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#373
You keep scraps? We take baby!
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>>156113497
Well that changes a few things. Hopefully big dick human superiority can fix this.
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>>156113519
yeah they will have to break off with the great society sooner or later
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>>156113497
>give monkeys a hammer
>life ruined
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The thing that changed Kass looked like a piece of trash/scrap.

Vizlet easily could have given Viracroix one or more antiquities of immense value by mistake because the Great Society didn't tell the other enclaves what they were looking for, hence why everything needed to be sent to them.
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alright which one of you made a yinglet mod for songs of syx?
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>>156115387
?
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>>156115507
it's an indie city building game that has different races with bonus and such. someone made a mod that yinggers
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>>156114873
>could
not even a question imo, otherwise they wouldn't keep paying tip-top prices for them if they were only given trash
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>>156115387
There's one fot rimworld as well
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Inb4 someone walks in on their meeting and gets them in trouble.
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>>156117342
>>156117342
Cute.
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>>156115857
It's probably not even a big deal to viaroix, only valuable because yinglets are in stone age technology.
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I still want to rub vizlets cute little traitor snoot.
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>>156117342
incredible watercolors
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>>156113497
An interesting turn of events to put in contrast with a previously seen one.
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>>156117491
Nah. Ivenmoth pays human scavengers too, and Viracroix knew about or had good reason to believe in the existence of magic supertechnology since the beginning of the strip.
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>>156118242
I mean just because what he gives the enclave is incredibly valuable to the yinglets doesn't mean it has a particularly high value to humans. He could be giving them trash fir trash but it'd still be invaluable to vizlet. One man's trash and all that.
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>>156117342
LIPPIE
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>>156117342
Kari is a great artist.
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>>156118883
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>>156117342
I wonder if anon is going to carve a yinglet or baxxid pumpkin this year.
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>>156113497
Cow tools energy.
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so this is very much just a PDA
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>>156120331
Looks like a microwave.
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>>156113497
i honestly dont see what she did wrong.

are the yinglet enclaves secretly against humans?
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>>156120331
that seems suspiciously advanced
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>>156121141
She gave antiquities to Viracroix, even if they technically were “scrap”
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>>156120331
Looks like a control panel that's been ripped off its related device to me
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>>156121141
She sold this masterpiece to filthy humans.
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>>156121141
Going off context clues and the extra text it seems like the yinglet theocracy claims a divine right to antiquities and Vizlets actions were the equivalent of a 14th century catholic parish selling off relics to heathens.
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>>156121932
ah, i see.

i just cant take yinglet seriously about anything so "hard yinglet theocracy" didnt appear to me.
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>>156121141
The yinglet elders either have knowledge or traditions about the antiquities that we the readers don't, or else like Viracroix they just know they have potentially game-changing powers. We know at least one seemingly worthless item was effectively magic. They therefore made it a priority to find them and bring them to the central enclaves. Because a typical enclave would leak intel like a sieve, they naturally don't tell the regular matriarchs and scavengers why they're doing it or what they're looking for, but they made it such an important enough duty to send all artefacts to the heartland that Viz's predecessor emphasised it to her from her death bed.

Vizlet, from ignorance or arrogance, traded potentially priceless objects away to a foreign power without telling the central enclaves what she was doing, in direct disobedience of their instructions. When they discovered this they took away her scavenging authority and assigned someone trustworthy to take it over and to keep an eye on her. Perfectly reasonable as far as that goes. The additional punishments were presumably for defying the social order.
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>>156122361
>i just cant take yinglet seriously about anything so "hard yinglet theocracy" didnt appear to me.
Brakka had a very real fear of being tortured to death if he was caught, they aren't loony tunes characters.
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>>156122444
They can be both
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>>156117562
I want to give it a smooch
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>>156122444
Instead, he's lying brain-damaged in the interspecies fetish funhouse.

I'm glad Val dialed it back a bit after that.
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>>156125080
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>>156113497
Interesting, so Narklet is a stand in. I wonder if he represents that particular elder directly.
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>>156126723
Or IS that elder after a go through the zhazhingamajig, as the fan theory goes.
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>>156117733
I don't usually post in these thread but one thing that I remember taking me out of this was how I always thought this specifically was a terribly written interaction.
Whoever writes this comic (I forget the name) is trying to give the idea that the trademaster is a ruthless mastermind that rules the town with an iron fist and has eyes and ears everywhere, and then he just killed the dude.
This is how people who haven't seen gestapo politics think these things are handled. It's naive at best and outright stupid at worst, because he's trying to make the man look like a vetinari-esque character and his solution is "lol, just put a blanket on him to kill him mid-speech to show he's business"

