HOLY FUCKING SHIThttps://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/dc-studios-shocker-james-gunn-peter-safran-stepping-1236750902/
DC? More like Delicious Cope
I guess Clayface didn't do that well huh
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!What about the next Superman movie?
>>156236902Clayface did fine, this is 100% Supergirl, the fact that he didn't have a plan, and the fact that it was clear he didn't really have the makings of a studio head.
>>156236870>Paramount won't fire Gunn>Paramount won't mess with DCYeah.DCU is cooked again. Why can't we ever get a successful DCU
>>156236920>Clayface did fineIt hasn't broken even yet
>>156236935As long as they keep the cast, DC is fine. Gunn clearly didn't have a plan, he put together a good cast, but holy fuck was it just a bunch of random shit
Holy fuark...Little indian 12 year olds are powerful...Waku waku...
>>156236919Yeah man I really wanted to see Brainiac make dick and fart jokes :(
>>156236870OH NO NO NO NO
>>156236870Why the FUCK didn't he immediately cast Batman or force Robert Pattinson to be his Batman?
>>156236935>Why can't we ever get a successful DCUMoore's gypsy curse
YOU REALLY HURT MY FEELINGS, LEX!
>>156236960Get ready for the merge
>>156236870He could have made his own batman film between the 2 reeve films
Damn, he lasted about as many movies as The Rock, LMAO
Has anyone kept count of all the failed attempts to launch a DC movie universe? They'll be starting from zero again after this. Once again they'll hire someone that technically could carry on from the previous person, but they won't because they'll have their own vision.
>>156236950Yeah I'm not actually too sad about this? Gunn was just pushing things he liked
I refuse to believe modern movies cost endless amount of money for how cheap and lack luster they are. The actors are often so dullard that you barely can tell when they are acting. It is like they are just mouthing lines on people without emotional neutral exposition because it is easier to translate overseas.
>>156236950>he put together a good castNo he didn't. He's the one who cast Supergirl and her movie was a huge turd.
>>156236996They just need to do standalone movies for now that are only loosely connected
>>156237015That's what they've been doing and that's why this universe hasn't worked
>>156236995The Rock was only around for one film, wasn't he? He had an entire slate of films planned and it was basically going to be "The Rock beats up the DC Universe"
>>156236994It would have been directed by The Flash guy, no one would have wanted that
>>156237027Superman was not only loosely connected. I was more thinking of something like The Batman
I don't like Gunn but I was really curious how the super cynical black pulled Lanterns stuff was ultimately supposed to gel with his Hopecore Superman shit. Maybe he really had no plan though.
>>156236870>they still hadn't cast batman or wonder-womanSo what exactly was Gunn's plan for the Batman stuff? Is this really all Reeves' fault for hogging him?
>wins>keeps winning>GAPED DCucks like no other>Doomsday looking to be over 3 billyHow does he do it?
Well shit, there goes Creature Commandos Season 2.
Haven't read yet but at some point the struggle over Batman will come out. Not being able to use him and probably trying a million ways to make it work ultimately destroyed them. The crime trilogy or whatever was obviously supposed to wrap up way sooner or just be the two. A studio head said early on he didn't want more than one Batman. That meant no DCU Batman point blank. They could have made it work with a lighter more superheroic mainline take like superman and call pats an elseworld or its own thing and audiences would buy it. The studio heads didn't. So I'm sure they tried to angle pats in the DCU again a million different ways but no dice, especially with the clusterfuck of the delay. Had the DCU been able to start cranking out a solid Batman movie, filming the second now, having bat centricv series etc, it'd be standing today. The story of whatever happened there, in full, will be interesting.
Can WB please stop trying to force a DC universe now thenGunn was their 3rd attempt
>>156236870I wonder if Gunn will still be part of the DCU as a creative, he was just talking not long ago about already planning Superman 3
>>156237029Yeah and Superman was the only that's out that Gunn directly worked on. He barely touched Supergirl even if he's responsible for it it. Everything else was TV shit no one watched. So all he has over The Rock is a movie that isn't out.
James Gunn is done with capeshit.Good for him.
>>156237066Oh thank god.
>>156237077Only MoT, grodd, and producer credit on Batman 2
>>156236870Well, how many failures does one have to churn out and lose money before a decision needs to be made?
Just sell DC to Disney. At least Feige knows how to make a cinematic universe.
That's fucked, here comes another attempt at a universe that will get changed up in a few years
>>156237077They just fired him today and they no reason to honor films thst haven't started shooting yet.
>>156236870So they're just fucked forever huh
>>156237047Adria Arjona was/(is?) WW
Fuck! Fuck! I was looking forward to Jimmy Olsen's show! This would've destroyed Marvel
>>156236870>Supergirl bombed really badly>Lanterns is a divisive fucking mess that Game of Thrones the ending>Clayface has not made its budget backWell, yeah. At this point it's clear that Superman was the fluke and everything else is just not good enough.
>>156236870Wow, and I was really hoping for moronic dumbass Brainiac that made cartoon dumb guy jokes played by Batista.
Why the fuck was Gunn greenlighting obscure shit instead of the big stuff? It's not a Marvel situation where they didn't own the rights, he just chose not to
>>156237102I already know he's got projects coming out, I'm thinking about anything not properly announced>>156237110As the CEO, yeah. I would like to know if this is where his entire involvement with the DCU stops
>>156236870But /co/ told me Clayface was a hit! And that Lanterns saved the new DC cinematic universe!
>>156237047He expected to have the first come out after Batman two and back then talked about how they'd be in different universes and tones. The plan was no not release them in the same years to not confuse audiences.
>>156236870Nerdrotic and EFAP won
Why are the DC animations perfectly fine minus a few movies or really changes. Yet the films so fucking cursed. Just get people who worked on the animations to work on the films...
