Do you think the influence of Enceladus V is going to make it into Knights of Guineverre? Do you think Dana's influence will make it into Enceladus V?
>>156217179isnt the creator litteraly working on kog episodes right now?also its nice that this is still talked about here, was one of the first people posting about it here when the kickstarter released
>>156217179More like Inceladus V
>>156217179I miss my robo girl
>>156217179Aw man, I was having a good week and remembering this got shut down made me sad.Great character designs, but I guess the "tiktok short" format was a bit of a gamble.
fuck off i hate this. it was the cringiest shit ive seen and i feel robbed by having the creator shilling this bs here. good artist/animator but a hack as a writer. just like dana.
>>156217179I feel a bit sad seeing this
>>156217179> tiktokslop> indielsop> faux anime oh brother, THIS SHIT STINKS
>>156217179I sure do love perky petite tomboys with tight assholes to tear openmhmm
>>156217179Andi a cute~
>>156217179Interest started and stopped at potentially breeding tomboys and robot girls.
>>156217396spankable
>>156217378
>>156217179The threads can barely make it past 15 posts. It's a shame too, i had high hopes, was there when the creator brought her Kickstarter here and even requested this OC. Oh well, proves how well gaining the 4chan audience works out.
>>156219354Using that buzzword?
>>156217179go go power rangers
>>156222816They didn't know at the time that around 3/4 of 4chans traffic were bots and jeets.
>>156217179>this isn't a twink
>>156217179It was really sad how the project flopped, the proposal was really nice looking. At least the creator is doing better now and has a stable job now I hope she may continue the project somehow someday.
>>156217348>was one of the first people posting about it here when the kickstarter releasedcongratulations
>>156223647Oh yeah, I can see exactly why this died.
>>156223830For me, sci-fi stands and falls with the mecha designs.
>>156223647Tiktok fucked over SBA and the vertical format killed interest in YouTube. Neat idea that got handicaped. Sucks that SBA waved a surrender flag and said she'll leave original indie series to other people >>156222816The same 4chan audience that salivates over TADC and Space King? It flopped because of the aspect ratio, simple as
>>156223949What mecha designs? I'm talking about those clowns.
>>156217348>isnt the creator litteraly working on kog episodes right now?To my knowledge, yes.>spoilerAnons yearn for Andi and her gang's adventures. I think a few changes here and there and it could get a lot of people invested.Plus, the character designs are great imo.
>>156217378Based on the discussion I remember about this show, this might not be too far off. I remember the goonpod discussions.
>>156222816I still have a little faith in it. I think that shifting away from the TikTok specific aspects can probably free it up more creatively.
do you people genuinally like this or are just hyping it up because you are from this person's cycle or because you all are goons? I'm genuince curious. I was here when SBA was shilling to death and even drew some fanart. I instantly got disapointed by the final product. I'm glad I didnt waste money backing it up. Serious what is the end game for you guys to keep talking about this? Its just your autism?
>>156224976I like the concept of the main lead girl who has weird anxiety over being stuck in a space ship traveling to a new planet she will never see, that is a very interesting story and character to explore. And petite tomboys are hot.Besides that, I'm not really a fan for the most part of the modern zeitgeist beliefs of present day cartoons (gay shit).>>156224852Pretty much what this anon said. Mostly I just like shipping, which just boils down to playing with dolls. Andi is a cute doll to play with, but I don't really know or remember much about the rest of the cast besides their looks.>>156223647And this poster with the main cast does tell enough (I guess?) of their personality. We got Andi, some brown twink in the background, brooding muscle guy, nerdy guy, and popular girl. And also the goon-bots I guess?Overall I like the show, but mostly I think my interest with it will be the same as all media these days, I'll interact with the fandom and fanworks more than the actual show.
