for Halloween but I think this one is my favorite so far, I think even more than the colored Loricoln you had in reserve from last year that you posted, and that's saying something considering I'm a total Loricoln dog. It's really that good. Sid is uuultra fucking cute too by the way, what an adorable face you gave her, it's awesome to see her drawn in your style, I hadn't seen your vision of her yet...But honestly, even with that I can hardly even glance at her with RA commanding my attention so hard. RA's posing, her expression, her body, the cool perspective of the shot, the idea, really the everything of the pic, it's really A+. I'm not going to embarass you by gushing about it any further, I know how I can get. But damn IconicPants, this is super. I really dug it a lot. I caught it just as I was heading to bed too, feel like I just drank an espresso now just from looking at it.

I really don't have any suggestions except maybe a part two to this pic, or rather a variant of it, where it's the same pose and everything but she's got one eyelid pasted shut with his cum on her face and tongue and dripping down her fingers. Maybe that's just my greed talking though since like I said, I am really into this one.
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>>156072175
I love spooky girls!
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>>156089334
This right here is how you draw an awesome butt while still remaining near entirely on-model.
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>>156124956
I took mine from previous threads.

But now that you already made one for RA, well, this time could be Carlota and/or Maria, to avoid repeating the same character and the 'complexity' of the request. Thanks:

"Taking the idea as a scene from the 'Three Witches,' Lincoln meets RA, Maria (RA's mother), and Carlota dressed as witches (How's that they're there? Maybe he got lost in the woods and-or for some/any 'mysterious reason' they were very close to his location).

Their clothes could be from dresses, long cloths like the reference for them (or a clothes with skirt for RA like in the same reference) that show a lot more skin and nothing that covers their bodies' charming areas (haha, get it?) and just along using hat, choker and thighhighs. (If it's possible, and also as an option, Maria has her hair down, there's also left a reference).

https://files.catbox.moe/rdjqhe.png

Well, so that it doesn't have too many creative complications, you can put RA in the foreground and the other two in the background. (And you'll see if you want to make versions where they take turns being in the foreground)."
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>>156115918
How would Lincoln convince an eccentric billionaire couple to let him date their only daughter?
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Oh this.

This is beautiful. I did already put my own idea in about Lincoln and Nikki so there's that, but I do wish Sid would have joined Ronnie.

Also as a side note Pants, do you take commissions too or just requests?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZLkqYy-LvA
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>>156126925
Margot look good in jeans. Nice street clothes.
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It's her day
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z66_CEaXZL8
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>>156125363
Lana would probably prefer to be the pony, although it'd be funnier with Lola.
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>>156127626
Margo is cute in an ugly duckling kind of way. Her being a shyer less confident Lynn is also nice.I like when she shows up.
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>>156127372
When darkness falls in the house of Loud ...
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>>156128277
Margot is one of the better Loud friends. probably because she was introduced before they became a fixture.

I like to think Lynn likes to uave her around because she looks prettier standing next to her
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>>156128992
That makes since. Lynn has a chip on her shoulder from having prettier older sisters. Having a best friend that she's not only a better athlete than but also better looking and more outgoing than probably helps her self esteem.
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>years later
>lincoln, now a teenager, still reads comics in his underwear
>rita watches as the friends of her daughters all enter her home, notice lincoln in his underwear, and proceed to stumble or run into a wall while staring at lincoln
>rita confronts Lincoln and tells him that he has to wear more clothing
>lincoln is annoyed but complies to his mother demands
>a few days later rita sees a group of young girls protesting her lawn
>their only demand is to let lincoln freely wear underwear
>rita's face when
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>>156124956
Not a new request at all, just, if it's possible, from Leni's cat suit get som alt. version of her; I mean, from the transparent suit to be unclohte but still using the cat's additaments.
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>>156129636
It's the spook house, it's the spook house

>>156093098
>>156098491

Which fits better for this: 13 misadventures in one night or misadventures over 13 hours?
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>>156129793
Not sure which is more confusing: How Lola gets around in that mermaid costume, or how Lana managed to give herself a peg-leg.

Lisa hiding Lily in her pouch can be explained by dimensional portals, obviously, but the twins don't have access to her super-science.
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>>156129793
There's a really good "Lisa being evil" gag when she shows off her and Lily's costume. Lisa brags that having Lily along for the d'awww factor will rake in more candy, "and the best part is, she only has one tooth, so I don't have to share."

Note that Lisa is holding her hands over Lily's ears so that she can't hear that last part. Lisa knows she's using her baby sister as a prop and not as a partner, and doesn't have any qualms about that when Halloween candy is involved.
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I'm glad I found out how to change the board theme because Lucy with that chainsaw with all that halloween stuff was 2spooky4me.
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>>156126962
You've got a lot of fucking nerve using the actors from that Wednesday show instead of from The Addams Family movies, zoomer.

