>big pomp recently about indie animation always limiting its storytelling to 8 episodes max which cripples narrative potential>Dana comes out and says Knights of Guinevere is aiming for 26 episodes to be told in full in the best case scenarioShe saved animation yet again
>indie with industry experience has good idea
>not one but two big titty main characters How does she do it
>More KoG episodes.>More TOH books.She is on fire.
>>156160202She's going to have her show cut in half again, unless she's planned to do this for a decade and for Glitch to be relevant for all of that time. Like even if the studio wants to let her do all 26 if anything happens to the studio they will have to do a rushed ending or it just won't have an ending.
>>156161022Glitch gets funds from the australian government they are not going anywhere lol
>>156161044they haven't gotten gubmint money since they hired liam
>>156160588one of them isn't canon apparently.
>>156161044>shartynigs and assblasted /co/tards still have to repeat thissee >>156161082
>>156160202LETS FUCKING GO!! 26 EPISODE AMERICAN-ANIME!!
>>156160202I hope she never gets to finish it and fades away into obscurity. I hate that up her ass bitch.
>>156161189She embraced her fandom the same way Lauren Faust did. Dana isn't going anywhere.
>>156160588Its confirmed the two aren't trans. She wouldn't be taking testosterone
>>156161224Gwen is not a man nor women technically.
>>156160202>Irrelevant opinion>Please vote De... please vote
>>156161189For me she already has
>Terrace came out as bisexual in 2017,[78] and drew on her experiences to create The Owl House and the bisexual character Luz Noceda.[44] Terrace has mentioned multiple times that she draws inspiration for Luz Noceda from herself. In 2025 she stated that the bisexual label no longer feels accurate to her, and she is comfortable being referred to as just queer.[79]As soon as they jump on the Q term, you know they're full of shit.
Isn't this the bitch that completely fumbled Amty and made her a satellite girlfriend with a shitty dyejob whose mom gets way too much screentime for her role in the show?
Andrea deserves kisses.
>26 episodes As if we'd be around for that long.
>>156161899That's why the second part of the skeet is calling for people to vote, it's the long con, can't make the KOG finale if we're all dead
Her dumbass can't even finish a pilot on time lol
>>156160202>go vote She didnt sat for who, so I assume she means republican as owl house is clearly libertarian capitalist.
>>156161941>That's why the second part of the skeet is calling for people to vote, it's the long con, can't make the KOG finale if we're all deadthose liberal bastards!always having an agenda!
>>156162145republicans are actively destroying everything and public about it evenso I don't think your bots are going to win this time
Should i vote for Moloch or Baal
i want to bust inside Dana
>>156162188Well if you want to throw your vote away you can vote for Maalik
>>156162147Gwen's buttcheeks..
>>156160202>26lmao that shits never going to happenthe eight episode format is so the indie show doesnt take a literal decade to finish one season.
>>156160202>everyone bitching about 8 episode format>Dana comes out wishing for 26 episodes whats the point of this?
>>156162294>people with low expectations are now normalized>corpo booklicker come out swinging where this bitch get off thinking she can demand moreI will never be a conserviKEK or a FAGcel
You LostCope and SeetheLOL
>>156160202>Please vote *for my side>please talk about how bad drumpt is! Trans rights!Can these fucks go 5 minutes without politics?
>>156161484It's funny, though. Call her queer offline and suddenly it's a slur again.
>>156163898the fact she lives rent free inside pieces of shit like youI'm glad she does because you brains are broken
>>156164188Just keep your tranny shit out of things I like. You fuckers had to invade Strawberry Shortcake of all things.
>>156164200No one gave a FUCK about Strawberry Shortcake until Robot Chicken revived their relevance. Literally a case of no one gives a FUCK about politics in media because real people are busy LIVING LIFE.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSa3tAssRM4
>>156160202It's a scandal Glitch gave her a show in the first place and she is demanding they make it three times longer than the indie company can make it.
>>156160588Dana Terrace has already won the art community's respect, so now she's free to fully indulge in her preferred design sensibilities (and even fetishes). That's all Knights of Guinevere is at the end of the day: a vehicle for what Terrace likes to draw.
