I know I won't get a good answer here on all places. But, how come something like Static Shock and the Boondocks are fine but other cartoons tackling subjects like racism are "wokeslop"? What do you think is the difference between that and something like the Proud Family remake's episodes on it?
Static Shock and the Boondocks both came out during a time when woke niggers did exist but they could contain their gayness somewhat and produce something good.They can't do that now.
>>156231218Get nuance
>>156231218>well the difference is this came out when I was a kid so it's fine, but new stuff is bad
>>156231218I remember rolling my eyes at times at Static Shock, especially that episode where he went to Africa.
>>156231263No, one difference is these older shows could examine racism but also acknowledge problems in the black community as well. It seems like newer shows can't admit any flaws, or if they do they have to imply (or directly argue) that they're also actually the fault of white people. That's what people find tiresome.
>>156231218moon girl and dinosaur is fucking retarded thats why
>>156231218People want the MLK message not the intersectional identity politics one
People online are more vocally racist and executives who are as bad as them pander to that audience since they know that they can get away with it without acknowledging the quiet part loud.
>>156231218The Proud Family Remake is anti-white. Static Shock and the Boondocks aren't.The real question you are asking is "Why do white people like the Boondocks and Static Shcok but not 'insert modern show here'".
>>156231390You lost
>>156231391The Boondocks does lean into "look at whitey, isn't he dumb?" at times, but much less than you expect for a black power socialist (the creator) to do, and far less than the Proud Family remake.
>>156231218I’ll try to give you a good answer as an ex-leftist.Boondocks reads as right wing now because of what the left calls “responsibility politics”. It’s depiction of how the Black community sets itself back actually goes against the modern left’s idea that only kyric(powerful/privileged) groups hold responsibility.Static Shock does have a lot of leftist ideology in it but the messaging was easy to miss back then.
>>156231218Wokeslop shows are slop, these shows were good. That’s all there is to it. Addressing things like racism doesn’t inherently make a show wokeslop, it’s how portrayed and whether it serves the story and characters or not. That’s all there is to it.
>>156231218No, you see, the politics is why the adult cartoon fans stopped tuning in. The kids didn't watch the Proud family reboot because it's boring.
>>156231356this. people want the color blind equality message not the obama era intersectional equity DEI message
>>156231218All cartoons made after 2016 are wokeslop.
>>156231493>All cartoons made after 2016 are wokeslop.Steven Universe was in 2013 thoughbeit.
>>156231218Level of retardation. You could tell there was black guys who lived real life, and had enough self-awareness and writing skills to work on those showsEven Static Shock was corny on racial messages but at least fun to watch to a kid without frying their brains out
Hm, I wonder what Aaron McGruder has been doing since the Boondocks*GooglesNothing. I'm assuming he made his money and now lives in peace...Knowing that a blackman being president was a giant mistake.
>>156231522Last I heard he lives in Beverly Hills with his Asian wife.
Texas is blue.
>>156231528Sounds wonderful.
>>156231410Don’t deflect
>>156231218Boondocks is self-aware enough to recognize that black culture is retarded and ridiculous most of the time, but also tries to teach something. Wokeslop doesn't bother with parody or critique about minorities. It's scared of being called racist, but it still wants to shill diversity and inclusion, so it comes off incredibly fake and tacky. Most wokeslop shit tries to portray blacks, mexicans etc as white people both in the way they speak and act for that reason.
>>156231218Static Shock and The Boondocks were created/written by left leaning centrist black MEN instead of liberal white WOMEN. That's it. Even if it was "woke" the storytelling came from a real place and you gave more of a shit about the characters than the issue they faced that week.John Stewart on Justice League was way better as "representation" for me personally because of how powerful he was and how badass he was, especially when his ring was compromised and he had to fall back on his training as a Marine.t. black millennial who watched Static and the rest of the DCAU religiously and read the Boondocks comic strip as a kid
>>156231701Why are you unemployed Adventuretranny
>>156231218I didn't watch Static Shock but I know Boondocks gets away with because it's social commentary on black culture as a whole.
>>156231817>t. black millennial
>>156231932Nice coping
>>156231916Fuck off
>>156231218So the main thing you have to remember is that Static Shock and the Boondocks were GOOD.I know this is difficult to comprehend, but it turns out, overwhelmingly, people just care about whether or not a show is good.
