Haha, how fucking subtle of you shen
in reality, the other two "sheep" are also wolves in costumes and the entire thing is a circlejerk to stave off the inevitable rope
>>156211070>the femboy in his comic is now transits only appeal, gone
>>156211070Okay, now make a sequel where the wolf grooms lambs.
Wait a minuteAre we looking at the next Sinfest
>>156211070Reminder Shen is has been trapped in ultra conservative conversion therapy for months and these comics are a cry for help and nobody is listening and just screaming "egg egg egg" over and over.
His new comic is so gay
>>156211070Funny thing about the gender interpretation: As a kid I successfully convinced a group of girls online I was a girl and went straight back to seeking to be ultra manly a couple years later.Some people are just built different. I had what Shen is still obsessed with today and it was just one step of my epic journey.That’s why I find looking at the trans obsessions of his fanbase and others so stupid, since even if they got it it wouldn’t be anywhere as meaningful as Shen or others actually telling good stories.
>>156211070I wish a flock of sheep accepted me as their own and we danced in meadows where I meet my sheep wife.
>>156211070Bikecuck did a 360 and walked out of his cuck phase. He's embraced the love of being a submissive cute boy.I'd happily cuddle with that qt.
>>156211387>Guy is an autogynophileExplains a lot
>>156211070This is cute though.
>>156211070For a comic that's basically a crossdressing gag, there seems to be an awful lot of psychoanalysis going on in this thread.
>>156211656/co/ - Armchair Psychology & Politics
>>156211070The funny thing about using wolf in sheep's clothing as a Trans allegory is that the phrase is literally about something dangerous hiding behind something seen as harmless. Funny ain't it.
>>156211070Why does his art look like that?
>>156211070Post Shen's femboy
>>156211756>he doesn't know
>>156211767oh sorry, post Shen's "woman"
lol
>>156211805lmao even
>>156211355Shen laughs at himself and hasn't 180'd on his views.
>>156211387Remind us again why you're not allowed to be alone with your niece
>>156211126thanks for this anon, I needed it
>>156211805>>156211814>men can't be good people>men can't be femininebravo shen
>>156211283This is one of the reasons why the most deeply mentally ill troons clock out if they do get bottom surgery btwThe guys who are into them are chick w' dick fetishists and immediately lose interest in axe wounds
>>156211814femboys should get more angry about stuff like this
>I am a predator entering a space for my victims>They are intimidated into coddling me so I don’t hurt them>I am now getting off to thisThe trans experience
>>156211917Their whole thing is enforcing strict gender roles. If a man or a woman (mainly a man since this shit is an MRA movement) does anything remotely outside of traditional masculine stereotypes they must be female
>>156211547I didn’t do it by intention, I did it because they believed I was one and so went along with that assumption.I’m naturally inclined to go along with what people expect which is why it’s funny when the animation community assumed I only liked NewBob Epic Wacky Faces.>>156211656I do so because he’s gone more into this obsession lately.>>156211871You bet your whole life on trans stuff being popular forever and lost the bet years ago.
I think this guy has a humiliation fetish.
>>156211547Evidence for this piles up the more you read his articles and stories, but he comes up with a bunch of excuses for why it's ok for him to think and write things that he'd condemn others for.
>>156211917literally what "he" mean by this
>>156212271>comic goes from men can be good, gentle, and kind to good men want to be women and hate other men
Chuddies are trying really hard to get a controversy out of this lol
>>156211917>>156212049Do you know how many MTFs transition after years of trying to convince themselves it's ok to be a man before realizing that will never work to combat their dysphoria and disgust with their own body? >Their whole thing is enforcing strict gender roles. If a man or a woman (mainly a man since this shit is an MRA movement) does anything remotely outside of traditional masculine stereotypes they must be femaleYour side is always insisting that MTFs aren't women because they're not feminine enough and constantly reducing them as a collective to stereotypes of being hypermasculine in all of the worst ways possible. How is that not enforcing strict gender roles?
>>156212404i was invested in a cute femboy story and now its the same buzz lightyear toy as any other trans comic from bluesky
>>156212366He doesn’t hate men really though. He wants men to be able to define what a woman is and dictate their rights because of a fetish. It’s all performative pretence.
>>156212420calm down shen i didnt say any of that shit
>>156212433It was established early on that the femboy is at odds with his identity and how society perceives him, dumbass lol Now you're just trying too hard to seem surprised
>>156212420Why don’t most of them remove the most male part of them, their dick, if they’re so dysphoric? Why do they get aroused dressing up if that’s just being “normal” to them? I say they’re not women because they’re men, maintain male behavior (such as their rates of sexual offences) and that you can’t just undo your DNA by larping as a man’s idea of a feminine stereotype. I’m not the one saying men can’t be into “feminine” things and vice versa, you are the one saying that if a man performs some sort of stereotype he’s female. There’s a reason 4chan, a website catering massively to male sexuality, has been a sort of ground zero for this crap. Stop being disingenuous.
>>156212438You sound like you have a fetish for making up people's fetishes.
>>156212456he introduces himself as a man
>>156212469Yes, I have a fetish for making an intellectual point about males obviously attempting to assert control over the definition of female in order to destroy boundaries and live out a fantasy. No way I came to this conclusion by just observing these people. You on the other hand definitely do not have a fetish, even though the entire movement you are defending is made up of porn addicted men. Grow up.
anyone defending this is shen
>>156211070post the rest of the sheep comic. its funny
>>156211070No...say it ain't so...did it finally happen? He finally confirmed what we all saw coming? It's all over?
>>156211805>>156211814
>>156211126you are away this comic continues right?
>>156211070FYI, your hatred of "ZE TRANNIES" cost you the midterms loser.
>>156212420Not everyone has dysphoria man.
>>156212818I for one don't live in Israel's vassal state that is Shartmerica and welcome its accelerated downfallThe sight of rabid shitskins tearing zogged trannoids apart in the streets will certainly be a thing to behold
>>156212818bro your bike??????
>>156212420I'm not anti-trans.My problem is the weird enforcement of gender roles from both sides.I feel like back in the day it was more accepted for men or women to not conform 100% to gender roles, but at some point when the trans movement became kinda big, the idea that all men or women who dabbled in traditionally feminine/masculine things HAVE TO be trans started to become bigger.I'm not saying that there isn't some overlap, because there obviously is, but it's also not always the case, and all it does is push the idea that men cannot be feminine and still be men, they have to be trans women, or the other way around, that women can't just be masculine women, they have to be trans.
>>156212818I don't think that's why it happened, but go off.
So what if this isn't about trannies but some "based" misanthrope trying to infiltrate a leftists space and finding it much more pleasurable company
>>156212957Since Audrey is a trans woman now, that implies the title applies to Val. Being good at video games and wearing pants are for men only, ladies!
>>156212420Shut up, it's a mental illness.
>>156212420The point we are making is men can be feminine without being women.
>>156212091>I didn’t do it by intention, I did it because they believed I was one and so went along with that assumption.Do you even realize how close this sounds to the constant agp fetish grooming allegations against trannies and queers?
>>156212818I’m left leaning and don’t like troons at all. If anything it’s a mill stone around our neck having to be associated with ghouls who think men ought to dominate any sort of space women have carved out for themselves. You know this though, since TRAs spend most of their time attacking feminists rather than right wing men.
>>156212462>Why don’t most of them remove the most male part of them, their dick, if they’re so dysphoric?I just spent some time doing more reading about this. I can't speak for all of them, but I can give some reasons. First, the amount of hoops that one has to jump through before being able to schedule the surgery. Even some of the most genitally dysphoric MTFs I've seen haven't gotten bottom surgery years into their transition for this reason. Some of them can't get it because of price and/or not being able to afford the recovery time interfering with their work schedules, or a pre-existing medical condition prevents them. There's some who fear the surgery because it's painful, or the fear that the surgery will be botched and/or having undesirable side effects and leaving them feeling worse than before. There's some of them who really aren't dysphoric over the male genitalia as long as it's not externally visible to others, or the dysphoria goes down from how HRT alters the functioning of their genitals. Some MTFs have transmedicalist beliefs that an MTF isn't "true trans" unless they have bottom surgery or are planning to, but the ideological justification that the mainstream trans community uses to defend those who don't get bottom surgery is that people aren't defined by their genitals.>Why do they get aroused dressing up if that’s just being “normal” to them?If they do then they stop getting aroused as time goes on once it becomes normal to them and no longer a novelty. This has actually been extensively discussed both in their communities and research about them. >you are the one saying that if a man performs some sort of stereotype he’s m.I never did, but you're obsessed with making assumptions about people so that you have reasons to get mad at them.>4chan, a website catering massively to male sexuality, has been a sort of ground zero for this crap. What do you mean by this? Are you blaming 4chan for the rise of the trans movement?
>>156212818It's more like they had nothing else to campaign on because trump did the opposite of every reason people had to vote for him.They lost because they forced themselves into the same trap democrats have been stuck in for the past 15 years, where they're fixating on niche culture war shit instead of issues that actually matter to people who aren't indian bot accounts on twitter.
I feel bad for Shen because the guy was very obviously groomed by the internet over the last 10 years to get gender dysphoria(literally EVERY single time he posted there was mountains of people getting hundreds of thousands of likes being like "DUDE YOU'RE TRANS, JUST ADMIT IT, YOU MUST HATE BEING A MAN RIGHT? JUST TRANSITION ALREADY!!!!!") and then when he admitted he started going to therapy because this stuff obviously was getting to him, they all started patting themselves on the back like "YES, WE FINALLY GOT HIM TO ADMIT IT!!!! SHE WAS ALWAYS ON OUR SIDE, SHE FINALLY CRACKED!!!!!!"
>>156212818I voted blue nigga, I just hate how some people have gone so woke that they've came out the other way unintentionally being sexist.
>>156213062It sounds like>I swear I didn't choose to be this way! I was feminized by someone else and now I can't undo it!
>>156213081Stop grooming people, my guy.
>>156213091If shen unironically was groomed into it by the internet then he deserves it for spending years making comics teasing his transition and monetizing them. At some point a grown adult has to take responsibility for his own choices.
>>156212420No, men hate themselves because women bitch about toxic masculinity then call a man pathetic when he isn't a violent psychopath.Just leave men the fuck alone, man.
is it just me or the art also got downgraded?
>>156213181HRT starting to damage his brain
>>156213081Listen to yourself. You aren’t defined by your genitals, but at the same time, plenty of people get dysphoric over their genitals? You aren’t defined by your genitals, but for some reason removing them is affirming, but at the same time not removing the most blatantly male part of you is also affirming. Have you considered instead of this wall of nonsense, that their penis is the centre of their fetish? That’s why they don’t remove it? That some men enjoy the feeling of bringing their penis into spaces for women? But of course not, no man has ever behaved like that! >If they doThey repeatedly say that they do. Women don’t do this. Women don’t get aroused at getting dressed in the morning. Men who think women and anything associated with them are the object of a fetish do. >reasons to get mad at themLook at this please:https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-questions/detail/2024-12-16/20298>62% of trans convicts committed sex crimes>It’s 16% for normal men for the prison population Should this not concern me? Should I ignore this? Should I ignore how men ranked in the hundreds in their own sports categories suddenly go to the top ten entering the women’s league? Should I ignore the doxxing, death and rape threats spammed constantly over twitter to terfs? Should I ignore women’s shelters being fire bombed in canada for not letting men inside? Should I ignore women being sued for millions in australia for not letting men use a lesbian dating app? Should I ignore women in france being ARRESTED for saying to be “wary of penised individuals” in changing rooms? Why do you ignore all of this stuff and pretend I am concerned for no reason? Do you think if you do that, these concerns will just stop existing? Why do men’s feelings on this issue matter so much more to you than any woman who might be uncomfortable with it?>blaming 4chanI am noticing a correlation between dens of porn addicted sexist men and trans.