>>156224387Sometimes its good to just call it quits, the aspect ration harmed a bit as well as the cost of productionNigel and Maramlade costs about an average days work to make and it works tremendously for this format while the production of enceladus v is higher in both quality and costAnd /co/ is not a legion. She probably got a couple hundred more views from here but only a (literal) small pilot can really get talks rolling.. I like it, and watched the video a few times but that's just not enough. Maybe one day there'll be. In a hope
>>156223949Wrong.
>>156223647What hurts the most about Enceladus V's failure is that SBA did everything right: she kept to a reasonable crowdfunding goal, did most of the grunt work herself so as to keep costs down and the crew small & manageable, and somehow still delivered a high-quality product in a relatively quick stretch of time, all while remaining very transparent about her struggles with getting Episode 1 across the finish line. She wasn't "an ideas guy" who grifted others into believing she could make an independent cartoon. She actually did the damn thing, but suffered for it.
We were ROBBED ROBBED I TELL YOU
>>156217179>>156223647>>156224852You all talk about this show like it was sold to executives and the creator can't do anything with it again. Of course she can; it's just on the back burner now due to her new work. If anything, her current work will help her whenever she wants to make this a full project again, with the networking she does at Glitch. That's the plus side to indies, even if you "fail" nothing is stopping you from coming back to it years later. Gameoverse was created and abandoned years before it became what it is today, nothing stopping this or other indie creations from the same.
>>156228358Well said.
>>156217179I need.. tomboy gf..
>>156228314SEXWITHHAGS
>>156229222Respect women.
>>156228314Imagine the backshots, while grabbing her braid and absolutely fucking her in a way she hasn't gotten in decades.>>156229329>Respect women.Imagine the loving penetration from behind after half an hour of foreplay, followed by lots of kissing and cuddling.
>>156228868Yes
>>156224387>Sucks that SBA waved a surrender flag and said she'll leave original indie series to other peopleIt could be a strategic retreat. Get her finances and life stable. Get some experience on an indie show. Come back swinging with a revised idea and roll with it. From what I remember, the initial cost and work involved was burdensome at a really rough point in her life.
>>156217348Honestly that's good to hear she's at least got something going on. Last few post were a bit worrisome and sad. Happy she's found new work and hopefully more long term still sad this didn't go anywhere but who knows maybe she can work her way into glitch and get them to pick it up one day.
>>156229570That's disgusting, and i dare say the reason why God doesn't give ya nice things.
I'm flattered by this thread anons. I still lurk occasionally. Here's a life update:>Working on KoG as storyboard lead and it's the coolest job I've ever had>Been working 80 hour weeks for the last 2 years, took on an extra full time job, Sonic 4 for the money and a Titmouse project to keep my insurance (Glitch has insurance but the LA union one also covers family)>It's my last week on the titmouse thing and then I'll just be on KoG and I'll be able to do other things finally>My wife Sofia (creator of Onyx Equinox if you're familiar) is supervising director on KoG now>My Andi was named independently of Dana's Andi but it's still a little embarrassing lol>The guy who designed Enceladus, the titular ship, is the prop designer on KoG and he's great!I'll get back to EV one day, maybe as a comic or in shorter, more animatic type things I can do by myself. Kickstarter is hell
>>156231514Glad you’re doing well. Hyped to see your work on Sonic.
>>156231514>My Andi was named independently of Dana's Andi but it's still a little embarrassing lolHave/would you ever draw Andi (KOG) and Andi (EV) hanging out?
>>156231514Have/would you ever draw Andi (KOG) and Andi (EV) making out?
>>156231514>I'll get back to EV one day, maybe as a comic or in shorter, more animatic type thingsThat's a really good idea, especially the comic part. To be honest, I feel like EV being a slice of life in a generational ship isn't really something I'd watch in an animation since I am an actionfag. But as a comic, I'd definitely read it. Not to mention comics taking less time to create and cheaper as well.
>>156231514>>156232056I am liking the comic idea too. Even a narrated one, if people are desperate for voices or w/e. EV is one of the underrated concepts that scratch my itch for soap operas, and it was a blast witnessing it.