>>156160588One is normal size and the other is only because she's fat.
>>156160202Hmm, as long as she planned the 8 episodes to be somewhat self-contained so it tells its own arc in the 8 episodes, but leaves an opening for a continuation that they MAY stretch into 26 episodes, I'd be fine with it. Just have some good planning and it can be a feasible model.
dude... just make a fucking webcomic... you can make them as long as you want and they're cheaper
>>156160202i can't want for the s1 to end in 2050
I find Dana incredibly unlikable and I’m disappointed that the biggest studio in “indie animation” decided not to give a shot to some other talented animator, but instead someone who worked at Disney and already had their own complete 3-season-long show which was apparently not enough for them so they’ve spent the past few years moaning about a company who gave them millions of dollars to make the worlds most generic witch story.
>>156160202This seems like something Glitch should have announced and not Dana. This also makes me wonder if Gameoverse is also meant to go beyond 8, same for Gaslight. TADC and Murder Drones were very clearly limited series, as is what’s expected for an indie series with limited budget. So hearing this, in theory, is better for the overall story, but I don’t know if Glitch will commit to it.However, she also says “best case scenario”, which creates this grey area where the rest of the story could be told in graphic novels or a game, or even shorten it to 2 seasons of 8 episodes each. I dunno, I don’t quite buy it because of the way Glitch has operated, and I wonder if the heads of the studio are sweating because they were hoping she would end the story in 8 episodes, as they are already working on another 2D series at the moment.
>>156166177KOG mogs every indie animation out there by a lot though
>>156160202>basically admitting her show is going to be poorly written rushed slopis she insane?
>>156166202Not really. Only visually and the Calling All Villains has better animation.
>>156166189If the merch money keeps rolling in then I don't see why they wouldn't continue it for as long as possible, just like the old TV cartoon model KOG isn't the most popular Glitch show views-wise but Dana could have a dedicated built-in fanbase that buys the merch at a higher ratio than the other shows, being a recognizable face (eceleb) is super important in online fanbase money-making, you can have someone like PewDiePie who doesn't rely on a single Let's Play series for video ad money but rather has a fanbase that likes him for him and buys his merch and mobile games and watches his book-recommendation and other non-game videos because he's making them rather than because it's something they cared about beforehand Also it's safer to have a long running show with consistent sales than keep cycling shows in and out arbitrarily hoping for another hit that may never come
>>156166233>Not really. Yes really.>Only visually and the Calling All Villains has better animation.Not really, 2D mogs 3D by default, also Calling All Villains falls for the same trap as ZZZ, more movement =/= better animation.
>>156166233Even visually I’d say it’s not all that. Ersatz and Lackadaisy both look much better than KoG
>>156166177Yeah, really not a fan of this recent trend in indie animation where it’s become just another way to re-platform untalented industry has-beens who already had their shot and blew it
>>156166270Owltard
>>156166244Somehow I doubt KOG merch sells that well considering the episodes viewership are crazy high the first week and then drop off like hell for the rest of the year. Also the people complaining about the surprise boxes being a scam won’t help, and the show overall not being very marketable due to its grim nature. You never see people with KOG merch the way you see for TADC, MD and Gameoverse out there.>Also it's safer to have a long running show with consistent sales than keep cycling shows in and out arbitrarily hoping for another hit that may never comeBut they are developing new shows right now, which only rises the cost. And what happens if that new 2D show makes more money than KOG and it would be more profitable to put all funding there than keep making KOG for over 20 episodes? Which, with the animation quality and time put into it, will take forever to complete. Its just not been their business model so far, and I don’t think it will be if their plan is to make even more shows
>>156162145Big doubt, anon. She spent most of 2020 on Twitter shitting on Trump and desantis rather than overseeing the owl house. It's likely why we got such an inconsistent season. Nobody was proofreading the scripts before approving them.
