https://deadline.com/2026/11/dc-studios-james-gunn-peter-safran-leaving-1237217374/
>>156236865Oh no Gunnbros, we got got too cocky!
>James Gunn & Peter Safran outYEAHHHH!!!!! FINALLY!!!>Fomer Marvel exec Jeremy Latcham inFuck offDC was succesful when it was an option againtst the MCU rather than trying to be the MCU
>>156236865They’re really still gonna keep trying huhDoomsday is going to crack a billion and DC in turn will put a billion into movies and get nothing in returnHow relentless
>>156236865Kara killed the DCU...
This is mostly because he bet the farm on Supergirl and it backfired, right?
>>156236865Sadly Zack moves to Netflix
I mean, he is okay
>>156236896I think the Batman shit, or lack thereof, also fucked him. I don't know what the plan there was
>>156236892Kara gave the final blow but it was never fully established. Nobody care for Creature Commando and Pedoman underperformed
>>156236865WELL I’M A FIRED BITCH YES I AM
>>156236896Superman only grosssed 618 million. I feel like he was already walking a fine line regardless of how the next movie turned out.
>>156236975>wait until the Reeves trilogy is done (never ever from the delays)>cast another Batman and run the risk of audiences being baffled at there being two Batmen>just don't have Batman at allAll bad options; the only option that could have worked would be to somehow force Pattinson to be his Batman but I doubt he had the leverage for that
>>156237033Pattinson probably would have done it
Calling it now: Man of Tomorrow will underperform, The People vs. Gorilla Grodd will be the last entry in the DCU, and Warner Bros. will resign itself to making nothing but Batman movies and one Superman movie each decade for the rest of time
>>156236896I think if it was Supergirl bombing they'd have at least waited to see how Man of Tomorrow performs. A bomb (Supergirl) and two film that did okay (Superman and Clayface) isn't enough to bring down studio heads.Honestly I get the feeling Gunn got burnt out quick and saw an exit with the Ellisons taking over. Peter Safran is allegedly on the running to take over as Netflix's film chief.
>>156237071I wonder what made Gunn quickly reconsider considering he just did that podcast
>>156237060I don't know, wasn't Pattinson only Batman because of Reeves? I've seen people defend the idea of two Batmans at the same time, that audiences would be fine with it, but I'm skeptical about it.
Time for Dwayne to takeover DC
>>156237107Pattinson seems to me like he would do anything as long as it's interesting and it's not like he only wants to do a few movies a year
both Taika and Gunn done
Lanternsisters...
>>156237071Clayface has only made $109 mil after two or three weeks in theaters, that’s hardly doing okay
>>156237107It could work, the Gunn Batman would have had to be very tonally distinct, which could have lead to criticisms about goofy shit but that would have been the only way to do it
>>156237096If Peter Safran indeed takes over as Netflix's film chief, it was likely that. If not, who knows. Maybe he just didn't like Skydance.I don't really think he was fired due to Supergirl because that puts the Ellisons in a situation they'd rather avoid right now. If the Ellisons were going to fire him, they'd do it a year from now and not right after they bought Warner.
>there will be no Tom King Wonder Woman moviethis is a win
>>156237147With a 30-44 million budget, it should make a small profit
>>156237147They can at least know they're going to break even which is more than what Supergirl can say
>>156237155I’ve been saying the DCU Batman should take cues from the silver age/Brave and the Bold type of stuff to set itself apart from The Batman being so dark and grittyIf the DCU Batman doesn’t have a blue batsuit and the Batcave doesn’t have the T. rex statue or the giant penny, I’m not showing up.
>>156237155I think it would have been doomed; DCU Batman would have to have been the older Batfamily type which is good and all, except it wouldn't work when Superman is younger.
>>156237156That would make sense>>156237159Who's to say the next guy won't greenlight it?