>>156231514You don't know me and might not read this but I have been sending you all of those blob stick figures and questions on how to animate/storyboard on your straw page. I even made one of the lil guys hold a lime green 4chan clover, a little /co/ shout out in a way. I'm saying this because I felt lucky that you even bothered answering my questions earnestly, its very insightful >t. In the middle of making my own project, your professional work is cool and I have been trying to learn from it
>>156231514>Working on KoG as storyboard lead and it's the coolest job I've ever hadGlad to hear it, it seems like you've had a lot of fun from Twitter and the antis haven't been (too much) a pain in the ass like they were years ago. The KOG stuff has been something that's made following animation fun again recently.>I'll get back to EV one day, maybe as a comic or in shorter, more animatic type things I can do by myselfThat would be pretty cool, honestly. It's sad that we might not get more animation but it's understandable that that pathway has its limitations for a passion project where you're the only person who can work on it. Comic could be good, I feel the same way about Jentry Chau getting a graphic novel. I'll keep an eye out for any potential EV comic!Also, sorry to hear about AO3, I hope you get your fics back soon to enjoy before you're onto your next project.
>>156232488>sending you all of those blob stick figuresAny Enceladus V blobs/stick figures you've got for the thread, anon?
>>156231514>80 hour work week>needing a second job>happy for this jobI actually hate people like this. Good for you I guess.
>>156232831Neglect my previous post. Knee jerk reaction in the first half.YOU HAD ME!!
>>156231514>>156232831>80 hour work week>two jobsAre things really this bad in California?
>>156232862Didn't they just do a study that in cali (and 11 other states)100k income is now considered lower middle class.
>>156233254wtf...
>>156233254>100k income is now considered lower middle class.It WAS considered middle class.
drawfags can you draw a clothed titfuck with Frankie?
>>156232160A voice over for the story sounds interesting. It reminds me of the bonus audio that Romantically Apocalyptic had in the early strips of their old website. It would be a welcome addition if added to EV.
>>156232056>>156232160Good to know! Maybe now that I'm faster at drawing I could do it. I used to hate drawing comics in college >>156232488I love your blobs anon! People started getting a little weird on my strawpage so I stopped answering as often, but I appreciated your art. You can do it!! WAGMI
>>156232781>antisOne of the other people I work with sent me a screenshot of somebody saying I'm in a mutual block with them because of the caitvi thing from years ago. I had almost forgotten about it. I can see people getting super weird about KoG, they're already being weird about Sparky and Armend. They're gonna have to compartmentalize pretty hard to get through this one.I'm glad a lot of people like the comic idea! Maybe I'll get into it.>AO3 I miss my Spideycastle fics :(>>156232862>>156232831It sucks here but it's kind of my own fault for spending a bunch of money on my flop project while I was unemployed.
>>156217179Does anyone have all the character bios?
>>156234846I think?
>>156231514>>156234438>>156234443I'm not glad this project flopped if you're just a troon drawing this gay shit no one cares about, no wonder animation is dead
>>156235128Dumbass couldn’t even ragebaig right
>>156235159Damn is it any wonder western animation is dead when it's full of this bootleg Voltron homoslop? lmao
>>156235174>fullShow me 10 examples
>>156235128>i'm not glad this project flopped>>156235174>western animationNigger I don't like this voltron clone as well (and i think sba is a hack) but at least learn how to write a decent sentence that isn't the same repetition of other previous anons do in similar subject's threads. Check your grammar. No wonder they don't care for criticism if this is the average inteligence showed when someone criticize them here. Not that they care.
>below low effort bait>people bite anywaythis site is beyond help
>>156235089>>156235232Built for zero g plaps
so the plan it is just below average farm engagement for the most mid thing ever (NOT EVEN GOOD? Serious its not hard) and pretend you are doing something passionate. while shilling on 4chan. and working on LA. like a wagie. in exploitation industry. yeah i think i'm better unemployed. not to say "living" from glitch and paramount slaver labor lmao. oh boy i would be ashamed to even be talking online.