>>156236996They really need to just fucking stop with the shared universe shit. No one can feasibly pull it off. MCU did it for about 7-ish years then that fell apart. Everyone else' attempt was a miserable failure. Hollywood needs to cut that shit out.Or they need to keep it entirely a background easter egg thing like NBC did with their 90s shows like Seinfeld, Mad about You, Cheers, Friends, and ER were kinda sorta in the same universe and every now and then someone crossed over to another show but that was it.
Redpill me about the new guy
>>156236919Super tax writeoff more like
>>156236870Fucking finally.
>>156236870>HawkworldDid Gunn ever say anything about adapting this because it does kind of fit the weird tone he was going for with this universe.
>>156237149I'm not sure, this likely killed them dead even if there was time and money in thier development. They may even try to wrestle with him over man of tomorrow as far as editing out or cutting short stuff that points toward his larger plans and films, first and foremost wonder woman.
>>156237177Would be the ultimate irony
>>156237173Produced some Phase 1 and 2 Marvel stuff, the Chris Pine Dungeons and Dragons film, and that shitty film The BreadwinnerHonestly don't know what the Ellisons see in this guy, maybe they picked him because he's a jew
>>156236870>CAN YOU SMELL WHAT THE ROCK IS COOKING?the powers will fall into his hands again
Can you believe there was a time when we loved him for GotG? We were so naive.
>>156237202He was talking a lot about Batman as of late too, hinting at World's Finest being the direction he was takingHe hasn't even cast Batman yet though, and he confirmed the initial plans for the movie had changed
THIS CANT BE HAPPENING WE WON THE MIDTERMS WTF
>>156236996>Justice League: MortalKilled by the recession>Green Lantern 2011Sucked and bombed>SnyderverseSucked but was successful >Johns/HamadaverseSucked and bombed>The RockSucked and bombed>GunnverseSucked and bombed
I TOLD YOU NIGGAS
>>156237153Bro it's Batman people will see both
>>156236920Pretty much this, you want Gunn cranking at it. Not being an executive.
>>156236920No one does movies for them to just do fine. Oh they recovered the money they spent! they need to earn money. Not recover. Even if they made a little money, these movies are 2 years investments, you cant waste 2 years of your life of your money for just recoving your money. Physical media is dead. The dcu is not selling any merch other than corensweet superman. There wasnt a single toy announced for clayface. Its not a charity, dumbass.
>I GUSSED RIGHT NIGGASwater wet
>>156236870At the end of the day, he was making Literally Who shows and cartoons instead of a simple "Superman -> Batman -> Wonder Woman" movie progression. Nothing lost IMO
>slept her way to the top for no reasonLmao
In hindsight this was a really impressive case of wasting your employer’s time and money before they fire you
>>156237257You would think so but this DC
>>156236870>makes one good superman film>makes one bad supergirl film>refuses to elaborate>leavesWhy is Gunn like this /co/?
>>156237336>Superman>GoodIt was so good that it flopped
>>156237280It’s so sad how bad movie tie in toys for kids are nowadays. They weren’t excellent in the 2000s/2010s exactly but they weren’t this bad.
>>156236870>Doom buries DC even before his movie is outThis is some hypercrisis shit.
>>156236936It’s roughly done it’s budget three times over at this point. That is good for a lower budget studio comic horror movie
Regardless of what happens now, all I want to see is Batman confronting Clayface>>156237336Technically he didn't make it, but he did greenlit it, and that was after saying that he wouldn't do that for a film if the script wasn't good enough
>>156237054This board will keep denying it but the guy actually course corrected after the clusterfuck that was 2023. However you feel about TBolts, FF, Wonder Man, BND and other recent stuff, they are at least better than the crap they were producing during the Chapek era. BND being such a massive hit and Doomsday tracking to brake records will most certainly help the brand in the coming years.
>>156237361ATP they should just say Clayface takes place in the Reevesverse
>>156237142Because they tried forcing that already and it didn’t work
Hope DCucks are ready for the endless stream of BatSHART in the near future.
>>156236870>replace gunn with some rando MCU producerGreat yet another good thin paramount/skydance ruined. Fuck this shit decade
>>156237142He didn't read the room and thought audiences were still in the 2018 mindset of "consume absolutely anything capeshit", instead of the clear signs that they're only watching the heavy-hitters nowadays.
lol & lmao
>makes Supergirl incompatible as a role model >makes Frankenstein a vengeful incel>kills Hal Jordan>refuses to elaborate >leavesT-thanks...
>>156237246And yet the animated stuff was popular, and they could have spend the last 2 decades enjoying those in theatres, if only they hadn't been chasing Disney's taillights.
DEMOCRATS DO SOMETHING
>>156237207>and that shitty film The BreadwinnerOH FUCK NOThe trailer for that piece of shit was one of the most sanitized cringe inducing trailers ive ever seen
I don't see how the DCU recovers from this. DC as a cinematic brand is effectively dead.Like I'm seeing DC fans on Twitter going "oh the next guy will surely focus on Wonder Woman and Batman and Teen Titans" and guys, it's dead. Those are not gonna happen.Like I'm sure Skydance is dumb enough to try again but they have already burnt out their audiences with a DC Cinematic Universe that didn't come together twice (Snyder first, then Gunn) and audiences won't forgive them. A Wonder Woman movie is gonna do sub-Supergirl numbers.
>>156237066Good
>>156237374Ugh...fucking Holland and those movies are such milquetoast, woke dogshit.
>I loved Superman, Clayface, Peacemaker and that's it.Wow, Supergirl really killed the DCEU.
>>156237378Does Batman even have any stories left to adapt?