>>156236957This resume screams to me that they’re keeping everything as is for the most part and just finding a guy who’ll actually start working on a Wonder Woman movie and not waste time with Creature Commandos season 2
>>156236865These faggots had the golden goose of the an mated universe and did nothing with it.There was no need for anything else but follow the cartoons and they fucked it up.
The new guy isn't any better or worse than gunn.
>>156237183me
>>156237179Just have him be young but still have the goofy family stuff. Yeah the timeline wouldn't make sense but who cares
>>156237198Yay
>>156236865lmfao DC fucking sucks, always has sucked, meanwhile Marvel is still kicking despite all the post Endgame bombs
>>156236957He's not the worst pick, but saying "replacing Gunn with an MCU producer" is not a win in any book.
>>156237195Anyone is better than Gunn.
>>156237195This is the biggest hit-or-miss portfolio of all time. But it's especially worrying that his last movie was the fucking Breadwinner.
>>156237252>>156237271You people are never happy, are you?
It makes sense that James Gunn directed a movie featuring a sentient planet named Ego because James Gunn’s ego is roughly the size of a planet.
>>156236865FUCK YOU ELLISON ANS FUCK YOU ZASLAVNOW ALL YOULL MAKE IS MORE MCU CRAPOLLA
So are they going to reboot Superman again or what
I really bet this is because of the director of the Batman films, he left the sequel twice, and gunn let him..
Were definitely gonna get a proper Hal Jordan Green Lantern film now.The guy who runs warners now, made top gun and loves the military.
>>156237289Bro, he made The Breadwinner. Have you seen that shit? I'm also not a Snydertard who wanted Gunn out, sudden creative resets like this are ass for any franchise.
>>156237060Pattinson hates playing Batman (he hates staying in shape) and would never commit to a cinematic universe nowadays. He’s only doing Part 2 because he is contractually obligated to do so.
What this change really means is that Ellison is now in charge of DC. This new producer is a yes-man who's just there to be told what to do. None of the decisions moving forward are really his, it's just Ellison speaking through him like a puppet.
>>156236885>DC was succesful when it was an option againtst the MCU rather than trying to be the MCUNo it wasn't.
>>156237469>he hates staying in shapeBullshit, he screen-tested for James Bond. He does not hate being in shape if he wants to be Bond.
What will I do without my Rick Flagg Sr. kino?
Who cares the best DC movies are animated
>>156237469Didn't he recently say he would do Batman movies forever if he could
>>156237195>executive producerliterally a non-credit
>>156236865Clayface was great though and it made like 3x it's budget, what's the deal?Did Gunn just got tired of it all?It can' be because he got canned, because otherwise Snyder would've got canned ages ago considering his fucking up during his DC tenure.Also, what about Safran, what's his story in all of this?
>>156237360Anon, there was nothing Gunn could. WB gave Reeves full control of his own Batman universe. They signed off on the contracts. Gunn wanted to make his own DCU Batman but can’t because WB doesn’t want multiple Batman’s confusing normies. It is WB’s fault for approving The Batman in the first place and not having the foresight to realize having a separate Batman universe going at the same time as your main universe was a dumb idea.And it is Reeves fault for dragging his fucking feet making a sequel and not just deciding to quit and move on from Batman when he clearly doesn’t have any emotional investment in the project.
>>156237490James Bond is not actually a role that requires a superhero build
I hope DC reverses all the gayness to 0.
>>156237524>Did Gunn just got tired of it all?That's what it sounds like based off his Threads announcement
I had to watch the Breadwinner because my parents dragged me to it and they like that guy's comedy. It was like pulling teeth sitting in the movie theater.Ugh...my parents are nice people and they have taste. But for some reason when it comes to comedy they like normie shit like Big Bang Theory, parts of modern SNL, and Bargatze. I know they're normies but...it's still weird to see them sit there and occassionally laugh at it in mild chuckles or genuine laughter while my mom gives nervous laughs for some jokes that are just bland misunderstandings.
