>Chip Zdarsky talks One More Day, saying he understood the Spider-Man reset even if he would not have written it that way.>Zdarsky praises JMS, John Romita Jr. and Brand New Day, but says One More Day made Peter and Mary Jane feel fated.>Despite Mephisto contract fallout in Avengers and Captain America, Zdarsky insists he is not undoing One More Day.>Chip Zdarsky says Joe Kelly has the Amazing Spider-Man plans, while Avengers uses the Mephisto ripple as a wrinkle.>After the publication of Captain America #16 and Avengers #1, which saw Mephisto's contracts with mortals in the Marvel Universe ripped up, writer Chip Zdarsky has addressed the enduring spectre of One More Day, the 2007 story by J. Michael Straczynski and Joe Quesada that saw Peter Parker and Mary Jane Watson's marriage removed, sacrificed to save the life of his Aunt May, which still prompts strong feelings two decades on. But Chip Zdarsky says that he is not the writer who will reverse it. I previously reported on the developments in Captain America #16 and Avengers: Armageddon #5 teases that put Mephisto and soul contracts back into play, as well as the New York Comic Con trailers that already pointed in this direction.
>On the Dom Of X podcast, Chip Zdarsky says he loved the JMS and John Romita Jr. run and was glued to One More Day when it arrived. He is not a die-hard defender of the marriage, and grew up on soap operas where people died, marriages collapsed, and characters turned evil. He says he bounced out of Amazing Spider-Man during the Clone Saga, unhappy with how Mary Jane was written and with a moment where Peter struck her. He understood the impulse behind the reset, even if he would not have written it that way. "Like, once there's deal with the devil because your your love is so strong, it kind of enshrines that forever. I get why fans for decades now have have looked at that and been 'they were meant to be together'. Well, no one's meant to be together in fiction. That's not how it works. But that story really made it feel that way, by making it as big of a decision and so important. Overlooking the ups and downs of the relationship to make this a big martyr moment for them. So, I don't I don't know I would I probably wouldn't have written it that way. But also I enjoyed it, as a story and I super enjoyed the stories that came after it. I thought the Brand New Day initiative was so fun and so awesome.">And despite what seem to be the impacts of his Avengers and Captain America storyline, he's not the one to Un-One More Day it. "I'm not writing Amazing Spider-Man. I'm not writing a a Spider-Man story. I'm writing an Avengers story. Um you know, there's definitely I'm I'm playing with it a little bit. But I'm not Again, I'm not that I'm not the guy. Like Joe's doing a great job on Amazing Spider-Man. He's got plans. I'm creating a wrinkle for the Avengers, not for Spider-Man.
>Chip Zdarsky notes there is a famous contract in Amazing Spider-Man and those ripples will be felt. But Chip Zdarsky is writing an Avengers story, though he has coordinated with Amazing Spider-Man writer Joe Kelly on status quo details where needed, including scenes involving Aunt May and Peter to match current continuity. "I'm not the guy to bring those characters back together. It's my long way of saying that, right? I'm not that guy.">Here's a look at Avengers #2 by Chip Zdarsky and Marco Checchetto…>Spider-Man carrying an angel's sword on his back as Wolverine picks one up as well… say, any relation between the Howleys and the Howletts? As in James Howlett, Wolverine's birth name?>And after defeating the angels, Spider-Man chatting to Aunt May, who has forgotten her life with Peter Parker, and thinks of Spider-Man as a devil…>https://bleedingcool.com/comics/chip-zdarsky-talks-spider-man-avengers-mary-jane-and-one-more-day/
haahaha I knew it I just knew it was just bait and fish
>>156228507>Well, no one's meant to be together in fiction. That's not how it works.House of romance.How we feeling DChads?
Who actually still names their kid Chip.
>>156231716It's not his real name.