>>156166326>Somehow I doubt KOG merch sells that well considering the episodes viewership are crazy high the first week and then drop off like hell for the rest of the year.Like I said the view:merch ratio could be way off due to Dana's fame factor, it could be selling 1.5-2x the merch per a million views compared to the other shows which would make it more lucrative despite lower views, look at the sort of line she gets for a book signing, I doubt any other Glitch creator barring Goose could gather this crowd (who refuses to appear in public anyway) and these are all adult US fans with money to spend rather than international kids watching episodes on repeat and inflating views >and the show overall not being very marketable due to its grim natureHow is this an issue in an age where FNAF is one of the most popular merch IPs out there >But they are developing new shows right now, which only rises the cost. And what happens if that new 2D show makes more money than KOG and it would be more profitable to put all funding there than keep making KOG for over 20 episodes?In the words of the Wu-Tang Clan, you need to diversify your bonds, if KOG is a consistent and steady stream of income for the same investment then it'd warrant being kept alive even if they somehow get another TADC-level hit, especially since Dana isn't as flaky as giving shows to randos and having them burn out after 8 episodes There's also the potential that Dana could be helping set up Glitch's entire 2D pipeline using her industry knowledge which is an invaluable asset to an indie studio looking to expand
>>156166569NTA but, FNAF is a bad comparison because despite being horror virtually every character has a cuddly marketable exterior. Gwen is the only real only character from KOG with the same marketability. Like do see kids wanting to buy a plush doll of someone like Sparky for instance?
>>156166609>Like do see kids wanting to buy a plush doll of someone like Sparky for instance?No but gays into rough daddies do, and Dana likely knows a lot of those watch Glitch shows
>>156166569You're making a lot of assumptions based on online popularity. I don't doubt she's got a pretty neat fanbase to get signings like this and a show with Glitch, but I think saying "no other creator gets crowds like this" is pretty disingenuous. You don't know if Gameoverse or Murder Drones could get the same crowds, as those creators haven't had a chance to do signings, but you have probably seen more people with their merch than KOG out there.This signing is also for a Disney product, so I wouldn't use it to compare it to KOG's crowds. That's an event promoted by a big company and not an independent one. Again, not saying she doesn't have a fanbase, but it doesn't mean KOG is super successful just because this video exists. Matt Braly's lines for the Amphibia art book were also pretty good, and I don't see anyone saying his indie show is gonna be a guaranteed mega hit.>How is this an issue in an age where FNAF is one of the most popular merch IPs out thereI don't have to explain to you why the animatronics in FNAF are more marketable than everyone in KOG other than Guenivere. You have common sense, use it.>especially since Dana isn't as flaky as giving shows to randos and having them burn out after 8 episodesThe "rando" who burned out after 8 episodes made their biggest hit ever and got into movie theaters. The "rando" they trusted before her made their second biggest hit that has gained them several hot topic and merch deals. If anything, they should invest more in "randos", as they have done more successful work than Dana in the indie space so far. Ross is more of a "rando" than Dana too and his pilot surprassed Dana's in viewership, popularity and merch sales.
>>156166787MR MR MR BEAST MR MR MR BEAST
>>156166718The burned out rando who gave them TADC also gave them only 9 episodes when they would've likely preferred a lot more, similar how Adult Swim wanted 5 Smiling Friends seasons but the burned out randos gave them only 3, maybe studios prefer having experienced showrunners who can handle the pressure and workload of actually running a show long term I have nothing else to add other than the fact that you countered my sales speculation with your sales speculation just in the other direction meaning your sales arguments are no more substantiated than mine, while the other practical factors I brought up still stand
>>156161208Has lauren faust done any shows after mlp?I thought she quit being a showrunner to become a mom
>>156166912She did a revamp of DCSHG back in 2019 but left after one season to pursue another pet project of hers, since then she's been more or less radio silent
>>156166925that's what i thought
>>156160202I don't care for this show or Dana, im just happy SBA still gets industry work. Kinda lame her wife left the opportunity of having her own Disney show for going to work at KOG but i get both sides. Disney dosn't want to deal with another Dana and Alexander dosn't want to deal with Disney telling her to not add LGTBQ+ stuff now that they are back in their "no gays allowed" era
>>156166940SBA?
>>156166947>newfag detectedSBA is Anna Lencioni a boarder at KOG and wife of Onyx Equinox creator, she had a hard time in 2024 due lack of industry work to the point of applying to regular jobs at a store warehouse.Dana saved her with KOG
>>156166969okay?why do you care?are you her cuck or something?
