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Coming Back Edition

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>>156129190
The last thread died while I was fucking my husband in our matching guitarspear bff shirts and necklaces Smh were I not too full of cum it could have been saved
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>>156129190
Why remove the Google doc from the OP?
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>”It’s time for the Victory Orgy Race, extended! You know the rules already, so shut up and start your engines!”, the announcer Octavia roared in her British accent. Fitting for a Goetia who had “gone native”, she was clad in a mixture if dark brown and intense red with some black trim. A long time among Wrath Imps had resulted in her heavily assimilated into that society. She picked up a wine bottle and smashed it, signaling the start. The crowd roared.
>Adam spoke to Lute in the two-seater. “This is it! FLOOR IT!”
>Blitzo sorrowfully watched, still haunted by his attempted (albeit coerced) assassination attempt on Lucifer.
>As the cars raced forward, Carmila tossed a grenade at Adam. It missed his car, barely. She was just adjacent to him. Adam veered hard, their vehicles fighting for position.
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>>156129423

>Octavia continued announcing, “Rooster is the lead but Dennis and Odette are close behind! Adam is in 5th but losing speed fast!”
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>>156129423
How are they going to fuck while driving? I think you can lose your licence for that?
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>>156129272
Are you for real? If so based.
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>>156130000
Real. And I suspect the reason those necklaces are the only thing from the drop that sold out is that others around the world are doing the same thing at this very moment
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Apparently Adam's moans in Gravity were horny coded. I wonder if Lute/Eve's mind literally adapted them perfectly from a memory of having fun times with Adam. Like they're one to one recreations.
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Happy Halloween!
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>>156130550
Pirate
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>>156130550
Happy Halloween Screencapsis! Go get that candy!
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>>156130314
His moans were horny and according to the Blu-ray commentary, she thinks of him as her husband

But yeah sure guys. Totally not Eve.
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What kind of candy are (You) going to give them?
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>>156130314
i swear we knew this months ago, like when the music guys were doing interviews with people like danny motta. has the rest of the fanbase finally woken up to lute desiring adam carnally instead of insisting she was grinding on his stomach as a friend/daughter figure?
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I hate that with ao3 down, I can't read most of Adam fics
>>156129365
There was a google doc? I just saw twitter link and didn't think it was something important when making the thread.
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>>156130702
Yeah but it's incredibly funny/insane to me that during her big revenge song she perfectly remembered and had her mind replay his moans from when she probably rode him back when they were alive.
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>>156130726
Snickers.
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>>156130742
Yes, it's the link to Looty's Google doc with all the transcripts about Lute. It's kind of the bible for the Lute=Eve theory.
https://x.com/lutesaurus/status/2097058277192528194
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>Guitarqueen shipper tries to stifle the truth about Lute being Eve
It all makes sense
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>>156130808
Huh, I will remember it for the next time.
>>156130823
I have you know I ship all straight ships!
GuitarSpear, GuitarQueen, GuitarPrincess, you name it.
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>>156130852
Taking it out for your ship agenda is lame dude. Don't you check?
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>>156130742
>I just saw twitter link and didn't think it was something important when making the thread.
What, did you think they put it in there just for decoration? You didn't even bother to see what it was?
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I think if you try to post here without reading all 50 pages of transcripts you should crumble to ash
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>>156130876
Oh if it was for my shipping agenda, you would know. And nope, I just checked if there was a thread and since there wasn't, I just copied what I always copied and posted.

>>156130891
Yes and yes. This board isn't a general board and normally OPs are full of garbage. I don't click links without knowing exactly what I am clicking.
>>156130891
Yes and yes~
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>>156131088
As penance you have to read it all now
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>>156130823
>>156130876
No GuitarQueen fan would do that. The abused forgotten have no interest in fighting others.
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>>156131163
We should abuse them more to keep them down.
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>>156131179
They have received enough beatings. Some of them very undeserved. Have mercy.
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Guitarqueen it's such a dog shit on all fronts. Adam and Charlie had more chemistry.
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>>156131230
>The ship with two characters that haven't interacted onscreen once.
>The ship with two characters who interacted.

You can't really compare the two. If that anon was right we'll see Adam and Lilith talking in a flashback S3 so save it until then.
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>>156129874

Oh it’s as gloriously anarchic as you fear.
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They need to feed us some updates soon or we're gonna go crazy
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>>156131649
We're supposedly getting news on November 7th. I don't know if it's actual news or merch or something trivial
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>>156131663
Roblox collaboration
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>>156131679
Based
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>>156131705
Pics that go hard
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>Adam moans
Where???
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>>156132250
When he moans YEAH??? in Gravity
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>>156132276
Probably moaned the same when she was riding him cowgirl.
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>>156132276
Oh. Those are more growls to me.
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>>156132440
They could be horny moans or horny growls. What's important is they're horny and it's deliberate.
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>>156132494
>>156132440
This is correct, as both Alex Brightman (Adam's voice actor) and Sam Haft (the music composer AND the appointed 'lore guy', meaning he sits down in the writers room and gets to know where the story is headed) have confirmed this to be the case.
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What’s /co/‘s thoughts on Abel? The first soft boy..
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>>156132763
Very cute. Very kissable. I wonder if his dick's as big as his father's?
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>>156132801
Either a normal to large dick or a cute chode
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>>156132763
It's not fair. My produce is just as good as his lamb.
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>>156132801
It's one inch smaller than adam's
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What if Cain is also fat?
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>>156132948
What if he's fatter than Abel?
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Speaking of Cain, who should voice him? I’m betting on Gerard Way
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>>156130726
The cheap 500 pieces for 20 bucks candy
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>>156130726
Chick Tracts
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>>156132948
What is she feeding them?
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>>156133110
Probably a diet of constant meat. This woman is a hunting machine.
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When and where did Alex Brightman say Adam's "yeahs" in Gravity were horny? I vaguely recall him saying something like that. I know Sam said it.
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My ancestors :)
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>>156133643
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>>156133325
I like to think Eve's the one who 'discovered' you can eat animals after they left Eden.
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>>156134693
>Adam named the animals
>then eventually his wife killed them and fed them to him
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>>156135135
Adam had a special connection to the animals as the guy who named them. Eve has no such qualms. Meat is meat!
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>>156130000
Quads fucking confirm
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>>156136020
one of the most aesthetically appealing things about adam is his shape on every level. he is a human, he is that big dumb bird that we love, cartoony, realistic, adorable, threatening, infinitely squashable and stretchable to suit all needs. and above all else he is a chubby fatty. s-tier.
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>>156136217
Creature
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Adam looks like a beast and usually behaves like a man and Lute looks like a woman and behaves like a feral animal. They complete each other
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>>156132981
Anyone less than Way will be a disappointment.
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>>156129190
>Be me
>work retail tonight (Halloween)
>regular comes in
>normally a tall eccentric goth milf
>tonight dressed up as female Alastor
>but with some bondage gear
>like nothing indecent per se
>but those leather straps and metal rings under the coat but over the shirt have an obviously lewd purpose
>googling: looks like it’s called a Female Chest Harness
>clacky high heels on the tiles
>gently leading around a female Vox cosplayer with a spiky dog collar on a leash
>the woman who I assumed was her daughter
>maybe it still is? I don’t know how freaky this is getting
>I just know it’s not her husband
>they’re coming to the register
>play it cool
>say I like their costumes
>”Alastor” says they’re going to a party later
>they leave

