Why isn't it okay to kill your enemy, when that enemy oppressed the populace, rounded minorities in concentration camps, committed genocide against so many people, and committed war crimes?!Tell me. Are you willing to spare Hitler’s and Putin’s lives?
>>156214877She's already been subdued, and she's hot.
>>156214877Because Korra was a badly written show from beginning to end. Next question.
>conflating fiction with real lifeBait thread.
>>156214877Depends. What does killing her achieve, practically? I don't remember. Her being evil doesn't really matter to me
Season 4 should have been Asami's villain arc and S2-S3 should have been the carefully written explanation as to how we got here. Kuriva is the most penultimate wet fart of a final boss in all of Avatar they blew their load with Vaatu and the Red Lotus to where this felt like a massive step down
>>156214877Killing is only permitted in the moment before someone is about to kill or gravely harm another person.Not before or after.
>>156214877War crimes aren't crimes during war
>>156214877>Are you willing to spare Hitler’s and Putin’s lives?Did nothing
>>156214915If only Korra had challenged her to a trib off in the midseason fight Kuvira could have been defeated far earlier.
Not only do I spare Hitler, I endorse himSieg Heil!
>>156214877Because Aang wouldn't kill her. Which means it's the correct course of action Korra needs to take.
Kuriva is such a nothing character and to the people who have not seen the Avatar comics she remains a nothing character. I also think it's interesting how she is one of the few villains that isn't directly killed by Korra or someone who is affiliated with Korra. Unalaq literally desintigrated. 3 of the 4 Red Lotus were straight up fucking killed by Korra's friends and Amon was killed by his brother after Korra kicked him out of Republic City By all accounts dropping a fucking nuke and telling spirits they can suck her clit I'm amazed this didn't kill spirit relationships with humans permanently because literally in the comics this is brought up but it's not brought up meaningfully at all.
>>156214877Kuvira should have dommed Korra right there and have her way.
>>156214877It is absolutely ok, modern writers just have a hard-on for the whole "iF yOu KiLL tHeM yOuRe JuSt LiKe ThEm" trope.
>>156214877Kuvira mogs SHITra in every way. Literally a character too good for this lgbtroon bulldyke of a show.
>>156214877Kuvira was saved to become a lesbian sex slave. Korra and Asami will be double teaming her most nights making her cum over and over and over again until she loses all will and becomes addicted to the ecstasy.
>>156217937>>156218583Epsteintroon btw
so like, if we apply your premise as a rule, applying to all situationsas long as you are sure that the other person did really bad things, its okay to kill themthis creates a grey area where you could abuse such a power by just repeating "this guy totally deserved it" everytime you kill someone
>>156214877Interesting choice of person there rabbi.
>>156214877Because it's a kids show and they can't show that kind of thing.
Under any circumstances.
>>156218814You gotta imagine how brutal it would be to see the red mist that was her head just jetting out of that iron clamshell as it rockets off away from her body.
>>156214877Was that last line needed at all?
>>156218973They're a libtard.It's their one of two talking points.Talk really slow and use vocabulary a 3rd grader would use.
You aren’t allowed to kill your oppressor.
Season 4 should have been focused on turning Asami evil.
>>156214877Why both didn't kissed right there?
>>156214877>Tell me. Are you willing to spare Hitler’s and Putin’s lives?Anon, have you ever been in a Turkish prison?
>>156214877>Tell me. Are you willing to spare Hitler’s and Putin’s lives?If you're mentioning the real world then you'd know that they'd be jailed and tried for their crimes then executed for them. You're better off going with fantasy world logic where breaking the law can be ignored. Kuvira was beaten and no longer posed a threat. Killing her wasn't going to save someone's life that she was endangering at that moment. If you want a justified villain kill that is all of that then here it is.
>>156214877>>156218375The real reason fiction does this is because creators (and more importantly executives) are terrified that if they acknowledge some problems can't be solved through anything other than killing those responsible, people will actually go out and assassinate politicians/serial killers/whatever in real life.