>>156237433Mindbroken
>>156237404>LJNWhoa...it was there the whole time...
>kills your franchiseHe wasnt even that bad but it was clear they ware trying to force him as a mascot and gave him much MUCH more screen time than necessary and then the very next movie has him as a main focus again.
>>156237374I liked Thunderbolts, BND and Wonder Man, but FF was kinda bland despite some interesting setting design and costumes. They need a director with a visual edge, not some TV guy.
>>156237420If The Batman 2 does well they'll say that the new DCU will take place in that universe
>>156237447Enjoy Jean's alienating actions and muties being dindu nuffins while Holland gets pegged by Zendaya.
>>156237054>>156237374ladderbro pls
>>156237466Jean being a controversial character has been a thing for decades. It was a big thing in BOTH incernations of FoX-Men!
>>156237458Krypto isn't even one of the many issues with Supergirl, I dare to say he was the best part of that film with the limited role and screentime he had
Soon.....
>>156237330Kek
>>156237501In 20 years we will have a DC/SW/MCU crossover.
Lanterns did this.
>>156237335James Gunn is a slumper now
>>156237523Anon, you can't post gore on blue boards
>>156236870>has appointed former Marvel exec Jeremy Latcham to the post of president and chief creative officer of DC Studios.>hiring another Marvel plant for the third time in a row to be in charge of DCHahaha oh wow, you cant make this shit up!!!
>>156237523LMAO.
He literally just released a podcast talking about if Suicide Squad was canonThis shit happened immediately after that trainwreck
>>156237440Not this anon, but following up: according to James himself he wasn't fired, he just couldn't handle the pressureI think you couldn't notice that if you consider his social media activity
I guess he's still going to be making films just not running the studio, the whole DCEU/DCU project was so obviously reacting to the MCU that it was never going to work.
>>156236870That cuck got what he deserve
>>156237563*could
>Released both the worst film of the year AND the worst TV show of the yearGood riddance.
>>156237563shouldn't have wasted so much time responding to social media comments and getting angry at journalists
I'll forever stick to my Gunns (pun intended) Supergirl flopped was that for starters the main actress wasn't that attractive to begin with, simple as
>>156237535I doubt it did on its own but that clip of his Guy getting whipped by Lindolf's John was probably a really easy way to highlight the lack of vision in Gunn's cinematic universe.
>>156236870what does that mean
More like James GoneS to spit
>>156237246Don't forget the Burtonverse with his cancelled Superman movie
Is Tom King out?
>>156237535It was 100% for sure Supergirl.
>>156237563hollywood executives never admit when they're fired because it's embarrassing. if it was just james who was tired, why did safran with the more difficult side of the job also step down?
what the fuck was this nigger's job anyway?everybody talks about gunn, but never safran.
>>156236870I really don't care about him or DC.
>>156237653Well, he probably wouldn't have much reason to lie. If anything, he seems relieved that he's no longer CEO
>>156236870It was clear he was not going to work with Zionist David Ellison and it was step down or be fired
>>156236870I knew he would rather die than make a Wonder Woman anything. Get fucked you hack, you should've made a Batman movie day one.
Can Scrappy Doo finally come back to Scooby Doo cartoons proper now?
>>156237535Green Lantern could've easily been a space opera adventure, I don't get why they went with a gritty, detective story. Actually, I can think of one reason being they were convinced the Ryan Reynolds movie left such a stink on the character that the completely opposite direction of that would be the best option.
>>156237666he does damage control i guess
RIP Threads userbase
>>156236936> You need 3 trillion on a 20 million budget to break even
>>156237374>BND being such a massive hit and Doomsday tracking to brake records will most certainly help the brand in the coming years.BND is part of a movie franchise they don’t own, and to get people interested in Doomsday, they had to bring Chris Evans and RDJ back because they have no faith in the current Avengers lineup. The jury is still out on the future of the MCU.
>>156237142He's a hipster who likes the D-lister stuff more. So am I but you can't build a big cinematic universe money making machine off Creature Commandos and Peacemaker
>>156237722Asians seem to love using it so they have that
>>156237666Gunn said he handled most of the "business" side, which he said he didn't want to do here >>156237563
>>156236870>Good Suicide Squad movie>Mid Superman movie>Shit Supergirl movie>Mid first season if Peacemaker>Shit second season of Peacemaker>Shit Creature Commando cartoon>Shit not-Lanterns tv showGunn's legacy will be shit.Forever the Specials guy that was afraid if 12 yr old indians
>>156237336Superman was fucking garbage I don't understand why so many people pretend it was good.
>>156237687>notorious liar James Gunn has no reason to lie about being fired againI have a bridge to sell you, anon
>>156237597Kek, he's really not cut out for this
>>156236870gunnjeets on suicide watch
>>156237733Holland's Spidey is deeply integrated with the MCU, and both Disney and Sony have said that the partnership is not a one-sided thing since it ultimately benefits both companies. Pretending those films shouldn't count as MCU is pure contrarianism.
>>156237714>Green Lantern could've easily been a space opera adventureNo, it couldn’t.
>>156237767>>156237563>>156237597More evidence that Ranjeet Rajindahar, the Dhalit of New Delhi got his ass.
Peter principle strikes again.just because you're a good director doesn't mean you'll be a good executive.
>>156237735why is green lantern jobbing
>>156237795Thats all a Green Lantern anything should be.No one liked Hard Travelling Heroes
>>156237823>why do fish swimHal jobs all the time
>>156237764Who the fuck cares about the reason?The guy himself says the shoes were too big for him
>>156237791They still don’t own the Spider-Man movies. Who knows? Sony could decide to have Holland and the new director do solo movies on their own. They can do it.