Just let the freaks keep bumping the thread.
>>156224387>TADCin 2025 maybe lol
>>156235232Low effort but hight quality bait seriously, I want a comic series just to get more of her
>>156231514With the comic you could "do a homestuck" and do animations for certain scenes for it. Really want action to POP, animate it yourself
>>156234296this isn't a KOG thread... sadly
>>156229329I will respect them by finding the SEXY and PLAPPABLE.
>>156235089>>156235103>>156235232>>156228314I would invite them to my "captain's quarter"
>>156235283Please tell me the plan was for the tomboy and the nerd to do that best friends who everyone assumes should be fucking but they're both such blind idiots that they can't see the forest for the trees.
>>156217179>Western reverse trapwhy can't we have more of this? why can't we escape this gay hell?
>>156236749Because the tastes of straight men are bigoted or sinful, depending on which side you ask
>>156233254City vs small town?
>>156236591Actually it seems like what Cal's bio said, his interest is Carme with maybe Gaia from her bio >>156235232
>>156231514Is Dana a good person to work with?
>>156236949How can these two little idiots not be perfect for each other. I want them both in bed. Singularly or as a package deal. >>156222816
>>156234443>It sucks here but it's kind of my own fault for spending a bunch of money on my flop project while I was unemployed.It's called taking risks. Don't even think anything of it. Fucking lonely stonkbro incels throw money away all the time while gloating how people like you spend it on happiness and that is why you're broke. You won, they lost.LOL
>>156237698I think no one is winning girlfriend. specially if they are posting on 4chan still.
>>156237834oh no no noI'm winning right nowLOL
>>156234443Your caitvi stuff was hot and I hate all the losers that shamed you from posting it online. Better than the shit they did with Arcane S2.
>>156237915hmmm are you like what employed? good job for being a decent average person. kinda weird how cocky you are about it.
>>156235542It doesn't generate discussion. >>156236518Not respectful and dare i say low quality.
>>156231514Glad to hear things are going better for you, I have a sister in the industry and know times are difficult. God bless!
If they had a whole season (like 20 episodes), what do you think we could've expected from these two?
>>156236749I hate this gay ass earth.
>>156238640>Not respectful and dare i say low quality.the only thing of low quality in this thread is my erection with the lack of Andi being posted
>>156239132I count three (3) characters there...
>>156236749maybe if you funded what little there is on kickstarter dot com it'd signal the market or something, I'm sure there are dozens of people currently wagecucking for Vivziepop who'd rather do their own thing if it wasn't for all that inflation and AI shit ruining the economy
>>156239464true but I only want to fuck two of the threemy plucky go getter tomboy and domineering wine aunt
>>156239328And dare i say getting off topic.
>>156222816both of them, from behind
>>156239819Respect women.
>>156239844Respect men, women and don't be gay.
>>156231514Wait, your wife is the creator of Onyx Equinox!? At least for me that's already an absolute win. I wish you the best to both of you
>>156231514How did most of the Enc team end up in KoG? Did dana seek them out?
>>156231514>kog>onyx eqinox>enceladus v>titmouseSo every prestige animation show that isn't scavenger's reign is part of a single networking group?
>>156240553i guess kinda? networking and such. friends making friends employed.i'm glad scavenger reign main crew has 2 series still in the works. that upcomming netflix office cartoon in thw works and season 2 of common side effects will premier soon. the later i'm very excited about.
>>156240593>i guess kinda? networking and such. friends making friends employed.Yeah, but it's worrysome that you can fit the entire scene in a single bucket. Then again then only time in history non-pop animation was big was in japan during the OVA craze, so its just par for the course.
>>156234443>>156237949Huh, what happened?