1. Duh. Marvel is not doing away with OMD any time soon.2. Even if they were, Zdarsky would still be saying the same shit because he's not the ASM writer. He's doing Avengers. This would just be the inciting spark for the "undo OMD" story that would happen over in the Spider-books by the Spider-Man writer. 3. They're never fucking undoing OMD. Stop being baited like retards. They've even cultivated a stable of writers that don't even really care about Pete/MJ or are against it.
>>156233088Marvel Comics will undo it, but not with this generation. We're still WITH the same fuckers who did it.It'll most likely happen long after the iron has gotten cold to do anything about it with the comics. Look for adaptations and things not 616 Spidey for anything good with the IP.
>>156233113Exactly. Like I said, not happening any time soon.
>>156233088I'm thinking Marvel will undo OMD, but will find some other excuse to never bring back the marriage. Either way, OMD has to go.
>>156233236I think the marriage will come back as well, but this is decade from now entirely new talent and editorial in office who have very different views on Spider-Man and Superhero appeal.
>>156233088>Even if they were, Zdarsky would still be saying the same shit because he's not the ASM writer.That's all well and good but then why is he going so far out of the way to call attention to the contracts. He didn't have to do that. I get that Doom is Satan now but they didn't have to out right say that ALL CONTRACTS ARE NULL AND VOID when they know damn well what the biggest contract is. Really the only contract that actually matters. It just seems like they're intentionally writing themselves into a corner they don't want.
>>156233390Because they know you're retards who will fall for the bait.You literally have Chip saying in OPs article that he's not undoing it, he doesn't even want it undone, and then comes up with some horseshit to take the blame off of OMD and put it on the readers for why we want it undone.... and you're still here deluding yourself that Chip is playing some 200IQ game and is gonna undo OMD.Marvel knows that you guys are cucks who will always cuck out at the even the smallest hint dangled that OMD might be undone or that Pete/MJ will get back together. Retards always fall for it.
>>156228870DC does the same shit. DC's "youthful" character is Robin/Nightwing. The've been edging him closer and closer to 30, finding excuses to age him down every major reboot, then walking it back when it doesn't make sense. The Batman books flipped a shit when Wolfman tried to marry him to Starfire in the 90s, then they spent the last 20 years playing will they won''t they with him and Batgirl.Or you can look at the mass de-aging they did to all the characters in the Nu52. Kill Superman's marriage, make him listen to Lois fuck other men, and make him 25 for a couple years.
>>156233422They are like starving cell-block inhabitants grateful for extra cracker crumbs.Come home romance lovers, you don't need be abused anymore.
>>156233497DC is a very interesting case, and you highlight two very interesting articles in it.Like you said, Nightwing is effectively trapped and caught between two offices having a tussle, with the almighty Batoffice reining supreme and not wanting to share, even if that really does forever relegate and overshadow Nightwing to forever be under the Batman shadow. Something funny on a meta-level he tried to get out of, this meant his relationships outside the Batcult such as the Titans and of course Starfire got to get shafted as well, so it's less an age and romance thing and more the typical sad office politics taking precedence over what's creatively best for the character. It's funny how the animated adaptations which generally have far greater reach, Dick typically gets with Cory anyway.And then again, we have the Brevoort doctrine given a few years to run in DC, they 'blink' because the crowd is pelting them with tomatoes and walk it back. Now they get to celebrate a marriage anniversary like they hadn't tried kill the golden goose, but at least are far better off than fucking Marvel.By far the best example IMO is the Bat-marriage debacle, because actual LCS got caught holding the bag with that one and that was just fucking shit to do to them.It's just a generational thing where marriage means the end of the story, the ball and chain. It's fucking wrong and usually the sign of a hack at the helm, but that's the way it be.
>>156233390That’s because you’re obsessed with OMD and can’t see Doom’s gesture from any other perspective
This again
>>156234046I love how they have nothing of actual substance anymore, so they can only b8 with what they keep saying was never important anyway.