>>156237314>"Superman -> Batman -> Wonder Woman" movie progression. Nothing lost IMOfor some reason DC is incapable of doing it i guess because it's too good of an idea
Ouch. Guess he wouldn't obey his masters.
Why is DC so quick to wipe the slate clean?Snyder and Gunn both ejected as quickly as possible. They would have killed the MCU by Thor 1 if the roles were reversed.
>>156237854They can, but Marvel is making better movies for them without them having to do anything. Spidey in Doomsday and Secret Wars gives them more money with less investment on their end. And now they had the biggest movie of all time with BND, so they have more reasons than ever to keep the partnership.
MOT and Gorilla Grodd shows are set in stone as they have already been filmed and are in post-production. Creature Commandos S2 is in limbo as I think it's been on the works for a while and without Gunn, so that could get cancelled, but will very likely be released.Any project that wasn't in full production is dead. The Amazonians show, Amanda Waller show, Blue Beetle, Bane & Deathstroke, Brave and the Bold, all done. That one Poison Ivy show they just announced is cancelled.Animated shows that are ready for released will be published, but will not be renewed for a second season. My Adventures with Superman is super dead. Matt Reeves universe is either cancelled after the second one or integrated as part of the DCU. If Robert Pattinson doesn't like it, they'll recast him.
>>156237878Even a slight bomb frightens them. A massive failure like Supergirl probably scared them shitless.
>Somehow Paramount treated Sonic better than fucking DCRONRUMAO
>>156237898>If Robert Pattinson doesn't like it, they'll recast him.Or if he becomes the new Bond.
>>156237898>My Adventures with Superman is super dead.Thank goodness.
>>156237913That show was good though! Season 3 only sucked cause they had to rush it before the merger happened
>>156237906>after 2026 they have a movie or TV show lined up for a yearly release for the foreseeable futurePretty clever on their part.
>>156237854They can but somehow even Sony is infinitely more competent than DC at this point to not fuck that up
>>156237906Maybe cause the Sonic movies were less shit than Gunn DC ones? Yes, really.
>>156237928Anon.Anon.All of it sucked.
Also, the fact that they got a Marvel producer shows they haven't learned a damn thing. They'll just keep trying to ape Marvel, micro-manage everything to Hell, then scorch Earth when it doesn't work.
>>156237852The guy himself is lying, nimrod! He just started a podcast talking about which elements of his Suicide Squad film is canon. He clearly loved doing this shit and got shitcanned.
>>156236870KWAB
>>156237950B-but Kara a cute...
>>156236902Doesn't matter how well Clayface did, they just weren't gonna put him out to pasture before it released just like how they let Ezra be a weird fuck fist fighting people in Hawaii right up until his movies were out.
>>156237913That show had hot Lois Lane and Kara El though
>>156237898Is Dynamic Duo dead?
>>156237954My morrigan aensland loving boy!whats up with you
>>156237969That version of Kara was mid to ugly, anon.Bruce Timm and DCSHG did it better
>>156237954Hey, at least it's not a woman.
Just do the funniest thing that will make everything seethe eternally, revive the snyderverse
>>156237976Lets hope so. No one wanted Damian.>>156237978Dude, that was like, three years ago.
>>156237954It sucks, but if they take anything from Marvels notebook is to make movies based on their biggest characters FIRST and then do the spin off bullshit. Make a Wonder Woman movie, another Batman movie and then a Justice League movie. Skip all the other miscellanous bullshit and just go for the big guns.Should be easy if the rumor that Gunn already casted WW in MOT is true.
>>156236870I'm glad. He was way too into shoving politics, particularly anti white shit, into his universe
>>156237898>My Adventures with Superman is super dead.And My Adventures with Green Lantern too. Awesome! the leaked premise was garbage.
>>156237973Even beating goku in a fanfic battle did not save superman from being buttfucked in prison... or the DCU!Awwww i thougth everyone loved Superman, what happened?
>>156238002They're gonna rush everything like they did with the DCEU. They want Avengers money NOW, not build up to it.
>>156237956Dude, you can't even read what he postedHe liked being a creative, he hated being an executiveI'm not even trying to defend Gunn, you shouldn't be so invested in him. Hopefully the DCU will have a better direction
>>156237353Budget without marketing is 40M. It started out at 45 but then they revised down to 35 to try and calm investors so let's sit in the middle. Unannounced marketing budget and the latest news says it's just passed 100M. If it had zero marketing it's starting to make money. If it had marketing it's 20M from making money. You don't invest in anything to break even, fyi.
>>156237976It may be dead, but it also has an actual release date, and Ellison is contractually obligated to finish projects that were set before he took over WB. He can't cancel man of tommorow or any other project already lined up, he can only cancel those which haven't begun production or filming yet.
>>156238002Yeah its crazy that neither head so far even thought of doing that:>Snyder rushed to Justice League ASAP>Gunn went for D-Listers
>>156236870Hah, faggot.
>>156237906sonic makes bank and the people making them actually give a fuck about the character instead of being cynical cunts trying to be "genuine" though we will have to see how they deal with amy considering recent events
Surely, they can't reboot.
How is Doomsday tracking these days, anyway? If that thing can't reverse Marvel's slump then WB may not even bother.
>>156237878Are they? Snyder amassed a lot of flops, Gunn amassed a lot of flops. And Marvel absolutely should have buried Thor, they were just lucky women are dumb.
Have DCSISSIES learned their lesson?
>>156237906the Sonic multimedia franchise is a fucking gold mine.it's amazing how the games suck ass, but everything else like the movies, comics, cartoons, music, toys, merch, porn, etc are great.
