https://deadline.com/2026/11/dc-studios-james-gunn-peter-safran-leaving-1237217374/
>>156236865Oh no Gunnbros, we got got too cocky!
>James Gunn & Peter Safran outYEAHHHH!!!!! FINALLY!!!>Fomer Marvel exec Jeremy Latcham inFuck offDC was succesful when it was an option againtst the MCU rather than trying to be the MCU
>>156236865They’re really still gonna keep trying huhDoomsday is going to crack a billion and DC in turn will put a billion into movies and get nothing in returnHow relentless
>>156236865Kara killed the DCU...
This is mostly because he bet the farm on Supergirl and it backfired, right?
>>156236865Sadly Zack moves to Netflix
I mean, he is okay
>>156236896I think the Batman shit, or lack thereof, also fucked him. I don't know what the plan there was
>>156236892Kara gave the final blow but it was never fully established. Nobody care for Creature Commando and Pedoman underperformed
>>156236865WELL I’M A FIRED BITCH YES I AM
>>156236896Superman only grosssed 618 million. I feel like he was already walking a fine line regardless of how the next movie turned out.
>>156236975>wait until the Reeves trilogy is done (never ever from the delays)>cast another Batman and run the risk of audiences being baffled at there being two Batmen>just don't have Batman at allAll bad options; the only option that could have worked would be to somehow force Pattinson to be his Batman but I doubt he had the leverage for that
>>156237033Pattinson probably would have done it
Calling it now: Man of Tomorrow will underperform, The People vs. Gorilla Grodd will be the last entry in the DCU, and Warner Bros. will resign itself to making nothing but Batman movies and one Superman movie each decade for the rest of time
>>156236896I think if it was Supergirl bombing they'd have at least waited to see how Man of Tomorrow performs. A bomb (Supergirl) and two film that did okay (Superman and Clayface) isn't enough to bring down studio heads.Honestly I get the feeling Gunn got burnt out quick and saw an exit with the Ellisons taking over. Peter Safran is allegedly on the running to take over as Netflix's film chief.
>>156237071I wonder what made Gunn quickly reconsider considering he just did that podcast
>>156237060I don't know, wasn't Pattinson only Batman because of Reeves? I've seen people defend the idea of two Batmans at the same time, that audiences would be fine with it, but I'm skeptical about it.
Time for Dwayne to takeover DC
>>156237107Pattinson seems to me like he would do anything as long as it's interesting and it's not like he only wants to do a few movies a year
both Taika and Gunn done
Lanternsisters...
>>156237071Clayface has only made $109 mil after two or three weeks in theaters, that’s hardly doing okay
>>156237107It could work, the Gunn Batman would have had to be very tonally distinct, which could have lead to criticisms about goofy shit but that would have been the only way to do it
>>156237096If Peter Safran indeed takes over as Netflix's film chief, it was likely that. If not, who knows. Maybe he just didn't like Skydance.I don't really think he was fired due to Supergirl because that puts the Ellisons in a situation they'd rather avoid right now. If the Ellisons were going to fire him, they'd do it a year from now and not right after they bought Warner.
>there will be no Tom King Wonder Woman moviethis is a win
>>156237147With a 30-44 million budget, it should make a small profit
>>156237147They can at least know they're going to break even which is more than what Supergirl can say
>>156237155I’ve been saying the DCU Batman should take cues from the silver age/Brave and the Bold type of stuff to set itself apart from The Batman being so dark and grittyIf the DCU Batman doesn’t have a blue batsuit and the Batcave doesn’t have the T. rex statue or the giant penny, I’m not showing up.
>>156237155I think it would have been doomed; DCU Batman would have to have been the older Batfamily type which is good and all, except it wouldn't work when Superman is younger.
>>156237156That would make sense>>156237159Who's to say the next guy won't greenlight it?
>>156236957This resume screams to me that they’re keeping everything as is for the most part and just finding a guy who’ll actually start working on a Wonder Woman movie and not waste time with Creature Commandos season 2
>>156236865These faggots had the golden goose of the an mated universe and did nothing with it.There was no need for anything else but follow the cartoons and they fucked it up.
The new guy isn't any better or worse than gunn.
>>156237183me
>>156237179Just have him be young but still have the goofy family stuff. Yeah the timeline wouldn't make sense but who cares
>>156237198Yay
>>156236865lmfao DC fucking sucks, always has sucked, meanwhile Marvel is still kicking despite all the post Endgame bombs
>>156236957He's not the worst pick, but saying "replacing Gunn with an MCU producer" is not a win in any book.
>>156237195Anyone is better than Gunn.