>>156160202I find it funny how they call this Dana's new show while ignoring the other two dudes that co-created it.
>>156160202Why mexicans love Dana so much? This is the third time in a row where she attends this thing
>>156167039kids just tend to think the creator is someone who makes the entire cartoon by themselves
>>156167049Pretty much thanks to Luz, if TOH was 1:1 the same show but Luz was a white girl they wouldn't love her or the show nearly as much, same reason they loved the Cyberpunk anime. Imagine a Dragon Ball with a spic protagonist..
>>156166866TADC and MD were planned as limited series by everyone involved. They didn't "burn out" and stop before 10 episodes because they got tired; this was part of the plan by the studio and creator. Maybe their popularity could have afforded them more seasons, but a creator not wanting to do more just for money is a strength, not a weakness. We have no official word that Glitch plans for long-running series, as Dana just said this out of the blue on her personal account, and not as an official announcement by Glitch. They may prefer the model they've had so far to 26-episode seasons. They're indie and don't have the same mindset as Hollywood studios. Besides, if Dana really wanted to do what "studios prefer," she would be working at another corporate studio by now instead of going indie. She has to play by their rules now.
>>156167049>>156167063They invite anyone to this who can say yes.
>>156167074So you agree with me, Glitch can make decisions that aren't based entirely on maximizing the money they make, not asking for more TADC makes no financial sense the same way asking for more KOG makes no financial sense (according to you)
>>156167049>>156167057>>156167091I find it funny they never invited the Big City Greens and Phineas And Ferb creators despite the latter being so popular at Mexico
>>156167124They definitely did, they just said no.
>>156167091They invited the Primos creator at one time and had to ask for extra security beacuse if someone was still bitter on her show
>>156167127Nah they had Swampy at a mexican con recently, Pixelatl is just a circlejerk for popular fandom shit hence why they only invite Dana yearly and GLITCH is the new popular thing in town.
>>156167103Making more of either show costs Glitch money. TADC now gets to coast on merch sales and miscellaneous items without having to pay for more episodes and hoping to get that money back. The show's popularity has not died down due to the lack of a S2, so now they get money for advertising deals like being in Fortnite or that Cookie game without having to invest in a full season 2. This applies to Murder Drones as well. And again, this was the PLAN for these shows; they were not meant to be multiple seasons long, so ending when they did was part of the plan with these series from the start, and it worked out for them. But making a S2 of any of their shows would be an investment. And they have yet to this day do that officially for any of their series. I'm not saying it's impossible, but that it's not a lock-in to invest in 26 episodes for a show that's performing worse than their other series with fewer episodes just because "Dana Terrance is really popular online". That's irrelevant, and it wouldn't be the first time she has had to end a series that she wanted to go on longer because the people at the top said no.
>>156167234Funny how you immediately contradicted yourself just to get the last word in
>>156166866Of Gooseworx, Zach and Dana only Dana has had a project that was prematurely canned by execs due to lack of success while the other two had the option to continue their work but chose not to. Being willing to mass produce content doesn't mean much to studios if nobody (outside of a very niche audience) is buying what you're selling.
>>156167245And yet people are complaining that all three were cut short and that they wanted more, and are in general complaining that indie series are too short at only 8-9 episodes, seems like Dana is the only one capable of providing the volume that the fans want yet you're singling her out negatively for it
>>156160202Wow, can't wait to finally see the thrilling conclusion when I'm fucking 50.
>>156160202>the small indie company HAS to give me more episodes or I can't tell my COMPLETE story :OHoly fuck these industry cunts are sick in the head.
>>156167244Keep telling yourself that, anon.
>>156167274>And yet people are complaining that all three were cut short and that they wanted moreOnly stupid losers who can't appreciate a story with a clear start, middle, and end.>and are in general complaining that indie series are too short at only 8-9 episodesAn incredibly small crowd that is definitely not hurting said limited shows viewership.>seems like Dana is the only one capable of providing the volume that the fans want yet you're singling her out negatively for itOr the only one delusional enough to believe she will get that treatment when she's already got her previous show cut for not being successful enough.