SOMEONE’S having a Happy Halloween tonight.
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>>156131230
You haven't even met Lilith in the show.
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I hope Roo sexually menaces several characters.
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>>156137518
We already know she's a piece of shit.
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>>156137571
So's Adam.
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>>156137942
...and? what does that have to do with anything
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>>156138031
The idea that GuitarQueen has a shitty dynamic. We don't know yet, and Lilith being a piece of shit shouldn't make that automatically so considering Adam is also.
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>>156138104
Don't care. It's crap.
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>>156138132
Sounds like cope.
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>>156140060
Lute looks so weird here.
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Yes, your honor, they did all of it but they had fun.
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>>156141321
They are excused from everything because they had a severe case of biblical postpartum depression.
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>>156141695
Which way First Man?
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>>156141715
You think he has choice? He's just gonna end up an accessory for the first one that puts a leash on him.
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Charlie being Roo's daughter would be kind of a blow to Chadam/guitarprincess shippers because most of them love the idea that she's his exe's daughter. Roo's dognose spawn doesn't have the same effect.
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>>156141695
Less anime version
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>>156141731
Honestly it's something that doesn't bother me. Guitarprincess is kinda meh. I'd say most Charlie ships are boring in general.
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Does anyone have that Viv post where she talks about Roo's vibe as a mashup of 3 songs and one of them is fucking Jungle Boogie by Kool and the Gang?
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>>156141827
Wait a minute. Is ROO BLACK?
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>>156141839
Come on, you know they'd kill Viv if the evil goddess was black
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Roo is going to be high energy and chaotic, trust
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>>156141851
Yeah but just imagine the energy of black Roo. It would be very entertaining.
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>>156141866
It'd be very entertaining and hot but I don't think they're doing it.
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>Lucifer: I took your first wife and fucked the second.
>Adam: I knocked up your daughter.
>Vaggie and Lute, sitting in a chair watching both fight, eating popcorn.
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>>156141981
OOC, Lute would not be able to sit next to Vaggie without putting her in a chokehold
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>>156141990
Literally that one Sam Hyde picture.
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>>156141981
Lute is Eve so if she overheard Lucifer claiming to have fucked her she'd go in for the kill.
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>>156141981
This is literally just the fight of the delusional retards. The Chadam fans Vs Lucichads fans. Thing is both are wrong and these two characters are major losers dragged on a leash by their respective wife. Well Lucifer might upgrade himself to getting dragged on a leash by deer but still.
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>>156142012
A good chunk of Chadam fans are powerscaler types who are obsessed with cucking so they want Adam to fuck Charlie to get back at Lucifer for fucking his wives. It literally all comes back to cucking.
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>>156142025
Lucifer also has powerscalling fans. Like they are also obsessed with cucking because powerscalers are fucking insane. You'll see them mostly larping the show hard.
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>>156141731
but it also means people can't accuse it of being pseudo-incest/'she's practically his niece!' anymore, which is a plus for me but i guess a loss for people into that.

>>156142025
i like sweet girls becoming meaner and mean jerk guys becoming sweeter because they love each other...
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>>156132981
He should be old as hell so he should be voiced by whoever does Geralt in Witcher 3.
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>>156142130
You also like it as a mommy issues thing which is a take so bizarre I have to give it a pass but you're totally the minority
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I just want to see Charlie getting porked by a dude while Vaggie is made to watch, is that a crime?
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>>156142145
specifically charlie has the mommy issues but true.
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>>156142157
Not really a crime but considering how little agency Vaggie has she would probably allow it for Charlie.
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>>156142177
I want Vaggie to show a personality, to be angry for real, to want something, to DO something. For herself! Not for Charlie!
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>>156142157
It all comes back to cucking
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>>156142183
>Not for Charlie!

I'm so sorry anon but there's nothing we can do. The game was rigged from the start.
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>>156142186
Yeah it's kinda cringe. Also is the greentexts just fucked for me? It's red instead of green. I'm on phone.
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>>156142190
God fucking damnit!
>Throws cap to the ground and screams in agony on the avenue.
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>>156142196
It's 4chan's Halloween theme lol
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>>156142208
Oh. But shouldn't it be orange? It looks red.
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>>156142208
>Adam. Simple costume. Pumpkin.
>Lute. Slutty cat. Moderate elaborateness.
Cute display of personalities.
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Could Adam defeat Solaire?
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>>156142567
Probably could but he wouldn't be able to resist that sexy sunman's charm.
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>>156142591
As a vivziepop-endorsed heterosexual man (a rare and powerful beast) he could resist.
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>>156142618
Here's the thing even if you're het Solaire is such a great guy he just convinces you to help him or at least listen to him. He's just that charismatic. Unlike Charlie that has the charisma of a wet fart.
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>>156142662
That begs to question something. Solaire is faith, the man. Faith in himself and his quest. He casts lightning, the power of Gods, a small portion of true sunlight in every bolt. Would that Holy Lightning be able to harm a demon, a sinner?
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>>156131663
Based on what?
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>>156142779
I don't think so. At least not permanently kill them. The miracles of DS3 would probably be considered pagan in origin by Hellaverse rules and wouldn't count as true holy attacks.
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>>156142865
DS*
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>>156142865
Even if true faith was behind them? I wouldn't expect a Lightning Spear to put down naught but the weakest of Sinners, and against Vox or Alastor it might just fry their equipment.
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>>156142908
I mostly think so because you don't seem to require faith to do holy attacks in Hazbin. I'm pretty sure a lighting spear might destroy a sinner but it won't permanently kill them and they will eventually respawn.
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>>156143048
In that case, what must be needed to destroy them permanently, the Great Lightning Spear, the Lightning Stake, the Sunlight Spear?
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>>156129190

This show is highly satanic because it has DEMONS and HOMERSEXUALS
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>>156143101
I don't think anything from the DS universe can permanently destroy them. Maybe lifehunt or the dark hand? Those two seem to drain energy/life/humanity so they might fuck up the respawn process and permanently kill sinners.
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>>156143115
someone got fired from the simpsons for putting a link to homersexual porn in an episode.
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>>156143355
I'm genuinely curious what's his deal. Like he does this super often.
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>>156143381
It's just a ritualposter
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>>156143425
Still curious about his backstory.
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>>156143472
He's doing a bit
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>>156143772
I think I just had a stroke reading this.
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>>156144014
Remember that this is the average Hazbin fan.
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>>156144121
The average Hazbin fan really wants Vaggie to be a predatory transbian? They believe Lute is butch? They want the goat Adam to fuck lesbians and bi women?


I do find it funny Adam is a cis lesbian here but Lucifer the avatar of pooners and the one they usually slap a vag on is excluded from the fun.
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>>156143772
i'm not opposed to giving adam a pussy but i do wonder how he's less straight than niffty. they're not an adamsapple shipper if they don't like lucifer so it can't be that...
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>>156144174
You misunderstand. Adam is a cis butch lesbian with a penis and balls who exclusively fucks women.
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>>156143299
Lifehunt made the gods fear that it could strip away their humanity, and it absolutely could. The Dark Hand would be something that could exclusively target sinners and winners. I wonder how that would play out, a Dark Hand reaching out to swallow the soul?
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>>156144187
i mean nobody said the penis and balls were his, maybe he just likes realistic dildos. otoh adam would get it stuck to the ceiling with the suction cup by mistake.
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>>156144336
You misunderstood the joke.
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>>156144409
do not fear the adamussy
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>>156144477
I think if you got facesat by that you would die.
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>>156144501
man death or being arrested by the british... tough call
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>>156144514
Why the British?
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>>156144552
Facesitting porn was outlawed recently for some dumbfuck reason. But not IRL facesitting. Thank God
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I'm an American. Why should I care what the British law thinks? Fuck em. I might draw Charlie facesitting Vaggie.
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Larry the cat would never outlaw facesitting just saying
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>>156144660
Who's Larry?
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>>156144692
The longest serving official at 10 Downing Street
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>>156142183
I have hope for next season since Charlie will be busy with Lilith. Maybe running the hotel now will finally make Vaggie think about her own vision for helping sinners instead of just acting as an extension of Charlie. We all know she doesn't consider Heaven the happy ending goal for example.
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>>156145271
Charlie following Lilith like a lost puppy next season doesn't bode well for Vaggie.
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>>156145859
begging for the chaggi break-up ultimatum.
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>>156142830
Allegedly, one of the voice actors at a recent con panel. Don't know which one or which con but I hope it's true.
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Chances of summer 2027 S3 release?
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>>156143772
This is horrible
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>>156141863
I want Roo to be as chipper as Charlie only evil.
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>>156133110
Since there are no official Adam plushies I'm seriously getting one of these. I'd have to get Lute to go with him of course.
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Do the demons see Halloween as offensive?
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>>156148362
there's some minikore plushes from japan but they're only three apples tall and more meant to be big keychains. i have a lute and adam, they're pretty cute.
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>>156148691
oh also you'd have to use ebay and pray, i'm watching some other minikore plush prices and the one i want for a different show is still over $100...
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>>156148691
Ohh I forgot those guys. They're cute but I want something wumbo and snuggly.
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>>156148763
etsy might have something unofficial, one time i saw an adam titty mousepad.
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>>156148786
I own an Adam titty mousepad haha
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>>156148788
So comfortable. I put him to good use while shitposting
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>>156148817
lute would buy this and motorboat it and then cry.
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>>156149046
The finished version of this has Lute as the dom in the background
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>>156147867
I hoped, but I'm starting to think it'll be late summer at the very earliest. LVL UP being apparently Helluva focused doesn't fill me with confidence for a June or July release.