>>156240635sadly corporations are still corporations. we are living in a horrible endless recession and the big fishes are all in the same place and control most of the media distribuition. with streaming and gatekeeping and burning money. or exploiting. I just hope physical media interest comes back in a boom because i aim to mostly sell my stuff via it as guarantee. since its where the money means more both to the customers satisfaction and for the artist as a guarantee of cash back.
>>156235253ew
>>156235223Voltron didn't invent mecha.
>>156241195e_____e whaaaaaat. its the second time i see an anon mention tamers out of nowhere. what happening. since when tamers is gaining money for that cartoons? and mentioning elections all out of the nowhere too. hmm weird.>>156241376never said it did.
>>156241425I HATE DELETED REPLIES, YOU SWINE!!!!!!!AND STOP USING THIS IMAGE AS THE OP, OP!!!!!!!!!!https://desuarchive.org/co/search/image/Xe6dNGLBdDwAQeHfgClzUQ/
>>156241473baby boy schizo is angy. but i agree its the enceladus v attention grab image. andibait if you may use.
>>156228358cant she just hike it to glitch when KOG is done and all the 2d animators are freed up?
>>156217179So what is the plan for the story of this short? I've only seen it once but it doesnt look like a space adventure or something like that.
>>156241570Glitch is very selective with the show, but I'm sure they can help her get the partners she needs for the future.
>>156242350>I'm sure they can help her get the partners she needs for the future.That's not a bad compromise, all things considered
>>156217179she cute!
>>156217179What is this garbage
>>156246277Failed indie animated webseries
I gave the kickstarter about five hundred dollars after getting swept up in the hype. Kinda regret it.
>>156247020That is pretty much how investors feel except fuck them.
>>156217179Anyone got the tiktok short?
>>156241010People got upset over caitvi bondage art because “cops are problematic media” or some shit. Like arcane s2 didn’t produce that in the first place. It was also just nsfw stuff so why take it so seriously.
damn you all treat industry anons like dog shit, no wonder they all left and none of them post here anymore. christ
>>156248119and nothing of value was lost. also sba has enough hugboxing here that there is only like 3 people critizising this thing. valid criticism even. i used to like this back in the production days but now that i know how shalow her writing abilities were and how unashamed of a sellout she is, i pretty much started to dislike her.she is a good artist that still doesn't write well and it is in a time and place where she leans too much in wanting to get audience by cheap market tactics and doesn't really work in the deepth of the characters. unless you "give her more moneeey" get it? hmm This also happened with my perception of Kiana Kim. Its a shame people will get on that level to "get big" man i will say i don't mind industry people but i smell a scam/shilling of a shalow media when i see one from miles. its like FNF/HeartBound situation all over. Why i would bother with this when there is like 10 other ACTUAL ongoing indie projects THAT ARE MILES better than this?
>>156248165And you'll hate those othe indie cartoons the instant they try to make a profitYou don't like indie shit you just like obviously popular indie shitYou'd insult glitch but not look out for anything else companies Stop talking out your ass, you're not some connoisseur
>>156248430>>156248430????? uh oh i think i hit the sensitive spot!! because i said the truth? ma'am i love when the shows i like start to gain more audience and money for the crew! in fact they are doing it RIGHT NOW and I get guaratee new episodes of my favorite GOOD shows every year or so. Cool Creative And Actual funny stuff made with care and it is so good that i watch it Over and Over And Over again until the cd scratchs. I make semestral marathons of shit I love. I'm not doing it for enceladus V, TADC, Call All Villans, Because this is Trash. Bitch.
>>156248497also neither of the glitch stuff that has distribuition on netflix or shit that Viv Co produced that is in amazon prime is indie anymore, is pretty much a subdivision of corporate shit. AND is not good either.the stuff I like is still untouched and has creative freedom to keep ongoing and so far it still well made.
not to mention actual private studios hopping in the "indie" train to cash in it but failing to have decent writing on it. hmm mercury studios with the kiana mai pilot, uhhh flying bark recently with that janitors series. all style and no substance. making the fucking discord server to catch more free labor of newbies animators that they can exploit for "exposition" hahah. oh boy. what a shit show.