>>156212420Sure, and when an anorexic person hates their body and thinks they're fat when they're clearly not, we should TOTALLY just let them keep throwing up because that's what their brain wants.You fucking idiot.
it was never high art but i feel ike this was more pleasant to look atthis was 2018
>>156212420Na, most are autogynephilics who consumed too much porn and are now freaks forcing others to partake in their fetish
>>156212957pretty much the sane take on it
2016
>>156211070So how long until this guy openly troons out?
>>156212507>males obviously attempting to assert control over the definition of femaleAnd females attempting to subvert the definition of male, right? No, wait, that's a Good Thing™ and always has been...
>>156212420MtFs aren't women because they have a penis
>>156212818People overwhelmingly hate troons and immigrants. The Republicans lost because of the Iran war and bad messaging on economics.
>>156213268did you not see this >>156211805>>156211814
my fag is showing but i think the character is cuter as a scruffy twink getting gang raped by a bunch of colorful muscular blobs with text on their chest than as a weirdo girl with creepy anime eyes talking about how much men suck
>>156212079>Their whole thing is enforcing strict gender rolesThen they wouldn't be subverting them.>this shit is an MRA movementYes, normalizing the castration of men is doing a lot for the rights of men.>does anything remotely outside of traditional masculine stereotypes they must be femaleHence, the subversion: instead of treating autogynephiles like failed men and autoandrophiles like failed women, as they both are, they have their fetishes catered to by the same people who thought letting uppity holes control the Government was a good idea.
>>156213181Yeah, that's how I feel too. His older works were simple but looked better. I'm not a fan of the thick lines on his new stuff, it looks lazy.
>>156211805>>156211814this is the same artist? >>156213244 what the fuck happened to his art
>>156211371>[Andrew Tsyaston] has been trapped in ultra conservative conversion therapy for monthsThen it's clearly not doing a good job.
>>156211805>>156211814>>156211830Maybe anime really was the problem after all>>156213516>Now Harold/Industrycuck/CCschizo is hereWell, it was a good thread guys
>>156213516How does that even work? They're allowed to use the internet? Then it will go nowhere
>>156213235>You aren’t defined by your genitals, but at the same time, plenty of people get dysphoric over their genitals? You aren’t defined by your genitals, but for some reason removing them is affirming,The point of the non-transmedicalist trans community's rhetoric isn't to promote a single rigid system of logic but rather to accommodate the diverse experiences of individuals and their personal feelings about their body. >not removing the most blatantly male part of you is also affirming.This part wasn't even in my post but you have to pretend it was because you can't go one post without hallucinating like chatGPT.>>If they do>They repeatedly say that they do.Yes indeed many of them do. Now read the rest of the sentence.>Why do you ignore all of this stuff and pretend I am concerned for no reason?I don't ignore all of the toxicity and crimes and you shouldn't either, but I also don't ignore the vast population of civilized trannies who I don't think deserve to be framed as evil perverts for things they didn't do. I believe in the protection of sex-based female only spaces, but I don't believe that all MTFs should be barred from existing publicly out of the closet since that would mean the unjust punishment of plenty of perfectly nice people I've known and met.
>>156212818I'm no yankee
>>156213534>Harold/Industrycuck/CCschizoPlease, share some more names you made up in lieu of an argument.>Well, it was a good thread guysWas it?>>156213546Hence, "not doing a good job."
>>156211656>basically a crossdressing gagBugs Bunny is a crossdressing gag, and gay.This is trooning.
>>156213557>rhetoric isn't to promote a single rigid system of logic but rather to accommodate the diverse experiences of individuals and their personal feelings about their body.This is a god damn lieThey're literally muddied the waters of the definition of gender. Since forever gender was literally sex, but now it's some magical term based on stereotypes.If it was actually about their personal feelings they wouldn't be forcing their ideology onto others.
>>156213635>If it was actually about their personal feelings they wouldn't be forcing their ideology onto others.Feminism is all about women's feelings, and that's an ideology that can't help but force itself onto others, including its fetish-cult allies.
>>156213557Yes, accommodate all varieties of men who define womanhood by their (often sexual) feelings, don’t question them, just accept that they could not possibly have an ulterior or bad faith motive and that people simply need to roll over and accept what they say. Don’t try to question the logic. Ok.>read the restI don’t need to. You conceded that this is a fetish for them, and female is part of their costume for it. That should be enough to set off alarm bells for you. >don’t deserve to be framed as evilI am not saying this. I am saying, these things, especially the rate of sex crimes they commit, is enough for some caution in just deciding to abolish female exclusive spaces and categories on their behalf. But these men don’t do that, they push constantly for this abolition of boundaries knowing these things, because they don’t care. I cannot fathom an altruistic motive for reducing the female sex to the assertions of men, who you yourself admit, are far more likely to commit sex crimes and who experience arousal from dressing up- and who want to define what a woman is based on these feelings. >I believe in the protection of sex-based female only spacesThen we don’t really disagree. I don’t hate gender non conforming men, I want people to dress and behave however they want. My issue is their legal identification as women, which is and will continue to put women in harms way. Most TRAs will not compromise on this issue because they simply do not care.
>>156213635They only force their ideology onto others insomuch as they want their identity to be respected. The average trans person has no interest in trying to make you redefine genders based on stereotypes, usually they're trying to do the opposite and trying to make the definition of gender as wide as possible to be all inclusive.
i just want a cute hetero femboy comic
>>156213714>They only force their ideology onto others insomuch as they want their identity to be respectedthat's a filthy lie. They want to radically change what is and isn't considered a man or woman.>The average trans person has no interest in trying to make you redefine genders based on stereotypeswho the fuck cares what the average one is doing while 10 more are pushing their beliefs onto others, and threaten to cancel anyone who goes against their cult> usually they're trying to do the opposite and trying to make the definition of gender as wide as possible to be all inclusiveSo they are trying to change definitions, that's not some small thing, it's a massive issue.Most trans people are either groomed into, or are porn addicts.
>>156213714>They only force their ideology onto others insomuch as they want their identity to be respectedFar too much in either case, then.
>>156213745>Most trans people are either groomed into, or are porn addicts.Only "most"?
>>156211126That was a Far side joke.
>>156213462no idea
>>156213708>men who define womanhood by their (often sexual) feelings,>I cannot fathom an altruistic motive for reducing the female sex to the assertions of men,You still seem to have a hard time separating "I identify as a woman and this is how I present" with "this is how I define all women" and I don't think you'll ever have a non-one dimensional view of trans identified men until that changes.>I don’t need to.This isn't a good habit to be in. Thinking that you know enough to not consider a topic in further detail makes you limit yourself.>especially the rate of sex crimes they commit,While I don't want to downplay the widespread issue of these men committing sex crimes, the article you shared doesn't actually give a good indication of what their rate of committing sex crimes actually is because it only measures the rate of sex offenses among prisoners rather than the general population.
>>156213714>They only force their ideology onto others insomuch>trying to make the definition of gender as wide as possibleRemoved the pretty HR words
>>156213921On your first point, because they say “I am a woman”, not “I present as a woman”. They are making a claim about the female sex by doing this. For your second point, I really don’t in this case. The fact that it is so common for these “women” to experience sexual arousal from doing normal things shows that their conception of female is inherently sexual and so giving them the ability to speak on behalf of women (which they do by invading women’s organisations constantly) is an obvious conflict of interest. >articleIt’s government data. And it does. If in the average male prison population, 18% or so of men there are incarcerated for sexual crimes, we can derive from this that in about 1/5 of criminal men the motive is sex. The massively, massively over represented number for trans identified males tells us that there is a way higher propensity for these men to commit those kinds of crimes. All I am saying then, is that we should be very, very hesitant saying “go into any woman’s shelter or prison you want”. My point is that it is a tiny minority of TRAs who would ever suggest this, because they don’t care that it’s happening.
>>156211070
>>156213714You need to talk with these people more. It’s not uncommon for them to say they’re “more woman than cis women” because they dress like anime porn stereotypes and act like it. They absolutely equate being female to acting out stereotypes and a lot of them actively get off on being subject to “sexism” while in their cosplay. They aren’t saying that male and female aren’t binary, they’re saying female is defined by behavior.
>>156214090God I'm so tired of this inoffensive "awu I'm totally cute" coming from men. It just screams sex pest to me
>>156214111Kind of like neil gaiman and joss whedon etc
>>156212271Mental derangement
>>156212438>He doesn’t hate men really thoughNo, then the only issue you'd have with him is that he's a man. My issue with him is that he listened to your feminist dreck about men and now look at him.
>>156212818>bro give me your most online take:
hes trooning everyone fucking called it out and he tried to deny it kek
>>156212818Honestly, I don't think that's what did it. Make no mistake, it made SOME impact, but anyone who would have bee swayed by that had already made their choice because of: The War, Gas, Trump, Cost of Living, or The Epstein files.
>>156214062>They are making a claim about the female sex by doing this.Which is that they're a part of it, not that they represent all of it. Your logic relies on these grown adults being unable to possibly understand that women aren't wholly defined by their thoughts, despite you not seeming to believe that this applies to all males. What's the neurological distinction that prevents these males from forming the same thoughts that the rest of the sex can?>The fact that it is so common for these “women” to experience sexual arousal from doing normal thingsThings that aren't normal for them personally. If those things become normal, it stops causing sexual arousal and so it functionally goes from being a sexual fetish to just a habit. That they keep up these habits even if it no longer arouses them suggests that they provide a psychological comfort apart from arousal, and is therefore more than just a typical fetish.>And it does. If in the average male prison population, 18% or so of men there are incarcerated for sexual crimes, we can derive from this that in about 1/5 of criminal men the motive is sex. The massively, massively over represented number for trans identified males tells us that there is a way higher propensity for these men to commit those kinds of crimes.It suggests that, but the only way to confirm it is to compare the percentages of sex offenders when the entire population is counted, not just the prisoners. Otherwise there's the possibility that they don't commit sex offenses at a higher rate, they just commit other crimes at a lower rate.>>156214110I do talk to them more, and that's how I know that the stereotyped portrayal that the anti-trans crowd presents doesn't actually apply to a majority of them.
>>156213888Well far side did it as a joke. Shin did it for the gay message.
>>156211283bruh what, this is why he changed his persona to female back then?? retarded, I guess I should expect this after seeing wtf was happening with some Vlad guy or wtf was this guy name
>>156211283>the [autogynephile] in his comic is now [still an autogynephile]If this had "appeal" to you before, you have no reason to complain now.
>>156214422But femboys are our greatest allies against the trans menace. There's no one who hates trans more than the femboy true believers.
>>156214463>[autogynephiles] are our greatest alliesThen we're fucked, if our best hope is controlled opposition.