>>156233552>It's fucking wrongNah, it’s true. Unless it’s marriage between two superheroes in the same team it’s a dead end for a solo book character. Go look up all the shit they did after they married when writers now had to try find things for MJ to do in the book beyond “honey, I made potrost after your busy day at supeheroing!” because she couldn’t just be an occasional date. She keeps getting stalked and kidnapped, having mental issues over Peter, Peter hits her while she’s pregnant, starts smoking before getting scared due to cancer scare, she and Peter go back to college but never graduates, oh now she’s a model again, now their marriage is going through another rough patch because Peter’s superhero life, etc. It keeps jumping all over the place because of how clueless writers are in terms of what can MJ contribute to the book beyond being empty arm candy.But at least it’s something. Look at how boring Linda is as a wife and mother in the Flash. They even tried giving her superpowers for fucks sake.
>>156234141Hack writers being hacks isn't the fault of the marriage, it's hack writers being hacks. Being unable to rely on the usual cliche ad infinitum is a good thing.
>>156234035Cynthia von Doom's plot was last seen addressed 37 years ago. Meanwhile Miles made a deal with Mephisto 7 years ago yet no seems to address it whatsoever. More addressings mean more frauds exposed, and that's a good thing. Dissociate Peter Parker and Johnny Blaze from Mephisto then be done with it.
>>156234159Oh so every writer since they got married is a hack now?
>>156228829I'm surprised that anyone is surprised by this, especially considering that the 'undo' happened in a fucking Captain America book.They're not going to undo fucking One More Day in someone else's book! They're not gonna undo Spider-Man's biggest mistake in a fucking entirely unrelated event that he has nothing to do with!
>>156234611Mephisto himself was introduced not as a part of Faust mythos to begin with. There are no Faust nor Faustian bargains, only Mephistopian bargains.
>>156234640Very insightful, I'm afraid I don't see how it's relevant.
>>156234141>Nah, it’s true. Unless it’s marriage between two superheroes in the same team it’s a dead end for a solo book character.If only there were some prior point in comics history in which Batman had been married to Catwoman. Perhaps they could have had a daughter or something.
>>156234574See what we mean when we say disingenuous?No, there are writers that used the marriage effectively to elevate the work emotionally and dramatically, and those writers who found it a drag or phoned in the typical ball and chain dynamic.The solution was to find writers of the former, rather than surrender to the more shallow wants of the latter. ASM lacks a soul, and has burned through its once famed cast to now Peter is effectively a bum with an amnesiac Aunt.
>>156234720You can’t marry them together because Selina can support a solo book and being tied to the Bat-family would ruin her entire gimmick as a thief.>But muh alternative continuity timelinesExist precisely to be brief teased and not something workable as a long term status quo
>>156234753>there are writers that used the marriage effectivelyHow did they use it effectively?
>>156234778JMD, JMS, those moves under DeFalco trying to give Peter more responsibility because that makes him more interesting, the big un' stories everyone cites. From making the personal stakes of villains intruding in Peters personal life actually mean something, like Chameleon, Kraven or Venom, to the Aunt May first (and should be canon) death and the family events Peter had with MJ among the chaos.BND took that out, they never got stories that have hit as hard or referenced as much. Those against the marriage can't actually point to the thing that justifies the action, only decry what came before as never being all that good.You need to point to the thing we are meant to love and be thankful for this direction.
>>156234772>and being tied to the Bat-family would ruin her entire gimmick as a thief.Literally half of the 'bat family' at this point are active criminals. And not just in the 'vigilante' sense, I mean leading street gangs and mobs.
>>156234772>alternate continuityAnon, the batman married to catwoman is the batman that appears in batman #1
>>156234692Marvel's Mephisto is a false premise. There is no point in legitimizing him in any book.