More and more I'm thinking the gap will be closer to 2 years this time. September/October release. Maybe they think the fact that the wait between 3 and 4 is supposedly shorter makes up for it.
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>>156149036
>>156149046
I love how everyone is essentially tracing this video instead of celebrating Stolas in it.
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>>156149375
Helluva Boss ruining everything as usual. Maybe this means S3 ends in a crazy cliffhanger (cough LUTE EVE) and they thought the Vox filler season is an easier place to put a longer pause.
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The second half of Helluva S3 is supposed to have a more substantial Hazbin crossover in it. Any hopes? Or will it be a Lucifer cameo?
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>>156149456
Well Blitzø did mention Alastor in the short with Loona and Octavia so maybe? Although why Alastor would want to speak to him is out of my imagination.
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>>156149456
If it's based it will be C.H.E.R.U.B interacting with Exorcists - maybe even Adam himself - given that apparently they know what they are. But it won't be that
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>>156149456
100% the crossover will be Lucifer appearing. They've teased him multiple times including in merch.

I don't think he'll do anything super substantial because he has a lot more development to do in Hazbin before he's making real moves. My personal prediction is he shows up as shit is going down among the Sins/imps/Goetia and doesn't side with or back the Goetia when they expect him to. He probably just peaces out pretty quickly, but enough to throw the Goetia's high status as Lucifer's favored into question.
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>>156149517
Why is he so useless?
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>>156149534
He needs at least 2 seasons more of development before he's useful again.
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>>156129190
I dont give a shit about trashbin motel but OP's pics does things to my dingaling. I wanna grope the tummy of the woman in black
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>>156149557
Watch the show right now
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>>156149544
He's never been useful. His ideal creation is Stolas
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>>156149557
Artist is SaucyMist on xitter
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>>156149557
Her name is Lilith
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>>156149636
If you look her up on Reddit you can learn how to have sex with her in real life
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>ao3 will be down for the next few weeks
sisters, hold me, how will i read my adam x reader smut fics now...
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>>156149693
You have to close your eyes and use the Theatre of the Mind
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Imagine if Blitzo and Stolas don't even get back together at the end of Helluva Boss and postponing Hazbin Hotel for 50 billion years was all for nothing
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Viv liked this on bsky today. Does this officially count as her liking Adam mpreg art?
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>>156150000
checked and yes.
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>>156150000
Lute put it there herself. Lute!Eve is everywhere for those who have eyes to see.
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>>156141827
https://x.com/blxccello/status/2114747749526843529
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>>156142183
You're missing the point of Vaggie. She doesn't have agency. Think.
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>>156151728
my beautiful wife lute ...
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>>156151795
The Cake. The tears. It's perfect.
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When is the next Extermination Day?
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>>156152316
Hopefully in the Helluva Boss finale.
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>>156129190
Chunky
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>>156149406
Because when taken together, there's like 4-5 time as much Stolas fucking than any other character in Hellaverse.
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I read 50 pages of interviews about Lute and all I got was this lousy T-shirt
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>>156152983
Wait really? I didn't get no t-shirt.
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>>156152316
After Lute J6's Heaven
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>>156143772
Where's the Helluva version?
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>>156149534
He's white
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>>156151778
Adam...
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>>156149534
Because he exists to be fucked by men and that's it.
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>>156153510
Adam...
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>>156153549
no i think he exists for whump purposes. he is a narrative chewtoy, an abuse goblin. the author delights in his suffering and invites us to, with the don bluth style promise that he'll get a happy ending, so you and he will survive whatever torments come his way. this might include being fucked by men, but odds are his heart will be broken in the process - an inverse of stolas, who finds brief comfort and liberation in slutting it up with men.

also he looks like onion from steven universe but onclerfied.
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>>156150719
cute

>>156151795
she doesn't deserve him
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>>156153732
She will win back the cakey
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>>156153757
if she didn't appreciate him cakeless she doesn't deserve the buffet.
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>>156153757
>Gave up on Adam prematurely
>Let Roo fuck her husband then raised her puppy child
She lost bigly
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Oh God, if Charlie is Roo's kid and not hers then Lilith is the most traditional kind of cuck. Cuck classic, if you will.
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>>156153907
She's an independent queen(so you are probably correct).
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>>156154043
Yet another Adam W if true. Suddenly he becomes very enthusiastic about having Abel around and makes him tag along to his diplomacy meetings with Lilith as a psychological power move.
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I can't believe the moral of Hazbin Hotel is women need men.
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>>156154824
It's Vivziepop. It was obvious that was gonna be the moral. Also don't forget to add "everything wrong is women's fault" to the moral.
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>>156156010
IT'S JUST LIKE ONE OF MY JAPANESE ANIME
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>>156156010
>not fat
>no eyebags
stolen adam valour
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>>156153549
He exists to be mpregged by Roo's dog penis and later by Alastor's deer penis.
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>>156156616
Weirdly specific on the Roo part.
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>>156156625
She has a dog face and so does Charlie. Charlie's basically the second coming of Yiffany Longstockings.
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>>156156702
>Yiffany Longstockings