>>156238055It has Tom GODland, it is making 2 billy easy
>>156238016They really don't need to build up to it much more than just a solo WW movie and a Batman movie. And that's only if they don't make Pattinson the canon DCU Batman, like some people want. The next movie has Superman, Lex, Green Lantern, Hawkgirl, and a bunch of other heroes fight Brainiac, so we are already going to have established heroes in this world fighting huge threats. We have Gorilla Grodd out there, which means Flash also exists and can debut in that show. Wonder Woman may show up in MOT or at least be referenced, making it a perfect connection to her solo movie. And after that, either go for a new Batman or you can just go to Justice League head-on. We don't need a solo Aquaman or Martian Manhunter movie; just introduce them in the big crossover movie, and you're set.
>>156238037In the case of MAWGL, they are aping Sailor Moon.
>>156238055Presales alone are over $100 million for opening weekendWill make the success of Spider-Man BND look cute in comparison
>>156238055>An absolute INSANE update. It’s still 43 days until release and it increased over 18% from last update. It’s definitely coming out of the bottom of the u-curve now. It’s sold 474 tickets since T-63 and it’s surpassed the T-11 of BND! Just like with Thursday, the momentum doesn’t seem to be slowing down. And again, with significantly less showings. I can only imagine the numbers with BND allocation. It’s already beaten the T-11 of BND with almost 50 less showings! And BND was also much closer to release at this point>Another astonishing thing is that it’s quickly gaining on Thursday sales much faster than expected. Usually it takes ages for superhero movies to catch up to Thursday for Friday. This is only 206 tickets away from surpassing Thursday previews, which is actually a significant gain from the previous updates gap (294 tickets)>I really think people are being too cautious with this movie. It’s a monster that is just completely unrelenting and anything that might seem unrealistic suddenly can become very realistic very quickly. It most likely won’t have the pace of BND but it doesn’t need it to be an absolute monster. Once it starts doing 20-30% increases every update, it’s over. Reminder that this is the LULL period and it’s just getting out of it and it’s already THIS big.>With all this being said… I’m upping my prediction again. I’m predicting a 140m TF, for a 235.5m OD, leading to an unbelievable 480-490m OW>I’m not confident enough to call 500m. That’s most likely a step too far. Personally I’m leading towards 480m but there’s potential to hit the higher end. I think the case can be made that the Friday sales being THIS close to Thursday this far out indicates likely a stronger than expected IM. To put into perspective, Doomsday’s Friday sales are 93.53% of Thursday at T-43! BND was 94%… 5 days away from release3 BILLY IN THE BAG!!
>>156238069They are also held back by the gamesWe can't get any in-comic character development (the OC's are loosely fine) because writers are held captive by both games and Sega
>>156238055It's tracking to have the biggest opening weekend of all time as of now. It already grossed 126 mill only in presales (more than Supergirl's entire theatrical run) with still a month left, and industry insiders say 2.5 bill is a lock, and it can go higher if the film is well recieved.
>>156236870Get this Tom King knob slobber out of here
>>156237404why the fuck is he trying to look like a middle-aged Jack Frost
>"Please... No more!" Superman squealed, forced to lean forward as a pipe bashed him across the back of his head. "I'm the Man of Stee—"It was a casual slap, but powerful enough to send the so-called Superman tumbling to the ground, face flattened against the cold tile.>"Man of Steel, eh?" one of the men asked, chuckling as he hefted another steel pipe in his hands. "If yer so strong, why don't you get yourself out of this?"The man grabbed Superman under his arm and grinned, daring the "hero" to strike him. Show his wealth of power, that glorious power that could render worlds into dust, remain unmoved in the face of evil.>The man's smile drifted away when he saw the utter defeat written over Superman's face. "Pathetic little whelp, ain't ya?""P-Please, just let me g—" Superman gurgled, unable to speak through the bile of blood in his throat.>"You are a hero..." Another swing, and stars swam across Superman's vision, the sound of steel hitting steel echoing through out the room. "No longer..."K.O.! This is what we call, a fair match!
>>156238070Holland will have a cameo at most if he's in it. He's gonna be one of the leads for SW tho.
>>156238105>>156238088>>156238087Yup, WB is gonna be relentless to recreate that now.
Superman was pretty anti-israeli and they're replacing James Gunn with a jew. The Ellison's also have deep ties to the orange golem we have as a president. Do the math fellas
>>156236870Good, third times the charm.
If I were them, I'd just back up money to Robert Pattison and let him be the Batman.
>>156238119It's just not possible, they need to stop trying. Focus on good stand alone films about their popular characters. Actually be script-focused instead of lying about it like Gunn did. Keep the budgets low. Hire cool young talent and give them a chance instead of literal boomers and hacks.
>>156238158All that would just go in one ear, out the other.
>>156238158Gunn needed to make better decisions, but he was the one who could have possibly built it up to stand up to the MCU. He just needed to be checked in and be told to do a WW and Batman movie next to lead up to Justice League, and cancel all the spin-offs and TV shows that didn't contribute to that. This new guy won't do anything better than him. If anything, he'll do shows and movies that are ten times more soulless and less interesting.
>DC churns through leadership and creators who have proven track records of success elsewhere>none of them looks at what's happening and realizes the only common denominator of DC's failure is DC itself
>>156238109Rapedman.
HULK SMASH PUNY DCU
>>156238002>if they take anything from Marvels notebook>is to make movies based on their biggest characters FIRSTESL-Chan, that is exactly what Marvel DIDN’T do. Before the MCU, their most popular characters were the Hulk, Wolverine, and Spidahman. They opened their cinematic universe with fucking Iron Man, a B-lister whose greatest relevance by then was asking whether he could still be a hero (because of Civil War in the comics and riding anti-CEO sentiment), then spammed similarly questionable heroes until the Avengers made everyone love them. Hulk only had one movie in the entire MCU, and it’s largely regarded as one of its worst Phase 1 outings.Pic related was made unironically.