>>156213888>transbian convention
>>156211830Are they sentient? Is this a gimmick restaurant where you have to kill the food yourself? Why is the sauce solid? The twink is a little hot.
>>156213062I don’t see how considering that it went off an assumption and they talked about normal girl stuff.This was 00s internet before trans stuff became a big thing.
>>156214422>>156214501Lmao, your typing style is so obvious across threads.
>>156214661And?
>>156214665Learn to integrate a little more.
>>156214661>[...]Never trusted anons who use this ever since
>>156214343I’m sorry but you are being disingenuous here. If they argue they are part of it, they are arguing they as men define what it is… you can’t respect boundaries without recognising distinction. As soon as a man claims he belongs to the female sex he has abolished any ability for women to differentiate or separate themselves from him. There’s no real getting around this, a man saying “i’m female” is colonisation. I also never defined female by thoughts, biology does that, DNA does that. It influences everything else which is why TIMs behave and act like men, but that’s not what makes them men, their biology does that. >things that aren’t normalWhat you are describing is someone having reduced sensitivity from repeatedly indulging a fetish (which often ends in escalation). No normal person is ever aroused by wearing clothes even once, only people who have an inherently sexual (male) idea of the opposite sex do this. Then you argue these men can speak on women’s behalf. I don’t really care if it comforts them, it’s not women’s role to give up what they are or any sort of boundaries to make a man feel good- that’s what this movement is about, women losing things to make men feel good. >when the entire population is countedThey are less than like 1% of the entire population. The fact that like 60% of them, whenever they commit a crime, are raping, downloading child porn or sexually harassing or stalking, actually does say a lot. It says that compared to the average male population in the UK, they are far more sexually motivated since they are in proportion to their small population way more likely to commit a sex crime rather than any other crime >I do talk to themI have had one tell me to my face that his male puberty was worse than rape because rape is “easily fixed” by therapy. He didn’t even realise what he was saying. Telling me this guy should be able to speak on behalf of women is insane, sorry.
>>156214527KEK!
It cannot be understated how ugly and low effort Shen's art looks now compared to 2016.
>>156214111Oh come on! That one was funny!
>>156214857Not really, now give me the sheep getting pregnant
>>156214343>I do talk to them moreYou talk to yourself in the mirror?
>>156214727it's so weird because it's not like it was exactly pretty back then either
>>156214699>They are less than like 1% of the entire population.0.2% or fewer in the UK and that's after 1 or more decades of propaganda converting men and women to it
holy shit did bike cuck cut off his dick???
>>156212420>Your side is always insisting that MTFs aren't women because they're not feminine enough"femininity" has nothing to do with them not being a woman, the dick and balls they have is the issue and no lopping it off won't help
>>156215158He got robbed off his balls, but he's happier that it might be of use to someone else
>>156215158Guess that’s why he puts so many canines in his comic, he identifies with being neutered.
>>156215158A woman lost her bathroom stall today, but I figured, I’m probably more happy to use it than she is to lose it. So, whatever.
>>156215344Evil Shen is reverse-cucking? Did he grow balls right after losing it?
>>156212420How do you not see the fucking irony you dumb fucking faggot? Trans people push this idea of social standard feminity defining sex because they know if they don't it's an admission that transgenderism is a fraud.
>>156212818iran did and it's not even close
>>156215173And wearing pants doesn't make women men, either, so they should stop that too.
Looks like this is the designated half-assed stealth /pol/thread.
>>156215800It had been bike-cuck hate thread
>>156213258Also 2016
>>156211070Don't forget you will never be the little girl.
>>156211070Four days.
>The fact that like 60% of them, whenever they commit a crime,This phrasing relies on the assumption that the 60% of them who are prisoners represent 60% of the entire population. About 8.5% of total male prisoners in the UK are serving homicide sentences. Does this mean that 8.5% of all males in the UK are liable to commit homicide at any time? I sure hope not, but I can't verify for sure. What I'm confident in believing based on my experiences is that while a lot of dangerous pervert TIMs exist and they're not adequately being kept in check, I believe that they make up far lower than 60% of the total population.>that’s what this movement is about, women losing things to make men feel good.Continuing to treat FTMs as if they don't even exist or don't need to be acknowledged as part of the trans community because they're all just passive little victims is reinforcing patriarchal gender norms by the way. "They're female, so we shouldn't take them seriously. If they have dissenting viewpoints, they're just confused pawns of their male masters."I don't think that trans identified males should speak for women either, but your definition of what counts as an unacceptable level is probably broader than mine. For example, if they define "woman" in a way that includes them, I don't really count that as speaking for women since that's not a claim about how real women (what they call "cis") think or act.
>>156216042>a lot of dangerous pervert [autogynephiles] existAll of them, same for autoandrophiles.
>>156215913>no I wanted the other geriatric who hates me to be elected!Why do people make these "jokes"? Just because you're a gay artist doesn't mean your viewers will also be faggots
>>156216157>>no I wanted the other geriatric who hates me to be elected!He believed that Hillary would enact more of the anti-human policies that he clearly still supports ten years later. It's the Friend-Enemy Distinction, and he is enemies with the world and reproduction.
>>156211805>>156211814I'm a repper and this is eerily spot on. He's going to troon out in the next 2 years.
>>156211355Or the next stonetoss. They should do a collab comic one day.
>>156211126no, but there is an elephant in a sheep costume
>>156214111All troons are sex pests, that's why libtards like Shen knowingly cultivate a troon audience.
>>156211070read the full thing here: https://e621.net/posts/5584983?pool_id=48536
>>156215936>you will never be the little girl.I have always been the little girl.
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He’s gone native!
If the sheep women are hot, I can excuse going native
>>156212818the under budget schools that cant afford pencils are giving our kids 800,000$ sex changes!
>>156211805He looks better with the beard.
>>156216042>can't link a post properlyYou lost, dog.>>156214699I win.
I don't think this guy has a single intention with his content beyond getting the biggest response possible. Same with the bike cuck shit, I don't think that's how he really felt but he'd misjudged what the reaction would actually be. He was probably hoping people would pat him on the back for his positive outlook and how wholesome he was
>>156217141>I don't think this guy has a single intention with his content beyond getting the biggest response possiblePerfect candidate for a cult inductee, in other words.
>>156217141It's this, and we know it for a fact because he tells us it himself lol, see picrelShen isn't trans. The premise of this little sub-comic is that the two MCs are a) a man-hating femcel and b) a man-hating femboi. the joke is that it's an absurd relationship.Shen always steps on rakes with the LGBT community and really only cares about maximizing money over much else. this one is starting to get a lot of heat because "real" MTF are fighting with non-passing MTF and gender-non-conforming males and a probably a dozen other subgroups and they're all angry Shen keeps changing how the femboy is presented. he'll drop it soon, then it's on to the next hot internet thing
>>156217157Shut up harold
>>156212818this, but they'll never learn their lesson
>>156215936>>156216870>I want to be the little girlReally helped fuck me up as a kid by making me think that wanting to be a girl was a totally normal thought all boys had all the time.
>>156217249Got another made-up name for me?
>>156214463You don't beat faggots by siding with the ones that are marginally less faggoty about being a fag.
>>156212818Nah, republicans are just retarded and still controlled opposition because the Israel-first neocons are still in charge of the party and spent the past two years doing fuck all and got rightly dickslapped for it. Shit is going to keep flipflopping because the dems are also still run by out of touch boomers, they're just more ruthless when they get ahold of the levers of power. Trump was a rejection of Obama era policies, then he got rejected in favor of Biden because of how the coof was handled, then he got brought back because Biden was straight up senile, now it's his turn on the merry go round because again he did fuck all except listen to his retarded advisors who pushed for yet another retarded middle eastern conflict. The dems are gonna fuck up because they'll believe this will give them a mandate for their retarded bullshit and when they overreach and don't fix shit it will be the next dude's turn all while it's a race to the bottom because fucking no one actually wants to make shit work.
>>156217234>when you've finally found the fucker who has stolen your bike, but you must be subjected to a humiliation ritual to get it back
>>156212818Democracy is a sham. We shall overthrow it and kill off 90% of humanity; creating ai to oversee the remaining 9.99% while the rest live like gods.
>>156212818If Emperor of Man hasn't already overthrown this democratic cesspool and establish a global fascist state, then there's wouldn't be a midterms and all of the Troons Fags Dykes Niggers and Jews become the Lowly slaves as they should've been to begin with.
>>156217234audrey is pretty clear a closeted(?) m2f
>>156216859>>156216911Grooming the comic?
Shen did respond to the eggbaiting allegations years ago.https://www.tumblr.com/shencomix/774165500989194240/hey-yall-i-wanted-to-write-a-quick-post
>>156211805>>156211814Full: https://www.tumblr.com/shencomix/832551795015450624/this-is-the-boy-from-venus-21
>>156211371He's just baiting troonfaggotry without committing to it like the limp-wrist he's always been
>>156212818No, it was because of starting another middle eastern forever war at the behest of Israel. Even George fucking Bush refused to go to war with Iran.
>>156211805Ah so it's not a tranny, just a femboy facing twink death
>>156212420bruh just let off the hypno sissy porn
>>156218293yesthat's the point of that comicit's a genderswapped 4chan neet and an optimistic femboy
>>156218293>Ah so it's not a tranny, just a trannymany such cases
>>156217561Yes you do, idiot
>>156218390Yeah I realize now, it's just hard to tell when people only ever post this one chapter without context.
>>156218441shen has all the subtlety of a wrecking ball and yet anons still don't understandit's bizarre
>>156218293He doesn't have to worry about twink death because he's in a wish fulfillment comic about having an unrealistically perfect life.
>>156211703Every piece of "art" since 2019 made by SHEN is always dysphoria and trans. Trans have beards and hairy legs because biological men has beards and hairy legs.
>>156218567When he's old and gray he'll just turn into a little old lady.
>>156218403>I don't know what words mean
>>156212420Has anyone else noticed how it’s always MALE-to-Female trans who are the most obnoxious people possible? You barely ever hear about FEMALE-to-Man
>>156218850>Has anyone else noticed how it’s always [autogynephiles] who are the most obnoxious people possible?>You barely ever hear about [autoandrophiles]Because it's good when women do it, even when it's the exact same thing that some men are doing for the exact same reason. Watch, I'm sure a Joanne Rowling simp is going to jump out any second and say exactly that.
>>156218980I had dinner with JK Rowling last week.
>>156218850When you inject female hormones, you take on (some) female emotional responsesWhen you inject male hormones, you take on (some) male emotional responsesHence FTMs tend to be less fucking crazy.And by FTMs i mean the ones who grow beards, get male pattern baldness, etc. Not the "enbies" who are just fujos who decide to cut their hair short.Obviously the meat-sausage ones are exempt from this. They are batshit too.
>>156213294>and immigrantsLol, why they protest against ICE then?
>>156219068>[autoandrophiles] tend to be less fucking crazyIt's the same psychosexual illness as autogynephiles.