>>156217937This would have been better than the ending we got.
>>156215041You don't have to work to feed her and house her in prison. And she's never getting out anyway.
>>156221428So we're killing her to save the cost of a prison meal? Not because her followers will try to break her out or pour encourager les autres, but so we can scratch an item off the budget?
>>156217937>>156216039THIS!!!
>>156214877American imperialists want to feel good about themselves and control everything. They only hate what they can't control.
>>156218845The funniest thing about her not having arms is that she could never deflect lightning to begin with so he should've just shot her directly. Any time.
>>156222207Yes anon. Do you know how expensive is it to keep 1 person in prison? You're not just paying the meal. You're paying the infrastructure, the guards, the doctors, everything. And it's neither cheap, nor it's just 1 person.
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>>156214877Killing her would have made her a Martyr to her troops, sparing her caused Kuvira to order her troops to stand down, allowing for a smoother more peaceful end to the Earth Empire.
>>156214877How come Korra and Kuvira look better as a couple than Korra and Asami?
>>156226340Thats technically true considering how in one of the books, a soldier loyal to Kuriva single handedly defeats Mako, Bolin and Asami and then does some Ba Sing Se bullshit to brainwash them into attacking Korra.
>>156226345Because Asami despite how shes written has all of her storylines told completely thru environmental subtext that you sort of have to figure out on your own because the writers sure as hell didnt. Hell, the idea of a woman wanting to scorch Republic City to ashes should be something Asami wanted to do since Kuriva is a massive downgrade from someone like the Red Lotus and even Vaatu.
>>156226406Asami is barely a character, she's more a plot device to make Korra into girls.
>>156226508Oh believe me I know and its bullshit because shes also a karma magnet for bad shit that constantly happens to her nor does she ever call into question how anytime she gets a bounce back it was because of some dumb shit that involved people hunting after Korra or Korra directly caused that makes people hate her later. This development in Seven Havens is a blantant example of what im talking about
>>156219977Asami would have got mad.
>>156226982I would have preferred that. I never get to see Asami do things selfishly for her own benefit.
>>156226982She should have accepted her place in Korra's new harem
>>156226982Or it would have turned her on.
>>156214877If you kill your enemy then they win.
>>156214877Hitler killed himselfPutin will fall out of a windows sometime in 2028
>>156214877>You need to forgive your enemies for ruining your life and country>No I am not a Christian myself and I will shove a stake up your ass and let the crows eat youwhy is the left like this?
>>156214990But anon, don't you know that Korra would agree with OP's political beliefs?
>>156228505Asami should agree with mine not Korra's
>>156228505More like Amon.
>>156214877There's always the risk of making a martyr of them. This is why the British exiled Napoleon>avatarbecause its written by bleeding hearts genxers for infantilised millenials
>>156228825You could have determined this when you saw how they wrote Sozin and Ozai
>>156214877Are they flirting?
>>156214877You could the tension with a knife.
>>156216039If they had been doing that, we wouldn't want them to end it earlier.
>>156228933All the interactions between these two characters have subtle erotic undertones, which is weird because the writers clearly did not intend it, while all the romantic drama they did write with intention fizzled.
>>156214877Kuvira did nothing wrong.
>>156229534>these two characters have subtle erotic undertonesThe writers had one job.
>>156229546She did Korra, too.
>>156214877She ended lawless ness.
>>156214877The last line was not necessary.
>>156226136What happens next?
>>156214877All the villains in Avatar get incarcerated or stripped of their powers.
>>156232576Or flat out fucking killed.
>>156214877theres nothing wrong with anything you listed.
How old were you when you realized you’d be chudcel forever anons?
