>>156214594
It's so bad it killed Zootopia as a setting for me. Where am I meant to daydream waking up in now?

>>156214643
>multiculturalism diversity propaganda
What?

>>156214594
it's some low rent kids movie, who gives a shit? it's meant to sell happy meal toy deals and to let parents trick themselves into thinking that they're exposing their kids to good messages

>>156214733
weirdo

>>156214660
>Where am I meant to daydream waking up in now?
hazbin hotel

>>156214594
>can we all agree that the sequel was objectively bad and is an inferior version of the first movie?
No, we can't agree on that, because that's factually wrong.

>>156214660
>It's so bad it killed Zootopia as a setting for me
Then you might have a mental issue that needs working on. You are a fucking twat apparently. Zootopia 2 did a phenomenal job of adding to what the city was.

>>156214919
>it's just a sidegrade to an average film.
Not at all, it's an impressive movie both in story and visuals. You're pulled into the world instantly and given some really, really great characters throughout.

>but it didn't like how they handled the emotional bits
That's a pretty stupid personal problem of yours.

>and the twist villain
Who was handled extremely well.

>I couldn't stop laughing when they revealed it was another twist villain.
You have autism

>>156214594
Both movies are bad. Judy and Nick and their chemistry are the only good thing. If you watch the movies, its because of them.

>>156214660
Vineland

It is just a side-grade to an average film. I did enjoy some of the new environments, side characters and shots at Judy's ass. But I didn't like how they handled the emotional bits, the police aspect and the twist villain. I couldn't stop laughing and thinking "What did they mean by this?" when they revealed it was another twist villain.

>>156214950
>Both movies are bad
This post is bad. And wrong.

>Judy and Nick and their chemistry are the only good thing.
You should go outside more.

>If you watch the movies, its because of them.
They are the highlight, as they should be, but no.

Fact of the matter is you suck.

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>>156214894
>mfw watching Zootopia 2 alone
Beats jerking off and eating slop alone in home :)

>>156214975
Nice projection

>>156214594
Yeah this was very pg while Zootopia 1 felt pg13

>>156214986
>Nice projection
Indeed The movie was good, kinda disappointed officer hops and wild weren't not a romantic couple

>>156214995
>Yeah this was very pg while Zootopia 1 felt pg13
You should probably have actually watched the movie then

>>156214943
>You're pulled into the world instantly and given some really, really great characters throughout
They're fine but it is still Disney's by-the-manual archetypes and acting that I've seen a million times.

>That's a pretty stupid personal problem of yours.
Sorry, I can't take Nick and Judy's sad moment seriously when the movie itself basically mocks some of better moments of the last film and then later the writers start explaining to the audience what they're going through by having them give monologues about how they care for each other in a pseudo-psychological speech. It comes off as fun and stupid rather than emotional and cute.

>Who was handled extremely well.
He wasn't. If anything, pushing an anti-discrimination message by discriminating one of the universe's species was funny as fuck.

>You have autism
Everyone in /co/ has it.

>>156215022
>They're fine but it is still Disney's by-the-manual archetypes and acting that I've seen a million times.
Not really. You complaining about the acting is especially bizarre, because it's really not.

>mocks some of better moments of the last fil
It doesn't do that at all. You really are a fucking idiot.

> start explaining to the audience what they're going through by having them give monologues about how they care for each other in a pseudo-psychological speech. It comes off as fun and stupid rather than emotional and cute.
You miss the whole point of the movie and the scene. So that's not on the movie, that's actually a failure of you and you being too dumb to pick up on that. Are you even out of grade school?

>He wasn't. If anything, pushing an anti-discrimination message by discriminating one of the universe's species was funny as fuck.
Ah great, you're a retard chud.

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>>156214881
People shitting on a mediocre movie's sequel won't make the terabytes of smuts at Furaffinity e621 magically disappear. No Nut November is a self-imposed challenge, you can break at any time.

>>156214594
Imagine being so much of a smegma crust licking nimrod you make a stupid post like this. OP truly is a faggot.

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>>156215049
>"Nuh uh"
>"Nuh uh"
>"You missed the point"
>"You chud!"

Sure thing, buddy.
I won't be wasting my time with you. It's not my fault the best thing the mediocre sequel to a mediocre movie has to offer is Gazelle having bigger hips.

>>156215126
That's cool man, glad you're a big enough retard to not be able to defend yourself. Shitty people like you are not needed in this world.

>>156215212
>you're a big enough retard to not be able to defend yourself
I don't need to prove my opinions in an argument that won't lead anywhere

>Shitty people like you are not needed in this world
I don't think so. I think there's quite the demand for retards like me to make faggots like you seethe.