I fucking hate you
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>>156156714
But am I wrong
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The twist with Chaggie is Vaggie's actually part human (as an Eve derivative) and Charlie isn't human at all.
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>>156156753
I hope so.
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>>156156785
It's actually been foreshadowed by her being Latina. The primordial ethnic DNA from Eve activated. There were several other specific race exorcists. You had several black ones. All flavours of asian. Some native American. Al weirdly specific types of whites.
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Did Roo disguise as Lilith to sleep with Lucifer now we know she can shapeshift? As a Vivziepop twist on the old stories of Lilith disguising as Eve and Lucifer disguising as Adam to have kids with Adam/Eve?
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>>156156868
Pretty sure she just randomly started butt fucking Lucifer in her true form while he made boku no Pico noises. Lilith walked in and immediately left the room all while keeping the same disinterested look on her face. Lucifer ended up pregnant and a couple of months later Charlie was born.
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I self insert as Lute because Adam reminds me of my bf, even has the cute hairy big tummy.
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>>156156894
You are definitely a rarity. Most bitches self insert as their specific flavour of OC Eve.
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>>156156829
There's that cute gap toothed moe white one who got the same genes as Abel.
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>>156156894
Based man tummy enjoyer
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>>156156911
She had the tooth gap white person loving country music and eating coleslaw genes.
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>>156129190
No. I believe in going for the newer model.
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>>156158343
That's not the newer model that's just fem Lucifer plus some Roo stuff. Race traitor.
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>>156158020
What is this supposed to mean?
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>>156158343
That's Roo's rape baby.
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>>156158586
Exactly. Adam ain't no race traitor.
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What if Roo's facilitating the exterminations because she wants Eve in Hell where she can see her better?
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>>156158613
The possibility she went to hell and was stuck there is pretty likely. It seems more like exterminations are related to another plan and her getting sneaking/buying her way into heaven was part of that plan.
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>>156158363
>Nah Girlie. You were made for me. You are your parents offer of apology to me. Now and forever more you are mine.
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>>156158343
>No. I believe in going for the newer model.
So Lilith should hook up with Abel?
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>>156158666
We call this larping
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>>156158682
My goat Abel would never. He likes dark chocolate.
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>>156158666
Roo made her because she wanted to get her knot wet.
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>>156158698
What do you think /co/mblr is for?
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>>156158832
Timmy to the Rescue threads?
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>>156158832
Nostalgiafagging?
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>>156158819
:((
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Reminder that Lucifer canonically has a gooch as of the latest batch of Helluva Boss
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>>156158902
I don't wanna think about Lucifer's pussy getting knotted by Roo.
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>>156158949
She went for Lucifer that time because he's easily accessible but she wants Eve.
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>>156159031
Gross. Back to HOMESTUCK with you furry.
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>>156153907
To be honest if Rosie is Roo, (now that we have confirmation from Viv saying that she's not going to be what we expect her to be like for someone who is so evil,) then it's even worse because in her audition sheet, it says she is surpassingly motherly. So the literal embodiment of evil is a better mother than Miss Independent Lilith. That's probably why Lilith has always been distant with Charlie. She knows Charlie is an abomination.
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>>156156893
>>156156868
In all seriousness, it could just be like.... How Aku gave his "seed" to the cult priestess. It was his blood or Essence or whatever.

Lucifer drank her cum
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>>156159188
You know what. I'm fine with her being distant towards Charlie if that's the case. Especially if Charlie was a Lucifer workaround which he did without asking her. Imagine him going " Look I made a deal with a powerful entity so now we got a kid to raise. Yay" and you just have to deal with it now regardless of your opinion and feelings on the situation.
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>>156158020
>>156158377
isn't adam a hologram who can choose if he's solid or not in this scene? maybe it's pointing out that he chooses to solidify his hand just to touch lute.
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>>156159213
Lucifer probably drank it as a smoothie.
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>>156158343
i'm trying to picture the curvature of this charlie's spine in order for us to see both the titty and the ass at these specific angles and it's very funny to me personally.
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>>156141731
>>156158666
Case in point.
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>>156159305
Again Adam was made for human women. He is legally their property. Those are the rules.
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>>156159254
So Viv addressed this in the Blu-ray commentary. Her, Sam and Skye said that this was an oversight + cartoon logic. They kind of realize a little too late that he was eating the ribs, and he shouldn't be able to do that. But they didn't really care
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>>156159237
>ditches adam to get away from being an eternal babymaker, the fun part isn't worth it
>skip to however old charlie was years ago
>lucifer shows up one day and hands her some demon baby and tells her they're parents now
>didn't even get to do the fun part
no wonder she ditched his ass.
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>>156159331
i just thought they were hologram ribs and it was another example of how much he was fucking with charlie the whole time. eating fake ribs just to make her listen to his ASMR mukbang.
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>>156159360
Honestly I think the bigger issue would be her being on the other side of "Lucifer does a thing without consulting anyone else" and finding out that it kinda sucks and the angels had point. Like I feel he kinda just became grating after a while and more of his flaws and "quirks" popped out.
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>>156159360
You can't hold him accountable! He was in his dirty bird era! He just wanted to feel something!!!
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>>156159391
>ASMR mukbang
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>>156159436
Why does that sound incredibly plausible?
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>>156159522
Because he's selfish and prideful. Because Stolas was made in his image.
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>Pilot employee says idea behind Charlie is that she was not supposed to exist, and Evil had something to do with that.
>Lilith was always distant with Charlie, this is seen in the pilot when she doesn't answer her calls.
>Lilith has gray skin in the family portraits, but she has normal human skin in Heaven
>Former Hazbin background artist says they "think" Lilith is Rosie and that Roo is "yet another white woman".
>Viv confirms Roo can shapeshift
>Confirms A twin wife swap plot, says that once Eve's ruse is revealed, then Roo is revealed as the big bad...???
>Jessica says Lute is Eve + she would be most comfortable with Rosie, if she had to make a soul deal.
>Alleged leak from work chat says "Rosie and Eve are connected"

Rosie is Roo, Lute is Eve, Lilith is Eve. Thank you.
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You just know Vivziepop loves the idea of Lucifer bottoming for her super special edgy girl OC she's had forever.
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>>156159630
I do think there was either a genuine misunderstanding or the employee was just going by what was told to her in passing... If Roo can not only shape-shift, and she's revealed to be the brain behind the whole Eve thing... Then she was probably shapeshifting as everyone and calling herself Eve or Lilith,

Hell, I wouldn't even be surprised if she's the one that helped Lute get into heaven. Old years ago during the pilot, Viv said that the exorcists are controlled by forces beyond Heaven and Hell, alluding to Roo.
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>>156159630
>Lilith is Eve

I think you misstyped
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>>156159681
>>156159630
Yeah, I meant Lilith is Lilith. Now I look like a jackass. But you know what I meant.
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Another thing is Lucifer's response when Charlie asks whether Lilith would be proud of her. He says he HOPES she would be, but he's noticeably uncertain. What do you mean you hope so? Why does he sound like he genuinely doesn't know? Does Lucifer himself not know how Lilith feels about their own daughter?
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You see it's okay that Lucifer got went off and got knocked up by the goddess of evil because Lilith said she wanted to take a break.
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>>156159862
Probably. If Roo is the true mother/the catalyst for Charlie's existence it's definitely plausible. Like yeah Lucifer is probably proud of his magical demon baby but Lilith? She doesn't seem that thrilled.
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>>156159876
Oh absolutely. Lilith probably had a mature talk with Lucifer were she suggested they have a break for a short while and next time he showed up he was pregnant and crying.
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>>156153453
Some of these designs look cool. I like that teal one.
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>>156161569
His belly looks so comfortable.
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>>156159237
How are they going to explain why Lucifer didn't just make Charlie himself? He can make very powerful and complex life already and doesn't need to make a deal with Roo to do so.

It would make more sense that he created Charlie and Roo somehow latched on without him realizing. I wouldn't be surprised if she had a fixation on the Morningstars and took her shot. I also recall Viv liking an interesting theory on Lucifer's power boosting Hell's and maybe Roo's by extension.
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>>156159647
Maybe he'll be who she sexually menaces, but if nothing else they'll definitely fight. Viv loves her big fight scenes and Roo is the only character Lucifer would need to and could go all out against (and still probably lose because beating Roo is no doubt Charlie's job).
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>>156162227
Because perhaps Lucifer wanted Charlie to resemble both him and Lilith. Hence my assumption that they made a deal with Roo to allow Lilith to conceive, or that Roo provided a portion of her essence for Lilith to consume, resulting in her pregnancy,

Then there's Viv's response to an attendee who asked about Charlie's parents. The conversation shifted to whether Lucifer himself gave birth to Charlie, which prompted Viv to confirm there's a song lyric in season 3 that could apparently be interpreted that way. This definitely leads me to believe Lucifer was actually responsible for creating Charlie, but needed Roo's involvement to make it possible.
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>>156162299
Would make sense, but it breaks the idea that Lucifer went behind Lilith's back to make a Charlie that's being tossed around in this thread. I would be genuinely shocked if Lucifer altered Lilith's body in a Roo deal without her knowing or something. That's a more villainous direction than I think Lucifer will ever be taken. I always assumed if such a deal was made, both did it or Lilith did it solo.