>>156234821And like most old golden age comics those were retconned to be Earth-2 stories and not main continuity. This is what allowed Batman to marry, get old and have a daughter
>>156234794>trying to give Peter more responsibility What responsibility? A consistent characterisation kept being for years that Peter kept neglecting MJ and causing her stress. It was basically shitting on Peter.>From making the personal stakes of villains intruding in Peters personal life actually mean something, like Chameleon, Kraven or Venom, to the Aunt May first (and should be canon) death and the family events Peter had with MJ among the chaos.Almost all of these would work even without a marriage.
>>156234876This is just head in sand thinking. Their bond was tried but not found wanting, it was made stronger for it and they became better people for it... until editorial.And no. Those stories needed the marriage to reach those heights. Imagine KLH without it being their honeymoon? Imagine Aunt Mays death but it's just MJ as the current girlfriend not MJ the wife Aunt May is entrusting her son with. Everything is lesser for this retcon. Nothing after is better for it.
>>156234866No, the people who made batman intended for batman to reform catwoman from a life of crime and fall in love in, and then twenty years later new authors came in and hated that shit and tried to make it not canon and make a new canon where batman was young and angry and punched children in the face.
>>156234890Those stories would still work without Mj having a ring in her finger
>>156234900It's not a matter of work, it's whether they are better which they absolutely are.And the OMIT explanation absolutely fucks up some of the motivations of previous plots.
>>156234904That’s a matter of subjective opinion
>>156234905You're entitled to your shit and baseless opinion anon.The BND era is a dull triumph of making banal evil win for frathouse antics.
At this rate, just give spider-man and his entire cast to DC comics, they treated Peter and Mary Jane better there in the crossovers than marvel.
>>156228507>Well, no one's meant to be together in fiction. That's not how it works.What a retard. That's exactly how it works. Fiction is DESIGNED with PURPOSE and INTENTION. It doesn't just happen out of nowhere.
>>156228486Why is Wolverine murdering an angel? How is Spider-man just ok with it?
>>156233113>We're still WITH the same fuckers who did it.Fabien Nicieza, who's idea it was, isn't EoC any more.
>>156235118Breaking MJ and Peter up was also designed with purpose and intent. Yet you’re crying about it still. Hypocrite.
>>156235239What purpose and intent? Pissing people off so a few meathead writers can live in some fantasy from their youth that never existed in the first place? To insert their shitty ideas and OC donutsteels into another's stories and then expect to be hailed as heroes? Or is it just plain old envy and malice towards other, better writers and the readers?
>>156228829Polish pedophile's translator doesn't work on metaphors, idioms, and other such turns of phrase.
>>156235706OMD is a story only a literal child rapist could love.
Isn't Joe Quesada writing a sequel to both OMD and OMIT right now, that would officially settle the post-OMD status quo once and for all, basically, undoing any relationship or history that Peter and MJ ever had together, while also rendering them to see each other as unworthy of dating, like, in best case, they could become some sort of acquaintances, nothing more than that? I don't know whether this One Day initiative set for June 2027 has anything to do with this story, but the story itself will definitely be called One [something] when Joe finishes it.
>>156234900Not really. Or at the very least not as strongly. Kraven's last hunt was right after their marriage and it really pushed the limits of what kind of fear was waiting for a super hero wife the same way a cop, fire fighter or soldier wife might fear. It really pushed Peter to his limits even more than the final chapter and how much he'd struggle to come back. It can only work if their love is absolute.
>>156235975https://www.thepopverse.com/comics-marvel-spider-man-one-more-day-one-moment-in-time-sequel-trilogy-joe-quesadaJoe Quesada said he had a concept in mind, but also said it wasn’t greenlit and he might not even make it.> “No, in case I decide to tell it,” Joe Quesada says during a panel at Megacon 2026. “Where Spider-Man’s current continuity is right now, I don’t know if it’s the right spot to tell it, but there is a story in there.”>Quesada went on to say that even if the story is never told, the first two installments served their purpose.“Continuity where it is right now” is PR speak for “nobody’s interested in his faggotry after Paul fucked everything over.