>>156216042No, it means males are far more likely to commit homicide than women when comparing incarceration rates for the same offences, which the study does if you bothered to read it. TIMs commit sex crimes at not only a higher rate than women but the average man. It’s an insane over representation. >while a lot of dangerous pervert TIMs exist This is all I wanted to say. If this bothers you, you are not the kind of person I am arguing with. But the vast majority of TRAs don’t care about this and won’t acknowledge it because rape is a cost they are willing to pay for men’s feelings. That’s my point. If you understand this I am not massively having an issue with you. It’s fine to support individuals who identify as trans, it’s when you carte blanche support everything their movement broadly asks for. >FTMsI’m sure if you’re honest and have interacted with MTFs you’d know nobody abuses and hates them more than MTFs. My annoyance with FTMs is that they can see that male troons blatantly hate them, demean and belittle them constantly, and they still act like handmaidens for them. But in any case, they don’t pose the same threat to men that men pose to women.>patriarchal gender normsStop gaslighting?. It’s not enforcing patriarchal norms to acknowledge that male troons are far more sexually motivated, dangerous and misogynistic than TIFs, who while being delusional transmaidens, are not the ones committing rape and destroying female organisations, spaces and causes. A good example is how on reddit, gay subs are allowed to ban them, but lesbian subs CANNOT ban TIMs. Lesbian dating apps cannot ban TIMs but gay ones can ban TIFs. Why? Because men are far more effective at bullying and shaming women into doing what they want. >speak for womenI have endo, I live in the UK. The head of the main charity I have used for years is now a troon who will never experience the condition and who skinwalks it for his fetish. Don’t ask me to be okay with that.
>>156218980Shut up Harold
>>156219167>>156219184My penis is the biggest on the planet.
>>156219167True, but they seem to be less histrionic and more emotionally grounded than both MTFs and women in general. MTFs, especially when they are just starting their hormones out, are REALLY fucking emotionally unstable.This is based entirely on my personal interactions with them - which is a lot, since i frequent anime cons and have them sprinkled about in various friend groups.
>>156216870Pedophile male.
>>156218293>doesn't ignore the fact that they are a man>isn't retarded schizo that plays the pronouns game>doesn't look like a drag show faggotI'm actually cool with this character. Shame there aren't more sane ppl like him.
>>156219196TIMs do not behave even slightly like women. I get that you’re a sexist retard who thinks hysterical narcissist = woman, but that’s not the case in reality. They behave like porn addicted men.
>>156219304>TIMNo offense anon but what the fuck does this even mean? You can't be trying to trvth nvke people when using a term literally no one knows
>>156219304>They behave like porn addicted men.I'm a man and I behave like a racist in real life.
>>156219332Trans identified male. >>156219343Good for you.
>>156219351I know at least a dozen racial slurs and use them in public conversartion.
>>156219304>TIMs do not behave even slightly like women.The ones on hormones are much less emotionally regulated than "normal" men.
>>156219374>people who pursue their life-ruining fetishes are less stable than people who don'tShocking.
>>156219374Being an emotionally unstable man does not make you a woman. When you equate the behavior of erratic impulsive males to women you just play into their BS on this. Women are generally far more in control of their emotions than men anyway.
>>156219184you can't extrapolate from percentage of crimes in prison to the general population.
>>156219428>Women are generally far more in control of their emotions than men1 Timothy 2:12.
>>156211126you're telling me /pol/ is getting the rope? it's about damn time
>>156219428My emotional instability has made me irrationally racist toward every non-white that comes across me. One time, I met a mudshark and her little animals at the mall. The things I said to her got me an indefinite trespass.
>>156219452Yes you can. You can compare the percentage of women in prison for certain crimes to men in prison for certain crimes and extrapolate which groups has a higher propensity to commit certain crimes. As usual, TRAs love to downplay rape.>>156219478Women were extremely prominent in the early church and Paul praises women repeatedly. Christianity was called a religion of women and slaves since women were so influential in spreading it.
>>156219580>Yes you can.Can you prove that? In actual studies that sort of extrapolation would be extremely biased and not useful. There's a reason studies that only involve convicts are considered rathered flawed.
>>156219580And yet there was a reason they were explicitly denied leadership roles.
>>156219803You are just making stuff up. What’s the source on studies with convicts being flawed for understanding proportional representation of criminality? Link it? I gave you government data. Seriously, be real. Why are you defending this? Why is women being raped and assaulted by porn addicted men something your ideology demands you ignore? As usual, you prove TRAs don’t give a shit about women. >>156219825Because men are terrified of women gaining power and selecting undesirable male genes out of existence. Part of the trans movement is inserting men into the definition of women as a means to control women and reassert subjugation.
>>156219882Non-whites are terrified of me gaining power.
>>156219882>Part of the progressive illness is elevating women to a higher status than is deserved (equal to men) and all of the nonsense that comes with it, like men being women and vice versaFixed.
>>156219332TiM = Trans-identified male = MtF = Male-to-female = transwoman = people such as Caitlyn Jenner (formerly Bruce)TiF = Trans-identified female = FtM = Female-to-male = transman = people such as Elliot Page (formerly Ellen)FtMs want to be recognised as transmen while MtFs want to be called transwomen. Or sometimes they want to be understood as just men and women, in contrast with non-trans people being cis men/cis women.TiF/TiM are terminology that's exclusively used by gender-critical people, or trans-exclusionary radical feminists, or terfs. They are people like JKR; feminists who see the transgender movement as an enemy of women's rights. Since the words TiM/TiF recognise a person's biological sex instead of their gender identity, trans people see these words as unacceptable insults and will get angry about them.People who are uninvolved in the trans vs. terf slapfight will usually use words MtF/FtM or transwoman/transman. Those are considered mostly neutral and polite. If they dislike trans people, they may use words like tranny, troon (MtF) or pooner (FtM).
>>156219882>What’s the source on studies with convicts being flawed for understanding proportional representation of criminality?You are the one whose argument assumes that it can be extrapolated. you need to provide evidence for that.
>>156220239>autogynephile>autoandrophileGlad we cleared that up.
>>156220356Average male convict- in prison for sex crimes roughly 20% of the time.Average TIM convict- in prison for sex crimes roughly 60% of the time.Ergo, TIMs are over represented for criminal sexuality.
It's fitting he went from "bike cuck" to femboy/trans. Cuckoldry is an inherently very gay fetish where the woman is just a vessel for two men to engage in submission/domination play without having to admit they want to fuck each other.What I'm saying is that a sissy bottom bitch cocksleeve cumwhore like Shen is pathologically a slutty, submissive and breedable femboy breedslave and he's finally accepted it instead of resisting.
>>156219882>What’s the source on studies with convicts being flawed for understanding proportional representation of criminality?>>156220417Under your reasoning: >100% of people in prison are criminals, therefore 100% of people outside prison are also criminals
>>156220429Suddenly Anthony Burch pressuring his wife to sleep with other guys so much they had to divorce makes a lot more sense.That's a sad way to live.
>>156220451No, i’m saying the proportion of people who are criminals represent the criminality of the boarder populace. For example, male convicts are in prison for sex crimes 20% of the time, as opposed to women for which this number is far smaller. This tells us women as a general population are less likely, if they commit crimes, to commit sex crimes as compared to men. Now apply this logic to troons.
>>156220371>faggotyou're making it too complicated anon
>>156220482>No, i’m saying the proportion of people who are criminals represent the criminality of the boarder populaceWhat exactly do you mean by this?IIRC, more than 20% of people in prison are drug dealers. Does this mean 20% of the general population are also drug dealers?
>>156220525Why are you pretending not to understand what I’m saying? Men are incarnated for sex crimes 20% of the time they commit a crime. For women, this is around 5-6%. We can extrapolate from that, that men are more likely to commit sex crimes than other crimes. TIMs commit sex crimes 60% of the time they are incarcerated. Same logic. Pretending not to understand this is just wilfully saying you’d rather women be raped and ignore reality.
>>156212818no one and i mean NO ONE acts like tranny women are real women once you are out of earshot
>>156211070>"The joke is I started doing this shit to get laid but it felt weirdly right because suddenly many of the arbitrary and self-contradictory standards of masculinity I'd spent my whole life stressing about suddenly meant nothing." The CIA has really done a number on my generation.
>>156211070Being a comedy webcomic artist is a sad existence nowadays
>>156220616every day troons get more and more gender role brained
>>156220587>Why are you pretending not to understand what I’m saying? Men are incarnated for sex crimes 20% of the time they commit a crime. For women, this is around 5-6%. So are you saying 1/5th of all men are rapists?>We can extrapolate from that, that men are more likely to commit sex crimes than other crimes.nope, most people in prison are there for drug crimes.
>>156220626Society uses gender roles to try to establish order, but many of them become distorted and counter-productive over time.Troons use gender roles for fetish play, which is why they're sometimes even more weird and aggressive about it than the average person.
>>156220655work on your reading comprehension perhaps
>>156220655No. I am saying, based on incarceration rates, men are more likely to commit those types of crimes, per capita. Why is this difficult for you?>drug crimesI’ll try again. Far less female convicts are in prison for sex crimes. Over double the number of male convicts are in prison for sex crimes. We derive from that that males have a higher propensity to commit those types of crimes. If you pretend not to understand this again, you just prove my point that troon defenders will do anything to obfuscate harm toward women.
This all seems like the least worthwhile thing in the universe to obsess over, for both the supporters and the haters. But especially the haters for the obvious reason that it doesn't really affect them.Imagine caring about stuff that doesn't affect you. Couldn't be me.
>>156220701>We derive from that that males have a higher propensity to commit those types of crimes.How do you know its not that they are just more likely to be convicted?
>>156220714>you should not care about what people around you are doing. you are a man as an island. society has no effect on you o algo...shut up tranny
>>156220727You're just a spiteful little shit who jumped on whatever hatewagon rolled by your basement. You are incorrect because you are confused, because your cause is not your own.
>>156220727>this webcomic artist trooning out affects me because... we live in a society!
>>156220751>>156220752trannies lost
>>156211126So when are you going to rope yourself?
>>156220429>Shen is pathologically a slutty, submissive and breedable femboy breedslaveFucking this.
It’s so fucking over.https://pawchive.pw/patreon/user/72813/post/174571357
>>156220768never because only trannies do that
>>156218207He's cracking.
>>156218207>troons prey on self hating menwhat else is new
>>156220714Except the entire thing is based around explicitly effecting women and denying them any ability to exclude men in any capacity. Oh right, you didn’t think of that because it simply doesn’t occur to you as an issue. Tedious.>>156220722Are you really being this disingenuous? You think women are raping at the same rate men are? This is the crux of your entire movement really, pretending men aren’t far more likely to commit these kinds of crimes and blame shifting to women to justify taking away their right to differentiate themselves from men. I’ll also say, in the UK where this data comes from there are literal sentencing guidelines to be MORE lenient to troons. So they’re getting convicted this much despite leeway protecting them. You won’t acknowledge any of this because you don’t care. Men’s feelings matter more than rape to you.
>>156220784So he knows, got it.
>>156220817>Are you really being this disingenuous?How is it disingenous? How do you know that your hypothesis is the only possible explanation?
>>156220849Tell me with a straight face you think men don’t commit sex crimes more than women. Go on. Just admit you support a men’s rights movement. I already know you do.
>>156220862>Just admit you support a men’s rights movementHe doesn't, he supports a men's castration movement. Like (You) did, until you remembered you had to let the not-yet-castrated into the girls' room.
>bike cuckYOU JUST KNEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>156220862i think your reasoning is flawed, because you aren't showing that other hypothesises are false.
>>156220828he will kill himself won't he.