Anyway it sure wouldn't be easy. Calculating mind or not Lincoln is exactly the sort of pleasant, sweet Mr. Sunshine type boy they're terrified their third son is going to grow up to be. Maybe something could be done with Morticia...Some sort of 'private interview' to see if he's right for her daughter...
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>>156127025
Not IconicPants but you forgot to link to the post, man. What was your idea with Nikki anyway? I like her too.
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>>156129172
>>156128992
You guys are terrible. You're judging her by the behaviors of those awful basic bitch chicks but she's special and raised right, she doesn't have that kind of malice or cruel utilitarianism in her, even if she might could feel weird her sisters are the prettiest girls in the world. Shoot, she's super pretty too.
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>>156130493
Lola probably hops around in the tail holding the them like a potato sack and Lana probably has her leg bent and tied back in her pants so that the peg leg is more like a plunger stuck on her knee. I think that's how people do pirate costumes with peg legs.
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>Open door
>See this
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>>156130805
this lily is SO cute!!!!
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>>156131257
I hope they love coal :)
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>>156130909
What's that anon? You like sisters with chainsaws?
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>>156131257
>Better outfit
So Lola is salty, and Lana is spicy?
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drew a vampire lori, happy halloween!
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>>156131636
Give them some sugar
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>>156131855
That is one SINISTER looking Lori, dude. Nice work, and Happy Halloween!
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What the heck, I'll do it for you. Hey IconicPants, this post:
>>156127025
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>>156131370
I like chainsaws, man
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>>156131855
Awesome. Thanks, anon!
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>>156132079
Ah, thank you! My initial idea was Nikki as Carrie White getting it on with Lincoln in the school gym, heh.
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https://youtu.be/RJRw9rgV1w0
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>>156128277
Yeah she's totally ugly-cute.
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Have a good Halloween guys. Hope you all get a good batch of trick-or-treaters,
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>>156131008
Shut up, Lincoln
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>>156132447
cute!!!!!!
>>156132879
need a short animation of him going from worried to happy to worried again, looping.
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>>156126401
>Let's get that urethra nice and loose, anon!
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>>156134771
>I'm scaroused!
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>>156127372
>>156128213
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXvsnE3p2RM
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>>156135440
Luna's Halloween Song : You've been tricked
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halloween bump
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>>156131370
>POV: you got tired of Leni's airheadedness and try to gently break up with her
>everything seemed fine until you woke up strapped to a table in a dimly lit basement before Leni begins sawing.
>at least she was nice enough to sew up your wounds. Those limbs were cramping your beautiul style anyhow.
>now you can't leave.
>now Leni can have you all to herself, whenever she wants.
>you can even help her make clothes as her personal living, breathing mannequin. What a helpful lover you are.
>What were you ever thinking?
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>>156130950
I haven't seen the netflix series, but I know it was popular that's why I used it
Also
>cucking gomez
You make me sick
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>>156131855
Great drawing, anon
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Happy Lucy Day
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>>156137890
Favorite mtf girl.
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>>156137890
-sylvania 6500
https://youtu.be/kZg6lQupUHE?si=4qAmH9JIvO9LLog7
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>>156137480
Thnx
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>>156137453
Well I wouldn't ordinarily suggest it but the Addams are so freaky that honestly he might be into it. Doesn't Gomez like to get tortured by his wife or something in the movies, getting strapped into racks and iron maidens by her? I think I remember that. Anyway I enjoy the idea of a goth mom first using this cute unsuspecting boy with no say in the matter herself followed then by using him to educate her goth daughter on those finer points of romance. That's a REAL welcome to the family.
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>>156138568
Only if the cute unsuspecting boy is dressed to look like her husband and they are roleplaying her going back in time to train her future husband on how to pleasure her
Physically cucking but not emotionally or mentally
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>>156136485
I wouldn't even be upset being leni's fucknugget
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>>156137890
Goth gock.
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>>156141224
I imagine her first as characteristically reserved and posh inviting Lincoln to discuss something with her privately, him a little intimidated psyching himself up to win over his girlfriend's mom, her offering a cup of tea in the drawing room as she asks him some questions that start normally then begin getting more and more personal, then passing out and waking up in some sort of rack or something where she'd impassively put him through his paces, sexually, to make sure he's an appropriate match for her daughter, as the Addams girls have boiling hot libididos. Then, after she was satisfied, she'd call Wednesday in and Lincoln would beg for her help and tell her it's not what it looks like, but Morticia would just tell him to hush and then start using him to teach her daughter the finer points of these sort of things, which Wednesday would go along with as she's also crazy and her mom's daughter. Anyway, just a one time thing or perhaps maybe a course over the summer he'd be obligated to attend and 'help' with, but it's more about Wedsneday and the new dynamic in their relationship as she sees how she has to take him in hand than Morticia. Anyway there you go, that's my idea for how something like that might go.
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>>156141955
Is there like a TheFreshKnight archive somewhere? Or anyone around here who has all (or at least a lot of) the old stuff like this that he deleted? I'm still seeing new to me old art oh his like this all the time, he must have deleted just piles of stuff. Guessing a lot of it was on the Loud Booru.
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>>156142488
https://exhentai.org/g/3197102/879015ba85
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I’m not sure if it’s a mistake, but IMDb has the titles for the first two episodes of Season 12.
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>>156143258
Look at this. Who could hate this? What a fag you would have to be.
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>>156143446
What are they call?
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>>156143446
>>156144333
Nevermind I found them.
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>>156144384
>It's totally cancelled guys, stop coping!
What a retard that guy is.
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>>156145064
Damn I wish this happened in the show.
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>>156145680
Hey, this thing >>156143446 was the one that started this.
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>>156145887
I was referring to this jerk that insists on claiming anyone who disagrees with him is coping and seething and always engages in every conversation possible as disingenuously as possible. Very irritating poster, not that specific anon.
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>>156141650
GAY!
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Has there ever been a fanfiction where Mr. Grouse is creeping on the loud family, I feel like that has to have been written at some point.
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>>156141650
Blessed. Need more gay Lincoln.
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>>156148631
No. Stop looking.
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>>156149110
Not into it, just curious.
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>>156149659