If anything, this made me undermine viracroix because now I know the dude just doesn't know how to write someone that would actually be able to scheme anything to get out of a wet paper bag, but that's the writer's fault more than the character. It's a shame.
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>>156127254
He's clearly a delusional lefties and the only thing keeping the comic interesting is that he's also autistic enough to follow the premises through to their conclusions.
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>>156127254
Still more competent than what we currently have.
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>>156127385
It's a technically subtle (compared to his other works) fetish comic that's churning in the back that doesn't require me to put any particular interest or effort in that hasn't really gotten bad that might be interesting down the line with. That's still an achievement by webcomics standards. And some of the lore is fairly interesting.
I'm mostly farming it for reaction images but it's a fairly enjoyable read.
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>>156127254
That seems like a misread of the Trademaster to me. He's ruthless, certainly, but he's also highly curious and values the freedom of the people of his city. My impression of this scene is that he's not kidnapping this guy in a particularly clandestine manner. He's got him tied up in a basement because he wants to question him. Maybe the guy was threatened or coerced, indicating a bigger problem than simple greed on the part of one person. If the guy wasn't actually at fault, its possible that normal 'due process' (if that even exists in Val Salia) would be compromised, thus grabbing the guy out of the blue is a more effective strategy to prevent intervention by other parties. Once the guy fully shows his hand though, Viracroix just has him killed because there is no further value in the interaction. He's cheeky about it, but that's totally consistent with the trademaster's personality in other interactions we've seen. Maybe a public execution would've been more effective to get the point across, but it probably doesn't matter to other politicians. He's committed a crime worth of the death penalty, thus the penalty is handed out and Viracroix gets on with the rest of his day.
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>>156127487
>That seems like a misread of the Trademaster to me
No, blud just genuinely wrote him like shit. But that's fine, I've got other webcomics for political intrigue and not everyone can write super serious characters with complex motives and backstories for their fetish comic.
I've got a backup for that.
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>>156127448
I'm just here to see if Lopin gets a good ending at this point. This poor guy is the ultimate victim of the fucked up enclave system. he just wants to wear fancy clothes and support himself but he gets caught up in all this conspiracy bullshit and beaten and exiled and ends up in indentured servitude snd he's literally just happy to have the privilege of being near a female because he's been trained to worship them.
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>>156127507
>No, blud just genuinely wrote him like shit
I disagree.
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>>156127572
That's fair, I'm pretty sure you're not hitler.
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>>156113497
as much as Vizlet wants to remain a part of the wider Yinglet civilization, I do suspect eventually she and the Val Salia Enclave are going to have to break free of the Elders control if they're to have any real chance of achieving her goals, obviously this will stir up a lot of shit though
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>>156127507
You are saying that he's something that he demonstrably isn't. That's not bad writing, that's bad reading on your part. I'm not saying he's the peak of political intrigue or anything, but his character and actions are internally consistent with the world as presented.
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>>156127746
That's fair.
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>>156127254
The guy traded away the life's blood of the city, without permission, and has just shown a willingness to go full Kodos on the populace. Reasonable discussion is at an end. Your read of this as the trademaster being a tyrannical despot is...interesting, to say the least.
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>>156127254
I'm not quite sure what the complaint is - is it that he's a badly written character or that he's bad at politics? There's a case for either, but the comparison to the gestapo is throwing me off since he's clearly based on Lorenzo the Magnificent not Heinrich Himmler and since the gestapo were shit at politics.
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>>156127668
Gonna need to fight to declare independent. Yinglets by themselves couldn't beat val salia if they ally with the enclave I don't think, but the question is what other allies the central enclaves have, what antiquities that might shift the balance?
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>>156127254
Making people quietly dissappear is literally the number one way leaders become feared.
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>>156128310
>Yinglets by themselves couldn't beat val salia if they ally with the enclave
What makes it in Val Salia's interests to fight? It sounds like a choice between endless guerilla rat-raids vs. leading armies into the poison swamp to try to wipe out a species notoriously good at running away, on behalf of an out-of-power isolated exile enclave of primitive tribals.
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>>156128396
He's clearly trying to be venerated not feared.

