>loses the ability to star in movies because his face is disfigured>gains shapeshifting powers that not only allow him to fix his face but also turn into literally anything he wants at any time>"OH WOE IS ME! MY LIFE IS FOREVER RUINED! I'LL NEVER ACT AGAIN AND THE ONLY SENSIBLE APPLICATION OF MY NEW SUPERPOWERS IS TO USE THEM TO MURDER PEOPLE!"And people say this show has great writing.
his cock is permanently soft, he has a reason to be pissed
>>156074306If Clayface can turn his hands into lobster claws than he should be able to give himself a giant horse cock too desu.
>>156074284His brain turned to mush too
>>156074284so I guess you didn't actually watch the episode
>>156074306>his cock is permanently soft>Can literally turn his natural 5" erect human cock, into a massive 30" horse cock within seconds>Can also literally turn said massive horse cock, into some hoard of monstrous tentacle completely movable in all direction cockS with an S plural that are able to shift in length and width and shoot out massive amounts of body fluids at will!>And then laugh off the horror of the womans face as he then turns said tentacle rape cluster penises. Into a normal jacked 10" long 8" thick perfectly shaped white penisFuck normal acting and pedowood. Dude could become the most legendary porn star the GOAT'd period no one would ever beat him. Being able to star in whatever crazy shit some coked out director comes up with. Millions of dudes&women would be furiously masterbaiting to the insane filth this guy stared in.Till clayface goes fuck it and creates his own studio outside of America to bypass all laws. Producing the greatest smut ever made he would be in every video. But he wouldnt even have to be fucking. It would turn into a wheres waldo type situation, as dude hides himself in every scene while also splitting his body into the camera man. Hiding as the bed, a carpet a fucking toilet. Dude would be rolling in money for the rest of his life and legit remember forever as the guy who made the greatest porn ever the most fucked up porn ever the guy who created dozens if not hundreds of new genres of porn/filmThe guy who made a 50 million dollar budget porno and 3-5X'd his money. Then a few years later one up himself by producing a 250-300 million dollar literal epic the most degenerate porno known to man with a 10k orgy all captured on IMAX 70mm film something only a hand full of directors are able to produce because their is only a few cameras and like 3 dozen projectors in the world. The cost of making the spool of film in theatres is insane because only a single company can do it shit weighs a literal ton and is km's long
>>156074284As far as I know, him using his transformation isn't something simple, he has to physically exert himself to maintain a form, like he is flexing a bunch of muscles all the time just to keep a human appearance. Even disregarding that, it took a toll on his mind, too.
>>156074572I did and I actually liked it a lot but I think Clayface's motivations for wanting to kill Daggett didn't make any sense. Imagine I give you superpowers with no drawbacks. Why would you waste them killing the guy who gave them to you?It's not even like Hagen can't live a normal life again either. He could totally just shapeshift back into his old self and return to being an actor again. >>156074624>he has to physically exert himself to maintain a form, like he is flexing a bunch of muscles all the time just to keep a human appearanceGiven the numerous times throughout the episode where he was able to take on a convincing human form (the security guard in the hospital, the old woman in the audience of the talk show), I don't really see how that's true.
>>156074680I do think it is stated in the comics that it is physically and mentally straining, like, it makes him tired, and if he gets hurt or pissed or loses focus in any way the transformation starts to fail, but you know how it is, the story needs to happen so that only happens when it is convenient for the story.
>>156074680Nta but I don't think you understood how the only reason that he kept is disguise when trying to kill Dagget was because he had nobody startling him and even before becoming Clayface was shown to have very little self-control. And all of this was before he was starting to break down and couldn't even hold his form in public for long. When Matt realized how hard it was to keep a form without a goal such as getting revenge, he gave up and simply wanted Dagget to pay, until he tried to get a cure which obviously mean not asking Batman che help and commenting crime.
>156074284>if I pretend to be retarded I will get pity bumps for my thread
>>156074680He has to keep concentrating. Kinda makes it hard for him to actually relax and enjoy life. I'm sure it'll be great when he's banging a chick and globs back to his real form.
>>156074961>I'm sure it'll be great when he's banging a chickBTAS Clayface is gay.
>>156074284His shapeshifting powers also gave him psychosis. His mind is as disfigured as his body is, basically.
>>156074882That's almost every thread these days. Fags think the only way they can get replies is by acting in bad faith or trolling.
>>156074977He had a thing for the the doctor chick who was a literal second a way from curing him, before batman stopped the process just to be a douche.
>>156074284wasent he a bad actor anyway?