>>156214594
A sequel is not supposed to be a "version" or retelling of the previous movie.

uh...wait...

>remembers Ernie Reyes' "Money Fight" and "Red Canvas"

>>156215408
That's cute chud, why don't you go outside for once in your life instead of being a fucktard about a good movie?

>>156215562
you're not very smart.

>>156214594
Objectively it was a good 7/10 sequel.

It wasn't EXCELLENT sequel, because it missed the mark in some things people expect from a good sequel.
>Characters/Releationships
Whiles Judy's and Nick's chemistry is great its exactly the same as the first movie, it didn't evolve, the romance options was just teased more, which isn't evolving relationship

>Continuity errors
-Missing Judy's leg injury at the natural history museum was a big letdown, Nick bandaging that up was so meaningful originally.
-Why does the whole city knows that Nick is a "crook" hustler, how would anyone buy into his hustles if he were as infamous?
-What happened to all the wolf, tiger and polar bear officers that were there on Nick's first day at the ending of Zootopia1, why is suddenly Nick the only named predator officer seen in the entire movie?

>Story
The story was solid fun mystery, though there could've been things done better with maybe a less obvious twist villain. There are a lot of Pawbert fans out there, because he was somewhat cute, but now he is pretty irredeemable, so if Disney would try to redeem him/bring him back it would feel unsatisfying.

>Worldbuilding
Most of my friends think this is the part that Zootopia suffered the most, because they liked the only-mammal worldbuilding, and making reptiles talking people too made the setting a too generic cartoon world. They chose to make zootopia an only mammal city to not muddy the message, and Z2 then muddies that message and buried 10 years of fandom work of trying to expand the universe. Many artists with hundreds of chapters of fanfics just quit over this, because suddenly their characters that say things like "everymammal" that is a cutesy wordbuilding element, suddenly sound like anti-raptile racist assholes. But I personally can ignore that, the setting is still salvagable

But birds need to be wildlife in Zootopia 3 otherwise there is no functioning eco-system on the planet of this setting, breaking the immersion

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>>156214594
Haven't seen it.
>>156214975
I should've used a better png for that Coca Cola glass.
>>156215065
>>156215126
OUGH

>>156215903
Yeah, mammals being the only sapients while fish, bugs and everything else was a regular animal was a tidy explanation for "What do they eat?". I don't like that being changed.
Also I really can't buy dolphins and to a lesser extent walruses being part of this society, you need legs to do shit man. How are you meeting anyone or doing trade or surviving wars?

>>156216009
The walruses and dolhpins are fine, because they aren't really a foodsource for anyone. The ocean is massive. If Zootopia's planet is similar to ours and is covered 70% in water, I can buy Walruses and Dolphins having their own specialized underwater cities, same way there are bunny cities like BunnyBurrow. Imagine them like the Gungans on Naboo. And I think the movie did a good job showing the Marsh Market as a fishing town as one example of the ocean and land interacting. Irl that's where you would go to buy fish in bulk too. It's logical that waterfolk are better at catching fish than any land mammal. And try to conduct war on the ocean, it takes one Blue Whale to jump on your ship to sink it. So I think land mammals are pretty incentivised to leave the ocean-folk alone.

Bit more upset about reptiles, there was this really cool prehistory fanfic called "Rabbit Clan's Fox" where the bronze age society largely survived by hunting lizards, and making clothes from lizard skin and eating lizard meat. I mean, what did mongooses eat if not snakes? But maybe the ecosystem and food-chain can still work with only birds being wild-life. But if not even birds are wild beings, the jungles and forests of zootopia are ruled by giant spiders and giant snails...

>>156215903
>It wasn't EXCELLENT
It WAS an excellent sequel.

-Missing Judy's leg injury at the natural history museum was a big letdown, Nick bandaging that up was so meaningful originally.
-Why does the whole city knows that Nick is a "crook" hustler, how would anyone buy into his hustles if he were as infamous?
-What happened to all the wolf, tiger and polar bear officers that were there on Nick's first day at the ending of Zootopia1, why is suddenly Nick the only named predator officer seen in the entire movie?
1. Not a big deal, easily could've been removed after the arrest, etc, etc.
2.Why wouldn't they know? Nick's part of the big story, there's going to be info about him getting out especially as he goes into being a cop. It's all about the news. Use your brain.
3.They're still there, just because you don't see them on screen doesn't mean they're suddenly gone. Fucking use your head, holy hell.

>Most of my friends think this is the part that Zootopia suffered the most,
Your friends are idiots then.
> and making reptiles talking people too made the setting a too generic cartoon world
Oh okay, that confirms it then, your friends are fucktards and so are you.