>>156214877>oppressed the populaceLiberated the populace from an incompetent leader and united warring factions under a single banner.>rounded minorities in concentration campsRounded up bandits, raiders, and enemy combatants into concentration camps.>committed genocide against so many peopleWho? Who did Kuvira attempt to ethnically cleanse?>and committed war crimes?!What war crimes did she commit, specifically? Because the only war crime I remember is Suyin trying to assassinate Kuvira during a ceasefire.
>>156228361Or at least bring her to court and sentence her to death according to the law, or at least sentence her to life imprisonment for war crimes.
>>156215079Asami should have been a villain all along.
>>156223840Fuck off Hasan
>>156214877>Why isn't it okay to kill your enemyBecause libcuck. The reason for this is twofold. One: Because it shows you're not a fucking psychopath willing to kill anything that isn't you, and two: It breaks your enemies by showing them how wrong they are when the land prospers without their selfishness getting in the way.>Are you willing to spare Hitler’s and Putin’s lives?I wouldn't have to. They would most likely kill themselves than face trial or be granted mercy.
>>156226386> A single soldier beats, captures, and brainwashes Mako Bolin and AsamiHow embarrassing.What a bunch of clowns.
>>156232825And there's no Geneva convention so pretty sure there aren't defined war crimes. The whole trying to kill her during the truce was definitely a dick move. Counter point, however, she shot her husband while he was a hostage.
>"Your next incarnation will have to fight a giant robot"
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>>156235789lel
>>156214877she so pretty~
>>156214877Why did they make Kuvira so hot?
>>156238427they made her so hot just to give her a complete loser boyfriend, what a waste
>>156238489Korra should have been her partner.
>>156238489many such cases!
>>156238489She had a boyfriend??
>>156238489>a complete loser boyfriendMako?
I'd sooner believe Asami was capable of building a giant evangelion mech for the purposes of killing Korra, everyone in Republic City and even dropping a nuke on the spirit world long before I would Kuriva. Kuriva feels like a S2 antagonist who got lost. Unalaq is a S4 end series antagonist that no one likes talking about
>>156214877>and committed war crimes?!people on Korra's side also committed a bunch of war crimes.For example, Korra kidnapping her fiance when he was coming over to negotiate with President Raiko, or Su attempting an assassination during a cease fire that Korra had brokered.
>>156240172Asami built weapons specifically for the South Pole to use against the North Pole and it's still a controversial subject that is ignored since even Bryke hates most of Book 2
>>156240214there is nothing wrong with war profiteering as long as you are not the one who caused the war.
>>156240430Yeah she believes that up until Varrick almost bankrupted her company. That was never resolved btw
>>156214877well if the society isnt in a fit state to give a person a fair trial then its fucked alreadyyou will note that the nazis were tried through a court of law.
>>156214877This >>156240464. Simply killing them accomplishes nothing, and if anything makes a martyr out of them to set the stage for the next fucktard who'll inevitably follow in their footsteps. Blood begets blood begets blood, at some point you have to allow civilization to do it's thing before everyone ends up dead.
>>156240464>A court of (((law))) which is agreed upon by all legal experts to have been a massive witch-hunt tier miscarriage of justice, with confessions compelled via torture, but it's wrongthink to talk about it too muchFrom my personal moral opinion, it would have been better to just outright execute them for being enemy leaders, rather than the whole dishonest song and dance humiliation ritual of a blatant kangaroo court. But they needed that shit so that the masses don't get the idea that you can hypothetically just kill "important" people when they do things wrong (You can).Ultimately, it's the exact same top-down artificially propagated "morality" that brought about OP's scenario. Things like revenge and violence in general are condemned because they're inconvenient to the powers that be. That's why so much media has the heroes brutally killing a million mooks, but then they stop when they get to the leader and send them to a prison where they can manipulate their way out later. Nothing's changed since the age of knights when they were ransomed instead of killed or enslaved like everyone else. All people are capable of violence, but the psychopaths/(((social manipulators))) more commonly utilize different methods and don't want people cutting the gordian knot.