>>156231764>Most wokeslop shit tries to portray blacks, mexicans etc as white people both in the way they speak and act for that reason.They think the rest of the world is Cal. Even most races they portray NEED to be visually stereotypical despite diverse phenotypes. Latinos will always be Tumblr version of le muchachos despite the quantity of light-skin latinos
>>156231817>JLA StewartChrist he's a gigantic step-up from the comic version
>>156231218Well static shock was basically a well written after school special, so it gets apt of flack. As fr the Boondocks it’s actually funny and isn’t just whiteman bad.
>>156231218People nowadays call those woke as well. Pretty much everything tackling racism is called woke. It's how it is in current year.
>>156231218It was more tactful and thus digestible to all audiences, instead of being gauche & deeply upsetting for most viewers
>>156231218Disney made a movie where all white people are psychopaths who torture animals and have to learn basic empathy and parenting skills from a black man. It was called Song of the South, people called it racist.
>>156231505>Steven Universe was in 2013 thoughbeit.True but it was made by a lgbtqlmnopobbq retard so it was poisoned from inception.
>>156231218>I know I won't get a good answer here on all places. But, how come something like Static Shock and the Boondocks are fine but other cartoons tackling subjects like racism are "wokeslop"? What do you think is the difference between that and something like the Proud Family remake's episodes on it?The better answer is that white women have taken over media and white women are fucking retarded.
>>156231528>McGruder had yellow fever all alongBased
those shows were made by real people. the new ones are made by corpogoblins.
>>156232381>Black guy who made an anime inspired cartoonShould have seen this comingWhat kind of Asian though?
>>156232401SEA 100%They're the easiest for any race to get Trust me
>>156231218The difference between "old woke" and "new woke" is that most of the people working on creative media had interesting lives and were well-read. Not only that, but they came from all walks of life and lived in a time where even just talking about issues concerning race, sexuality, gender, and other hot topics was something they had to actively fight for.In the present day, Blackrock rolling out ESG/DEI made this sort of thing a mandate across the board which meant there was not only zero quality control, but the creatives were replaced by rich kids who lived sheltered lives and were very much in favor of the status quo.You can talk about anything in a cartoon but you can't make it preachy. Nobody likes preachy shit because it puts the listener on the defensive rather than actually building a dialogue with the audience.
>>156232401Does this mean that Huey is destined to eventually marry Ming in the future?
>>156231218Media in general was better back thenI don't even think it's specifically a problem with the new peopleWriters of older shows seem to have lost their touch as well
>>156231218Discretion. Writers were adults that wanted to communicate racial issues to kids without alienating them, and were aware more than their intended targets would see the shows, even if they remained niche.Modern day writers are emotionally stunted zealots who treat social issues like a religion, only care about preaching to others like themselves or bullying others into agreeing with them. >>156232015Only the post-00s comics. He still fails in comparison to 90s John.
>>156231218>What do you think is the difference between that and something like the Proud Family remake's episodes on it?The difference is the year they released and how brainrotted the general public was. People like>>156231236 weren't turned into reactionary retards yet
>>156231218Because unlike most woke shows from nowadays, those shows>were made by actual black people >they were down to Earth about the problems on society, specially among the black community >they didn't keep using victim cards>they taught black kids and kids from other races to understand each other's issues and sides and be better persons instead of brushing issues under the rug >was an attempt to unite people, not divide them
>>156231218Noticed this when i was reading old spider-man issues and comparing them with miles morales comics.Basically instead of defeat bigotry and injustice by union of every race, they changed it to tribalism "us vs them"
>>156233011>just look at [direct results of woke intersectional DEI zeitgeist]retard
>>156233024There's a lot more nuance on display than that.Notice how there's doubt that things will be okay in the old issue, there's a back and forth about what it MEANS to be black, there's a god damn discussion going on.In the new one miles is just being told that he's a part of a black community.Iunno if this is a fair comparison when talking about woke then vs. woke now though... 'cuz I think this is more just awful, awful, AWFUL modern marvel writing.
>>156233104>Iunno if this is a fair comparison when talking about woke then vs. woke now though... 'cuz I think this is more just awful, awful, AWFUL modern marvel writing.Isn't that part of the discussion? that "woke then" had better writting vs "woke now" that feels like it will sink, due to the many holes on the logic of their messages?
>>156233166Yeah but, DC can be woke too, and they tend to not be as obnoxious as often.Marvel is just especially bad.
>>156233281>Also what the fuck is the second comicA lawsuit in the making, to recover my wasted time, reading 15 years of this shitty character history.