>>156234900And on the other hand with the exception of the retarded shit in superior there hasn’t been a story released since the start of brand new day that required a single Peter. Twenty years of story telling and not one memorable love interest and no good date stories
>>156236335Shay Marken was just a MUH GWEN character, she got into the same relationship problems Gwen had with Peter, repeated the same story beats, and turned out to be so boring that Joe Kelly seems to have just fridged her offscreen in favor of a random alien waifu he likes better. It turns out Muh Gwen was already completely played out as early as 1973.
>>156236416The Peter is berated by a date for being late IF ONLY THEY KNEWWWW shit is just battery acid plot at this point.
>>156234720There were no comics to refer to where that was a long-running status quo. Huntress was introduced for the first time as an adult woman where she was motivated to become a crime fighter because her mother died on one last heist, and then her father died a couple of years later. They did a flashback issue another few years later showing how Batman and Catwoman got together in the first place.
>>156236770What confused me is that despite the fact that Shay kept on breaking up with him, she’d inexplicably give him another chance and date him again , just like Gwen. But this bitch genuinely thought Peter left her to die in a haunted Chuck E Cheese.Either Shay secretly knew he was Spider-Man this whole time, or else she was bipolar and codependent.
>>156236416I'm not so sure that Kelly cares about Raelith at all. As far as he's concerned, the only person in Peter's life is his elderly aunt. He doesn't even have friends.
>>156236848He cares about Raelith more than he does Shay, at a minimum.
>>156236867Shay got literally left on read and written out, and the fanbase just laughed because that's how effectively Wells wrote her. Glorified grumpy bootycall.Raelith is a non-relationship relationship that gets displayed intimately anyway, if romance was written with any kind of skill here they could have a conversation about a friends with benefits situation very clearly displayed on panel and written becoming more in spite of themselves, but it's just more of the incoherent mess I've come to expect of Kelly's output. The dialogue is SO fucking bad and everything is highlighted in the equivalent of vidya game yellow paint. Aunt May suddenly around again and saying she's always going to be here for Peter? Gee willikers Kelly I wonder what this mysterious new relative around her is going to do? Considering we don't have any other cast left and have already introduced a new neverbeforeseen childhood friend to turn into a villain.We are having to crowbar shit into the past now.
>>156236923>>156236867Based on the comics, Peter has a deeper connection with the Technark he was wearing as a suit than Raelith. If Peter doesn't seem to be all that interested in her, there's no reason for a reader to at all unless you're hopelessly addicted to muscle mommy characters. She is covered in death flags for whenever Hellgate shows back up (fingers crossed for fucking never) anyway.
>>156237233Hellgate and Spore have both fucking sucked, Ravage is the only one with seemingly any staying power because Kelly outright gave up on trying to pretend this new villain was cool and just outright proclaimed him to be a pathetic piece of shit that’s somehow an even bigger and more dysfunctional manchild than current day Peter Parker.
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>>156235214Its the angels who started.
so does all of this OMD stuff and the marriage stem from a hatred of Jim Shooter?
>>156238056Hatred of what his decisions led to. The talent/616 he cultivated led to people like Gruenwald who actually cared about small details, immersion, and appealing to the demographic they chose when they started as a company. They diversified their line up and the demo they appealed to over time. But it was gradual with respect to the ongoing stories. He also cultivated people he was willing to disagree with and still handed jobs over to. He kept people like Owsley and Byrne. DeFalco is another of those types who while not as autistic as some others who focused on continuity, still recognized their audience and trusted themselves and the readers to focus on what was entertaining and to have a broad mind. Shooter's ethos of eventually paying creators more and his work in actually helping them is also something corpo Marvel never wanted and Quesadilla valued loyalty and willingness to shit over fan expectations so that attention was grabbed, nothing else. Shooter and others wanted stories that fit the characters. Quesadilla wanted stories but that's it. Not thought or restraint. He wanted restraint when it came to ease of surface level shit being able to be done. And the marriage requires sacrifices when it comes to the location, behavior, and timing of actions with Spider-Man. Logic and thought. When you want to exploit faggot whales, you want variants and headline grabbing shit. So yeah, Shooter is the antithesis. The only thing in common they have is perhaps tooting their horn too much.