>>156237791They can only use Tom Holland for a couple of non-Spider-Man movies, dude. Sadly, he just can’t properly take RDJ’s place as the face of the MCU.
This means no more Harley push, right?.....Right?
I enjoyed Superman, Creature Commandos, and Peacemaker, but everything else was a mess and it's clear he had no cohesive vision. He just let people do whatever.
All Gunn enjoyed doing was seeing his wife get fucked on screen.
>>156238220I know, I even said the same in a SpiderPhoenix thread kek. But the point is that, while not THE face, he's still a part of the MCU, and his films can't even exist without it, given the entire pitch for Sony and Disney making the deal was "let's have Spidey interact with the Avengers since that's what fans want to see".
>>156236870Fucking finally! Took them long enough.
>>156238242I respect him a bit more now
>>156238088I do wonder about the long term health of the MCU after Doomsday/Secret Wars. The multiverse saga flopped, so they respond by bringing back Chris Evans and RDJ, but I assume they're not sticking around. So are they hoping that their popularity will brush off on Thunderbolts, FF, Shang Chi, and Samcap if they're in a movie together? If that doesn't work then all they have going forward is the X-Men and Spider-Man and we've just ended up back at the early 2000s.
Here are some comic sales from the 80s. KWAB!
>>156238263Man, how did Batman become what he is today? Fucking Daredevil was above him?
WHYWHY COULDNT SUPERMAN BE AS POPULAR AS GOKU AND SAVE THE DCUWHYYYYYYY
>>156236870HOLY FUCKING SHIT, I CALLED IT, I KNEW THIS FAGGOT UNIVERSE WOULD FLOP HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAI CALLED IT MONTHS AGO...
>>156238206Regardless of their reputation, the plan was always to build them up for The Avengers, as everybody knew about that team in spite of each members individual reputation. And characters like Iron Man, Cap and Thor were key members of the team. And even if the Hulk movie they made was shit, they were able to integrate that into their universe to have a full set of the team, adding Hawkeye and Black Widow thanks to their minor appearance in some of their movies. You're right that they were not the biggest characters ever on their own, but them as a team stand out. The picks they had were classic team members; they only skipped Ant-Man and his gf.DC is lucky to have their main superhero team be composed mostly of their A-listers, so making a movie about Superman, Batman and WW is like what MCU did for Iron Man, Cap and Thor.
>>156238274Unironically Nolan.
>>156238263Seeing those huge numbers makes me so sad. I wish people still read comics.
>>156238274By hiring the Daredevil writer
>Even superman fans did not think he could beat Saitama...
So if they still flop after gunn's gone who will we blame?
>>156238302No you don’t. Modern comics don’t deserve those kinds of sales.
>>156238263So wonder woman fags are just lying BITCHES?
>>156236870The real question I want to ask is will this change Warner's trajectory? Think about it under performing and failing has been Warner's thing for decades. This merger with Skydance doesn't seem like it will help Warner get any better.And because Democrats won recently you know "Woke is back!" Remember that scene in the recent Batman film with Nigger Catwoman bitching about white people? Expect more of that.
>>156238260Evans and Downey are 200% sticking around, yidsney's demented but not completely stupid. They'll shuffle the unlikable losers around but they're gonna be a little less obnoxiously pushed down our throats, at least for the time being until they think they're back on top and not riding nostalgia fumes. I'm curious about how they'll handle X-Men's guaranteed failure, however.
>>156238263>wonder womanThat's rough
>>156238274DC was in a slump period. They take turns being failures
>>156238317Alan Moore
>>156237856Snyder did Superman, Superman/Batman, Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman, Justice League. But apparently that was wrong because you didn’t do a solo Batman, because audiences can’t understand DC movies unless you have a Batman solo movie first
>>156238317The studio heads who have no clue what they're doing.
Cause I'm a punk rocker, yes I-ACK
>>156238263It's not the 80s now, Marvel couldn't sell a comic book to save their lives. They don't need to because of the MCU but still
DC problem is Marvel burned through so much superhero shit. What would they even build up to that would be novel? We've seen the superhero team-up multiple times. We've done cross-overs, hero fights. There's not much space for DC to be an alternative unless they go serious/adult and that's gotten mixed results.
>>156238326I doubt you read any to know that. You just enjoy being negative.
>>156238024Yeah Clayface needs to make 500 million to just break even
>>156238119They should just swallow their shame, admitt DC is second league compared to Marvel outside if comics and do their iwn shit.Dont look at Marvel money nor covet it, just slowly make some small cash on their movies, how hard is that?
>>156238260FF underperformed but still broke even, and with the big roles thay have in Doomsday/SW they'll most likely get a sequel. Shang-Chi and the TBolts are in a similar spot, which is one of the main differences between Marvel and DC on film. The first Captain America, Thor and Dr. Strange also weren't massive hits, but the characters reappearing in an Avengers movie the very next year made them more popular amongst audiences. DC hasn't built a structure like that around itself, and as such is far more liable to get dragged by their flops.
APOLOGIZE. RIGHT FUCKING NOW.
>>156238379They don't need those gimmicks if they focus on good movies
>>156238338I don't think they can afford RDJ for an FF movie, and as for Evans will he just be Cap again? Or will he show up for 5 minutes in the next Samcap movie to give him a pep talk? The impression I get is that they're soft rebooting the universe after SW.
I want to read xitter and plebbit threads full of cope
>>156238390Thats not how Hollywood does things. You follow whats popular and hopefully make the same amount of money, or just keep trying until it works.