>>156127839
He traded away some of the strategic reserves, a small portion of an excessive surplus. His reasoning was sound, even if his methods were illegitimate. This is maybe grounds for demotion, termination or some kind of civil reprimand, not being kidnapped and executed in a dungeon. Viracroix is the unreasonable one here.
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>>156115795
Nice.
I would add they are quarrelsome but quick to be put back in place.
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>>156127668
So if they break free, then do they become out-of-placers?
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>>156128440
Vizlet is probably gonna get exiled too, I'm guessing.
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>>156128423
>This is maybe grounds for demotion, termination or some kind of civil reprimand
In a modern democracy, embezzling from the government gets you sent to prison.
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>>156127839
Viracroix is a tyrannical despot, but any good despot knows that you can't get by on tyranny alone, you need to remain popular with the masses. And if it takes lopping a few heads off to ensure that nothing threatens that popularity, well, that's just part of the job.
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>>156128423
What these people don't understand is that I was objecting both to the method of termination (theatrical for the sake of theatrics in a literal dungeon with the only audience being the man who is going to die, which makes it ridiculous) and the termination itself, yes.
It's just silly, but it's the understandable level of silly that someone who doesn't exactly know how to write a character like this would fall into.
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>>156128490
It wasn't embezzlement though, he didn't take the profits for himself he just tried to improve the economy of the city.
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>>156128423
>He's clearly trying to be venerated not feared.
Contrary to popular belief these aren't mutually exclusive things.
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>>156128512
That guy sucked at being venerated, though.
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>>156128406
I imagine Vizlet making public the Elder's pursuit of antiquities would be sufficient Casus Belli for a hypothetical conflict against the Elders, after all I imagine the various powers that be among human civilization already distrust each other acquiring them, now think how they'd all react to finding out the Scavs are secretly hoarding the things
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>>156128551
We don't know the wider political landscape of the region other than Kass homeland was involved in a war. There is no reason to thin there are hostile neighbour's chomping at the bit to conquer the city.
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>>156128423
>He traded away some of the strategic reserves, a small portion of an excessive surplus. His reasoning was sound, even if his methods were illegitimate.
I think you are missing the important point, there.

And the important point is: the very reason it's been a very long time that the city hasn't been besieged IS because that reserve exist. Word would go out that the reserve has been diminished and some neighbour powers who initially thought a siege wouldn't be worth it might suddenly be inclined to a different opinion.

All there was to figure for Lacroix was if that guy was either a traitor who did it precisely with that intent, or if it was solely for money. And once he figured he was just stupid-greedy the Trademaster concluded the guy was just too stupid to understand that simple concept and thus there was no point in debating with him any longer.
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>>156128423
>>156128494
You guys seem very confused
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>>156128551
if every reasonable, minor infraction is dealt with death in a dungeon instead of public shaming then we have to agree that the trademaster is, as a matter of fact, both genuinely stupid and not thinking ahead. Which is what the author is trying to hammer into the narrative.
I cannot stress enough how this is just monumentally stupid from a common sense level. You're actively fighting what you're preaching.
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>>156128581
>We don't know the wider political landscape
We know the city has been besieged before. And the Trademaster most likely know it. Omarhan probably should to, but chose to ignore it for a quick profit.
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>>156128602
>if every reasonable, minor infraction is dealt with death
The point was precisely that it wasn't minor.
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>>156128561
He's well regarded by many, even today
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>>156128606
Could be a hundred years ago for all we know. City states sometimes go to war, but extended periods of peace also happened.
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>>156128509
Embezzling funds to redirect to your own department's budget is still a criminal offence even if you think it's for a good cause. In this case he specifically says he sold off the grain to benefit the elite, of whom he's a member, and not for any philanthropic reason.
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>>156128619
No, not really.
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>>156128617
It was. Viracroix has some obsession with maintaining 200% surplus and this guy probably dropped it to 190% for a legitimate benefit and that's instant death? Naw.
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>>156128602
Historically speaking public shaming and exacution is generally reserved for periods of upheaval, public enemies, and popular individuals.
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>>156128625
>Could be a hundred years ago for all we know.
Again, you seem to miss the essential point: There hasn't been a siege for so long PRECISELY because of that strategic reserve.

Its existence is a deterrent in itself
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>>156128617
It's a completely recoverable, temporary and incredibly minor. He is not even embezzling. Abd they both know it. The only reason the trademaster is angry is because he supposedly knows something the common trader does not know.

You know what happens if you make someone "disappear" when it does something like this?
It happens again.
Because that is a perfectly reasonable thing to do and you're not telephoning the fact to everyone else in the community that might do that.
Nevermind the fact you're removing a semi-important merchant in a trading town out on a whim.