>>156231218>I know I won't get the answer that I want to hear.That's right anon, you won't. You'll get the answer that conforms to realitly. To that point, Static absolutly had woke ideology in it. Such as Static going to Africa and saying he felt at home there. Because he's black...do you get it? And let's not forget the gun episode. That said, it was better than most modern slop at containing it's wokeness and the entertainment had yet to be utterly saturated in it, it was baby steps at that point.
>>156231356Shame that was just MLK pull the wool over our eyes.Being a kid is think MLK was rightBeing an adult is knowing late stage Malcolm X was right.
>>156233541>Such as Static going to Africa and saying he felt at home there. Because he's black...do you get it?this shit will always be hilarious to me because the only people who think jamal from compton has any cultural commonality with actual africans are insane americans
>>156231438>responsibility politicsIm left wing and you are the first person i have ever heard use that term. I dont know anyone who thinks this
>>156232245>shit that tackles racism by saying everything is whiteys fault is wokeHit the nail on the head.
>>156233558>Shame that was just MLK pull the wool over our eyes.Your english is terrible are you even American or did you immigrate there? (Just assuming you're american or something because MLK was lol.)
>>156233024Shit like this is exactly why Miles will only ever be Miles.
>>156233325I rage deleted my posts because I didnt want to see that comic tomorrow. I somehow ended back here. I keep falling for racial bullshit please help me fight the brainrot
>>156233221DC is just as obnoxious and have been for longer.
>>156233563I find it hilarious watching these Youtube vids of blacks going to Africa thinking they'll be greeted with open arms when all they get is African's looking down their nose at them worse than any white guy in America ever did.
>>156233612Anon, are you having a stroke or are you possessed?
>>156231263Luckily I didn't have the channels that those shows came out on when I was a kid so I always know these arguments are bullshit. A lot of the 90s and 10s cartoons I've watched was actually in the late 10s and 20s, so there's no nostalgia or anything attached. Cartoons were just better then.
>>156233673#90s and 00s and even early 10s
>>156231218Those shows don't have the modern versions of leftist ideology.
>>156231306Yeah, the term ally is throw around for a reason, modern discourse dosen't like a balace view you are either in the team or not. That is why the modern comic changes the gang war gone wrong with a peaceful protest that the cops just scalate with mutant gas for no reason.
>>156231218"White guilt" bullshit didn't exist back thenVirgil never resents richie for what his father said, if it were made today he would blame him for being white
>>156233617Miles and Riri were made by a rich white man, so of course they failed to capture an actual audience.
>>156232975Why did that post make your neo-vagina sore? Was it the nigger word?
>>156231218The Boondocks unironically spends more time shitting on black people than any other race and shows how the prejudices against them don’t exist in a vacuum.
>>156233558Fucking retard. Even dummy like me knows “late stage” Malcolm X famously rejected his prior racial divisiveness views and believed MLK’s equality messaging was better, after being a soul-affirming pilgrimage to Mecca. Contrarianism has rotted your brain.
>>156233104God I fucking hate what modern fags have done to Jameson...
>>156233024>I've ALWAYS given you your HEAD, sonlol gay
>>156233623plug out for a while1 month without social media (yes, this site is social media) & spend time with yourself & think about who you want to be and how to achieve it then hopefully you'll not want to engage with the same troublesome things that you used to.Good luck.
>>156231218In short, you have to acknowledge reality and present it like it is first, only then can you address it. Otherwise you're not tackling race relations, but a completely made up topic.It helps that boondocks was funny to anyone regardless of race, but ultimately it recognizes that nigger problems are caused by niggers and their nigger behavior.Anyway I don't know about any of the other ape shit you talk about.
>>156231218In the case of Static Shock, displays of racism was more so a PSA thing, black shows back then often had an episode or two that tackled the subject, but didn't let it detract from it;s intended entertainment purpose too much, and those episodes had proper storytelling to flow naturally with the dynamics of those shows. The problem with how they handled it in the Proud Family is that it didn't have a natural flow nor good storytelling behind, it just had the main cast break character in order to preach and protest to the audience. The Boondocks on the other hand was fully intended to be a political commentary show, but it embraced all the negative experiences and stereotypes of being black in America, and transformed it into satire comedy.
>>156231218Didn't they build the social commentary on Static's backstory as having a social worker father and a paramedic mother that died during a gang riot?Static was built from the ground up to be at least partially about social commentary and so did Boondocks. You are already in for the ride and then they can expand into more goofy shit after they say their piece.