>>156218850Because testosterone actually masculinizes, while estrogen merely prevents future masculinization, i.e. they pass and fly under the radar far more than MtFs.
>>156216042>Comparing 60% to 8.5%>Thinking anyone takes FTMs seriously
>>156216870>Masculine memeHeh
>>156217561It's called population control, you cant erase fags but can make them regulate their retardation
>>156211070His life expectancy just went from 50 to 35
>>156218850Anon, "trans-masc" ones are ugly Tumblrinas with even worse BPD. You were just lucky to not find them yet, just look up Tyler Catastrophe
>>156213888Based Larsen
>>156219580>You can compare the percentage of women in prison for certain crimes to men in prison for certain crimes and extrapolate which groups has a higher propensity to commit certain crimes.Women can't do shit. They are too physically and mentally weak to go through it, more prone to peer pressure of moral standards, etc. It's not indicative of emotional maturity nor character. Also>Rape Card™
>>156212420>Your side is always insisting that MTFs aren't women because they're not feminine enoughFurther proof you retards live in an ABSOLUTE FANTASY world. "Our side" (whatever that means), have always and will always insist the MtF are men BECAUSE THEY AREN'T WOMEN. Biological males are biological males.
>>156212818>tranny cant separate their own identity from their political identityIDPOL: Not even once.Go back, retard.>>>/pol/>>>/leftypol/>>>/bunkerchan/
>>156220482>to commit sex crimes as compared to menIf women have a hard time reporting rape by men, why would female/male raped by females been taken seriously or encouraged to be reported?
>>156220817>British TERFDamn, no wonder you're so bitter.
>>156211070beep beep
>>156217234What a shit show.
>>156222264But at least he was under the sheet with Belle! So you can maximise that kind of exploitation to have fun or success.
>>156222264>It's just a prank bro..I still laugh when I remember it. Vlad is the only guy that can pull it off and return with balls intact but didn't checked his channel for a while
>>156222271That Baby Yoda toy has seent things.
>>156218471The answer to this is shockingly simple. And I don't mean any of this in some smug 'gotcha' kind of way; it's just something that I've genuinely noticed as the years have gone by.On the modern internet, people don't consume media. People don't watch movies, people don't read comics, people don't play video games. When people have terrible takes like this, more often than not, it's not because they don't understand the thing they've read. It's that they just haven't read it at all. And are either just making shit up, or parroting what someone else told them. And that second guy probably hasn't read the comic either!
>>156219184>No, it means males are far more likely to commit homicide than women when comparing incarceration rates for the same offences, which the study does if you bothered to read it.This was never something I disputed, only whether or not the percentages of imprisoned demographic members represents percentages among the entire demographic. Looking at data from the Ministry and Justice and 2021 census to extrapolate the rates of sex offenders among the total populations myself does paint a dire picture. The percent of sex offenders among all males who identify as women is around 4 times more than the percent among the rest of males: about 0.039 vs 0.116. One complication is that the number of “trans women” sex offenders counts those who only started identifying as women after committing their crimes, thus the rates don’t apply to the general MTFs out in the world whose transition were not motivated by prison-onset gender dysphoria, which is a satirical phrase and not actual TRA lingo in case you’re unfamiliar with it. Correctional Service Canada reported that 94% of “gender diverse offenders” (82% of this group are referred to as trans women) of sex crimes “committed their crimes while living as their biological sex” suggesting that “prison onset gender dysphoria” can skew the data to a significant degree. I still don’t believe that 60% of the prisoners being sex offenders amounts to over half of all TIMs being dangerous and evil because it just doesn’t match what I’ve seen in both real life and the internet, which is why I don’t agree with applying horrible stereotypes and worst-case assumptions as the default image of them as an entire population, nor do I think that treating them as predators by default does anything to encourage them to self police harder and weed out the predators, since they take the words of anyone who labels them as evil by default less seriously.
>>156219184>My annoyance with FTMs is that they can see that male troons blatantly hate them, demean and belittle them constantly, and they still act like handmaidens for them.Do you see this as different from the unhealthy and dangerous amount of tolerance that women give men in general? Do you think the same of any woman who supports the overall well-being of a minority group and doesn’t have a particularly low opinion of the men in the group as a whole compared to men in general? It’s like you’ve found an excuse to treat a category of women as deserving of misogynistic stereotyping. You ascribe more personhood to TIMs than TIFs, but all the same they're nailed down to a strict gender role. When I see you and other trans critics apply the generalizations that you do to all trans people, it seems as if you’re lashing out at those who threaten to muddle the definitions of gender in ways that bother you by trying to force extreme gender roles onto them: Men are super violent and literally can’t stop themselves from committing sex crimes, and women are crazy and incapable of making decisions for themselves, and always follow men because they can’t think for themselves.>If they have dissenting viewpoints, they're just confused pawns of their male masters.I notice that you didn’t respond to my specific description of the stereotype I accused you of playing into, but you did basiclly paraphrase it.>TIFs, who while being delusional transmaidens,Reducing an entire category of females down to just being identically crazy and submissive to males, treating their desires and perspectives on their own lives as irrelevant. Talking about them as if they don’t even have their own desires, and existing as mere vessels for the desires of males. You should really do some more talking to TIFs until you start actually seeing them as humans.>Don’t ask me to be okay with that.I won't, that sounds like a huge frustration.
>>156221902You’re living in a fantasy world if you think that people arguing against the validity of trans identities by citing how their personalities and interests don’t fit their identified sex never happens ever.
>>156217650Damn, couldn't have said it better myself.
>>156222523>prison onset gender dysphoriaWhy would they turn tranny after being incarcerated? What makes you think they weren't "boymoding uwu"
>>156222626Anon. You need to understand. Many of these guys haven't seen a chick in years. Another man's ass will be the closest thing to a pussy they will ever get.
>>156219103i always forget how many unironic newfags lurk here it's been known that many protests are funded by NGOs for who knows what reason
>>156222679Are you saying conversion therapy works?
>>156222694Bussy!!!
>>156222626>Why would they turn tranny after being incarcerated?They usually get perks like private shower time or a cell without a roommate, and of course they might be looking for a way to access women.
>>156220784bro, just get facial hair laser surgery
>>156222790On a gas station clerk's pay?
Has anyone posted the copypasta yet?
>>156211070hasn't he been doing this weird trans stuff for a while now to the point where he's been accused of "transbaiting"?i remember seeing this discussed
>>156222799He should get a sugar daddy to afford his desperate escape from twink death
>>156216870And I always was a motorcade. My grandpa was too, and he saw JFK's death really close
>>156220239>faggot = faggot identified faggot = faggot = faggot-to-faggot = faggot = faggots such as faggot (formerly faggot)ftfy
>>156212271i really thought this was gonna be an alien story before this panel. as in, audrey really was a creature from venus. oh well, i should have known better>>156212420it's not women's responsibility to nurture men, no matter how much they're suffering. women's spaces are not refuges for bullied gay men, mentally ill men, or even abused boys with nowhere else to go. men gotta step up and take care of their outcasts instead of forcing women to play mommy
>>156222264I miss the days when a male turning into a female was a fate worse than death
>>156212217>read his articles and storiesWhere can I read it?
>>156223096>it's not women's responsibility to nurture men, no matter how much they're suffering.It's not men's responsibility to be a piggy bank or play comfort blank/emotional sponge/absent daddy replacement for women neither, but I agree men don't need to rely on foids, trannies can just isolate themselves.
>>156217234He probably isn't trans but still clearly has interested about it and wished he'd be a girl.No one takes dick to the ass unironically for years and then proclaim he was only acting gay for money and lols
>>156222330I think that F1nn likes it that way.>>156223109Why do you care? Closet gay or just envious that some guys can pull it off?
>>156220784A shame. It'd be really interesting if Shen makes it so that the femboy learns fighting against nature is a futile battle and chooses to come to terms with his inherent masculinity. He won't, because that would be transphobic for some reason. But it'd be interesting.
>>156223259>that would be transphobic for some reasonMore like triggering, if trannies have a moment of introspection to see any cracks or alternatives to their narrative, they kill themselves
>>156218126Where is the grooming? Thats more like a spy who infiltrates a society than integrates into to that society.
>>156218850the large majority of FTMs are molestation victims, and are also mostly harmless, they get a pass
>>156212818lmao every single anti-tranny proposition during midterms has passed, even in the places that voted bluenobody likes you trannies, not even the liberals
Why are you people so terrified of trannies?
>>156218850That's only because you hang out in spaces dominated by men rather eg. female fandomite sites, fanfic communities like AO3, female-majority hobbies and so onFtms are horribly fucking obnoxious
>>156224042You're mistaking disgust for fear
>>156219260ironically every bulletpoint of this list is what's causing so much dramathere are people who believe you're only valid if you reject or ignore everything that made you a man. or that you're only valid if you DON'T pass and yet still are accepted. or you're only valid if you reject labels entirely. or you're only valid if you champion other people who aren't as privileged as you.and on and on
>>156224112You only need to go to TikTok or art Xitter
>>156224113No, I'm disgusted by e.g. messy shits but I don't constantly talk about them.
>>156224200You would if you had to deal with hobos constantly trying to take nasty public dumps in your vicinity which is equivalent of what trannies are in regards to general society.
>>156224042Personally, the only beef I have with trans stuff is on the level of categorization and linguistics. I don't like how some people insist they must be treated as 100% really women in the sense of the word woman most people have used in the past. I understand why fighting over the word usage is important to them though - the more people accept a trans-inclusive usage of the word, the easier it is to accept them as women in more contexts. But it bugs me on a deeper level, because associating man vs. woman with your identity brings in all kinds of nasty implications about the state of being a man or woman depending on feeling a certain way about yourself and the world. I like the neutrality of the traditional definitions, you're an adult of that sex and that's that, you can be however you want and remain man or woman (but it doesn't mean more than sex). Of course, the words have always had multiple usages beyond that, but people understood when saying "man up" or "you're not a real man" that the person was still a man physically. I think it also distracts from the more important issues, and makes trans stuff harder to accept for the average person. For someone, especially someone older, telling them a transwoman is a woman is like telling them 2+2=5. It is impossible with their usage of the word, they'll consider accepting the trans usage as though they're Picard being forced into saying there's five lights. At the same, my grievance seems insignificant and I can't stand people hating on trans people, most of whom are just trying to live freely in a way that makes them most comfortable. All the 41% crap and everything else, people like that are just assholes. Like gay people, males and females that feel a want or need to change their bodies and live socially in ways traditionally associated with the opposite sex aren't going anywhere. So they should be treated with respect and kindness. But not as identical to the opposite sex category.
>>156224241>tldr Associating the words man and woman with biological sex is a useful classification that we'll probably never fully get away from, because sex and its associated traits and tendencies are real and continue to matter in society. But beyond biological characteristics, those traits and tendencies shouldn't be treated as qualifications for being a man or a woman. Men and women should be free to deviate from every traditional expectation of their sex without becoming any less of a man or woman.
>>156224241>telling them a transwoman is a woman is like telling them 2+2=5Thinking about it, zoomers have less association of gender with sex because they spend most time online and can't see what others look like, just their cute girl profile pictures and fake as fuck writing styles, meanwhile older generations use the internet less and only see trannies in real life
>>156224273>zoomers have less association of gender with sex because they spend most time online and can't see what others look likeI've thought a lot about this. The rise of socializing online coinciding with more people identifying as transgender people goes beyond just connecting people with the idea and letting them be open about it. The increasing disconnect between our physical bodies and our identities plays a role too.