>>156237528But still good-looking enough to be convincingly the giga chad fucking all the ladies and saving the world.
>>156236896If I had to guess, they want more mainstream heroes and not random D Listers
I loved Superman, Creature Commandos, Peacemaker, and Clayface.Lanterns was meh, and Supergirl was bad.Overall I liked the Gunnverse.
>>156237524>Clayface was great thoughNo it wasn't, and after Gunn leaves you'll never think about it again.>made like 3x it's budgetIt only broke even, they didn't profit 110 million dollars you idiot. Theaters take a cut of the box office gross.
>>156236865KNEEL TO THE SNYDERGODS
How does DC even find the money to keep making movies?is selling Batman themed pajamas to the parents of 5 year olds really that lucrative?
>>156237611great is an exaggeration, but it was definitely a good movie, certainly better than Supergirl.also the budget is only $42 million, and it will certainly make a bit more than 3x that in gross at the end of it's run, so it would definitely make a profit.Most movie companies would kill for a box office run like that.
>>156237071There's some more factors there, though.You mentioned Clayface, but that film was more of an opportunity cost problem than an actual budgetary or box office one, since it got fast tracked to completion at most likely the cost of other works.Lanterns did just about okay, viewers wise, but it apparently might have cost an exorbitant amount of money. It also ended up dividing it's viewerbase massively, which spells trouble for any potential follow up.Then there's stuff like creature commandos, which no one cared about.And then there's the fact that Gunn's plans were nebulous and he seemed prone to ambivalency and also seemingly wanted to focus on c and d listers while ignoring the heavy hitters DC does have outside of Superman.Also, on that topic; No one outside of the US cared at all about the DCU. No one. That's a huge issue that probably irked WB higher ups even before the hand over - and that's also another aspect to consider, as the new studio owners most likely wanted to bring in their own people anyhow.
>>156236865what does safran even do?
>>156237793makes your food yellow
>>156237159but they will release the tom king mr miracle show
>>156237524Making a profit on a $42 million movie is a drop in the bucket when you're fucking $50+ billion in debt, especially in the current economy.
>>156237741>It also ended up dividing it's viewerbase massivelySo it was a massive success after Reynolds disaster
>>156237822Are you not supposed to make profit? Most movies cannot do billions at the box office and chasing that just ends uo costing you billions in losses
>>156237845You're supposed to make a profit on the $300+ million movies, a studio like WB wants (and needs) to pull in at least $6-8 billion gross from their movies per year, they need Disney level box offices, which they expected from shit like Superman and Supergirl, the latter of which was a giant fucking bomb.
>>156237845>Are you not supposed to make profit?We're talking a couple million at best profit for Clayface. This ain't Obsession which literally made back 500x it's under 1 million budget.
>>156237741>creature commandos, which no one cared aboutfuck you
>>156236865How many times is WB going to fail making a DC universe and reboot?
>>156237741>You mentioned Clayface, but that film was more of an opportunity cost problem than an actual budgetary or box office one, since it got fast tracked to completion at most likely the cost of other works.Anon, it was likely the other way around.The reason why Gunn and Safran likely pushed up Clayface over other movies "starring A-list characters" was probably because Warner was (very likely still is) cash-constrained and there isn't enough money going around to finance multiple $200 million movies a year.Like I'm sure Gunn isn't dumb enough to not realize he needed a Wonder Woman or a Batman movie. But when Warner is being acquired and paying a shitton of debt there isn't enough money going around to do those projects. So you do a Clayface movie for $40 million because it's the only thing you can do (remember the original intention was to do Guadagnino's Sgt Rock and even that was too high-budget).Given Skydance's debt situation is just as bad as Discovery's I'm not too certain this will improve in the short/medium-term.