>>156237195This is the biggest hit-or-miss portfolio of all time. But it's especially worrying that his last movie was the fucking Breadwinner.
>>156237252>>156237271You people are never happy, are you?
It makes sense that James Gunn directed a movie featuring a sentient planet named Ego because James Gunn’s ego is roughly the size of a planet.
>>156236865FUCK YOU ELLISON ANS FUCK YOU ZASLAVNOW ALL YOULL MAKE IS MORE MCU CRAPOLLA
So are they going to reboot Superman again or what
I really bet this is because of the director of the Batman films, he left the sequel twice, and gunn let him..
Were definitely gonna get a proper Hal Jordan Green Lantern film now.The guy who runs warners now, made top gun and loves the military.
>>156237289Bro, he made The Breadwinner. Have you seen that shit? I'm also not a Snydertard who wanted Gunn out, sudden creative resets like this are ass for any franchise.
>>156237060Pattinson hates playing Batman (he hates staying in shape) and would never commit to a cinematic universe nowadays. He’s only doing Part 2 because he is contractually obligated to do so.
What this change really means is that Ellison is now in charge of DC. This new producer is a yes-man who's just there to be told what to do. None of the decisions moving forward are really his, it's just Ellison speaking through him like a puppet.
>>156236885>DC was succesful when it was an option againtst the MCU rather than trying to be the MCUNo it wasn't.
>>156237469>he hates staying in shapeBullshit, he screen-tested for James Bond. He does not hate being in shape if he wants to be Bond.
What will I do without my Rick Flagg Sr. kino?
Who cares the best DC movies are animated
>>156237469Didn't he recently say he would do Batman movies forever if he could
>>156237195>executive producerliterally a non-credit
>>156236865Clayface was great though and it made like 3x it's budget, what's the deal?Did Gunn just got tired of it all?It can' be because he got canned, because otherwise Snyder would've got canned ages ago considering his fucking up during his DC tenure.Also, what about Safran, what's his story in all of this?
>>156237360Anon, there was nothing Gunn could. WB gave Reeves full control of his own Batman universe. They signed off on the contracts. Gunn wanted to make his own DCU Batman but can’t because WB doesn’t want multiple Batman’s confusing normies. It is WB’s fault for approving The Batman in the first place and not having the foresight to realize having a separate Batman universe going at the same time as your main universe was a dumb idea.And it is Reeves fault for dragging his fucking feet making a sequel and not just deciding to quit and move on from Batman when he clearly doesn’t have any emotional investment in the project.
>>156237490James Bond is not actually a role that requires a superhero build
I hope DC reverses all the gayness to 0.
>>156237524>Did Gunn just got tired of it all?That's what it sounds like based off his Threads announcement
I had to watch the Breadwinner because my parents dragged me to it and they like that guy's comedy. It was like pulling teeth sitting in the movie theater.Ugh...my parents are nice people and they have taste. But for some reason when it comes to comedy they like normie shit like Big Bang Theory, parts of modern SNL, and Bargatze. I know they're normies but...it's still weird to see them sit there and occassionally laugh at it in mild chuckles or genuine laughter while my mom gives nervous laughs for some jokes that are just bland misunderstandings.
>>156237528But still good-looking enough to be convincingly the giga chad fucking all the ladies and saving the world.
>>156236896If I had to guess, they want more mainstream heroes and not random D Listers
I loved Superman, Creature Commandos, Peacemaker, and Clayface.Lanterns was meh, and Supergirl was bad.Overall I liked the Gunnverse.
>>156237524>Clayface was great thoughNo it wasn't, and after Gunn leaves you'll never think about it again.>made like 3x it's budgetIt only broke even, they didn't profit 110 million dollars you idiot. Theaters take a cut of the box office gross.
>>156236865KNEEL TO THE SNYDERGODS
How does DC even find the money to keep making movies?is selling Batman themed pajamas to the parents of 5 year olds really that lucrative?
>>156237611great is an exaggeration, but it was definitely a good movie, certainly better than Supergirl.also the budget is only $42 million, and it will certainly make a bit more than 3x that in gross at the end of it's run, so it would definitely make a profit.Most movie companies would kill for a box office run like that.