>>156074977>>156075036>One of his mud clone was a little girl Robin fell in love withWas this the most memorable thing to come from New Adventures?
>>156075047He was convincing enough for Fox to have a panic nigga moment when Bruce came to the hospital to talk to him.
The cartoon for children outright explains that he can't hold on to his form indefinitely, outright explaining it's like tensing a muscle. Are you dumber than a child?Did you not catch the follow up episode where he's stealing chemicals that will allow him to keep a shape indefinitely and Batman's trying to stop him because he's doing it through stealing?
Unrelated, but I only started watching BTAS for the first time recently and I'm surprised that the gangsters in this show use actual guns and how dark some of the stories are.Compare this to other animated shows of the time like Spider-Man TAS where the censorship was so bad that only laser guns were allowed and Spidey wasn't even allowed to punch people.
>>156075062What a strange design for a nose
>>156075036What the fuck, Batman's whole thing with not killing or handicapping is supposed to be redeeming them. That's dogshit.
>>156075141https://dcanimated.com/WF/sections/specials/spidermantas/interviews/interviews/richardson/>Richardson: I think we had a tougher time with BS&P because of the realistic design style that we decided to use for Spider-Man, as opposed to the more stylized Batman series. I was told by BS&P that Batman was a cartoonier show; therefore the restrictions were a little more liberal. Batman was also considered a period piece, because of the style, so they got away with fewer restrictions because it was felt that you were watching something from another era.>In addition, Batman started before an increased sensitivity to violence became more prevalent in children's TV. Also, FOX didn't have the magnifying glass on them like the other three major networks when they first started their big push into children's programming. But, eventually, everyone was affected by that new sensitivity.Semper's gone on to claim that Spider-Man never punching anybody was his decision and not something forced on them by BS&P.
>>156075203Batman offered to help him at the beginning of the episode and Clayface said no. He was stealing, and he was going to use his upgraded powers for nothing good (Clayface then goes on to try to suffocate him to death), so he had to be brought in.
>>156075036>before batman stopped the process just to be a douche.Reminds of the time Preston Payne Clayface invented a machine to cure himself and Batman fucking blew it up for literally no reason.
>>156075223>Batman was also considered a period piece, because of the style, so they got away with fewer restrictions because it was felt that you were watching something from another era.Huh, of all things I never thought that would be the reason. Really just goes to show how retarded TV networks are.
>>156075276He was stealing those devices and he was killing people to do it.
>>156075338Kids will accept laser guns in a present day cartoon, lasers in something that resembles the prohibition era is just too goofy.
>>156075350True, but wouldn't it have made more sense to arrest him AFTER he cured himself of the condition that makes him addicted to melting people?
>>156074779NGL, those yellow eyes were hot, seemed kinda feline, like Selina's in Tyger, Tyger
>>156075062This, Scarecrow's redesign, and the Batgirl Dies episode, yeah.The only other episode that gets talked about (at least on /co/) is the second Baby Doll episode, and that's only to gripe about the story and jerk off to Dahl's redesigned midget body.
>>156075382There's no guarantee the thieving murderer's device would have done what he was claiming it would. The state wasn't able to cure him when they caught him so it likely wouldn't have worked anyway.
Like all Batman villains, his experience drove him mad. It's like asking why Mr. Freeze doesn't just patent and sell his amazing cryotechnology, or the Riddler just use his genius to become rich and powerful legally. They're nuts. That's even the tragedy of the character, he finally has the means to be the greatest actor ever but he's too broken to use it.
>>156075424"Over the Edge" was pretty good too.
>>156074604>>156074325no pleasure for him though.
>>156075141They did have a little pushback at some point.
>>156075488Over the Edge is the "Batgirl Dies" episode.
>>156075251>Batman offered to help him at the beginning of the episode That's one reason BTAS Batman is the best version. He's always shown offering to help his villains and actually caring about them and wanting them to be better. He only fights them when they reject it. "AKSHUALLY BATMAN IS JUST AS CRAZY AS THEM" or "BATMAN JUST LIKES BEATING PEOPLE UP" is so tiresome.
>>156075338Censors and parental groups generally care more about how close to home something is in terms of content. There’s a weird case of Teenage mutant Ninja Turtles in the UK having to ban Mikey’s nunchucks, because nunchucks were easy enough to get ahold of in the UK to be an issue. Not so much katanas or sais, so no issue was raised for those.
>>156075414Her eyes were green tho, but I agree.It also reminds the eyes of Francine Langstorm turned into orange when she goes into She-Bat.
>>156075561Yeah, I remember some cartoon commentary where they said they could show old-school Tommy guns but not modern guns because a kid today is never going to have access to a Tommy gun.