Y'know, as joke haha.
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>>156145064
RA should be in the middle
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>>156142780
That's so cute, and great costume ideas for the characters.
A Pavi-Neesha candy bender phone game sounds cute and funny. Half a repackaged pachinko, and half spinning horizontal whirlwinds of candy.
>Lana plays to unlock the Fortress of Mud level.
>Lola plays to unlock the Seven (levels) Havens and hold a beauty contest summit.
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>>156150801
Was she merely overheated, or did she run into a tree or wall again?
How often does Sports Loud get hit in the head?
>with her own baseball bat, accidentally
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>>156098466
Hot. They're coming for their nightly dose of Lincoln.
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>>156152915
Yes, they also have to teach him how to please a woman after all. That's what sisters are for.
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>>156153182
Really cute. I love all their outfits.
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>>156141650
I get it's a art style dissonance but Lincoln's head looks HUGE!
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>>156142488
>he must have deleted just piles of stuff
Surely not!
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Found a Lucy doodle:
https://i.4cdn.org/s4s/1793594293275940.jpg
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>>156152915
This is such a fantastic, classic pic. And you have to admit the girls are making some VERY compelling arguments in it. Artist's name is ta43421 or something, ta and a bunch of numbers, does anyone know his handle? I majorly dig his stuff.)
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>>156155638
Is today really the tenth anniversary of No Guts, No Glori? Man, I love that episode. In retrospect it was a bit of a turning point in Lincoln and Lori's relationship, they didn't go right back to their old bickering after that in the episodes that followed, which is kind of what I was expecting to happen...Not that they became kumbaya carebears with each other or anything either, but you really got a sense of, well- I've always said Lincoln craves Lori's respect while Lori feels threatened by Lincoln constantly slipping her bridle the most out of her siblings. Maybe it's a bit of headcanon but I've always felt it to be a very interesting relationship, the most interesting between him and any other sister imo (not that there aren't also other cool ones). I've always thought this episode was really interesting in how Lincoln was unanimously elected leader even by his older siblings after Lori was overthrown. If you're cynical you could say it's because they all thought they'd be able to undermine his authority but I really don't think most of them were thinking that far ahead, they just went with him, unanimously. In any case Lori and Lincoln playing videogames together at the end of the episode after everyone else has gone to bed was a truly excellent moment. Lincoln and Lori are more alike than any of the other siblings in a certain way.
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>>156156525
Wait a minute, holy shit, one of these things is not like the other! Take a look at the sisters! Lynn's face is one of pure sadness and envy! Fuck, deepest lore...
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Pretty sure one of Lisa's Mad Science machines could do the trick.
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>>156157040
Meant for >>156156933
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>>156156564
I also just noticed Lucy's expression too. I didn't notice because she's usually frowning but in this context with everyone else smiling (besides Lynn) it seems like she'd have a small smile too, but no. In fact it almost looks like there's a tear in her eye even. Fuck, Lynncoln and Lucycoln are such superships, they really are the biggest ones.
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>>156156172
this is nice luci
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>>156157505
Trvthnvke
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>>156158071
Niiiiicccceee
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>>156152915
good art but i dont like the rapey vibe.
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>>156157461
nice luna, cant wait for a chunky update on helping hand.
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>>156158708
That IS a real nice Luna. Some sweet work.
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>>156158071
So fucking hot. Fuck.
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>>156122949
She's a daddy's girl. Her, Lola, and Lynn look to get along more with him.
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>>156133772
Could really go for some moar Margot fanart. Maybe someone can post her cutest fan content. Interested to see various artist's take on ugly-cute.
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>>156161023
I think Luna also fits as one the girls that pairs well with Lynn Sr.
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>>156161318
Fits that the two girls that share a room and a lot already would both pair so well with Lynn Sr.
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Next year it will be the tenth anniversaries of both 'A Brawl in the Family' in January, and 'No Such Luck' in March.
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>>156158676
That just makes it better.
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>>156163869
>Magical Fairy Queen-sama visits the Loud House.
>Announces that one of the sisters has been chosen as the next Magical Princess Defender of the Universe.
>Lola naturally assumes it's her, as this is the role she's been training for all her life.
>Turns out it's Lana, due to her pure heart.
>Both twins go WTF.
>Magical Fairy Queen-sama thinks about it, decides that both twins can have the job, with two conditions:
>Lana has to teach Lola how to be a selfless heroine.
>Lola has to teach Lana how to wear a Magical Girl dress and act the role properly.
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>Lisa (Science Girl) gets whisked away by the Care Bears.
>Lisa is judged to be a cold-hearted, logic instead of emotion kid. The CBs try to teach her about having fun and being a kid.
>Lisa calls home to use her robot to tell Luna that she's alright and will be late. "I shpent a lot of work making that shell phone look like a Star Ace communicashions device!"
>Lisa states that she considers the Care Bears to be magical, but since magic doesn't exist, only the provable facts of science, neither does the Care Bears.
>The CBs have their hands full as Lisa reorders their village to be more productive, rebuilds a Cloud Car to run better, and handcuffs Shrieky to a railing.
>Lisa admits that she should value her family more, but they go by in such a blur that it's them that's ignoring her, and uses her robot in a sweater and wig to prove it.
>The CBs admit that they were wrong. But before they drop her off, Lisa suggests that they do something fun together.
>Leni just says "Nah, couldn't be." as she turns off the news that is showing Lisa and Cheer Bear having turned the Major Sports Game Arena into a waterslide park.
>End scene of Luan walking up to Shrieky with evil laughter and lightning.
Shrieky: "Oh, Doughnut holes..."
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its getting cold
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>>156163050
Being raped by Leni is a privilige
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>>156166232
What a bratty temptress.
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>>156166952
She knows she's got the assets so she might as well show them off.
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>>156166380
One thread per catalog.
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>>156166380
>only talk about Lucy
Sorry, that's gonna be a pass from me dawg.
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>>156166380
I don't want to focus on just one sister. I'd rather a general Loud thread.
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>>156165390
Went out to vote today and it's t-shirt weather.
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Have a Leni
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>>156166232
Lola really needs to get fucked up the ass. Her and Lincoln need to have a long intimate night of ALL ANAL.
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>>156166232
What song is she playing?
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I know that it's already a past and discussed topic, but in truth the note, bit continuing: https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155985073/#156008235, this doesn't seem to me,and dispense if it would be sounds non-graceful...It's understandable as well the response that many like this news; but equally, many others, at least considering the circle that followed the show, their posture is opposite to it.