>>156240961One of the reasons this age is so gay and retarded is because no one does anything when evil is plain to see, coping with the idea that 'the law' will deliver justice when it in fact will do the opposite. Whats crazy is alot of places don't have the death penalty so people's only true fear of going vigilante is time in prison and being outside the gay society and some of its comforts. truly pathetic really. Gwenerational psy-op at work really, saying 'turn hatred INSIDE on YOURSELF, not on those who harm you or are an affront to you'.If only suicidal people took someone/a few out before they go. leave the world a better place.
>>156240961>>156241558Most people dont look for valid reasons to kill other people, anon. Even the horrid ones. Seek help.
>>156241830well guess your not a truly creative type because you ABSOLUTELY should ask yourself these questions if you plan on creating a story of your own.If you actually read classic literature for example, it was actually very common and lauded that a hero figure slay the adversary, even if their justification was mild by todays standards. This is because authors of old understood (as did most of the audience) that ending an evil should be a permeant solution, not a dragged out ordeal.Your brain is too subverted by 'modern' morality-or its lack thereof, or complete basterdization of it-which is deliberately created to, as the other anon rightly pointed out, supress the natural reaction to kill those who wrong you or your society or way of life at large.It's why villains and anti-hero's are so popular these days, as they do violence the hero should do.Children's media is not exempt from propaganda and the OP is part of a long list of this foolish trope of never allowing a hero bloody catharsis *and the audience by extension) as it teaches '''the wrong lesson''.Unironically be less close-minded please and grasp these concepts, or remain a forever stunted view on morality and values.
>>156241830>Most people don't question things from a philosophical or moral standpoint and instead are thoughtless flesh automatons operating on SocietyOS developed and published by the Psychopath class for their own convenienceYeah, that sounds about right.I'm not saying every bad person should be killed, or whatever nonsensical knee-jerk strawman might be unconsciously forming in your head as a result of social conditioning, but it's important to recognize propaganda and its sources. Obviously, context is important.In terms of Avatar, I think it was foolish, even if in-character for Aang to try to spare Ozai instead of just killing him, as it was risky (as much as "risk" can exist in a fictional story), and achieved little if anything, other than appealing to Aang's naivety. I daresay it's even unrealistic. Don't forget that the modern idea of monks being pacifist hippies is solely because all the violent orders ended up losing and getting violently suppressed by the system of nations and governments, and that buddhism as a prime example has some inherently violence-prone core concepts and loopholes.Simply killing Ozai would have the same result of stopping the war, when their government was very clearly written around the strongman system. In fact, keeping him alive (and in fire nation prisons where he could potentially contact his support base, no less), merely opened up a hypothetical path for his continued influence in meddling with affairs. At best, it could be argued that stripping him of bending could have been done to humiliate him and make a living example out of him, but I consider the problems to outweigh the benefit.
>>156214877im gonna be real with you OP since you are the one insisting on bringing realism into fantasy.Powerful people very rarely pay for their crimes. The ones who do pay are usually low level third world dictators who get taken out by peasant revolts. But powerful first and second world rulers very rarely get held accountable.Kuriva if she were protrayed realistically wouldnt have surrendered because Korra talked her out of it. Her soldiers wouldnt have just stepped down and given up their empire. Real empires always have people waiting in the wings to take the reigns and keep things going. Even in the real world case of Hitler him committing suicide was the best thing that could have happened because the Allies genuinely did not know what they would do if they took him alive. Because there is this sort of unspoken gentleman's rule among the first world elites that you dont execute each other. That sort of thing is reserved for the peasants. I mean for christ sakes the banished and imprisoned Napoleon twice instead of executing him.
>>156214877is a jewish trick to groom kids into docile beings
>>156242224Even in wuxia novels or movie, the main character always kill those irredeemable villains, or at least let them be killed by others without interfering.
>>156240119Yeah.