God, how are you people this dense? Are you trying to defend the objectively bad writing for some kind of personal reason? Because much like veracroix, your actions make no sense.
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>>156128643
>It was.
again >>156128582
>the very reason it's been a very long time that the city hasn't been besieged IS because that reserve exist. Word would go out that the reserve has been diminished and some neighbour powers who initially thought a siege wouldn't be worth it might suddenly be inclined to a different opinion.
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>>156128655
>It's a completely recoverable, temporary and incredibly minor.
Again, see >>156128582
>the very reason it's been a very long time that the city hasn't been besieged IS because that reserve exist. Word would go out that the reserve has been diminished and some neighbour powers who initially thought a siege wouldn't be worth it might suddenly be inclined to a different opinion.
He basically put at risk the whole city when there is up north a nation actively invading other regions for their resources.
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>>156128643
>Viracroix has some obsession with maintaining 10,000% surplus and this guy only sold three grains to pay the medical bills for his sick grandmother
Wow, Viracroix is a dick.
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>>156128668
>>156128658
>"my source is I made it the fuck up"
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>>156128648
Again, there is no reason to believe there are hostile neighbour's chomping at the bit to conquer the city, and if there was a reserve in and of itself would not be a deterrent. He's probably just being autistic about readiness.
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>>156128634
Yes really
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>>156128678
My source is the comic itself, anon.

and also, I don't think you understand how a deterrent works.
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>>156128694
>Again, there is no reason to believe there are hostile neighbour
Do you understand what a deterrent is, anon?

Also, there is literally up north a nation that invaded an other one for its iron.
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>>156128698
That's fear, anon. Not veneration.
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>>156128655
>>156128655
>It's a completely recoverable, temporary and incredibly minor. He is not even embezzling.
What's with the headcanon?

Stealing from the emergency supplies because there's no emergency going so they're just lying around is definitely something people do a lot, so I agree this execution should have been public.
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>>156128655
>It's a completely recoverable, temporary and incredibly minor. He is not even embezzling. Abd they both know it. The only reason the trademaster is angry is because he supposedly knows something the common trader does not know.
He's angry because this isn't a government, it's his company. It's not just whst he did it's how he did it. His employee did something wrong, knowing it was wrong, and thought he could weasel his way out of facing consequences because it was something so minor.
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>>156128703
That's fair. I spoke my piece and only joined the conversation because someone else joined in. Personally I think you are making up things that have no explanation in the comic, overt or not, with no further explanation and out of your own pocket. Do I think that's a problem?Not really. Do I need to convince you? You certainly seem so. Have I been convinced by any of the people trying to argue against it based on vibes or will I continue to think the character is just kind of written by an amateur? It's most certainly the latter, but thank you for bringing your point of view into the discussion.
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>>156128777
>Personally I think you are making up things that have no explanation in the comic, overt or not
They have a whole section about how to handle sieges and actual history of invaders temporary taking over the city.

It's definitely not out of my pocket.
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>>156128723
Anon, there are active politicians in Spain right now who have openly voiced their respect for Franco and haven't been immediately deplatformed or arrested. He's still credited for modernizing Spain and by all accounts I've seen had sway over the general population.
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>>156128848
>there are active politicians in Spain right now who have openly voiced their respect for Franco
And Trump has given respect to Putin and Kim Jong Hun. This is meaningless. Franco remains the darkest era of Spain's modern history.
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>>156128561
>>156128634
This may come as a shock to you but Putin, dispite everything, is still held in high regard by a lot of Russians purely because he boosted the economy within their lifetimes. Someone as successful as Franco absolutely still has his fans in modern Spain.
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>>156128848
>>156128893
Dudes, there were no good guys in the Spanish Civil War. Both the Nationalists and the Republicans committed atrocities. The only question is who remained in power to write the history books.
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>>156127254
>because he's trying to make the man look like a vetinari-esque character and his solution is "lol, just put a blanket on him to kill him mid-speech to show he's business"
i mean, it's still a funny comic at the end of the day

>vetinari-esque character
i'd honestly drop the -esque.
it's pretty much how vetrinari handles things, except usually he gives the bugger a heads up.
and by heads up i mean "your are now indentured to me for life or you can be free for the rest of your life, which i would estimate to be about 2 minutes"
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>>156128945
>im 13
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>>156128925
that speaks more of people's ignorance more than anything.
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>>156128945
I'm not even supporting Franco I'm just pointing out how notable it is for a fascist dictator to still have any kind of public support in western europe.
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>>156128945
>Dudes, there were no good guys in the Spanish Civil War
There was clearly a villain.
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>>156128925
>but Putin, dispite everything, is still held in high regard by a lot of Russians
No, not really.
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>>156129012
I'm guessing it's mostly for the part of the population that lives at the ground floor.
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>>156128985
Are you fucking with me right now? Or are you so dense that you can't understand that people can overlook a LOT of dead bodies, if it means life gets better for them?
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>>156128990
It's notable but not surprising. One of the reasons Francoism is often distinguished from fascism is the lack of an obsession with war, which meant it didn't violently destroy itself, which in turn gave it the benefit of decades of entrenched propaganda a la communist dictatorships, and since it dissolved bloodlessly there were no ideological purge either.
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>>156129055
>>156128985
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>>156129012
Yes really
>>156129066
Okay so you are just baiting
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>>156129253
>Yes really
No. Not really. It's well understood that the reason everything suck is because of him. Saying some Russian still hold him in high regard is as relevant as saying some American still hold Trump in high regard.