>>156236865Lanterns was the nail in the coffin. It was an abomination of the IP, let alone the fact it was a TV show.It’s funny watching some r*dditards say “omg dc can’t catch a break, it’s so over.” Lmao DC is finally saved! It was literally held hostage by a pedophile that was allergic to accountability and common sense. He spent his final days arguing with fans on threads and did an entire podcast episode dedicated to the canonicity of TSS where almost all his answers were “I don’t know…maybe…I guess”. I don’t care who is in charge, just give me my faces of DC and make it epic. Anything outside of the big 5 is a waste of time and money.
>>156238003$25 million per episode is nuts, that's like prestige TV territory.Lanterns feels more like a slightly better polished CW show.
>>156238003Lanterns was racebait trash but I hope we can keep Hal and John's actors somehow, they were the only redeemable part of the show.
Notice how everything went to shit when he deliberately started to make a cinematic universe rather than just focusing on stories that just happen to take place in the same world?>>156238232I want an actual dark skin black man for John. Also the premise of the show should’ve be given to Martian Manhunter
>>156236865That suicide squad podcast was the cause of this.
>>156236865I feel like the podcast caused this.
>>156238232racebaiting in comics has been going on since the 1970s.
>>156238327We're not in a comic thread, we are under no obligation to pretend this was good just because old because boomers did it.
>>156236865Is the DCU cursed?
>>156237489Way more succesful than the gunnverse
>>156238327This page was a laughing stock in the DC community, even parodied by later comics
>>156236865And nothing of value was lost.
>>156236865Why even make DC movies if none of them are profitable enough?
>Starts universe with Superman movie, but it isn't a Superman movie, it's not a origin story, it's a team up movie>have to recon Peacemaker in order to bring him over from the Snyderverse into the Gunn verse, making this universe, that's only beggining, into a confusing mess.>introduce Rick Flag senior on a cartoon, but he looks completely different in Live action>Follows up your already underperforming Superman movie with a Supergirl spinoff, it flops>The whole Lanterns fiascoHonestly, he fucked up so bad, it became impossible to ignore, good on WB for not letting him fail upwards, not forever at least.
Apologize.
>>156238258>want an actual dark skin black man for JohnI would've taken that nigga who played Morpheus in Matrix 4.
>>156237966>The reason why Gunn and Safran likely pushed up Clayface over other movies "starring A-list characters" was probably because Warner was (very likely still is) cash-constrained and there isn't enough money going around to finance multiple $200 million movies a year.That's correct (especially when you remember Zaslav was trying to shelve stuff for tax credits) but I'll also addThey can't do a Batman movie because of whatever conflict is going on with Matt Reeves' projects. Remember that Zaslav was shelving stuff and canceling JJ Abrams' projects. Why give Reeves a lot of leeway? My guess is that whatever it cost to payout his contract is more than just letting him do The Batman Part 2. Plus The Batman Part 1 was one of the few DC films that did financially well during the post-Snyder, pre-Gunn era; and by the standards of the Post-COVID era.Lanterns was probably fusing together two pre-Gunn projects, the HBO Max show Berlanti was gonna do (showing different Lanterns in different decades) and whatever the DCEU planned for Hal and John in films (there was a rumor pre-COVID that WB wanted Tom Cruise to play Hal Jordan, but Cruise objected that Hal dies in the script). It probably didn't matter to Gunn as Guy was the GL he wantedWonder Woman probably couldn't be used because they wanted to wait till Gal Gadot's contract expired/get some distance from WW1984Superman they could do because there was distance between BvS and Superman 2025The Flash movie and Aquaman 2 were sent out to die so they likely weren't gonna use those two so soon
>>156236865Supergirl killed DC
>>156236865DC Studios Shakeup: James Gunn & Peter Safran Out, Former Marvel Exec Jeremy Latcham In>In a seismic executive shuffle unlike anything Bruce Wayne could pull off at Wayne Enterprises, James Gunn and Peter Safran are leaving their posts as Co-CEOs and Chairman of DC Studios, jobs which they’ve held for the past four years. The dynamic duo will continue to produce on various DC projects and returning to their full-time creative work. They’re currently in post on the Superman sequel, Man of Tomorrow which will open in theaters on July 9, 2027.>Taking over the comic book entertainment label as President and Chief Creative Officer is former Marvel SVP of Production and Development, Jeremy Latcham. He starts the position on Dec. 1 and reports to Skydance Motion Picture Group co-chairs, Dana Goldberg and Josh Greenstein. Duly note the tweak here in the reporting structure of DC: Initially the DC Bosses reported straight into the CEO (previously Zaslav, post-merger David Ellison and Ynon Kreiz. Now DC like the other Warner film labels reports into Goldberg and Greenstein.>Latcham worked with Gunn previously on Guardians of the Galaxy. Latcham shepherded such mega MCU franchises as Iron Man, Guardians of the Galaxy, Spider-Man and The Avengers. He will lead DC’s film, television and animation slate, overseeing the creative pipeline, along with production, talent and strategy.