>>156243078Thats the problem. The fact that rich people or people who work for rich people are getting so bold you cant even have rich people being punished in escapist media means it gets obvious who youre not allowed to critisize anymore. Thats why rich women go thru redemption arcs they didnt do anything to earn because they wanna hate their families and promote communism. Andrea, Pacifica, Asami, Amity it literally keeps happening over and over,
>>156244217>Thats why rich women go thru redemption arcs they didnt do anything to earn because they wanna hate their families and promote communism??? Kuriva was promoting fascism though. Asami, Pacifica, and Amity were analogies for the wealthy but how are you getting that they promote communism?Im sorry anon but you are kinda going off the rails with that. Ill even help you out by providing an actual example of what you might be gesturing at and ill also use this example to reinforce my own point. Amon is the best example of a critique of Communism. And in particular the authors show that although there are legitimate grievances for non-benders amon in typical communist fashion teists those grievances and uses them as an excuse to bring everyone down to a lower level instead of compromising and creating a more equitable system. In the end even after getting found out to be himself part of the privileged bending 'elite' of society, Amon is never given punishment by the people. Instead he is taken out by his own brother reinforcing the notion that the elites only can be judged and kept in line by other elites. Perhaps even more ironic still is that his own brother was simply his mirror image, Tarlock was essentially a modern capitalist politician who when threatened with a communist uprising seized power and slide into fascism to combat it, oppressing the peasant non-benders to do so.Anyway my point is dont get too hung up on railing against one system in particular. The rich and powerful in any system are always privileged above the masses, they are never held to the same standard or punished in the same way. The closest we have to a system that does do that is liberal democracy where theoretically the president once his term is over is still just a regular citizen. But in practice that hardly ever plays out.
Stop letting mass murderers avoid capital punishment.
>>156244439What I was getting at is that you notice how a lot of shows will blatantly depict a cartoonish caricature of capitalism or corporatism as this unchecked unregulatory body where one family profits off the exploitation of the environment or the working man and these families especially lately in these shows are depicted having only children, mostly daughters who dont question the reality around them or draw attention to it until the MC who is oftentimes brown, gay, extremely progressively basically the living embodiment of everything this family dynamic despises on every conceivable level and after spending not even 15 minutes alone with these people suddenly all of their original opinions on matters completely dont even exist anymore and exist to mirror the MC's opinions because the writers make it blatant what this is. This happens constantly. Pacifica was redeemed because she had maybe 2 bad days with her parents. Andrea was redeemed because she had one bad day with her parents and to keep it Avatar related Hiroshi straight up has shown in dozens of different ways that hating benders is entirely valid yet here Asami is sucking on the clit of the Avatar despite the fact Amon was rightAt this point it isnt a coincidence its blatant.
>>156214915>and she's hot.It is a rare instance of males acting like this.>>156214990People can't fully distinguish fiction from reality in more ways than one. I call out Death of the Author because it makes people pretends that there isn't someone making up bullshit. Applying real life logic makes sense because the in-universe logic sucks. Take Flagsmasher in Falcon and Winter Soldier. Take away the sad music and she is irredeemably evil and Falcon is a shit hero for sympathizing with her.
>Following the events of "The City That Never Dies," winter has arrived, the holidays are rapidly approaching, and the characters of the TMNT Universe have wounds that need to heal. Tang Shen, inspired by Michelangelo's love of the holiday season, decides it's time for the Hamato Clan, their allies, and even some of their enemies to come together to share one holiday meal. But will bad blood within the group allow them to break bread together? And are there external forces waiting outside the meal to break the group's bones?Despite our enemies have tried to kill us many times, we still wish to invite them to share a Christmas dinner.
>>156214877All of that is ok.
>>156245549Not ALL of it!
>>156214915Korra subdues her every night.
>>156231376now*licks lips*time for fun
>>156214877Depends on the minority and who is getting genocided.
>>156240154Maybe it's just because I'm tired but Asami being on the side of the equalists in S1 leading into Asami building the giant fucking evangelion in S2 sounds entertaining.
>>156235912BASED Sokka