Clayface can't taste burgers anymore.
>>156075541This was just something common for Batman in general in the past, Golden Age Batman lobbied to get prisoners work after serving their time, Adam West Batam episodes often ended with him making sure teenage henchmen of the villains were on their way to reform, 80’s Batman would try and set punks right(hell Jason’s second origin is basically that), and even Grant Morrison’s Batman had him get a misguided criminal a job in Wayne Enterprises to the point she became a recurring background character.This concept has fallen by the wayside since the whole concept of prisoner reform has become lost in modern America, for a multitude of reasons people generally don’t see criminals as people who can reform after a crime and a lot of people take prison more as an angle to punish rather than to fix people and reintegrate them to society. Plus there’s also the unfortunate thing that seeing these villains go back to crime makes it hard to feel sympathy. Even within BTAS it becomes an issue. Mad Hatter’s debut episode makes him a pitiable creature, but in his second episode only like two episodes later he’s putting Batman in a coma just to get rid of him, and by his last major episode in BTAS he’s just using his tech to steal money. Making these villains regular makes it hard to make them sympathetic because they need to do basic villain things to keep their story going.
>>156074604>into a massive 30" horse cock within seconds>that's the first thing anon thought ofwhy are you such a flamboyant faggot?
>>156075062doesn't that character reappear in a different canon as his daughter
>>156075713>Plus there’s also the unfortunate thing that seeing these villains go back to crime makes it hard to feel sympathy. Even within BTAS it becomes an issue. Mad Hatter’s debut episode makes him a pitiable creature, but in his second episode only like two episodes later he’s putting Batman in a coma just to get rid of him, and by his last major episode in BTAS he’s just using his tech to steal money. Making these villains regular makes it hard to make them sympathetic because they need to do basic villain things to keep their story going.Eh, they're shown to be insane and so aren't fully in control of their actions. Batman tries to get them mental help and sends them to an asylum, it's not his fault the asylum keeps fucking up.
>>156075508That's amazing and somehow a completely seeable scenario in cartoons.
>>156075788The animation in this episode is so good, man.
Why haven't they used Lock-up again? It's such a waste of an interesting character. Heck, he was so brutal that he made Scarecrow scared.
>>156075918>Why haven't they used Lock-up again?He was in the newest Batman Arkham game. It was VR only though so nobody played it.
I wished we got clean high quality of Clayface cutscenes from the SEGA Mega CD as well.
>>156074284>disfiguredI thought he was just getting wrinkles.
>>156075764Bruce should’ve died here.
>>156074284Its one of the worst cases of escalation. Not enough that he would be a master of disguise, he has have inexplicably strong powers. Motivation is out the window, he's now a super villain doing whatever the writer fucking feels like.>oh no! I cant hold my form for more than a few minutes! Things that would affect clay affect me!>This destroys my career because everyone knows actors are hard working who never have absurd special demands and are always on screen continously for more than a few minutes!
>>156075508Fun fact, Bruce Timm made this to train new storyboard artists. It contains absolutely everything BTAS was NOT allowed to have so that they could spot it. You can see the answer key on the bottom upside down.
>>156075508>>156076220
>>156075713>Mad Hatter’s debut episode makes him a pitiable creature, but in his second episode only like two episodes later he’s putting Batman in a coma just to get rid of himThe comic made a change to that plotline that I think makes it absolutely better.Mad Hatter had absolutely nothing to gain, he just did it because he realized he had never seen Batman happy and it was the only way, in his own madness, he thought he could help.
>>156075785Yes they're meant to be crazy, but crazy people who get sympathy points in real life tend to be deluded crazies who shit themselves and arten't killing people. Batman villains tend to be compulsive but put together enough to plan, it's hard to think the Joker is in a position of pity, he comes off as being aware of what he's doing.
>>156075918Because Lock-Up is a character tailormade for Suicide Squad that for some reason keeps showing up in Batman stuff.
>>156076383Suicide Squad by design uses pre-existing villains, so if anything he'd have to start in Batman comics to move onto SS.
>>156075508Pretty funny how Return of the Joker has almost all of those elements, maybe on purpose.
>>156075223>Semper's gone on to claim that Spider-Man never punching anybody was his decision and not something forced on them by BS&P.Which is a load of shit
>>156074604Anon, Clayface is a fag. Not even memeing. He's a rock hudson tier old hollywood butt bandit. I only recently realized it years later.
>>156076383I like to see him terrifying Arkham villains.