>>156239632>The news hits today as DC’s new parent, Skydance, is reporting their third quarter earnings.>For some, the dynamic duo’s departure is a bit of a shock as sources told us that they were staying post Paramount’s acquisition of Warner Bros. However, word was out there that Safran’s contract was expiring in the spring. His name was floated for the film boss job at Netflix under newly installed Film Content Chief Peter Rice, however, from what we know, Safran and Rice haven’t sat down.>Gunn and Safran were put in charge of DC by former Warner Bros Discovery CEO David Zaslav as he strove to create a motion picture production label strategy on par with Disney’s. The hiring of Gunn in a creative production executive position was arguably an anomaly: Few filmmakers have led studios; Charlie Chaplin being one of the most notable ones. Gunn and Safran took over DC at a time when the label was waning under the Zack Snyder universe. Zaslav wanted a universe that was built out across film, TV and games. The former WBD boss was adamant about making a Superman movie, and former WB Motion Pictures bosses quietly contracted Gunn to start writing his version before he landed the job with Conjuring producer Safran.
>>156239655>During their tenure, they saw the airing of the Matt Reeves’ produced 9x Emmy-winning HBO Max series, The Penguin, a spinoff of the filmmaker’s The Batman starring Colin Farrell. That series was well in the works before Gunn and Safran arrived at DC. They also had two seasons of the Emmy-nominated HBO Max series Peacemaker, which was a spinoff of Gunn’s 2021 Suicide Squad movie starring that pic’s anti-hero played by John Cena. Let’s not forget the animated HBO adult series Creature Commandos. Gunn’s Superman rebooted the franchise a fourth time since the Man of Steel hit the big screen in 1978 with a $618.7M global gross. Their HBO Max series, Lanterns, was a viewership success and their lower budget Clayface with a net $44M production cost was No. 1 worldwide for two weeks in a row, that James Watkins-directed pic’s cume now at $109M WW. Upcoming is Reeves’ The Batman II which has Robert Pattinson returning in the title role and Steven Soderbergh finishing in London for a Feb. 18, 2028 release. Also upcoming for DC in 2027 is The People v. Gorilla Grodd, the eight-episode HBO Max series starring Skyler Gisondo as Jimmy Olsen and Jimmy Tatro as Gorilla Grodd has completed filming. Gunn and Safran serve as executive producers. >A big miss for Gunn and Safran was the Craig Gillespie directed Supergirl which cost a net $186M and grossed only $126.4M WW. A graphic novel which was True Grit in its story, the Superman spinoff arrived a year after Gun’s Man of Steel movie, and was perceived by fanboys as being too similar to other fantasy movies, i.e. Mad Max and Guardians of the Galaxy.