Also, maybe Lucifer could just make a being that looks like a mix of him and Lilith if he wanted to. His other creations look nothing like him so it's not like he can only make echoes of his own likeness. Could be the theory that Lilith is bothered by her inability to conceive to the point where Lucifer just making a kid wouldn't solve the problem. And hers is an issue he can't fix alone.

Maybe Lilith came to regret it after or is resentful that she needed Roo at all? Or whatever the terms were of their deal came to call or started to chafe. Or whatever Roo did to help her conceive left a piece of her in there that changed Lilith. Which is a bit lame but not impossible.
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https://x.com/lutesaurus/status/2117442059141620037

Okay you guys, I'm going nuts but.. I'm pretty sure Roo/Lute Is the second ship Viv has liked a lot on Bsky next to Adam/Lute. I don't think she's even liked Vaggie/Lute this much.
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>>156162409
I have no idea what's going on in the thread regarding Lucifer and Lilith, but I definitely don't think it was something he did behind her back. I think it's something they both did together and agreed to. Or maybe Lucifer did it and wanted to surprise her, thinking that she'd be happy and she wasn't.
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>>156162409
Why wouldn't Viv just say Lilith and Lucifer are Charlie's birth parents then? It'd be technically true so no need to dance around it the way she's been doing. Just have the surprise reveal of the "how" later. I feel like the way she refuses to answer suggests Lilith didn't birth Charlie.
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>>156162841
>>156162409
Guys, I'm pretty sure Lilith and Lucifer made a deal with Roo. She provided whatever was necessary by having Lilith drink her cum or performed some sort of black magic that allowed Lilith to conceive that one time. Lilith got pregnant with Charlie, but never quite overcame her postpartum urge to smother her, possibly because Charlie was conceived through Evil itself. Lucifer and Lilith are still her biological parents; Roo is just the third party who made the pregnancy possible in the first place.

Remember what "Rosie's" audition sheet says? "Rosie is the overlord in Hell who everyone owes a favor too."
>EVERYONE.
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>>156162499
Only Root I'm taking is vile manipulative toxic yuri exceeding abusive levels fitting for what Roo is supposed to be the embodiment of a contrast to what Lute had before.
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>>156162409
Thinking more, if it was only Lucifer his ask could have just been a general and short-sighted "make us able to conceive" rather than "specifically alter Lilith's body." Who's to say whose body/ability the deal changed, maybe both, maybe even just him.

Would he deal in something questionable like that after how catastrophic it was last time? Ehhh maybe? I feel like it may make more sense for Lilith, who seemingly didn't regret things or lose her drive like Lucifer did and thrived in Hell. Seems like she'd have less reservations.
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>>156162908
Would Lilith be uniquely bothered by a kid with evil roots between Charlie's parents? She considered the Sinners her people despite their shittiness unlike Lucifer and thrived in Hell.
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>>156163135
>She considered the Sinners her people
She's okay with her 'people' getting slaughtered. I don't think Lilith is as squeaky clean as the fandom is hoping she is.
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>>156163135
Erika said all Charlie has ever wanted from Lilith is her attention, affirmation and affection, meaning Lilith never gave her those things. We see Lilith pull Charlie away from Lucifer, who clearly wanted her there with him. Viv liked a post where it said Charlie keeps failing her goal of redemption because she keeps doing it for mommy's attention. She parasocially takes on Lilith's dream for herself (signs of a neglected and abused child who's placed with a lot of pressure)

Lilith isn't a good mom.
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>>156163145
That may be so, but Viv has liked multiple takes about Lilith seeing herself as Queen Sinner, identifying with them and suggesting that's part of the rift between her and Lucifer. That makes it seem even more unlikely that Charlie having some evil in her would bug her that much, especially considering how sunshine and rainbows Charlie is anyways.

>>156163174
Never said she was a good mom, I just question whether Charlie having a bit of bad blood would be the reason for her distance. If anything you'd think Lucifer would be more bothered by it between the two of them.
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>>156163208
I mean, there's a difference between sinners, who inherited their free will from Adam and Eve, with Eve specifically having only consumed the fruit / Roo, and a creature being direct product of Evil manifest. Charlie is of Roo herself. A pilot employee said that Charlie's existence was a mistake, that she wasn't supposed to be born, and that Evil had something to do with it. I do think that'd bother Lilith. We see the red glowing ominous Tree of Knowledge bother her in the opening sequence. That's visual clue.
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>>156163242
This is damn fascinating.
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>>156163405
>Ready to defend the worst kind of sinners
Hitler redemption arc when?
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>>156162299
>The conversation shifted to whether Lucifer himself gave birth to Charlie, which prompted Viv to confirm there's a song lyric in season 3 that could apparently be interpreted that way
Oh yeah. The way she said this discounted actual pregnant Lucifer to me, but it makes me think more that Lilith may never have been pregnant with Charlie either. There's not much to have fun with there if it's explicitly confirmed Lilith was the pregnant one.
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>>156163036
Which is probably not happening and this is a HolyGates situation.
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>>156164191
Viv likes Roo/Lute toxic yuri
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>>156164227
She also liked HolyGates yaoi.
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>>156164236
She's also liked Lucifer/Adam.
Adam was destined to die. Lucifer is still pining over his wife. That was never going to happen.

With Abel/Peter, Peter is a relatively unimportant background character, Abel is confirmed straight and it's been hinted he has a thing for Emily. Even that doesn't have much focus because he's not too important.

Lute is Eve. Roo is confirmed to be the Evil Goddess that's been popping up in both shows. Both of these characters are extremely important to the story, and they have history. Neither of them are dead. This has a greater chance of happening.
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>>156164267
>Neither of them are dead

So are Abel and Peter. You also have a ton scenes where the two interact and both have been in Heaven for a long while.
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>>156163208
Charlie not being Lilith's biological daughter would be enough to bother her and precipitate a rift on its own.
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>>156164320
Again. Saint Peter is a background character with zero importance.
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>>156164326
Ok. Still both are objectively a reach.
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>>156164321
Based Lilith. Keep on slaying Queen.
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>>156164339
Not really. They are completely different. It was just explained to you how.
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>>156164326

wait are you srsly comparing holygates with lutexroo? as if they're in the same league?
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>>156164345
Still think you are putting your hopes too much into this. Like the possibility it's not happening is definitely bigger than you think.
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>>156164365
Am I hoping for it? Sure.
Am I *expecting* it? Not really.
Will I expect to get indulged? Yes, especially knowing Viv. Roo is probably going to come across like a rapey stalker bitch who's been whispering in Lute/Eve's ear for ages. Roo & Eve being toxic yuri is on the table.

EvexSatan or EvexSerpent is not a new thing. Viv already said Lucifer isn't the traditional figure and Lute's voice actress she hears voices, not just Adam's.
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I need bird Adam but with the underside transforming into massive testicle.
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>>156164382
what
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>>156164376
Idk it's Viv. At the end of the day there's some stuff I can see her doing and some stuff I don't see her doing. This doesn't feel like her hand.
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>>156164385
I would post it but catbox is down and I don't know how trigger happy people are over BALLS
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>>156164191
I wouldn't want it either but if it did no other way than extremely abusive.
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>>156164227
>>156164376
Noncon I'd hope
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>>156164452
>>156164439
Lame. Why only noncon
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>>156164455
???
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>>156164455
Because Eve is loyal and Roo is supposed to be pure evil. That's worse than wanting Angel to consent to Val.
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>>156164452
>>156164455
>Lesbian noncon in a Viv show


What's next? The economy fixes itself? The housing market becomes affordable?
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>>156159331
Charlie can't touch the ribs, which means he's eating them in Heaven
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>>156164474
HEAVEN RIBS
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>>156164466
She gladly accepted the apple aka Roo/Evil. It's dubcon territory at its worst. In some texts, she's the one that goes away with Satan and/or they have Cain. And Viv has been liking a lot of roo+lute stuff lately.
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>>156164471
Chaggie are your low stakes healthy lesbian pairing. Most ships especially the yaoi are highly toxic so it wouldn't surprise me if Roo and Lute have that dynamic.
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>>156164480
Yeah I think you should separate what's actually likely to happen from what you want to happen. You are going down the same thought as HolyGates fans.
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>>156164480
Yeah, but the apple was deception. She hates sinners for a reason. Look if you want Lute feeling dubious then sure but Roo should no way even remotely see her as nothing but a pawn to play with and SA.
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>>156164484
Sounds like cope.
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>>156164500
You tell me with a straight face any of this is genuine affection.
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>>156164493
holygates is not comparable to lute/roo. you just don't like the pair. you can just say that.
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>>156164504
Less talking about it being genuine or not and more of it actually happening. Like I genuinely think your drinking the copium juice that this will actually be a thing in the show. There will definitely be fanfics with this specific dynamic. But the show? Probably not.
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How is Abel/Peter at all even in the same category as Roo/Lute. If you're going to make retarded claims at least use something comparable, like Adam/Lucifer.
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>>156164511
I'm not saying they will be endgame, have a happily ever after and have babies. That's not what makes it a "thing". It can absolutely be a thing that's one sided or even somewhat mutual.