>But birds need to be wildlife in Zootopia 3 otherwise there is no functioning eco-system on the planet of this setting, breaking the immersion
That is not at all true in any way, shape, or form. You are a fucking idiot.

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>>156214594
>Objectively
There's no such thing.
>Inferior version
I think so, but at the same time the original movie was a lightning in a bottle that cannot really be organically created, considering the amount of setbacks and remakes it got.
The version we got probably got assfucked to hell several times, even not including the fact it was a cop movie. Change in directors and writers and just disney shit. You can see from many storyboards the story kept changing, but unlike Z1 they didn't manage to capture the same lightning.
youtube.com/watch?v=XYQuIWFcBdQ
And also unlike the first one, they had enough trust to put it out the door rather than the final version having people coming down to fix the movie.
Test groups probably had a bit of a hand on it too, like removing the version where they would topple the Lynx guy statue to put the Snake woman in its place.

>>156214660
Compared to Z1 obsession with keeping shit like different size mammals, different species specific things, etc, most the movie did was make the pipes for water mammals. Reptile stuff (the secret bar, the district) felt way less inspired compared to the rest of the city personally, yeah less screentime but the rat town/ice town/hot town were all just superficial exploration but you kinda got that the artists kept adding more details to sell it as a 'this city has tons of different animals living in it'.

>>156216093
Maybe you're just a moron that gets hung up on shit and then tries to claim it ruins the movie.

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>>156216009
>eah, mammals being the only sapients while fish, bugs and everything else was a regular animal was a tidy explanation for "What do they eat?".
That's your own fault for having such a small brain.

>Also I really can't buy dolphins and to a lesser extent walruses being part of this society, you need legs to do shit man.
Oh shut up. People like you really do ruin potential for everything when you complain about something so fucking stupid and pointless as that.

>>156216333
>I think so
Then you're wrong.

>>156216326
>1. Not a big deal, easily could've been removed after the arrest, etc, etc.
a bleeding leg injury that made her hop on one leg, suddenly healed enough that she had the strength to used said leg to kick down the museum door... yeah okay retard

>>156216356
Yet it does not matter.

>>156216359
It wasn't healed, Judy was running off the whole adrenaline of the arrest. There's plenty of time for her to be able to walk on it again, it wasn't a fucking broken leg. You're a goddamn idiot.

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>>156215903
>There are a lot of Pawbert fans out there, because he was somewhat cute, but now he is pretty irredeemable, so if Disney would try to redeem him/bring him back it would feel unsatisfying.
Disney is the master of unsatisfying, so maybe that's what will happen. Personally I think he'll just join the sheep girl in being a butt of jokes/two-bit villain for attractions/merch.
>Worldbuilding
Yeah, it was kind of a weird direction, I remember thinking Zootopia was pretty masterful in the art of restraint whereas Beastars and other series kind of lost its plot once everything and everyone was sapient.

>>156216377
ok Jared, sure that's how adrenaline and a leg injury works.

I heard your answer the first time you said it, it made no sense then it makes no sense now. Stop hand-waving problems away with nonthingburger answers, its FINE, mistakes happen, we are all human, we don't point it out as proof to the movie being bad, we point it out because we hope that it will be done better in Zootopia 3

Please dont make birds another group of people, we don't need the same tolerance life-lessong a third time

>>156216420
>Yeah, it was kind of a weird direction
It wasn't.

>whereas Beastars and other series kind of lost its plot once everything and everyone was sapient.
Seems more like you being a dipshit is the real problem, and not these movies and shows.

>>156216454
>it wasn't
not that anon, but that's really not for you to decide. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion

>>156216445
Get fucked you ignorant child. You probably need to pay better attention to movies instead of shitting yourself in anger over nothingburger things in movies. Especially when there's clearly been time between when something happened and when we see the follow up. Retard.

>>156216472
>Everyone is entitled to their own opinion
That's the line racists use to justify their shitty thoughts, too

>>156216483
>ignorant child
im probably older than you

>shitting yourself in anger
like you right now?

>>156214943
Funny how you’re accusing him of having autism while glazing a mid Disney sequel. That just screams autism

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>>156216483
>Especially when there's clearly been time between when something happened and when we see the follow up

you are not just wrong, you are stupid

and you're ugly just like your mom

>>156216500
Nice projection

>>156216539
Jared Bush even admitted that he forgot Judy’s leg was fucked up and came up with the reason for her sudden healing being that she had adrenaline. It was so awkward

>>156216539
Oh cool, you're actually a moron. It takes TIME for them to get everyone arrested. It takes TIME to get the press there in full like they were. That's more than enough time for Judy to be able to move on her leg again. Fucking idiot.