/co/ seems really obsessed with random webcomic authors. 325 replies psychoanalyzing some random fucking guy.
>>156224303I feel like media in general makes you trans now. Anywhere I see fans of video games, cartoons, or anime, there's a high likelihood that most of them are trans. I think it's because gamers and anime fans suck at taking care of their appearance, which leads them to women being repulsed by them, leading them to feel insecure about themselves, and it drills this idea into their head that they can never get a gf or have sex. With the insecurity, loneliness, need for affection, and the belief that they'll never find love all combined into one, it leads to these guys developing agp and start crossdressing. When they develop agp and crossdress, it causes this "awakening" within them, and it causes them to eventually BECOME the girlfriend rather than getting a girlfriend. Another reason is that they think men aren't considered desirable by women in today's age, and think women live life on easy mode. So they end up transitioning, thinking their life will be easier as a woman and that all their problems will wash away. It's why so many incels end up trooning out. Also, whenever I see people who don't consume anime or vidya, none of them are trans. Interesting... When I found all this out, I was so shocked and immediately stopped my anime and gaming habits. This is so fucked up. HRT is doing to nerd communities what crack did to black neighborhoods in the 80s. Sad to watch. Spread the word and make sure your family and friends don't play vidya or watch anime/cartoons.
>>156224362Or it’s retards realizing they can only get friends if they do some tranny shit with others like them
>>156222373it's like some horrible game of telephone
>>156224362I wonder what causes FTM trannies other than molestation, they try to be a man less than MTFs try to act like women
>>156212818It was 100% Iran and inflation
>>156218293>>156218390>>156218441the audrey character is clearly transgender, but somewhat closeted.
>>156224222transgender people are 1% of the population. you just overestimate how much of them there are.
>>156224273>>156224303Does G.I.R.L. (Guy In Real Life) even exist as a phenomenon anymore? There used to be a common thing on forums where a girl in the community turned out to be a guy offline, and a minor controversy would happen after the reveal. Nowadays they'd just call themselves trans and nobody would dispute it further.
>>1562246591% is a lot when any city is like 10000+ people. 1% is several per schools, and several per working places
>>156224471>they try to be a man less than MTFs try to act like womenBecause instead they try to (anime) gayboys, and the gay stereotype is that of an effeminate fag, which doesn't require much change in their behavior. Instead they just use their newfound status to start saying shit like>teehee I'm such a limp-wristed faggot, like, I'm a total fruity twink???
>>156220784ew.can anyone just make a normal femboy x female story with cute art and fun adventures and no tranny angst
>>156214343>That they keep up these habits even if it no longer arouses them suggests that they provide a psychological comfort apart from arousal, and is therefore more than just a typical fetish.The truth is that troons are worthy of pity.Most of them are just teenagers with problems who are depressed over being unattractive (fat, dorky, twink, etc.). They wish they had a different life, one where they're not a chubby dork. And they're lonely, so they go online and make friends in games or Discord or whatever, and there's inevitably someone there from their cult who's eager to tell them:"You're not an ugly guy, you're actually a cute girl! Your life would be so much better if you were a cute lesbian like me!"Since they're depressed teenagers with problems, they cling to this like a life preserver. No one can tell them that they're being fed a lie (they'd be banned). And their new "friends" tell them that anyone who does (usually their parents) is literally evil incarnate ("transphobes").So they start. They buy girl's clothes and get even more depressed because they can see they just look like a man in a dress. But they show their "friends" who all tell them how pretty they are and how great it'll be once they transition.This just digs them further into hell. Every day they wake up hating themselves not for being unattractive, but instead for not being feminine. Their gynecomastia looks bizarre, their shoulders are too broad, their bone structure doesn't change, their dicks stop working. So they have a whole new set of problems to be miserable about, but they get affirmation (that they never got from their parents) for trying. They realize that they'll never actually be a woman, but they're not allowed to think this. And everyone they meet is lying to them 24/7.
>>156211070Much better variant of "wolf becomes soft on prey": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIQ2GVvW0QQ
>>156224912>The truth is that [autogynephiles and autoandrophiles] are worthy of [scorn and ridicule]Fixed.>Most of them are just teenagersAnd? Acquiring the fetish as a teenager doesn't excuse acting on it as an adult.
>>156224324>the comics board seems to like talking about comics and comic authorsyeah..?
>>156224912>The truth is that troons are worthy of pity.Only those under 25 though, if you're 25+ and your brain still hasnt evolved past the whole "I wanna be speshul" attitude then you deserve every ridicule possible.
>>156225069>Only those under 25Too generous.
>>156220525>>156220655Are you stupid? She is not saying that 60% of trannies are racista, just that trannies are more likely to be rapists.
>>156221901>rape doesn’t matterAverage TRA argument.>>156221919Notice how every single time their arguments shift blame to women. Is there any actual difference between a TRA and MRA? The amount of female rapists would need to be insanely under reported to come close to men (or TIMs)>>156221940It’s you guys getting upset and angry every single day over feminists, not the other way around.
>"all moids are evil rapist psychopaths!">"all foids are weak worthless retards!"and then they both wonder why a person would want to change sexes
>>156222523And whose fault is it that male rapists can spontaneously decide they’re women and get moved to a woman’s prison? It’s not TERFs that did this, it’s people who defend this nonsense at the expense of women. I will say that I see no evidence that them even being trans beforehand effects anything though. There was a famous one here the BBC pushed as a paradigm example, he was obsessed with the kardashians and on HRT since he was a young teen. He was arrested for child porn this year or last afaik (and for a suspended sentence because he was trans). You can just communicate with these people and even on HRT for years they’re addicted to porn and talk about it constantly. >half of themI never said that. I said their “identity” doesn’t stop them behaving like men. If it’s not safe to have men in women’s spaces, it’s provably not safe to have TIMs in them either. I’m treating them like men, because all these statistics show that’s what they behave like because they are. If it’s not safe to have the average man in these spaces because a % of them commit sex crimes, the same applies to TIMs.
>>156225372Only one of them is true, and it's no excuse to indulge in autoandrophilia.
>>156225389you are only making more of them with that attitude
>>156225169'Zillian...
>>156225406Not if the medical world was serious in the 1960s and institutionalized Walter Carlos.
So, what's Shen's deal? A guy who's in love with his own reflection and now that he's getting older he's sad that he cant jerk off to his own pics anymore so now he's contemplating becoming a girl or something?
>>156222531I am really over people like you accusing me of misogyny. You are defending men making the female sex into a fetish cosplay, so let’s just not talk about who is being misogynistic, it’s completely disingenuous. For one reason or another, many of them are handmaidens. In my experience a lot of them had terrible experiences with men and do this as a sort of reaction to it, only for TIMs (who believe they’re throwing their “female privilege” away) to relentlessly mock and belittle them for it. If you really want to see misogyny, look at how male troons talk about TIFs. >force gender rolesAgain, you are the one telling me a man who “presents” a certain way and performs a certain way is a woman, that is, being a woman is a gender role. I am saying that sex is defined by biology, I have never stated otherwise. There are obviously biological differences that influence behavior which makes this a safety issue, but that’s not me deciding that a man is someone who does X. The rest of what you’ve said is just projection, like your entire argument seems to be. >Reducing an entire category of females down to just being identically crazy and submissive to malesOh no! Imagine if I was reducing the entire female sex to that. Then I’d be you!
so he is just a femboy?
>>156224042>why are you scared of a big ass man in your changing room>why are you scared of him and his friends deciding you don’t have any place you can be away from him>why are you scared of him having legal power to harass or get you a criminal charge for not wanting to be near him
>>156225535And when autoandrophiles do the exact same thing, for the exact same reasons? That's right, "It's okay when women do it." Go on, just say it.
>>156224112They are really annoying. >>156224241They aren’t trying to live freely? Why do they firebomb women’s shelters? Why do they lobby RELENTLESSLY to have definitions changed so that it is absolutely impossible for women to have any sort of space, organisation or thing without including them? Why does every female centric community get instantly targeted by them, taken over and then have their ideology enforced? Look at how many feminist subs have men modding them now, who just ban any trans critical content. Look at all the lesbian bars that got shut down over this. FFS. They aren’t trying to “exist” when their existence demands 50% of the population accept not being able to define themselves without men having a say in it anymore, without men skinwalking and colonising absolutely everything to do with them and taking it over. Inherently they want to control the definition of biological sex and what a woman is. That isn’t “wanting to be left alone”. You’re BSing. >respect and kindnessDo you say this the other way around though? Do you say this when they’re spamming rape fantasies on twitter about terfs, doxxing lesbians, trying to get charities like for women scotland closed down? Do you say this when they engage in lawfare against any woman uncomfortable with them? No, you ONLY police people like me. They do what they want.
>Enter threas expecting /co/ LOLs>instead get statistic after statisticI wish their was a way to seperate schizos from their obsessions. Seriously, where are the funny comics? What the hell are the mods doing?
>>156224362You’ve correctly identified that they’re incels but AGP is about control. They get to control access to sex they associate women with. You’ll notice incels always talk about how women have too much privilege and power and it’s something TIMs also say, either outright or implying it. Anime especially hyper sexualises and objectifies women and so it attracts porn addicted sexists who come to view women as some sort of entirely fetishistic aesthetic. Now imagine these sorts of people getting to decide what the word “woman” means, I don’t understand why people don’t comprehend the issue. >>1562246591% that got laws changed so now every time a woman reports a man in the changing room it’s a court case instead of an immediate ban from the gym or whatever. Suddenly the 1% can’t have a massive influence over politics when it’s your own little pet gang over narcissistic deviants.>>156224912Maybe some. A lot are simply narcissists with male entitlement turned up to 11. They think women especially owe them absolutely everything which is why they spend all day crying about women who set any boundaries to them.
>>156225483>Again, you are the one telling me a man who “presents” a certain way and performs a certain way is a woman, that is, being a woman is a gender role.>Oh no! Imagine if I was reducing the entire female sex to that. Then I’d be you!Not denying that you were applying sexist stereotypes to TIFs, huh. Just shouting "no you!" at an imaginary version of me who says the things that I haven't said but you wish I did.
>>156225618All /co/ threads on tumblr artists are actually just attempts by Kiwifarm fags trying to recreate a new Dobson. It's fucking sad & pathetic.
>>156225704I never did that. I said they were handmaidens, the fact that these women subjugate themselves to men who hate them isn’t a stereotype, it’s just how they behave. I never said women generally do this. Honestly I’m kinda sick of this from you people. You defend the most blatantly anti woman ideology and try to flip it around on me for not going along with it.
>>156224912Someone screenshot this
>>156225078Anyone over 16 shouldn't act like a toddler that needs a Discord groupie to not kill themselves
>>156225849>Anyone over 16 shouldn't act like a toddlerYou added a "1" by mistake.
>>156212271... That's kinda hot
How did we manage to get Guy and TERF schizo contained in a single thread?
>>156225889Also the tranny that keeps trying to make MTF goon threads
>>156212916kek
>>156225827Lmfao someone save the pseudo-intellectual essay on 4chan about le trannies this one is for the history books!!!