Adam Big Dick master doesn't pay attention to Lute and has no issues fucking other pussy. Let her have fun. She deserves it.
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>>156164512
Because I was talking about the fans. HolyGates fans were genuinely convinced and didn't have nothing (at the time) to point otherwise. AdamsApple was always a pipe dream from the moment they interacted to Adam's death.
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>>156164511
Now I'm confused, I'm not rejecting the concept of it, fans are going to eat that shit up because there's a degenerate in all of us all I'm saying is objectively no consent can come out of this, Roo and Val are compared and do you see Val having healthy partners?
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>>156164522
>Let her have fun. She deserves it.
Great. Where's the fun in sexual assault?Adam had fun flings but this is borderline going to be torture for Lute.
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>>156164522
I didn't say it was endgame. I literally said that the chances of it happening in general were small. I'm not even talking about a specific dynamic I'm just saying it's not super probable.
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>>156164524
>Roo and Val are compared
Viv never compared them.

>do you see Val having healthy partners?
This may surprise you but even the worst human scum can have genuine romantic relationships.

You can just say because it's lesbians. We get it. You hate homos and fags.

Roo/EveLute have a lot of grounds for actually being a thing. So it's understandable that some people get hope. It's not just looking at Viv's likes

Abel/Peter -> not a thing in the show -> Viv likes some art for -> doesn't mean anything,

Lute/Roo -> Lute has a whole thing with sinners and evil -> Eve eats the apple -> Eve and Satan/Evil/Death have historical themes in many many texts -> Viv likes art for it -> it may mean something,

And that's not even counting the leaks.
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>>156164536
Love how you won't even consider the possibility that it could very well be mutual. Eve/Devil mythology goes hard.
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>>156164536
It also assumes Roo actually cares about Lute that way. Like she could just be an important pawn and Roo's main focus is causing chaos and reconnecting with her Daughter Charlie. Once again dunking on Lilith in the motherhood department.
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>>156164553
So she can care about Charlie but not Eve.
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>>156164547
Hazbin doesn't follow mythology one to one and people shouldn't expect it to do that just because that mythology exists. I'm pretty sure you said so yourself.
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>>156164553
Charlie is also a massive pawn
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>>156164543
>Viv never compared them.
I feel like I'm getting gaslighted I swear somewhere in Roo's comments I read she's worse than Valentino.
>>156164547
Because Roo is pure evil and how would Eve feel nothing but resentment at the part Roo played in the downfall of humanity???
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>>156164560
Correct, JUST because the mythology exists. It's a different ballgame when Viv incorporates it. Example: Lucifer, Lilith, Stolas, the Sins, even Alastor's name was one she got from demonology.
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I prefer the Adam schizo, if I'm being honest
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>>156164557
I mean I'm expecting some Mother Gothel manipulation. A mother knows best type deal after things with Lilith sour hard. Charlie might have some serious potential for destruction and getting her onboard could be a big win. She always wanted her mother's love. Roo can give her that.
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>>156164565
>how would Eve feel nothing but resentment at the part Roo played in the downfall of humanity?
That was Lucifer. Lucifer offered the apple, Roo, to Eve, which she gladly took
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>>156164569
Who?
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>>156164565
>I swear somewhere in Roo's comments I read she's worse than Valentino.
In an interview or just general fandom chit-chat? I don't recall this ever being said about Roo, so far.

>156164569
K

>I'm expecting some Mother Gothel manipulation
Keep talking
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>>156164574
>she gladly took

Because she didn't exactly know what it would entail. Everyone likes candy. Not so much when it's filled with dubious shit.
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>>156164569
Ok. And I like the Roo schizo. So fucking what.
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Who do you guys think will die in the show? A lot of people think Vaggie or even Lilith.
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>>156164594
Someone else said Sera had a few death flags, but dunno what they were referring to. She lost a lot of aura between S1 & 2 so maybe her utility as a character is running out.
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>>156164582
>I'm expecting some Mother Gothel manipulation

I mean it's pretty likely. Charlie wants her mother to pay attention and love her. Her finding out Lilith isn't her true mom and that Roo is might make her more willing to give Roo a listen. It would be kinda funny if it's an opposite Rapunzel situation. Her bio mom who she hasn't known for most of her life is the evil manipulative one and her adoptive mom is the more chill albeit less loving and less interested in paying attention to her.
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>>156164588
Who?? What the fuck are you talking about? Roonigger?
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>>156164594
That background spider sinner from the pilot era, since his biggest fan recently left Spindlehorse, and Skye is pretty ambivalent towards him.
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>>156164607
Nta. Don't bring that evil here. Irrelevant to the conversation.
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>>156164612
Who?
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>>156164622
That's literally the only prominent Roo schizo is know.
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>>156164601
>Her bio mom who she hasn't known for most of her life is the evil manipulative one and her adoptive mom is the more chill albeit less loving and less interested in paying attention to her.

To be VERY honest, I think this is exactly what they're doing. Viv already said Roo isn't going to be what we're expecting, which makes me think she'll probably be goofy and silly while still being a legitimate threat (Bill Cipher vibes?). Lilith probably resents Charlie because she knows how Charlie came to be, which would explain why she's always been so distant and never gave her the love or affection she needed. Charlie, of course, believes Lilith is her biological mother and would do anything for her.

Meanwhile, Rosie is described as “surpassingly motherly to Charlie,” calls herself her auntie and is more than willing to lend her an ear. She would be the last type of character I'd expect Evil to be. She's essentially the mother Charlie never had, and I think there's a very real possibility that Rosie is straight-up Roo. Especially considering Alastor summoned her, (the Fizz bots have the same stitches he does. They also have the same eye Vox does). Roo, being Evil itself, would naturally gravitate toward evil characters. and if she played a role in Charlie's conception, of course she'd have a soft spot for her.
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>>156164600
While I could see that if only from a dramatic standpoint, those arguments would also apply to Emily. Hell, if they were going to kill off a Heaven character for dramatic effect, I think Emily is more likely to die than Sera. At this point though, it wouldn't surprise me, even if on some level I would find it kinda cheap what with her arc in season 2.
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>>156164628
They're a larper. Roonigger knows jack shit about Roo lore. I think they only like the character design. I'd call Looty the bigger Roo schizo
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>>156164624
Angel Dust
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>>156164582
>In an interview or just general fandom chit-chat? I don't recall this ever being said about Roo, so far.
Ah, here we go:
https://hazbinhotel.fandom.com/wiki/Roo
>In tweets on February 24, 2020, Vivziepop implied that the Hazbin universe does have an entity that is "evil" personified, and stated they are much worse than Valentino.
Granted I pulled it from the wiki.
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>>156164639
oooh Good catch!
https://web.archive.org/web/20200225044258/https://twitter.com/VivziePop/status/1232146750166589441
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>>156164637
Ohh. Wait you think he's going to die?
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>>156164637
It would actually be so fucked up if Angel is killed and Valentino changes his ways after / redeemed
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>>156164557
I think Roo could care about Eve in her own twisted way. Even did free Roo after all. Roo would want to keep her for herself and wouldn't factor in Eve's desires (she is very jealous, and allows Adam to be permakilled because it suits her) but she does care to the greatest extent that the embodiment of Evil can care, at least as much as she cares for Charlie. In her mind Eve is her wife and just doesn't know it yet.
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>>156164647
Valentino finds Jesus
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>>156164650
Nah. Seems like a reach just to turn Roo into a Eve simp.
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>>156164659
I would actually argue Roo IS a big Eve simp. She needed Eve. Not Lucifer, not Lilith, not Adam: Eve was the key to humanity. And if my hunch is right, she's been in her head ever since (Adam hallucination). Especially with the old leaks about how Roo is revealed to be the big bad after Eve is defeated.
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>>156164631
they never explained Sera's lines at the start of the courtroom song where she's acting all cryptic and implying her hands are tied in allowing the Exterminations. They still could but it's implied they dropped that thread with her agreeing with redemption and stopping the exterminations in S2. What a fumble.