To be brief, I don't like this path for the series. The changes mentioned in the video are like an "artificial life support" for the show, rather than indicating a revitalizing boost, as most people seem to think. Ambitiously this could actually damage the IP—by unnecessarily extending its execution (like SpongeBob SquarePants) or forcing a drastic change that could lead to a semi-reboot or a path outside the original line (like FOP, Avatar spin-offs, etc.). In such cases, the creative potential and overall quality are —unfortunately— in a state of uncertain ambiguity.

Everyone has expressed their positions in previous threads in a variety of contrasts, giving credence to some installments and some of the audience who have taken what is redeemable from the series; but it has also been said that the show, although it should have ended some time ago, is currently unsustainable in foward. Even with the contrasting efforts made to maintain the rise of IP, its current reputation is not the same as before and these 'changes' are far from something good as it wants to be shown (it is a matter of seeing the other shows already mentioned in similar condition).

And it's not something said with a blind or disproportionate disdain from any adrementator, it's from someone who followed the series to a certain extent that things demonstrated a decremental change.
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>>156171811
>but it has also been said that the show, although it should have ended some time ago, is currently unsustainable in foward.
They've been saying this since Savino left, I'm not worried about it either way.
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>>156170656
She is pretty.
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>>156171811
The show was already soft rebooting, that's bugged me since they started that in season 8. They also decided to focus on having a different Loud Family inserted in there, Lori moved back but living in a garage next door. Trying too hard at times to recapture things from season 1. etc. I don't know what else to expect but more a weirder direction.
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>>156172995
>Trying too hard at times to recapture things from season 1.
What do you mean, is trying to feel like when the show was at it's best again not a good thing? How is this a negative?



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