>>156238414Xitter cope? NIGGA xitter is fucking celebrating rn they hate gunn
>>156238338If Downey genuinely enjoyed playing Doom like he says, they could easily put him in FF2 to give it a box office bust. Hell, he can even just do a voice over while another guy plays Doom on set.
>>156238407good or bad movies are an afterthought. the only thing that matters is where it falls into the larger story.
>>156238389You jest but the real number is $110m, which it just passedSo you're looking at a 20-30 million profit by the end of it's run if it reaches 140
>>156237005A lot of the cost is salaries, as with many industries right now. Get win > shed shed shed > "look at all the money I made and saved, I deserve a raise" then repeat with every executive or "talent" position
>>156238406>apologize for being so bad it caused this shitstorm in the first place
>>156238435The Batman didn't need that
>>156238299It was before that.A mix of Burton Batmans, The Animated series and finally Justice League cartoon. 90s made Bats THE man for DC
>>156238015Who ever wrote and drew this deserves to be beaten up and humiliated
>>156238430Oh yeah waste your new Thanos on Cucky Reed’s shitty flick. Worked wonderfully putting Kangz in Antman just for Babyface Dick to blow him up
>>156238006>I'm glad. He was way too into shoving politics, particularly anti white shit, into his universeExpect more of that shit. Expect more My Adventures With Race Swap Superman bullshit. Come on the Democrats won you got to expect MORE of this shit. Gunn is not the only one making it at Warner.
>>156238452It was bad and higly controversial, but it was BvS which killed normies' interest in DC. That movie had insane hype and it plummeted after tancid WOM took off.
>>156237076Doubtful
>>156238460BASED. SNYDERGODS WON
>>156238460Only restoring the Snyderverse can save this dead company
>>156238463Difference is Doom is an actual FF villain retard. Plus he'd already be set as a big impression, which was the inverse to what happened to Kang.
>>156237246>Snyderverse>successful
>>156238417Well then dont do Hollywood stuff.No jews, no pedophiles, do it like european cinema with american budget.
>>156237246>Sucked but was successfulBvS LOST money
>>156237027>That's what they've been doing and that's why this universe hasn't workedLoosely connected like Raimi Spidey and Ang Lee Hulk maybe share a universe.
>>156238479They'd never do that.
>>156238468>Democrats won Yes and a bunch of tranny bills still didn't pass and the economy played a bigger part in it than anything. I'm sure it'll still be woke on some level
>>156238481Kang would've been cool if they wrote him to be the cause of the fragmented Marvel movie landscape.
So is dcu over after man of tomorrow?
>>156238379Bullshit.Ifni can read the same comic for a 1000 times, i can watch the same origin based superhero movie a 1000 time, just make it non sucky.
>>156238507Too soon to say.
>>156238494IIrc it did turn a profit, but WB expected a billy for a movie having fucking Batman and Superman together. Tho the film sucking balls certainly didn't help.
>>156238506Bit hard to take a guy who jobs to ants seriously
Let’s say hypothetically they revive the snyderverse, how well would it do
>>156238274>Fans claim they hate overpowered superheroes with no weaknesses Batman is the most overpowered, plot armored superhero in comics
>>156238481Similarity is your Event villain is wasted on the faggot FF, retard. Same as noone wants to see Kang get btfo by Modok, noone wants to see Doom get btfo by a a Canon Cuckold, a Girlboss Hotwife, an quippy Jew, and Johnny Test.
>>156238062>Are they? Snyder amassed a lot of flopsDid he?
>>156238468Demicrats need to be more white, just less right-y than republicansNiggers, jews and trannies just need to be disenfranchised with no political party nir no media outlet whatsoeverIf nit they gonna lose again
>>156238532>t. DCuck
>>156238525I dunno, go see how well Rebel Moon and that Last Photograph movie went.
>>156238546i don't know about that but you should kill yourself
>>156238460>Synderverse is just as deadSnyder fans are hilarious
>>156238468Depends if they turn the USaid money back on.
>>156238503Whether you want to admit it or not Democrats gaining ground does equal more woke agenda. To the Democrats its a religion that they must spam not matter how unpopular. I say good honestly, I hope it speeds up Warner's future bankruptcy yet again. Even better if Warner is liquidated and dissolved as they've failed more than enough.
>>156238534More like underperformers. Man of Steel and BvS were disappointments. Suicide Squad was a hit but was a piece of shit. Wonder Woman was genuinely well liked and did well. Justice League was a huge flop. Aquaman and Shazam were Hamada.
>>156238561A single Snyderverse film outsold every flop Gunn has done combined
>>156236902Who the fuck expected Clayface to save him? It was a minor and low-budget spin-off.
>>156238562>Depends if they turn the USaid money back on.Will most likely return because the firms in charge aren't broke.
>>156238006Kill yourself, retard
>>156238559Libtards trying to be tuff is cute.
>>156238482Not successful, but better in comparison? Yes.
>>156238578And yet, it's still just as dead
RIP in peace my wife
>I don't know if Joker exists yet in this universeDeserved.
>>156238557I liked Rebel Moon.
>>156238546>Demicrats need to be more whiteThe white birthrate is terrible and as far as Democrats go their highest number of voters are Stupid White Women who happily celebrate abortion so killing the white race. Democrats those are your largest voters. I hope Islam takes over this stupid country.
>>156238608At least she's getting married.
I'M A HUGE FLOPPERYES I AM
>>156238615Statistically, someone had to.