>>156248549My god you live live in a fucking butthurt world "Indie shit I like is getting popular ya_. Wait no indie shit I like is getting popular"Hey jackass ever though that TADC was the project that let Glitch rise in the ranksOr that something doesn't have to make you obsesse over it for it to be good or genuine.My god you're loke one of thepose fucking hipsters that drops shit when it starts "being in the know" and have such from strict standards that you can only enjoy the five same shows
>>156249083you not done yet letting this thread die?
also amazing you circle out of your way to avoid to talk about glitch and many of the other companies exploit the animators. by just calling me a "hipster that likes to watch the same 5 shows"?? curious.idk man i like to watch stuff that is both good and is not being evil and produced with slave labor and throught money laundering. not that deep or "in the know" to me i'm just an average joe that knows what it wants.
>>156249192My god you're a tool
>>156249407can you at least point out what i'm saying that is wrong and incorrect? so far your arguments are lazy made up stuff about me by your biased pov and right now you don't have any? just calling me a "tool" because? c'mon put some work in the reply at least.
>>156248119I've been in a few generals over the years and I can attest that artists that contribute to the thread attract retarded schizophrenics that shit on them for no reason. You could be milquetoast as hell and a seething fag will tank the quality of the thread with their retardation. It could stem from boredom but I always chalked it up to envy from the talentless. People like this is why thread OC can be so rare and they are better off slitting their wrists for chasing people away.
>>156217179I watched the pilot and it was aggressively bad. It seems the only thing you need to get /co/ hooked on a show is a cute waifu.
>>156249459You're a fag as well
>>156248165>and it is in a time and place where she leans too much in wanting to get audience by cheap market tactics and doesn't really work in the deepth of the charactersI feel like she's deliberately going for her dream show and not something that's "cheap market tactics". I am pretty sure mecha shows in 2026 aren't going to make anyone rich.Either way I enjoy seeing industry people ducking in anonymous basket weaving forums, this is what /co/ made for
>>156249875>It seems the only thing you need to get /co/ hooked on a show is a cute waifu.
I gotta be honest I don't remember even watching the fucking thing I just think the reverse trap is hot af
>>156252735Fair enough.
>>156234296seconding
>>156236749>indiawtf, based jeets?
>>156249875
>>156217179literally who
>>156217179Andi's hair is cool
>>156254932It's just a thread to check up on how SBA's doing and if this thing was completely dead.
Do you think this should be a graphic novel or something?
>>156256809Could work though the mecha designs would be hard to constantly redraw
>>156256809Graphic novel could be nice, honestly. A full fleshed out story or maybe a collection of many stories into one could give enough space to explore the characters.
I miss all the characters
tomboy pussy
>>156257034Make a 3d model and just trace over itManga does that already
>>156252005It's the interesting part of being in this corner. Especially as it becomes more and more obscure.
>>156234443I mean it’s better to go broke trying than to go broke underachieving
>>156258057same desu
>>156222816The creator did everything correct and delivered a tight product. The problem is that the product delivered didn't really have an audience. It seems that her talent lies in being able to build hype for and run an indie project.
>>156260377this is very bi coded
Robot looks like shit. Are you telling me this isn't just a gay Voltron knock off? Westerners really can't make cartoons to save their life no wonder the creator struggled.
>>156260499Wasn't Netflix Voltron already gay? That is why it failed. Woke era animation like SheRa. I hate that term but really the only good things in those shows were fueling erotica request in artist fan spaces. Along with fanfiction dot net support ship wars that were awfully cliche. You can't even FIND most of these shows on streams anymore. Sail the seven seas.
Look, all I know is that I want to sink all 9 into the smol tomboy. That's it. And porn of her is almost impossible to find.
>>156260672for such a niche request your only option is commissioning it yourself or AI.
no andi gf to call you gay why live
>>156260672like all nine what anon?
>>156260784:(
>>156260377cute!