>>156233268This.And it might be 15 years from now.Remember 15 years ago was just 2011.
>>156228486marywhorefgas are absolutely braindead
>>156238404Gwenturds are fucking retarded.
>>156235445Purpose and intent of not making Peter feel like a boring middle-aged man
>>156238670He still feels like a middle-aged man, just one of those ones who have no job, sponge off an elderly relative, and post on 4chan about how One More Day isn’t actually all that bad all day.They literally had to write an even bigger manchild for Peter to fight. Ravage is just Peter after another ten years of absolutely no movement in his life.
>>156238670Yeah, it's better to have Peter be a total fucking loser instead. Really setting those sales charts on fire, too.Marvel has an extremely poor sense of what readers want. They continually burn Peter's life to ashes and never replace what was lost with anything worthwhile. That's why he has no friends, no family, no job, fucking nothing. He's not even respected. It fucking sucks.
>>156238883Joe Kelly had to have Spider-Man just *pretend* his life is going great again, even though absolutely nothing fucking changed except he has a steady job with people who secretly despise him, before acting like we’re supposed to feel something when Hellgate blows Peter’s life up again even though all he did was drop another bomb on a smoking crater.He had to pull this random childhood friend, Brian Nehring, out of his ass because he ran out of supporting cast members to kill off, ruin, or turn into supervillains. He is literally making shit that’s built to fail, it’s the second best encapsulation of what a BND run should be. The best was Wells though, which was unrepentant faggotry from top to bottom.
>>156239011I still don’t understand why Peter came back to Earth or how it actually helps anyone. He was doing more good up there and was happier besides.
>>156228486>>156228507>>156228538Hey, so, apparently this is just Rich Johnston talking about the Dom of X interview that Zdarsky had prior to issue 1 coming out, and he gets some things wrong. When he said “I’m not the guy” he was referring to the fallout of the deal being annulled in ASM, and how it affects Peter’s relationships, stating that’s for Joe Kelly to decide. He still said Mephisto’s contracts are annulled and that’s going to affect Peter. Rich Johnston was just being retarded again and treating old news like some sort of stunning revelation Zdarsky said just now instead of two weeks ago already.Gwenschizo got baited by Rich Johnston of all people.
>>156237288Ravage would have a point if he had reined it in and not have cooked his adopted mothers brain, there is not a single fucking in-universe reason why Peter hasn't told Aunt May yet, yet the entire plot rests on it. I bet the amnesia plot will resolve WITH Peter telling her, and it will be the biggest whatever.Somewhere in all these spaghetti plots are somethings, but the execution has been a failure to launch each time.
>>156239011Spencer had Peter do the 'what the fuck is my life even' epiphany better, and actually gave him the building blocks towards a life that wasn't Slott gimmicks.Now post Wells and Kelly's blow ups, these epiphanies don't mean anything, Peter is sisyphus of an ant hill.>>156239097Muh Death Spiral, even though all Peter did was job and the plot would probably be better had VenoMJ handled it on their own and Paul been shown a selfish villain. Kelly can say it was planned all he wants, it wasn't and he clearly wants to have been writing GOTG with Peter.
>>156239415>Kelly can say it was planned all he wants, it wasn't and he clearly wants to have been writing GOTG with Peter.He should stick to that. There’s nothing fucking interesting going on earth, he has no meaningful connections to anyone down here, just have him go be a superhero in space permanently. Why did editorial think we give a fuck if Peter comes back to Earth or not?
>>156239472Muh events we gotta sell anon.We need Spider-Man doing nothing during Death Spiral so we can sell him, dying in Infernal Hulk so we can sell him, doing nothing but argue and lose to irresponsible MJ in QIB so we can sell him.As expected of Shogun-kun.