That other anon is right, only stupid anons are still getting fooled. That's no relevant and doesn't change the fact Franco had to rely on fear to rule.
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>>156129294
>Saying some Russian still hold him in high regard is as relevant as saying some American still hold Trump in high regard.
how_do_we_tell_him.jpg
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>>156129525
How do I tell you?
Trump has become the least popular president in history.

Keeping telling me that a bunch of moron still kiss whatever he use to whip his ass doesn't mean he is actually venerated.
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>>156129561
venerated and holding in regard aren't the same thing and yes, even "least in history" means literal millions of people still love him
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>>156129575
>venerated and holding in regard aren't the same thing
Doesn't make a difference. A bunch of moron doesn't make you either.
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>>156129587
Anon just stop
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>>156129613
No, you.

"but some fools still think he is great" has never been a argument.
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>>156129613
By your definition, there is no such thing as an non-venerated leader, which make that kind of quantification pointless.
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>>156129654
I never said putin was venerated, Franco on the other hand absolutely is by many who lived through his rule. It took over 40 years for them to finally stop memorializing his corpse.
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>>156129613
It's pretty interesting to see how a lot of people posting in the tf fetish comic thread can be a lot more braindead than expected
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>>156129733
That's still the result of fear, not actual veneration.
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>>156129833
........what?
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>>156129866
Fear isn't veneration.
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>>156129892
They were so afraid they left his corpse as a public monument from 1975 to 2019?
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>>156129912
Zombies are a big problem in Spain, pls understand
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>>156127254
>This is how people who haven't seen gestapo politics think these things are handled.
I don't think the realism of the interaction is that important for this page
What it does accomplish in telling the reader:
>tradesmaster has very long term plans
>the citystate is more liberal ("liberal" as in doesn't have slaves) than most in this world
>Tradesmaster IS DANGEROUS, something that hasn't really been seen on-panel before
>page has a punchline, *almost* working as a standalone comic
It's either a conversation lore dump, or another field guide lore dump
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>>156129912
From the beginning that burial location was contested because it was only meant for those who died during the civil war (which he didn't).

The slow speed at which the government act doesn't change that he rulled through fear and violence and the mass graves are hold in his responsibility.
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>>156129912
>>156129833
>>156129733
Franco's corpse was left in the memorial as part of the general agreement in post-Francoist Spain to stop fucking arguing about Franco, maybe you guys could follow their lead.
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>>156130029
Hated dictators generally don't get to rest in peace regardless of location.
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>>156129975
I was born in 1982.

Even in my teenage years, Franco was known as a fascists and mass graves were a known thing.
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>>156130043
>to stop fucking arguing about Franco, maybe you guys could follow their lead
And then Spain finally recognised the crimes of Franco and put an end on remaining silent about it. Maybe you could follow that lead?

>>156130055
From the beginning there were requests to remove his body. He never rested in peace.
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>>156128423
As stated, there's a good reason for the surplus and the mook trying to justify his actions in itself isn't helping his case, much less the trend of that line of thought. Viracroix essentially nipped a war profiteer or worse in the bud. One could make comparisons with similar cases from ancient Egypt though these generally handled above board.but where state resources were concerned, it was anything but trivial.

Granted I would Have to go back through the earlier parts of OOPS for more context. on V's behaviour but he seems at a glance to have a better grasp of how the small cogs run the machine than his subordinates..

>>156128492
Tyrants don't usually give two shits about their image, though there might some bread and circuses to distract from the obvious chicanery. The trademaster is running a tight ship but he isn't giving with one hand and taking with the other so far as I can see.
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>>156130105
>Maybe you could speak up about the crimes of Francisco Franco?
Was he a yinglet? What was his policy on out-of-place antiquities?
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>>156130151
He ate them.
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>>156121163
We’ve had the soft reveal that this world was once some kind of space age colony before the human populace declined into their current state, and the other races are aliens, since basically the start of the comic
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>>156130043
Okay I'll stop, this is getting out of hand
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>>156127507
Unsounded where the biggest scheme on the story depended on Lemuel the guy smart enough to tame a flying beast and become captain of the guard as a soud being so fucking retarded he didnt realize he was the least likely target for a falseflag and unironically believed a black tongue who told him he was going to meet god

or literally right now with sette and jivi breaking into a "high sec" facility with the cresce queen inside because they dont even pat down visitors