>>156225765>the fact that these women subjugate themselves to men who hate them isn’t a stereotype, it’s just how they behave.Saying that misogynistic stereotypes only apply to a specific subset of women who challenge your views on gender doesn't make it not a misogynistic stereotype. And instead of being able to stand behind what you say or question yourself, you pull these motte and baileys trying to frame yourself as more reasonable than you actually are.>the fact that these women subjugate themselves to men who hate them isn’t a stereotype, it’s just how they behaveThere's a difference between merely describing them as subjugating themselves to men and treating them as if their supposed insanity has stripped them of personhood and made them interiorityless servants of men. You're never gonna convince me that it's ok to treat TIFs the same way that an indiscriminately misogynistic man would treat women who he's politically at odds with.
>>156225889Why am I schizo?>>156226122It’s not a stereotype. Your entire post is just putting words in my mouth it’s quite childish really. When the hell did I say they had no personhood? I said I found them annoying, generally self hating and subservient to men, as an observation. I also never advocated for treating TIMs or TIFs badly, I just said I don’t accept their bs and explained why to you.
>>156211070A faggy wolf starves the pack, noted
>>156226269>Your entire post is just putting words in my mouth it’s quite childish really.You've been putting words in my mouth the entire thread. From my perspective, the difference is that what I say about you is based on what you've actually said instead of just generalizations about people like you.>I said I found them annoying, generally self hating and subservient to men, as an observation.It becomes a denial of their personhood when you reduce them down to just that, as if their personal desires that don't relate to serving males are irrelevant or non existent. When you talk of them this way it's not much different from how general misogynists talk about women they disagree with. I can't believe I have to restate this because you're being disingenuous over the word "treat". I've never before seen someone object to the concept of referring to how someone talks about a demographic groups using extremely negative loaded language as treating that demographic in a certain way.
>>156214111sex pest is when you're a man and you have a libido
>>156226882>She doesn't know
>>156211070This is the same concept but done way better.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R71p94M-z0Y
>>156211814>a zombie virus that turns girls into menIsn't that literally what's happening? Like if a girl in a friend group comes out as a trans-man, then all the other girl suddenly decide they're trans too. There's a whole social contagion element to all the trans stuff, which is why de-transitioners have been a thing for a while now.Is that actually the joke here or am I reading too much into it?
What would that rabbit from that one show that ended this year think about "The Boy From Venus"?
>>156226990I want to fuck that wolf and those sheep.
>>156227126>de-transitioners have been a thing for a while now.I wonder how much of those exist, most kill themselves before reaching it
>>156227254It's hard to say because we can barely even get a number of how many trans people there are because trans itself is an umbrella term that includes intersex, people with body dysmorphia disorder, autogynephiliacs, people with other mental illnesses that have been misdiagnosed as body dysmorphia, people who've been groomed or peer pressured into transitioning, and non-binary, which from everything I've seen (and without taking their claims at face value) basically a fashion statement that's this generation's version of goth.
>>156227353>autogynephilia includes autogynephilesRevelatory.
>>156214111>>156226882Shmorky is a famous trans diaperfur animator and famously pretended to be all uwu smol bean trans girl until he got mad at his girlfriend, dropped his femme voice in anger and threatened violence against her. Men pretending to be "uguuu I'm so kawaii and smol and cute" are always over-compensating for something. Men are inherently dangerous and pretending otherwise is something only dishonest people that try to get others to let their guard down around them do. That's why so many "male feminists" turn out to be huge sex pests.
>>156227353You can't just define trans to only include the "right trans", that's defining transness based on "trans vibes" instead of transition.
>>156227448>Men are inherently dangerousGood thing you've spent decades trying to subvert that "danger," huh? Wonder who you ended up helping along the way...
>>156227563>Good thing you've spent decades trying to subvert that "danger," huh? Wonder who you ended up helping along the way...I have no idea what you're talking about or who you think I am, schizo.
>>156227584>who you think I amYou said who you are when you laid out your oikophobic worldview. Need I quote it again?
>>156227602>You said who you are when you laid out your oikophobic worldviewMen are dangerous as physical metric of raw capability, retard, it has nothing to do with culture or society. Kill yourself.
>>156227667>Men are dangerous as physical metric of raw capability>men are capable, and women are the victim of itAgain, good thing you spent much of the latter half of the last century, and all of this one so far, allying with the same fetish cultists you now play-fight with towards the goal of making that "threat" go away.>Kill yourselfThe cry of someone absolutely not dictated by emotions, no sir.
>>156227707>allying with the same fetish cultists you now play-fight with towards the goal of making that "threat" go away.What the fuck are you talking about? I'm a man, I don't want the threat to go away.
>>156227707please learn to read im begging you
>>156220862>. Just admit you support a men’s rights movement. What's wrong with men's rights
>>156227808Nothing, she's just misdiagnosing a movement to castrate men and let women be pseudo-dominant as being part of it, despite it being something she likely agrees with until she realized she was letting the not-yet-castrated into the women's rooms.
>>156227466They do it so they can pretend someone wasn’t really trans the moment they’re outed as a pedo or sex pest
>>156213888Typical speedrunning event
>>156227723>What the fuck are you talking about?Feminists who've always been chummy with fetish ghouls on the grounds that men "don't need to be masculine" and women "don't need to be feminine.">I'm a manGood, you should hate both and not bother defending either.>>156227767I already do. And you?
>>156220371You are obsessed with using these terms even when TIM and TIF aren't all that flattering either.
>>156215116It was very generic. I don't know how you get worse than very generic.
>>156227980>You are obsessed with using [accurate] termsCorrect.>TIM and TIF aren't all that flatteringConceding to their euphemism for both themselves and their cult ritual, that's "not all that flattering"?
>>156228005TIM and TIF were not terms invented by trannies. Also learn2integrate.
>>156228035What does the "T" stand for in both, genius?>learn2integrateAfter using this website longer than (You) have? Why bother?
>>156228051Figure out what the letter I means in those acronyms. [mr] [sore] [thumb] [brackets].
>>156228085I know what the "I" means, now stop pretending you don't know what the "T" means.
>>156228111Put them together and add that last letter, come on anon, you can do it.
>>156228335>buuuhhhhh, if ya put dem aww togevver!!1!Cute. What does "T" stand for, and what might it be a euphemism for? I know you know it at this point, I'm just waiting for you to stop pretending not to, in order to make discourse impossible.
>>156228366Trans identified male or female, as in a recognition that while they identify as trans, they're still their respective sex at the end of the day. When you consider the full acronym instead of losing your mind at the word 'trans' being present, you'll realize it's not an attempt at validation, but the opposite. A pooner is still being called a woman by that last letter, likewise for a TIM.Do you also get upset at words like 'translate' or 'transport' too?
Boy I sure love going on my cartoons and comics board and seeing moralfags complain about trans people as if them existing is a self destroying issues that I feel I have to care about and be mad at.
>>156225741One time I had a dream about a made up lolcow named Victor who made home movies of him and his parents fucking, and he commissioned someone to make a video bashing him.If you guys are so interested in lolcows, maybe you could make your own fictional lolcows to tell stories with and be engaged with and discuss. Maybe?
>>156228437>it's not an attempt at validationNo, you just incorporated their euphemism into a new one; one that gives them for more benefit of doubt than they deserve, that being any at all.>Do you also get upset at words like 'translate' or 'transport' too?Do you have a friend willing to drop a cinder block from five stories above you, directly onto the clearly-still-soft portion of skull that inspired such an inane question?
>>156228503I mean this from the bottom of my heart but as someone who is anti-trans, please stop arguing on our behalf. You're genuinely too low IQ to be having this discussion.
>>156227353>intersexThat's not even T, unless you count being a gender while having fucked genitals as transexual I guess
>>156221914You forgot /lgbt/
>>156228475Plenty of reasonable posts itt from people against it
>>156214111>t. jeet rapist
>>156228644>as someone who is anti-transEven in your alleged opposition, you still use their euphemism.>You're genuinely too low IQ to be having this discussionWhat a convenient excuse to not respond.
>>156227189What sheep?
>>156229096They're sheep until they take the sheep costume off. I'm into roleplay.
I still want to know what man/woman actually means to these people, because they seem to basically treat them like nonsense words with no meaning.
>>156212420Having broad shoulders or hairy legs or a prominent jaw are not representative of gender roles, they are biological traits. Some women have mustaches the same way some men have wide hips.It is the Trans activists and progressives who basically woke'd their way into gender essentialism; men are violent brutes and women are when dresses and makeup and panties. If a boy likes dresses or the color pink, it doesn't mean that he's girly; it means he *is* a girl. If a girl doesn't dress in a traditionally feminine way, it doesn't mean she's a tomboy; she *is* a boy.What people mean when they point out how often we see MtFs who are not visibly feminine is that it is ironic that someone who supposedly wants to embody womanhood so badly that death is preferable to the alternative defines "living as a woman" as dressing like either a crunchy hippie grandma or a fetishized Japanese schoolgirl, but also draws the line at shaving their 5 o'clock shadow. They'll claim that gender is fluid and that sexuality is a spectrum and that traditional gender roles are outdated and harmful, but when they show their interpretation of what it means to be a woman it inevitably ends up having the depth of a stick figure with a triangle for a torso. Their definition of womanhood does not extend beyond either clothes or sex, it is all about either wearing a pretty dress or having salacious makeout sessions with the other girls at your first slumber party. It's like a child imitating an adult, so they put on their father's oversize shoes and pick up his briefcase, but put nothing inside it.It belays a simplistic interpretation of sexuality and gender, but even with the bar so low the execution is still entirely half-assed. That's why it's made fun of.
>>156211070Subtlety is dead.
>>156229201>they seem to basically treat them like nonsense words with no meaningIn the feminist "tradition" they've shared for decades, yes.
>>156218850Yeah in my experience FtMs just end up being cheerful fat neckbeards, like they generally just aspire to be gay chubby halflings. Occasionally you get the ones who clearly want to be Andrew Tate, so they basically go from being pixie-ish tomboys to being performatively chauvanistic incels with Napoleon complexes.The MtFs at their best are basically still dudes, at worst they embody all the most obnoxious traits of toxic women with the aggression of toxic men. If there's autism overlap then there's a strong chance they have zero concept of boundaries as well.
>>156212818Didn't fucking Washington state of all places just ban trans from women's sports?
>>156229281Didn't Alabama of all places just elect a transwoman senator?
>>156229293>is the Republican Party just controlled opposition to the progressive illness???Yes. It's in the name.
>>156229293No.
>>156229339I wonder how far this limp wristed ""centrism"" will get you
>>156216877>>156216890>>156216901>>156216901>>156216911>>156216920The idea of a wolf eventually feeling guilty about their deception (but the sheep being too naive to figure it out and too sweet to care once it's spelled out for them) is pretty funnyBut the underlying theme makes this feel oddly sinister.>the wolf IS a predator attempting to infiltrate the flock>the reveal of the elder shows that he is not the first to do this>the wolf acknowledges that what he's doing is a deception >the author is presenting an ideal scenario, where the demographic being infiltrated is too stupid/accepting to care>even if they're unsure, the "elder" is also an infiltrator who will favor the wolf>the sheep have no agency or ability to decide who is allowed in their space; moreso if they lack the ability to consent to that, all the better
>>156229364>this limp wristed ""centrism""Wrong post?