>>156167274We're not talking about what fans want though. This conversation is about what exec/studio decide to invest in, why are you pivoting? And fuck right off, you brought up Zach and Goose out of the blue, deriding them as "randos" who can't keep up with Dana's "showrunner experience" and now you're crying foul once I point out why she's the much less appealing investment to execs than those other two.
>>156160202Evergreen
>>156167384Says a lot about the artist that he put I Don't Wanna Be A Magical Girl despite it having no panic attacks and being a simple comedy.
>>156167063I'm pretty sure real world locations don't exist in Dragon Ball. It's an entirely different world from our own.
>>156167406C'mon man, we all know that Aika's gonna have some melodramatic PTSD style flashbacks to her time as a magical girl if those hidden battle scars are any indictation
>>156167467We don't know that for sure yet, so making a comic labeling it just like the other series which, to be fair, do all have panic attacks at the moment, is making assumptions. Maybe they will go very dramatic on that, or handle it differently. We don't know and that show's tone is way less dramatic than the other series portrayed there, so it's unfair to just assume it's gonna be the same.
>>156160202Thanks. I know you wanted to brainwash me with all the blue in your show, Dana, but I voted Red.
>>156167373No the conversation is explicitly about fans wanting more than 8 episodes per show and Dana being the only indie showrunner so far who showed both the readiness and the capability to provide that, as per the OP, I brought up Smiling Friends as an example of randos with no industry experience burning out even when they have the necessary work environment, pipelines, green lights etc to do a long show
>>156161240They are sonic.
>>156167445It has a China analogue and a Europe analogue and a Nazi Germany analogue, a South America analog wouldn't be a far cry
Like GLITCH will be around that long. I feel like that company will implode in on themselves before she can do half that amount and then she'll go to Kickstarter/Patreon to "help fund the ending, it'll cost 343545439583495834539 billion dollars but I'll really really really finish it you guys, pinky swear"
>>156164188The fuck do you mean rent free, she's the one talking about politics.
>>156166969>to the point of applying to regular jobs at a store warehouse.Jesus Christ, the horror…got chills up my spine reading that. Can’t imagine having to apply to a grocery store. It’s basically the modern day equivalent to prostitution.
>>156161484I GOT MY STAMP LEAVE ME BE
>>156167558She'll get 10 episodes, get pissy that they "only gave her" that amount (when it will be the longest Glitch show to that point), and then make a mediocre graphic novel about characters crying a lot, just like her previous work.She's an artist with fame and a reliable income, acting like a victim while thousands never get a foot in the industry. Revolting.
>>156160202>1 episode per year>26 episodesIs she stupid?
>>156167646Well, she's getting 3 episodes next year, but even at that pace, that's more than a decade to get "26 episodes" like she wants. It ain't getting all that.
>>156160588she looks like shiteven eyeballtank could design better characters
>>156167619
>>1561676573 episodes that were actually announced, the fact that they're pumping out one every three months could be a sign they got an efficient pipeline in the works and will be able to keep up that pace
>>156169110Even at that pace, 26 episodes are many more years of work. If it was 10 episodes max I can see it completing by 2028, which is what I think will happen regardless of how much more Dana wants to have.
>>156167537Sonicfags are such a cancer no wonder why SEGA wants to appeal to preschoolers than them
>>156167537weirdas all cartoons should be
>>156160202Before she brings in industry-standard length it would be better to have better ideas than “Disney is evil! No, I can't appeal to people out of bsky so I have no chance of attracting its audience but… IT’S EVIL! How dare it exist and employ me!”>>156160588The safest horny imaginableTrans headcanonable and all
>>156160202>bsky
Dana was supposed to be the chosen one...
>>156160202>26 episodes released over just as many years at the very least for the mid "I am le mad at yidsney" storyThat's worse.
>>156171012booI guess online ARTISTS will have to do the lewding
>>156166114There isn't nearly as much hype for autism comics, america has no culture for comics besides thinking they're lame
>>156166177>why did (business) hire (proven success with a loyal fandom)?Bottles the mind
>>156171324fair enough. ultimately indie creators are a slave to their consumers. I still really like webcomics though.