It seemed like she had much more going on and now she's been reduced to an awkward tritagonist-on-the-other-side role. And Heaven in general and the elder angels look weaker now.

The worldbuilding is reduced between S1 and 2, and I say that as someone who enjoyed S2 for the most part.
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>>156164659
Simp implies that she bends over backwards to suit Eve which is the opposite of what I'm suggesting. She'd want to take her and keep her irrespective of Eve's feelings on the matter.
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>>156164594
Husk
One of the seraphim
Lilith
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>>156164668
>I would actually argue Roo IS a big Eve simp. She needed Eve. Not Lucifer, not Lilith, not Adam: Eve was the key to humanity.

Not really. She was just the one in the perfect position by being screwed over by everyone else. She's not the secret key. She's the loser who drew the short end of the stick by elimination.
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>>156164669
>The worldbuilding is reduced between S1 and 2, and I say that as someone who enjoyed S2 for the most part.
The worldbuilding was most likely intentionally left unexplored. Viv confirmed both years ago and more recently that there's extensive lore surrounding Heaven, particularly its hierarchy. However, Season 2 was originally supposed to come AFTER Season 3, which was initially planned as Season 2 (the Lilith stuff). With the seasons being rearranged, they had to remove or hold back certain worldbuilding elements that would've relied on information established in the original order.
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>>156164673
Simp might not be the correct term but having so much of her focus just be Eve seems lame.
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>>156164686
Not a secret key, but absolutely THE key. Eve is undoubtedly the chosen one, precisely because she was the one who had to consume the forbidden fruit. If anyone holds the key to understanding the true nature of Evil and its influence over creation, it's her.

>>156164696
Not really. Again, Eve and Devil mythology goes deep. Eve has historically been associated with Death, Satan, sin, etc, with extensive theological and mythological connections to all these themes. If Roo is going to be particularly fixated on anyone, it's going to be Eve.

You know... Lute? The one who obsesses over eradicating sin, what's right/wrong, the one who's going all revenge apeshit for her cheating dead husband? Proving herself to be a prime target yet again for Roo.
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Alright, we have sexual assault obsession by comparison worst than Val on one end but the other we have—exactly resentment and remorse. Two ingredients for toxicity. That's even assuming Roo is going to want to tap that, but nothing on Lute's end even suggests consent maybe dubious and that's a stretch.

No, I don't hate fags I'm legit just being observational because every antagonist relationships are abusive sans you guessd it Adam and Lute. Not my words, what I watch and the writing tells me.
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>>156164669
>>156164689
I just had the idea after posting that: maybe Sera's deal with Adam was binding like a Hell deal, and she physically couldn't agree with Charlie in the courtroom even if she wanted to (hence her strange lines).
Maybe Adam's death broke the deal, and that's the main reason they stopped the Exterminations afterward. Not simply that Pentious proved redemption possible, or Hell using angelic weaponry + killing Adam made exterminations no longer feasible.
Some folk reckon that Sera was tiring of Adam and basically sent him to his death in S1e8, so maybe this is it.
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>>156164707
That's fair and I applaud. I just like the very concept of these two, consensual or not.

Knowing Viv, Roo/Lucifer might be more of a thing
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If Roo is the Adam hallucination then she got Lute/Eve to grind on her.
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>>156164696
Should be Eve and Charlie
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>>156164712
Hell yeah, say it louder.
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>>156164705
Yeah I think this might be too much of "specific" ship for you for it to be a genuine discussion. I'm betting it ain't happening. Buy me a soda if it doesn't I'll buy you one if it does.
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>>156164710
Exactly. Especially considering Lucifer fetish abuse.
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>>156164719
>Buy me a soda if it doesn't I'll buy you one if it does.
Deal
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>>156164726
Disclaimer. Whoever buys the soda will probably have to drink it themselves because I live on the ass end of the world and shipping that can will probably cost more than 100 sodas. Like if you're from the continent of America there's some distance. Idk maybe post a pic of the opened can on the thread when the bet is completed.
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>>156150954
Okay this song is fucking nuts. Roo will be fun.
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>>156164712
Roo had to pretend to be Adam. Roo being a cuck confirmed.
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>>156164744
I don't think it's 'cuck' territory if she's receiving the action.
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>>156164739
https://x.com/lutesaurus/status/2117524013656555584
bet
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>>156164744
Roo don't care. She's an evil goddess, she'll do whatever she wants to get coochie. If she has to kill a guy and pretend to be his ghost to get his grieving wife to hit she'll do that.
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>>156164754
Who else but Roo?! :D
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>>156164753
Oh you picked the exact best to torture me. I hate the taste of cream soda.
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This may unironically get people to vote.
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>>156164754
Quagmire/Roo new otp
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>>156164762
Anybody actually cares about that?
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>>156164763
>Quagmire/Roo new otp
Giggity
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>>156164765
She could have picked a better topic, I think. Or maybe give a spoiler. Or something.

I mean, yes people actually DO care about the tail but still, annoying
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>>156164753
You'll have to drink a DR Pepper (you can do any other fizzy drink if you don't have it in the country where you live).
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>>156164777
ARGH. HOW DID YOU KNOW I FUCKING HATE DR. PEPPER?! FINEEE-EUGH
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>>156164767
Roo's catchphrase is actually Roogity. She just occasionally says it.
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>>156164781
Okay wait, I may change my twitter handle to that. That's a good one.
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>>156164780
I just picked it because it's my favourite. Funny how that works.
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>>156164765
I don't. I don't even vote for president.
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>>156164786
Very funny. You hate cream soda and I hate dr. pepper. we are star crossed lovers, you and i
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>>156164788
Do you even get to vote where you live?
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>>156164791
Fascinating
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>>156164705
Plus Lute must smell like offal which is a delicious sexy smell to Roo. I bet she fell in love the first time she saw her naked and covered in blood in Eden.
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>>156164804
You. I like you. Keep talking.
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What do you guys think they'll announce on November 7?
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The question is will Sinner Adam get a chance to reconcile with his wife? Will her courtship by fucking Roo be the kick in the dick he needs to pay attention to her and make things right between them?
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>>156164793
In the US? Yeah
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>>156164822
Are we for sure that Adam will come back as a sinner?
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>>156164822
> he needs to pay attention to her and make things right between them?