i can go on. dont glaze cope my nigga
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>>156130139
Tyrants are usually occupied by little else.
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The defensive cultists who can't take even the slightest legitimate criticism of this comic need to go to reddit or discord or whatever shithole you came from.
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>>156130343
>The defensive cultists who can't take even the slightest legitimate criticism
Concerning the discussion about the comic itself, I found the conversation and exchanges of opinions were civil enough, so I am not sure where you are coming from.
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>>156130406
There's a very vocal segment here who always have a response or a Justification for why a legitimately criticism is a ggood thing actually, it's cultists behaviour. Just because you aren't screaming about it doesn't make it any less annoying. Just admit that not everything about a random furfag webcomic is 1000% perfect and amazing sometimes.
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>>156130483
>There's a very vocal segment here who always have a response or a Justification for why a legitimately criticism is a ggood thing actually
wat?
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>>156130483
>Just because you aren't screaming about it doesn't make it any less annoying
It's okay to express disagreement, you know?
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>>156130483
There are definitely legitimately criticisms of this comic. Especially in regards to pacing. But something like >>156127254 is pretty weak and worthy of pushback.
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>>156130519
Nah, the political intrigue is pretty poor.
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>>156130483
>There's a very vocal segment
(Anons)
>have a response
(who disagree with me)
>it's cultists behaviour
(are cultists)

I don't think Viracroix is very well-written either but maybe you should take a break.
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I agree with the people who agree with me.
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>>156130583
And I mostly agree with that, because we don't even know what the intrigue is yet. That's not what people are debating here.
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>>156130675
I don't
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>>156130731
No, I'm pretty dang sure that is what we were debating.
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All the political intrigue in this comic so far has been yinglet-centred, and one baxxid fake out. I doubt we're going to see any intrahuman politics.
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>>156130856
There is a Baxxid who would like some intrahuman action, though.
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>>156130483
>There's a very vocal segment here who always have a response or a Justification for why a legitimately criticism is a ggood thing actually, it's cultists behaviour.
ngl you are missing me here

this is a semi hard fi comic where the main point of engagement is speculation on biology and hints of worldbuilding. people just like to theorycraft when they are not too busy furgooning.
Given the nature of the setting, all kinds of possibilities are open.
The attitude you are expecting simply isn't there. Nobody has any pretense for what this comic is besides "that skyrim TF comic guy's slightly more serious project"

As for the Viracroix scene, I think people are misunderstanding a simple execution played for laughs with a scheme. Hard fi as it is, OOPs will always be comedy first, story second.
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>>156131130
>I think people are misunderstanding a simple execution played for laughs with a scheme
That too.
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I like OOPs but the plot in this comic is being dealt out so slowly.
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>>156130378
No counter argument huh?
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>>156130378
Is that Krystal from Star Fox Adventure?
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>>156131130
You're doing it again.

>>156130649
>just take a break
Back to where you came from..
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>>156131700
not the anon, but doing what?
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>>156131700
>You're doing it again.
I'm not defending anything dummy. I'm saying You are crashing a party then complaining it isn't a literature club.

These threads are basically half waifuposting half AO3 idea guys feeding off the spec bio elements Valsalia dabbles in. The comic doesn't intent to be a deep story and people don't post itt expecting that.

Just for the record: Are you >>156127507 and did you spent a whole month in Unsounded threads seething about losing an argument defending a bad transition panel? I find this exchange unsettlingly familiar.

>>156132172
That you, /pol/ yingfag? I was wondering if you knew these threads got allowed back on /co/
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>>156130880
Yeah.
Every single one of them.
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>>156113497
I do not like the implications here, especially since Vizlet doesn't mention them taking the kids.
This is not a good place.
>>156117098
>Mistress Vizlet was just explaining to me why certain items are no longer in circulation, zhank you Mistress Vizlet, I will impress upon him the seriousness of the situation and advise him accordingly.
EZ.
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>>156132862
Do note the floof poof on said kid's tail.
They probably got to keep all of their useless male runts.
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>>156132862
It's been heavily implied that the central enclaves use females as a means of controlling the subordinate enclaves.
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>>156128423
>even if his methods were illegitimate.
Are they doe?

What's worse for the family/house: Being (presumably) warned by Viracroix of the problem and allowed to pass off the murder as an accident/unfortunate natural death, or facing the public scandal of one of their own being known for going against the ruling house and endangering the city?