>>156239521Is it any coincidence that the incessant Muh Gwen shit the office does gets dropped as soon as the Polish guy gets fired as EIC?Now Spider-Gwen is going to be with Norman Osborn where she belongs.
>>156237955So? Spidey doesn't kill or stand for other people killing. Especially when the opponent is already down. Why is he making an exception now?
>>156239742They’re not really alive, and can’t actually be killed. Even stabbing them with their own swords just banishes them back home.
>>156239472>>156239415Wouldn't it get confusing in GOTG having two guys named Peter?
>>156239790NTA but he wouldn't know that and is only making assumptions like we are.I'm personally fine with it, no kill rules are just absurd in an active warzone/invasion scenario. If they want to make these versions of angels all mindless husk robot things so he can keep his hands clean, dull but eh.
>>156239796I dunno, how many Gwens are running around?
>>156239816No, Peter was explicitly told that hitting them with their own swords causes a teleportation effect, and he already saw Logan go all out on them with his claws only to accomplish nothing.
>>156239415Peter's life under Spencer was being unemployed for a long while, getting paid to stream while Spider-Man for one of Chameleon's shell companies, then getting fired from that and being unemployed again. His life wasn't together.
>>156239826And it's pretty confusing! Thanks Professor Warren.
>>156228486Hulk FUCK faggot puny Gwenschizo in his anus!
>>156230130Wally sucks too.
>>156240053Slott left Peter with a good job that would have brought the Bugle back into the books again and Spencer blew it up immediately out of spite then proceeded to use none of his cast
>>156237826Will Lucy survive the Absolute Universe?
>>156234414But Cynthia is in heaven already
>>156245185Doom still refuses to let that slide.
>>156242873Slottshills are so transparent in their shitty baiting.
>>156245276I think Slott is a hack but the science job at the Bugle was a good place to leave Peter. Ever since he go blacklisted from photography a huge chunk of his supporting cast has been adrift and this was finally a reason for Peter to interact with them again. Spencer tanked it for no reason other than a compulsive need to fix things that were past the point of fixing. The same was true for Kraven and Harry
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>>156246100It keeps working, the most basic breadcrumbs from the most disinterested hands.When will they learn?
>>156246149>It keeps workingNo one cares about staying in NYC that much huh?
>>156246176Oh not working to keep the status quo from crumbling beneath their feet, but enough to make the numbers jump up for as long as they can pretend this is going anywhere.
>>156246192Are the numbers big enough to ensure the interns that there's a path despite having a ladder kickers as their superiors?
>>156245352>compulsiveWow are you psychic or are you projecting a behavior you rationalized onto Spencer instead of looking for evidence? Slott's a different story since he endlessly talks with fans in petty arguments so we actually know his shitty behavior and shitty creative decisions are who he is, down to his core.Not defending Spencer. It's funny how you frame him. >Spencer tanked itHe used it more than others and had to use MJ more frequently to build up what he was going to do, until Lowe tanked that. He also used Felicia, Ned, Betty, Jonah, Randy, and more to flesh out the cast in every arc, switching out between those groups that made logical sense. Connors and Felicia are involved in Hunted because Kraven would categorize them as animals and she also is compassionate enough to help out Billy. So your idea of tanking the entire supporting cast isn't accurate.>true for Kraven and HarryHe was going to fix both OMD and Harry by undoing it which would then have Harry be dead and also have his redemption be done in one fell swoop. It's efficient and it rectifies the bullshit that OMD caused. How do I know? I looked at the build-up and what Spencer liked which is JMD's Spec issues with Harry. Harry still dies in the ending we got. Is it fixing when it also involves Harry reopening wounds and also involving all those villains showing how villains can delude themselves into making their problems other peoples problems?
>>156228829Don't you mean SWITCH?
>>156245276I don't want to defend Slott but consider it an indictment of the current state of affairs when he's the more attractive option