Objectively it doesn't work because it's her fault for not telling him. She ain't exactly in the right here for doing that.
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>>156164829
Yes. The merch confirms it. Also it makes sense.
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>>156164835
So he'll let Roo have her way with her?
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>>156164835
Even without the whole secret identity situation and her never confessing her feelings, the fact that he didn't see her, *Lute* of all people, that way is a kick to the tits. That's what we go on about sometimes. Of course, it's on her for never telling him how she felt, and he certainly wasn't wrong for fucking around with other people. But it's the fact that he never saw her as someone he could be romantically interested in, despite everything between them, that makes it sting.
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>>156164822
I mean from what I'm getting Eve felt guilt and changed or whole identity outta shame but couldn't abandon Adam whereas Adam lost Eve but gained danger tits but fools around with groupies because he's hiding a lot of pain. None of them can fill that Eve hole. I don't even think Lute minded by the comments he made at Charlie. A price to pay for leaving your true identity behind but together both you and Adam would cleanse all sinners.
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>>156164841
Not sure if he's aware of Roo's existence but he probably wouldn't encourage that.
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>>156164842
Roo will give a speech exactly like this to Lute then ask if this means she can stick a tentacle up her butt, not wait for a response and do it anyway.
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>>156164829
>>156164838
How do think we'll get Adam and Cain reunion?
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>>156164842
Honestly it's difficult to get the exact situation because Adam doesn't get as much focus as Lute/Eve so it's hard to discern his train of thought and feelings. He doesn't really show his deep feelings throughout his short runtime and I'm not sure if he's ever actually going to get any focus in the end.
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>>156164869
.... go on
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>>156164873
I'd hope so. I know people want Lute/Eve to get everything but this man needs something to actually exist. He lacks too much metaphorical meat.
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>>156164842
Sure but he vindicated her, far as he thought of Lute as a kindred spirit where both of them shared the same idea of entertainment that he could've releshed with other exorcists, but it's her that sticks by his side and even guides him.
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>>156164878
I feel the smile should've said a lot especially it was prominent to be added in post.
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>>156164879
What can I say? She's Evil, she's a rapist. She'll sexually assault Eve to get her rocks off and make quippy comments about helping her get all that sexual frustration out.
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>>156164888
Yeah but it's one smile. Even so it's more directed towards her. We don't know what he's thinking or how he's thinking.
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>>156164896
The fandom and internet would crucify Viv if she did that. Also not sure how ok Amazon would be with that.
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>>156164899
I mean, they're okay with Valentino and Angel stuffs. Plus it'd be hate fucking. Or at best, a BDSM montage (a la Stolas)
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>>156164897
>that face you're making I feel I've seen it somewhere before...that pretty look after she got fucked over
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>>156164899
So it's cool for men to SA other men but this is troo faa?
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>>156164820
An air date hopefully
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>>156164906
In internet land. Yes.
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>>156164901
Eh it's ok if it's just men. Women. Not so much.
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>>156164921
Can't hate double standards enough.
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>>156164937
Welcome to the internet.
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>>156164906
Women can SA women. The one they can't touch in internet land is men SAing women.
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What Lute really needs is someone worse than her who can make her worse.
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>>156164965
she had that, then Niffty stabbed him to death.
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>>156164973
Adam can't handle her freak. Sam and Viv both affirmed this. Adam was put off by how violent she is + Viv compared them to a henchman/boss duo where the henchman is just *too* into it. Adam can't handle that rib. She needs a real man. Thankfully Roo is not an entity bound by human gender. She can shapeshift into a dude if that's what Lute wants.
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>>156164973
And Niffty is definitely under Roo's influence. Roo wants to be Lute's 'someone worse'.
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>>156164992
Sounds like cope
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>>156165004
Sam and Viv saying Adam can't handle her freak is legit. She freaks him out when she goes overboard.
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>>156164937 >>156164960
Mens' advocates complaining about double standards has always come off pretty weaksauce imo. Men and women are inherently different and you're going to see different standards applied no matter what.

It's odd how men's advocates will otherwise understand liberalism and blank slatism to be bullshit, then complain that a big man and small woman have their safety concerns treated differently.

Feminists understand this and it's why they cynically oscillate between demanding equal and special treatment depending on what's useful in the moment.
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>>156165007
Yeah but what you're suggesting is the other extreme of "she needs a happy go lucky super optimistic sugar ball to calm her down". People seem obsessed with having Lute be near these extreme influences. Her conclusion will be getting redeemed and chilling the fuck out so I don't think they plan to encourage the "she should be locked up or put down like a rabid dog" people. It's why Adam works. She needs someone supporting of her quirks but who can tone her down when she goes overboard. Having her go to either extreme is not the way.
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>>156153453
>After Lute J6's Heaven
Hopefully more successful than that shitshow.
>durr imma overthrow the government! ... without using muh AR-15s I love so much!
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Yes.

This too

Here

https://youtu.be/6JjO_fKMEt8

Watch
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>>156165028
I dunno can this end with sinner Adam, Cain, Abel, and Eve all making amends and having a happy day in Hell?
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>>156165028
>"she needs a happy go lucky super optimistic sugar ball to calm her down"
??? Bitch I'm saying the opposite. She needs CRAZY, a certified FREAK. Who said anything about calming her down tf?
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>>156165007
Adam's bad reactions to her hysteria are an incentive for her to calm down.
Whether he is telling her to stop or freaking out, both reactions from her Special Big Boy are strong signals to curb her behavior. It's why she's so much worse without him around.
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>>156165061
Hmmm I like your words. I think I can agree with that.
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>>156165059
Dude. Read it carefully. I'm talking about people wanting extremes for her. I mentioned the opposite of what you're talking about because I presented both extremes as the wrong option for her. Both are extremes which don't really help her and she doesn't need. She needs something more in the middle.
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>>156165052
That does sound nice. It does however raise the question if the rest of their kids. What about them. Do they just chill in heaven?
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>>156165061
She's like a loyal dog watching for signals from master. Cute.
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>>156165217
:|
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>>156165220
Can't call him a liar now, can ya?
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>>156165228
It's certainly a way of seeing it. Not sure about it.
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>>156165241
When they're exterminating they're like a violent, bloody version of a farmer with a working collie. He's handling a literal bitch. Go watch some sheepdog trials and see how in sync they are. And why did Abel pick up how to handle her so fast? Because he's a shepherd.
Working dogs respond best to one-syllable names, by the way.
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>>156165297
I don't know if this is a kink.
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Viv herself has liked posts likening Lute to a dog that Abel inherited from Adam
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>>156165349
It is. But I also think it's apt. Woof.
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>>156165373
:/
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>>156165297
the name 'Lute' even sounds like it'd be a command to a dog's ear. It's close to 'Sit' or 'Stay' and it's not just the monosyllabism. I think the 't' is doing work
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>>156165385
:((
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Has Fat Adam turned you into a female chub chaser, ladies? Or even an Architect?
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>>156165675
Why so :((? Working collies are usually beloved by their owners. They even let them sleep on the bed.
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If I wasn't so convinced that Lute's his mother then Abel reawakening his shepherding skills from Earth to command his talented but strong willed (metaphorical) dog Lute would be such a hot dynamic. I'm just not into incest ships though.
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awoooo
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>>156164629
If Rosie is Roo why would she possibly need Alastor and what could he possibly do that she apparently can't?
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>>156164600
I think Sera may die. As the current leader of Heaven, it adds to the chaos, can be an 'oh shit' moment, and forces Emily and even Heaven itself to evolve as a character. Plus we already had what's probably the peak of her character development and her utility is indeed going downhill.
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>>156164557
Charlie IS the main character and is set to have the most impactful reveal regarding Roo.
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>>156166879
Yeah I'm more inclined to believe this. Viv generally doesn't give a ship that much attention unless it's Yaoi and I feel like the whole need to focus on her self insert Charlie takes precedent. Like it's mostly just checking her priorities. Charlie needs to be the character most affected and the focus of Roo because she's the most important thing ever.
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>>156166828
Because she's clearly confined in hell. Her power is limited.
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Hell is red after all.
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>>156168183
This is a Larry the Cat general
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Is it some election period?
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>>156168417
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/larry-cat-back-no-10-155103231.html
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