>>156171387I do too but it's a niche within a niche
And who's paying for all that shit?
>>156171414This is the kind of thing I imagine gooners draw and beat off to before they realize Japan exists and has hentai
>>156171438America has it's own hentai. It is called twitter, and tumblr artists.
>>156166912She was making a Witch show but Netflix cancelled it.
>>156160202The fucking hubris of this bitch. How the fuck can you even take 24 episodes to tell this story of a garbage theme park?Is she just going to do some Steven universe Townie shit where everyone is just going to get a focus episode of two that focuses on anything Also good luck hoping that Glitch is both gonna be around this long AND is going to keep funnelling resources to you.
>>1561717538 episodes of actual story progression and 18 episodes of filler and fluff.
>auteur delusionMANY SUCH CASES! SAD!
>>156171012>Beach episode>It's a nightmarish episode where Frankie and Andi have to witness Sparky tossing some dissidents into the toxic ocean under the floating theme parks>Gwen thinks it's a fun day at the beach
>>156171753Just because SU botched it doesn't mean episodic adventures can't be fun. There's nothing wrong with 26 episodes on paper, it just feels annoying if we're only getting "filler" over the course of several years.
>>156171862>on papernewsflash, budbudgetit's HORRID even on paper and terrace is having a manic episode
>>156171862>There's nothing wrong with 26 episodes on paper, it just feels annoying if we're only getting "filler" over the course of several years.But that's exactly what we're going to get here Did you see the release schedule of Digital Circus? It's going to be ages to actually get this shit done because not only is their funding cycle pretty shit but they're going to be spreading resources between their two 2D projects of Gameoverse and then Knights and that's hoping that they don't pick up another project that is going to be 2D because I bet Dana is expecting to monopolize all of the resources once the cat shits over with.
>>156171887>newsflash, bud>budgetnot my problemrather have my money given to cartoons than bombs
>>156171932>not my problemyours, noglitch's, and by extension, hers, yes
>>156171985so long as they sell merch to produce cartoons it is not their problem either
>>156171999>the money will surely come foreverare you dana? get the hell off /co/
>>156171887>>156171919Only zoomers want a show to release instantly complete so they can binge it over the weekend, talk about it online for a few days, then forget about it and go back to doomscrolling tiktok while always referring to the show as something they love even though they barely remember it.
>>156172004>are you dana?sadly no...>get the hell of /co/I'm trying...
>>156172015first anon here, that has nothing to do with what i said
>>156172004Bro that's literally glitch's entire strategy
>>156172041none of their non-smg4 spinoff shows tried to last anywhere near 26 episodes long
are there any theories what to expect in episode 3? knew characters to be introduced? maybe spend an episode covering the antagonist's point of view?
>>156172040Change your argument so I can be right then
How does Dana plan to extend the plot up to 26 episodes? The whole "fixing Gwen" thing doesn't seem like, it will last more than a couple of episodes, and besides, I don't think Olivia will just fuck around and do nothing for almost the entire show.
>>156172058>there can't be a first time for everything
>>156172165We have not even gotten the 4 episode leeway it takes to commit to a show yet. WE have until April of next year for that to happen. We have at least HALF A YEAR for the next 2 episodes to drop and convince us it should have 26 episodes.
>>156172165One way to find out!
Great, I hate 8-9 episodes show.TADC was big but it seems they lost the love for it after the finale
>>156172760Blame it's mentally unwell online fandom.
>>156165688That's not very Christian of you
>>156168365
>>156173294this is how I see incels on pollol
>>156173533Rent free
>>156173555they do! the literally cannot think about anything besides trannie penisespol is the gayest board that isn't /lgbt/
>>156173992Ok.
sex with this bad bitch
>>156160202I did go vote, but you wish I didn't.
>>156174763>a 10 in bongland Miss me with this slag
>>156160202
>>156160202Based!
>>156160821>More TOH booksWat?
>>156174763Bro. No. Like, seriously no. Regardless of what you think of her as a person and an animator.
>>156174763Yes
>>156176111The TOH book seems to be success and in a signing small event for the toh book she said pic related.
>>156174763Nice try But you won't make me fail NNN.