Some circles would just call this "politics"
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>>156128602
>minor infraction
Stealing and selling the "OH SHIT WE'RE UNDER SIEGE!" food is not a minor infraction, bud. It's major. It's severe. It's risking a famine during a siege, when there was an invasion a Wagon ride away. It is a Decisive Strategic Tang Victory waiting to happen. Do you want to be pressuredninto feeding someone your hypothetical girlfriend? That was what my man was risking. I'm talking about cannibalism. Not cunninlingus.
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>yinglets are actually an hyperadvaced species that decided to go nuke their technology, turn themselves into dumb rats and become the mega amish
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>>156135412
>yinglets are actually an hyperadvaced species
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>>156127254
>pic
Wait, Lopin can read?
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>>156137429
Kass is reading to him.
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>>156133118
>>156133379
Christ on a Unicycle.
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>>156139178
It makes sense, its the obvious weak point for any enclave. Problem enclaves get a soft cap on their population growth while loyal ones can be given new females as an incentive all while ensuring none get too big. Plus it makes a perfect shit test for potential troublemakers
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>>156139535
Except that's not really the case here. Because there are females in the Enclave. Why would they let her have Lippie and the other girls?
...
Oh fuck.
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>>156140007
What? I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. We already knew that "excess" females get shipped out and redistributed, but this page implies that the enclaves current population of ying women may be lower than normal as a form of punishment.
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>>156127254
You could definitely get away with offing people in the 1800s this way.
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>>156134798
I wonder how many foid readers identify with Kass only because he's now female.
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>>156132214
You are literally so deep in the cult that you are hallucinating things right now.

>>156133427
>>156133545
You just can't let go can't you. Always an answer, always a rebuttal, always making noise. It's like talking to a jehovas witness. Just admit that that page is a completely failed attempt to show cunning.
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>>156141613
>You are literally so deep in the cult that you are hallucinating things right now.
What is he hallucinating exactly, there?

>>156141613
>always a rebutta
How is that in itself a problem? Why do you have issue with people providing reasons for disagreeing Like, I would understand your complain if they just said "you are wrong" and refused to explain why, but here you are specifically complaining that people base their disagreement on actual basis.

Why would that be a problem?
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>>156141796
It's a problem when it's compulsive and unreasonable, and this happens every single thread with this comic. Every criticism no matter how minor triggers these people into defense mode, they never budge on anything. It's a cultists response. Exactly like talking to star citizen backers or not grifters. It's fucking exhausting. I'm sure there's some subheadings or discord where that's normal, and they should go back there.
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>>156141894
>It's a problem when it's compulsive and unreasonable,
How is it unreasonable. All I am getting from you is that you are getting upset that people happens to disagree with you.

>Every criticism no matter how minor triggers these people
giving a reasonable counter-argumnent is not "being tirggered.

It's like you don't like normal conversations.
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>>156141931
You're doing it again. Go back.
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>>156141937
Doing what?

Frankly, the more you post, the more you come out as "no one is allowed to disagree with me".

Doesn't really look like the cultist behavior is on those you complain about, there.
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>>156127254
>>156128423
Dunno, man, I thought that it was pretty obvious what the real point was in establishing that scene, that Viacroix isn’t the softy uwu muffin man he got introduced as and tries to project an image of to others. Like from the start it was obvious he and that merchant were having two different conversations. The first one being the merchant was trying to justify his embezzlement with capitalism and classism, which is the part that would have gotten him merely fired or tossed in jail. The second, and more important, convo he didn’t pick up on was that he basically stole from his boss who sees the city as more or less his property even if he dresses it up as “fulfilling promises”, and the merchant’s words made it clear he was too stupid to realize he basically insulted his boss by stealing his shit, selling it off, and thinking that saying “I did it for me, er you” was the right move instead of just assured he was a liability.

In other words, the dude was dead before he got there, Viacroix just wanted to flex on him before executing him mafia-style. No, it’s not the most ultra pragmatic, but it makes sense for a guy who treats his city as his playground even if he wants to think of himself as magnanimous, which the comic clearly wants to establish.
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>>156141581
Despite (and partly because of) his flaws, Kass is pretty easy to like.
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>>156142079
The thing that actually got the guy geeked was the offhand classism. Whole vibe of the conversation was heading to a less severe punishment until he said "You of all people should know we're just better than your citizens"
Which suggests that's sort of mindset is something he's been dealing with a long time,ong enough to not care about trying to change minds.
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>>156143622
He had his cloth boy and executioner all ready to go without so much as an explicit command, he was just monologuing before the kill.
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>>156143734
>"Now: I'm going to give this guy one final, tenuous chance. But I'm pretty fekking fed up with his ways already, so if he starts talking about how he is "better" and his trading opportunity was more important than the populace and their safety, go ahead and throw the splatter sheet over me and just whack 'im."
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>>156144782
The juice obviously has something from an antiquity mixed in
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>>156127254
>>156128494
>>156133545
>>156142079


-See the thread's reply count has absolutely exploded
-Investigate
-It's turned into a heated discussion of the Spanish Civil War :V


Honestly pretty much all the takes I'm reading here about Viracroix are pretty valid, extrapolating from what's shown on that page! It was indeed a pretty unusual/non-optimal way for V to deal with the situation in that way, and that was the intention when I wrote it.