>>156211371>Reminder Shen is has been trapped in ultra conservative conversion therapyHear me out. Either he is trapped in an ultra conservative conversion therapy that allows him to use the internet and talk to his tranny friends but not post art commissions.Or he could just be lying to flake on art commissions.
>>156229385I know who you are, Harold. Your gay monarchism larp is basically just centrism for pseuds.
>>156229395>he could just be lyingEvery autogynephile and autoandrophile---including the ones that use the "gender non-conforming" banner---is, yes.
>>156229409>I know who you are, Harold.You don't know my name, so that's clearly a lie.
>>156229409The continential United States is a joke.>>156229411I am a dog. You can't disprove this.
>>156229423You're right, I guess Harold is too white of a name for you lol
>>156229431>I am a dog. You can't disprove this.Dogs can't type.>>156229436>I guess Harold is too white of a name for youUh-huh, so how far has this "pretending to be heckin' racist to own le evil chuds" thing gotten you so far?
>>156229457I am a dog, anon. An ultra-fascist right wing one, too. I'm the smartest dog on the planet and I type on a custom keyboard made by my rich owner. Could all the other anons you're "debating" with also be dogs? You never know. You could also be a dog pretending be man.That's the greatest sin of all.
>>156229457It's not racist to know that most white supremacists are brownIf anything, that's tragic that you've been groomed to be like this
>>156229488Is the "joke" here that every autogynephile and autoandrophile that claims this mythical "gender dysphoria" is telling the truth?>>156229498>pictured: not a brown person, airing grievances about the Kosher ritual done to him as an infantWhat, exactly, are you trying to say?
>>156229545Hilarious post, thank you
>>156229545There is no joke. I am not joking. This is reality. You're talking to a dog with an internet connection. How can you not understand?
>>156229567Don't trust this guy. He's actually a hamster.
>>156229574I am not a lesser mammal.
>>156229558Was there a point lost here, or is brainlessly rattling off an easy path to satisfaction that I know better than to try?
>>156229583>He types with his tiny paws
>>156225692> 1% that got laws changed so now every time a woman reports a man in the changing room it’s a court case instead of an immediate ban from the gym or whateverWhich laws were changed
>>156229587It's a /pol/tard.You won't get anything coherent from it.
>>156229616I'm sure you'd call me the same epithet, so what's your excuse?
>>156229599I am not a fucking hamster! Those disgusting rodents were never man's best friend. I am man's best friend! Those glorified seed nibbling rats will never experience the beautiful bond shared between dog and man.
>>156229367It’s crazy how they’re not self aware enough to realize how this comes across
>>156228475>cartoons and comics board complains about transDisney says trans rights. So if you don't hate troons you basically agree with Disney. I don't make the rules.
>>156229635>I'm sure you'd call me the same epithetDo you spam retarded /pol/ pictures and post the same retarded posts in every thread in a vein attempt to make people see your retarded opinions?If no, then you're just a normal poster.
>>156229645>I am man's best friend!>He screams while running in his wheel to deal with the stress of never being called a good boy
>>156229687I am not a fucking rodent!
>>156229201It has no intrinsic meaning, just vibes and feelings the "facts" should follow
This thread has finally entered schizo Nirvana, nice
>>156229203>Umm, nobody on my side says that because I personally don't agree with it.Another anti-trans poster pretending that that the anti-trans arguments you don't endorse don't exist. Pretending that trans people are never criticized for not living up to the role of their ideal gender just makes you look like a disingenuous charlatan to those outside of your echo chamber. There's nothing wrong with accepting that not all anti-trans arguments are ones you agree with.>It is the Trans activists and progressives who basically woke'd their way into gender essentialism; men are violent brutesThis stereotype is constantly applied to trans identified males as a default generalization including in this thread. It's like the people making these arguments are assigning hypermasculinity by default and assigning TIFs hyperfemininity because they're offended by people who challenge their views of gender and need to punish them by forcing them into extreme gender roles. You yourself are taking part in the reduction of TIMs into virtually mindless beings whose lives revolve entirely around sex and have no capability to form complex thoughts about female sex or their own sexuality. There's no logical reason why TIMs can't form these thoughts if other males can, so the only logically consistent way to make these arguments unless you argue that the default state of males as a whole is to be a mentally handicapped gigacoomer incapable of thinking beyond their sexual impulses and having a life outside of sex. In other words: boys will be boys, they literally can't stop themselves from being stupid perverts who know nothing about women.Have you noticed that your argument amounts to reducing an entire category of human beings to sex objects and justifying it by blaming them for making you see them that way because of the clothes they wear?
>>156211070This situation brings to mind the Wildlifers story "Loverboy" by Joe Rosales
wasnt this the plot of ewe lala or something from that one webcomicalso i remember reading that the history of the original tale was just the wolf pretending to be a sheep only to get eaten by the fat fuck farmer who didnt even notice he was eating and skinning a fucking wolf
Quick question: how many anti-trans posters /here/ have watched I Saw the TV Glow? Like, out of curiosity, or something
>>156230648i am immune to tranny propaganda
>>156230713Okay then watching it shouldn't change anything
>>156230722exactly
>>156230736Bodied him. I also wonder how many of these guys who say this would bother reading any of rowlings essays or attempting to see the other side of the argument? None of them.
>>156230760>he said, referring to someone who regularly sees both sides of the argument
>>156229711Of COURSE not, he was just trying to hurt you. Have another alfalfa pellet and try to settle down.
>>156229667What rights don't they have? Aside from not being allowed around their favored prey, small children.
This guy seems pretty fruity to be honest.
>>156230471I'm starting to think you aren't a bot but some genuine schizo wasting a whole day arguing on an anonymous website
>>156230984>Schizos, on my 4chan?
>>156231013The likely actual female ones are rare
>>156231013> it's more likely than you'd think!
Imagine if Audrey and Val watched >>156212701 instead of some found-footage slop
>>156220616I think that's what makes all of this feel so insidious. It's never as simple as "yeah it just feels right" or "yeah it makes me cum hard". It's always tied to a philosophy that needs to apply to all other aspects of life. And not only is not adhering to this philosophy harmful... it's evil! You're not evil, are you?Pod-person type shit
>>156224042It's not fear, I just find it kinda gross, but then I'm generally made uncomfortable when anyone is far too public with their fetishes. The few trans I know are all pretty chill aside from the obvious, but the really crazy ones have way too much social power which they exercise way too aggressively. There's having your kink and then there's forcing unwilling bystanders to be a participant in your kink. We're not ready for the conversation about how anyone who derives sexual pleasure from gender affirmation is functionally sexually assaulting anyone whom they force to abide by their preferred pronouns.Everyone I've met, even avowed LGBT allies, will admit that some of this stuff just goes too far if pressed enough.
>>156232419>It's always tied to a philosophySo-called "classical" liberalism, yes.>>156232471>some of this stuff just goes too farOnly "some"?
>>156224362This desuI'm sure there are plenty of legit troons out there but it's very obvious that the majority (especially recently) are essentially just incels who want to become the gf they can't seem to get. If you're a white male in high school or college (or even just a blue city/community/etc), you're receiving exactly zero positive affirmation from the world around you. If you're horny and insecure, if you feel ugly and unworthy of the attention of beautiful women, if you believe that women live life on easy mode? Then trooning out is the natural move.Take a sexually frustrated incel on a college campus and tell him that he can cross all sorts of social/sexual boundaries with his female peers (and they'll be powerless to do anything about it, for fear of being ostracized as a transphobe) and all he has to do is wear a skirt, put on a fake girl voice, and say his name is Lillith or Jade or Raven. Think he'd take that deal?
>>156230471Meds
>>156224004The next issue will be if the newly elected democrats will even bother to enforce the winning propositions.
>>156232658>will politicians, with no incentive to follow any agenda but their own, follow any agenda but their own???Guess.
>>156211070>>156211830>>156213258>>156214090So like...has this guy ever posted anything funny or entertaining? Every comic I see posted by him seems to begin and end at "smol bean and that's okay make sure to drink water and take breaks" with a hint of quirk mcchungus. Why is he so popular? Am I missing something?I think the only time I saw something endearing was his Christmas comic where Santa gives him his bike back
Who is this fag and why should I care?
>>156233308he spearheaded the webcomic trope of "emotions personified as a big man who beats you up" o algo
>>156233312Bike Cuck but he makes tranny comics now
>>156220616HRT in the gaming community is the equivalent of crack cocaine in the black community. Damn CIA.
>>156211547wait, THAT'S who that namefag is? i thought guy and this cat fag were two different dudesin my defense i don't come to /co/ super often so i don't see him all that often and don't know his posting patterns beyond vague schizophrenia
>>156233967>i thought guy and this cat fag were two different dudesSame
idk how this surprises anybody.99% of his "funny" comics are just this again and againhttps://files.catbox.moe/cm7usd.png
>>156234083funny that the bike cuck is the same guy that draws himself getting molested by colourful buff men for a career
>>156211371Qrd? He's trapped in conservative therapy even though he's an adult and is posting comics weekly?
>>156231013Guy and monarchy schizo have literally been in this thread for 2 days straight lol it's pathetic
>>156229203Anon, think for a second:If a biological man with a beard, dressed in a plain tshirt and cargo pants said he's a woman and preferred you to refer to him as such, would you?If your answer is no, then your entire argument fails. Especially since you are talking about this subject at a higher level than most of the general populace, who would likely also say no or show confusion if that person wasnt at least dressed like a "traditional" woman. Existing biases against trans individuals are so strong that dressing like the latter or heavier modifications are a necessity to get any kind of possible recognition for their preferred gender. Ideally anyone could wear or appear however they like regardless of sex, but society itself stratifies ultimately arbitrary connections between gender presentation and sex. Of course trans people want things to move away from this, but you cant expect every one of them is going to be able or willing to fight every front against them, all at once, constantly, while also fighting an internal battle. Thats not even getting into how another person's perception of someone as either man or woman can drastically change how they treat them.
>>156234658
>>156234958You've had an entire day to post that, schizoid
>>156211070is it true bikecuck trooned out?
>>156235105I have seent his penis.
>>156235105He visited a 'gender therapist,' whatever that is, who told him that he's not transgender, just a bit feminine. Anything else is wishful thinking from troons.
>>156235063Yeah and I just did. So what?
>>156235141So he’s just slightly poofy, that’s good.
>>156235160what else is new?I'm not gay, but I would insert my veiny penis in his anus
>>156227448>got angry once>therefore is not transof all the reasons to hate Shmorky this has got to be the worst I've heard
>>156234688>If a biological man with a beard, dressed in a plain tshirt and cargo pants said he's a woman and preferred you to refer to him as such, would you?So where are these normal looking guys that look otherwise normal insisting that they're women? All I ever see are dudes who try to badly cosplay as a mix of a clown and a woman.
>>156235419>where are these normal looking guys that look otherwise normal insisting that they're women?I think Mr Enter was in a feud with one
>>156211805>>156220784It's sad how some people make themselves more susceptible to the ravages of time
>>156235145NTA but here's another for your folder.
>>156233967By this point whenever an anon uses [This] I just dismiss him as retarded
>>156234688You can keep your "gender-nonconform" to yourselves, you all look like ugly glittery aliens