>>156237071There's some more factors there, though.You mentioned Clayface, but that film was more of an opportunity cost problem than an actual budgetary or box office one, since it got fast tracked to completion at most likely the cost of other works.Lanterns did just about okay, viewers wise, but it apparently might have cost an exorbitant amount of money. It also ended up dividing it's viewerbase massively, which spells trouble for any potential follow up.Then there's stuff like creature commandos, which no one cared about.And then there's the fact that Gunn's plans were nebulous and he seemed prone to ambivalency and also seemingly wanted to focus on c and d listers while ignoring the heavy hitters DC does have outside of Superman.Also, on that topic; No one outside of the US cared at all about the DCU. No one. That's a huge issue that probably irked WB higher ups even before the hand over - and that's also another aspect to consider, as the new studio owners most likely wanted to bring in their own people anyhow.
>>156236865what does safran even do?
>>156237793makes your food yellow
>>156237159but they will release the tom king mr miracle show
>>156237524Making a profit on a $42 million movie is a drop in the bucket when you're fucking $50+ billion in debt, especially in the current economy.
>>156237741>It also ended up dividing it's viewerbase massivelySo it was a massive success after Reynolds disaster
>>156237822Are you not supposed to make profit? Most movies cannot do billions at the box office and chasing that just ends uo costing you billions in losses
>>156237845You're supposed to make a profit on the $300+ million movies, a studio like WB wants (and needs) to pull in at least $6-8 billion gross from their movies per year, they need Disney level box offices, which they expected from shit like Superman and Supergirl, the latter of which was a giant fucking bomb.
>>156237845>Are you not supposed to make profit?We're talking a couple million at best profit for Clayface. This ain't Obsession which literally made back 500x it's under 1 million budget.
>>156237741>creature commandos, which no one cared aboutfuck you
>>156236865How many times is WB going to fail making a DC universe and reboot?
>>156237741>You mentioned Clayface, but that film was more of an opportunity cost problem than an actual budgetary or box office one, since it got fast tracked to completion at most likely the cost of other works.Anon, it was likely the other way around.The reason why Gunn and Safran likely pushed up Clayface over other movies "starring A-list characters" was probably because Warner was (very likely still is) cash-constrained and there isn't enough money going around to finance multiple $200 million movies a year.Like I'm sure Gunn isn't dumb enough to not realize he needed a Wonder Woman or a Batman movie. But when Warner is being acquired and paying a shitton of debt there isn't enough money going around to do those projects. So you do a Clayface movie for $40 million because it's the only thing you can do (remember the original intention was to do Guadagnino's Sgt Rock and even that was too high-budget).Given Skydance's debt situation is just as bad as Discovery's I'm not too certain this will improve in the short/medium-term.
>>156236865Lanterns was the nail in the coffin. It was an abomination of the IP, let alone the fact it was a TV show.It’s funny watching some r*dditards say “omg dc can’t catch a break, it’s so over.” Lmao DC is finally saved! It was literally held hostage by a pedophile that was allergic to accountability and common sense. He spent his final days arguing with fans on threads and did an entire podcast episode dedicated to the canonicity of TSS where almost all his answers were “I don’t know…maybe…I guess”. I don’t care who is in charge, just give me my faces of DC and make it epic. Anything outside of the big 5 is a waste of time and money.
>>156238003$25 million per episode is nuts, that's like prestige TV territory.Lanterns feels more like a slightly better polished CW show.
>>156238003Lanterns was racebait trash but I hope we can keep Hal and John's actors somehow, they were the only redeemable part of the show.
Notice how everything went to shit when he deliberately started to make a cinematic universe rather than just focusing on stories that just happen to take place in the same world?>>156238232I want an actual dark skin black man for John. Also the premise of the show should’ve be given to Martian Manhunter
>>156236865That suicide squad podcast was the cause of this.
>>156236865I feel like the podcast caused this.
>>156238232racebaiting in comics has been going on since the 1970s.
>>156238327We're not in a comic thread, we are under no obligation to pretend this was good just because old because boomers did it.
>>156236865Is the DCU cursed?
>>156237489Way more succesful than the gunnverse
>>156238327This page was a laughing stock in the DC community, even parodied by later comics
>>156236865And nothing of value was lost.
>>156236865Why even make DC movies if none of them are profitable enough?
>Starts universe with Superman movie, but it isn't a Superman movie, it's not a origin story, it's a team up movie>have to recon Peacemaker in order to bring him over from the Snyderverse into the Gunn verse, making this universe, that's only beggining, into a confusing mess.>introduce Rick Flag senior on a cartoon, but he looks completely different in Live action>Follows up your already underperforming Superman movie with a Supergirl spinoff, it flops>The whole Lanterns fiascoHonestly, he fucked up so bad, it became impossible to ignore, good on WB for not letting him fail upwards, not forever at least.
Apologize.
>>156238258>want an actual dark skin black man for JohnI would've taken that nigga who played Morpheus in Matrix 4.