>>156075062The only thing creepier about the stranger danger and disturbing implications of this ep was how every wierd or just lonely low intelligence wierdo online was all OH NOES! THE LITTLE GIRL LARP OF THE MIDDLE AGED HOMOSEXUAL MONSTER THAT LURED AN INNOCENT BOY TO HIS RAPE CAVE DISSAPEARED!!I'm genuinely disturbed by that ep and everyone saying it was sad.
>>156075948And he got blackwashed like Ratcatcher.
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>>156076606an authoritarian white guy whose superpower is jail is too on the nose even for currentyear
>>156075062In the comics he also made a second daughter named Katherine
>>156074284havn't watched since I was like 12 but, didn't the product he used create a dependancy or fucked with his brain and made him a dumbass on top of the fact that he was an easy mode low iq little shit right from the get go?I vaguely recal something like that being mentioned.
>>156074358>>156074624>>156074779>the chemicals altered his mind and turned him evilI hate seeing this trope in media because it just means the writers were dumb and couldn't figure out a good motivation for why a character is doing the things they're doing.
>>156075508The breaking glass one is so stupid but then again kids do jump off buildings with carton wings on so,
>>156074284So, weirdly enough, there is a reason for this. The TAS crew combined the origins of the two original Clayface, the first named Basil who was just a regular actor who got removed from a movie, and subsequently started killing off the actors of said movie in the order they would die in the movie. He didn't have shapeshifting superpowers, he had a funky mask and that was it.Matt Hagan was the first to have superpowers and his name was Clay-Face. With the hyphen. He just found a random radioactive pool in a cave and when he dunked in it he got the shapeshifting powerup. That's it. He just... found a random fuckass cave and took a dip and then was like "Wow I have the ability to do anything!... BETTER FUCKING DO SOME CRIME!" He seriously gained the power to do anything and his plan A was to grab 10K meant for a police fund, and being handed to Batman. Like he actually waited until the handoff to make his move. He also had a Cinderella time limit where if he didn't dunk in the radioactive pool every 48 ours he suddenly loses his powers.So, the TAS crew apparently felt that "Actor who gets pissed off he lost a role" was more compelling than "Crime because crime" dude and combined the two, and here we are. Kind of fucks with the overall storytelling, though.
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>>156077298They combined the third Clayface as well with his tragic story. Basil also already became the mud monster before TAS aired in Mudpack
>>156077298>With the hyphenOh like how peter insists its spider-man. Hows it suposed to sound, tho. Is there a pause in between?
>>156075753Are you thinking of Cassius? Cassius is a boy
>>156077430Apparently so as to differentiate him from the unrelated(And at the time NOT superpowered) Clayface.But then Basil stole some blood from 2 completely different clayfaces in a teamup as >>156077360 mentioned so I guess Matt decided turnabout was fair play.
>>156074604Is it gay if I fucked Clayface's clay vagina when he disguised himself as a woman?
>>156075508>None of these people ever seen what anime did before.
>>156077568No. You went into that scenario believing you were having sex with a biological woman.
>>156074284Where was Clayface in Batman Beyond?
>>156076673Delet
>>156074284Alright, I'm going to assume someone already said it here but it bears repeating if so, there were very clear limits to his powers. He described the shapeshifting like tensing a muscle, it was impossible for him to maintain the appearance of a normal human being for more than a few moments, meaning he had to look like a lumpy mud creature nearly all the time.
>>156074284Anon Clayface can't keep his original human form for very long, or any shape really. That horrible monster form is now the default. It's like trying to fix your posture or suck in your gut 24/7, eventually you have to relax and let the muscle loose. That and Clayface is vulnerable to moisture, extreme heat, and of course electrical currents. And if he REALLY exerts himself too far, he'll be a puddle for a while.Being Clayface is not fun
>>156077667In a canister somewhere according to Justice League.
>>156077714Arkham Clayface probably saw it as being fun since he's based on pre-Flashpoint Basil Karlo who liked being a monster
what a waste of quints
>>156077777There's joy in his sadistic performances, but that's really the only escape he has. He's not even Basil/Matt anymore, he imitates everyone to fill a psychological void. He can't stop being an actor, because he has virtually no identity of his own besides the criminal career that is Clayface. He's so pathetic that he's STILL chasing that dream of being a star again, and can't let it go
>>156077899This is beautifully said and that might be true for most Clayfaces nowadays but pre-Flashpoint Basil was already psycho before he willingly became the monster
>>156077586That was the movie, it was allowed to get away with a whole lot more than the TV anime. You NEVER get to see in detail, the level of body horror Hokuto Shinken does to people in the anime.