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>>156216495
>That's the line racists use to justify their shitty thoughts, too
Unless you live in the UK, it's totally be fine to have racist opinions too.

>>156216454
It was.
I have always been a dipshit and movies have been good regardless of my predisposition to being a dipshit. There's no such thing as "magically makes a movie shit because you are a dipshit".

Can someone ask chatGTP if Nick's knot can kill Judy?

>>156216561
Nothing about it is awkward

>>156216570
Please got let this be not ragebait, let this fucker really think a leg injury like that can get better in the matter of a few hours, it would be so fucking funny if he would be uneducated like that

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>>156216578
He aint got one.

>>156216576
It wasn't. And you are a stain on humanity, that's a you issue.

>>156216588
It can get better enough to walk on. She didn't break her fucking leg you fucking mong.

>>156216598
It was. And it's an everyone else issue, I live perfectly fine. A detail everyone, including you, should realize.

>>156216615
It wasn't. And you shouldn't live at all, you're not worth the resources.

>>156216626
It was. And that's objectively incorrect, as I pay for those resources.

>>156216348
I mean the alternative options are "They eat eachother" which makes every setting super dark even if it's consensual organ donating or it's "Stop asking questions. Just eat the burger while your pig friend watches."

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>>156216615
even Jared admitted that he forgot about the injury, and made an excuse on the spot.

Doesn't make the injury non-existent or the fact that her pants are missing the tear in them. Get a grip and move on

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>>156216585
Why do you defend Zootopia 2 from any criticism?

>>156215065
Nick is eating good.

>>156216655
You really are too autistic to live

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>>156216639
this to be fair

I liked zootopia 1 specifically because it was a setting that finally avoided that stupid cartoon gimmick.

>>156216680
What do you mean by this?

>>156216687
he means nothing by it, he literally knows he has no leg to stand on and has been using ad hominems and death treaths for the past 6 months, every time someone complains about Zootopia 2's mistakes or weirdnesses.

He has told at least 20 seperate anons here in /co/ and /trash/ to kill themselves.

>>156216687
He’s projecting and also, he’s unwilling to accept any criticism towards his favorite movie

>>156216704
God damn dude, making shit up on the spot, are you? You can't seem to get out of your head and understand reality.

>>156216708
Yeah you have some MAJOR problems. Work on that.

>>156216708
Now this is projection

>>156216718
Please answer >>156216687.
What do you mean by being too autistic to live?

>>156216718
>>156216730
>>156216733
A trio of autistic tantrums

>>156216764
You're projecting again

>>156216809
You’re double projecting. I’m very secure and happy with myself

>>156216826
Weird, cause all you do is lie.

>>156216860
You’re lying to yourself. Your ego can’t handle people criticizing Zootopia 2

>>156216826
You don't seem very happy at all, maybe look into a therapist and get off the internet.

>>156216892
You’re the one worked up over a movie. I suggest you take your own advice

>>156216918
Seems like you're the one worked up over the movie, given you had to lie about it.

>>156216961
Exactly what lie did I tell?

>>156217019
Your whole life is a lie

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>>156216326
>That is not at all true in any way, shape, or form. You are a fucking idiot.

ok then since I'm obviously not well versed in biology, biodiversity and zoology despite my diplome, please enlighten me about how without birds, nature wouldn't have spiders rise as the apex predators and absolutely make forests unimaginably uncomfortable for any other life.

I think giant spiders are cool as shit so I support anthro birds now

>>156217036
Autist. Keep enjoying your Zootopia 2 slop

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>>156217066
giant chickens as even cooler tho

>>156217048
>despite my diplome
Well you sure as fuck can't spell, so I refuse to believe you're educated at all. Fucking wow, you suck.

>>156217197
sry english is my 4th language, you know some people learn more than 1

>>156217243
Sorry you're such a retarded community college twat that you struggle to comprehend Disney movies.

>>156216359
She didn't kick the door down, she just jumped and kick-pushed the door open. It had a push bar, not a knob.

>>156217243
So you're using "I have shitty English because I speak multiple languages, but not well enough to be competent at any of them" as a flex? Maybe you should chill with the polyglot shit, and buckle down like us americans. Master something, stop dabbling.

>>156217310
>>156217319
>>156217346
you replying 3 times to the same post instead of formulating 1 coherent response just makes you look more autistic than anyone you yourself call autistic

>>156217346
rich coming from the guy that uses red herring fallacies.

You didn't answer the question, you just attacked his typo

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>>156217357
You need to get back on your meds "genius"

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pingas