>>156239679>Gunn and Safran had a big plan for DC, announced as “Gods and Monsters” in January 2023. It will be interesting to see what projects Goldberg, Greenstein and Latcham keep intact. There was early buzz of James Mangold circling a Swamp Thing movie, and Andy Muscietti penning a version of Batman Brave and the Bold. Of the projects Gunn and Safran announced which wound up fizzling after being long in development was the Peacemaker spinoff series Waller starring Viola Davis, Paradise Lost a series set in the Wonder Woman-verse, Booster Gold and an Authority movie about a bunch of DC antiheroes. Gunn said in February 2025 on social that Authority “is a very big movie, if you’re going to do it properly. Some of the story elements perhaps that are in Superman and some of the other films we fast-tracked, step a little on The Authority … [It’s] the one that got messed with through all of the other things that were happening. The script had a harder time coming along.” >In fact, Gunn announced recently he was working on a screenplay for a new feature project. What’s the status of that mystery project?>It’s been a while since Latcham has been in the superhero space. He left the Kevin Feige led Marvel in 2017 to found Latcham Pictures, which held first-look deals at 20th Century Fox, Hasbro, and Wonder Project. He produced Bad Times at the El Royale and Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves. Recently, he held an overall deal at Hasbro Entertainment, where he was developing a Dungeons & Dragons sequel and an Action Man film. He’s also producing Lionsgate and Sony’s big screen take of anime Naruto which has Spider-Man: Brand New Day‘s Destin Daniel Cretton directing.
>>156239697>David Ellison, Chairman and CEO, and Ynon Kreiz, Co-CEO, of Skydance said in a statement about today’s news, “James and Peter launched a new era for DC Studios and led it through a period of real transformation, resetting the foundation and building a slate we’re incredibly proud of. We’re grateful for their passion, contributions and commitment to this legendary brand. Jeremy has been a longtime creative partner to both, and we have complete confidence that James and Peter will ensure a smooth, collaborative transition and continue this work with care. We look forward to working with Jeremy to build the next generation of DC storytelling and to doubling down on our commitment to fans.”>Said Gunn and Safran: “Four years ago, we set out to unite DC under one creative vision. In that time, we helped restore Superman to the heart of DC, while opening new doors and telling new stories in film and television with Peacemaker, Creature Commandos, Lanterns and Clayface. We’re immensely proud of the team that turned that ambition into something real, including the actors, crews and executives we had the opportunity to collaborate with. We’ve shared a creative history with Jeremy going back to Marvel, and we’re eager to see the perspective he brings to DC’s next chapter. We’re excited to return to what drew us to this job in the first place, which is telling the stories we love, including the next chapter of Clark and Lex’s journey in Man of Tomorrow.”
>>156239715>Gunn also posted the following to IG: https://www.instagram.com/p/Dfh3WS1mLwK/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=AVgcOi1xFdYL8Qui47Bcm_q>“Jeremy brings a deep reverence for DC and its passionate fanbase, recognizing that they are the very foundation of this storied, multigenerational brand,” said Goldberg and Greenstein. “Under his leadership, every film and television show will be ushered from start to finish through the prism of the legions of fans who love and champion it. Jeremy’s track record exemplifies the excellence he will bring to building out DC and the many beloved characters within it.”>“DC’s pantheon of characters is among the most iconic in American popular culture. I’ve had the privilege to help bring some of the most celebrated superhero stories to life on the big screen, and I’m excited and honored for the opportunity to now lead DC Studios into its next era. The chance to steward the incredible cast of DC characters to the screen in a way that excites lifelong fans while introducing their timeless stories to the next generation is a massive responsibility that I do not take lightly,” said Latcham. “I am grateful to Dana and Josh for putting their trust in me. I can’t wait to work night and day alongside filmmakers, comic book creators, artists and storytellers of every kind, across film, television and animation, to build something ambitious for longtime DC fans and newcomers alike.”
>>156239715So, are they reseting the universe or not?
>>156239752They have to wait and see how MoT does. If it bombs, they reset or quit.