Here's a spoiler that isn't really anything that spoils important plot points; I was going to leave it as something that would stand out to someone on a 2nd readthrough after this part of his character had been elaborated on:

V was absolutely planning on just scaring the guy into compliance, letting him off with a warning. But in panel 6, Omarhan committed the grave unforgivable sin of comparing Viracroix to his father.

Which is like, "Everyone knows you don't do that." "Do not bring up the balding king's receding hairline." "Do not mention the 4 foot despot's height."

Until that part of his character arc gets revealed though, I was intending this page to leave readers with a handful of potential impressions, like he's impulsively dangerous sometimes, he really really doesn't like nobles talking about the citizenry having less value than themselves, he's kind of a mob boss sort of ruler, or whatever else a reader might decide to glean from this interaction.

For now though, I'd like readers to just be wondering exactly what's going on in this guy's head.
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>>156145226
oh
a'ght
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>>156144812
Not necessarily. Penicillin comes from mould. There could be some weird alien symbiotic microbe out there that nobody's rediscovered because they're not eating the right poisonous swamp plants, rotten corpses, or animal droppings.
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>>156145226
Thank you for the elaboration, Val.

Remind me in 30 years when we get to this part of Viracroix's arc.
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>>156145435
YEAH PRETTY MUCH
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>>156145226
>me reading this post without being aware the poster isn't an anon
"why the fuck is he yapping like that?"

Anyway, it's nice of you to have shown us a bit what was going on behind the curtain.

>Omarhan committed the grave unforgivable sin of comparing Viracroix to his father.
Funny how, for all the speculations about his motivations and reason, it can end up being the simplest thing.

Looks like Omarhan should have taken some diplomatic lesson from the Baxxids, before bringing up the matters of Viracroix's affiliations. Like "First, be sure you talk from a better position of power than your current one".
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>>156145226
Oh hey val!
>in panel 6, Omarhan committed the grave unforgivable sin of comparing Viracroix to his father.
Interesting
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>>156145784
>>156145435
I for one am looking forward to reading updates in the old folks home with my theoretical future family when they come to vist.
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>>156145784
yamanaka-factor-modifying medications will mean that death isn't coming to save you from finishing this comic
you will be healthy at age 120 and working on page whatever-thousand
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>>156146211
Not if I get there first!
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>>156145226
Will the dead dude's family take it personal?
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>>156145226
>I'd like readers to just be wondering exactly what's going on in this guy's head.
I know what's going in Omarhan's head.
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>>156145226
>wants to show up his dad
>likely wants to show up his great grandpa
The man may have some issues
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>>156145226
>was absolutely planning on just scaring the guy into compliance, letting him off with a warning. But in panel 6, Omarhan committed the grave unforgivable sin of comparing Viracroix to his father.
So we were all wrong and the situation is significantly more tenous than previously believed. Shit.
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>>156145226
This paints kassens current position in a significantly more unstable light
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>>156146913
I can hear this gif
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>>156143440
Foids don't like flawed males.
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>>156148176
Cute but yings don't really have shoulders do they?
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>>156153298
Then why do I see so many of them dating complete dorks?
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>>156153318
Foids don't like the people they date.
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>>156148176
Gorgeous.
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>>156153416
To be fair, you do'nt seem like you would like to date anyone either.
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>>156153471
I'm just saying it seems like there's probably female readers who wouldn't care about kass if he wasn't female.
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>>156153479
Well, just like there are male readers who only care about male characters.
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>>156153495
Like who? Everyone likes vizlet, lippie and isher. Foid post.
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>>156153662
>Like who?
We are all anonymous, anon. But I think there is a reoccurring poster in those threads who only care about Lopin.
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>>156153676
Yeah that's me. He's a good boy in a universe populated by assholes.
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A normal vizlet
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>>156154877
Go away!
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>>156154971
I do not believe this vizlet is capable of movement while being observed
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>>156141581
>>156153298
>>156153416
>>156153662
>apropos of nothing
Is it just me or were there fewer mouthbreathers in the /trash/ threads? Not counting coomers, I mean.
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>>156154877
Beautiful
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>>156154989
She's not a damn weeping angel.
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>>156128423
>His reasoning was sound, even if his methods were illegitimate
He lost any benefit of the doubt when he started going off about only commoners starving and being willing to sacrifice their lives to make a quick buck. Once V̶e̶t̶i̶n̶a̶r̶i̶ Viracroix realized that this guy was willing to let his people die for profit, leaving him alive was off the table.
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>>156145226
Don't listen to this obvious imposter. I'm the real Val
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>>156158091
Well, are you going to give us the Word of God explanation for Viracroix's actions or not?
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>>156154877
There's a bound and gagged Yinglet in that thing, isn't there?
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>>156158395
Or, Isher.



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