>>156238612>Damian will be Robin thoughFuck him
BVS caused all of this.I hope you can admit that.>starting your films with a Batman who kills>but it’s Baleman the charisma sink, oozing out his facemask with nubs for Bat-Ears, and with the lamest Kill-Rule ever written where he at best hits cholos with his car at worst tattooes themIf it were any other Batman, he’d have a solo film the next day. Instead Baleman led to Justice League 2017 where he infected his Cringe Half-Hearted Edginess onto every other Justice League member. Oh well at least it looked good on Aquaman
>>156238608Race swap piece of shit. Burn in Hell to anyone who liked that shit.
>>156236870>We at Knight Edge Media had heard that budgets for most DC projects in development had been slashed because of Supergirl’s reception this past summer, specifically The People vs. Grodd TV series. This included tensions between James Gunn and director Craig Gillespie (via The Hollywood Reporter). We also heard over the summer that top DC screenwriter Ana Nogueira may have been removed from her Wonder Woman script and that someone else would be brought in to polish it. Their Batman film, The Brave and the Bold, was one of the first films announced but never made it into production. Which seems to be completely shelved at this point.https://knightedgemedia.com/2026/11/james-gunn-and-peter-safran-fired-from-dc-studios/?fsp_sid=18292LMAO IT REALLY WAS SUPERGIRL'S FAULT
>>156238587Literally every single thing he made had "Nazis" or the "patriarchy" as the villain. Seems fucked up to make anti white slop when black people kill white people at such a higher rate than the inverse
>>156238637BvS is one of the greatest capeshit movies ever made. Easily. Top 10.
>>156238641inb4 a million "I just freakin' killed a franchise with my movie!" posts.
>>156238649“My daddy hit me once so now I have to kill you because you’re like god o algo ring ding ding ding ding ding ding” – Lex Luthor
>>156238595Man of Steel really should've done better. With almost everything that came out after it,but was amazing in comparison
>>156238022>He liked being a creative, he hated being an executiveHe was literally a full creative while Safran handled the business side. There's no excuse, he got unlimited access to all of DC and got fired because he didn't deliver. He could have let Safran be the sole CEO but he also got canned.
>>156238641Maybe Gunn shouldn't have approved the worst script possible if he wanted to keep a job
>>156238685"Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent in one room!"Which, unless you know their secret identities, means...absolutely nothing.
>>156238685Better than a Lex Luthor that is a cuckold and lets his gf see every plan of his, all because Gunn wants to make a takedown on Elon Munsk.
>>156238685Was Superman even around when he was a kid?
>>156238641>Ana Nogueira the Supergirl writer was gonna write Wonder WomanKEK THEY WERE GONNA LET THAT ROASTIE DO IT AGAIN
>>156238641>We at Knight Edge MediaYeah, I'll wait for an actual source.
>>156238711Must give good head.
>>156238708Superman was his Daddy
>>156238430It doesn't work to introduce Doom as a multiversal threat then have him show up in an FF sequel just doing regular villain stuff. Imagine if Thanos showed up as the villain in GotG3 just trying to take over the galaxy.
>>156237125Superman underperformed
>>156238627I LOST TO DEMON SLAYER YES I DID
>>156238700“How am I gonna make Batman hate Superman? I know! I’ll mail him a bunch of letters saying YOUR PARENTS ARE DEAD NAH NAH NAH NAH and that’ll…like…make him really mad n shiiet”
>>156238596Anon. Don’t you know what companies do with the dead if theres enough nostalgia? THEY REVIVE THEM. Why else would there be a gremlins 3, a ghostbusters 3 & 4, A FUCKING SHREK 2 GAME REMASTER. They revive these things because theres nostalgia, because the people that grew up with them are older now, maybe they have their own kids maybe they don’t. But they have NOSTALGIA.So tell me somethin. With how much snyder fans want it back and the fact that lil timmy who grew up watching Man of Steel is probably gonna be an adult soon. So why wouldn’t they dig up that old corpse anon? Why wouldn’t they.
>>156238676Woah did you notice that this looks ike pepe the frog?
>>156238069>moviesGarbage >comicsGARBAGE >cartoonsOutside Prime they're mostly good>musicThose got worse alongside the games
>>156238711She was going to write Wonder Woman and Teen Titans, and help on the Batman movie, which already had the bitch that did The Flash.
>>156238637>I hope you can admit that.Yeah both Snyder and Gunn are dogshit. News at 11.
>>156238711They were going to be better movies.
>>156238780The movies are fine.
>>156238747Doom going from godlike status to a petty squabble against the FF is extremely common, and suits his character well. Despite having the talents of a renaissance man, he can't help himself to throw it all away just so he can autistically sperg at Reed and co. It's a key part of his character that Doomsday/SW might not have the time to explore.
>>156238766Christopher McQuire just did an interview about how he had big plans for a Green Lantern movie with Tom Cruise and a sequel of MoS with Henry Cavill.
>>156238805HAHAHAHAHAHAAHA. NO THERE WOULD NOT. ALL OF THE GUNNVERSE IS SHIT.>b-b-b-buh supaman wuz good n shieetNO IT WASN’T. It was okay at best.
>>156238274Batman had a really bad period in the 70s through the mid 80s. With the exception of the brief period Englehart write Detective Comics, the Batman books sold for shit from the end of the O'Neil/Adams run to the official start of Post Crisis Batman. It wasn't until DC started doing the writing for the trades stuff post crisis that stakes started to go up and even then, even with Batman movies, it took the Knight fall trilogy and DC churning out yearly massive crossover events in the Batman books for them to recover to the O'Neil/Adams level
>>156238827They were going to be better movies enjoyed by better men.
at least Snyder's 3 DC movies made money
>>156238763*waddles into ship with Zod fleshlight*“Ship can you turn Zod into a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle?”[I DON’T KNOW WHY YOU THINK I COULD DO THAT, BUT I GUESS][ACTUALLY NO IT’S FORBIDDEN]“Aww cmon Krypton is dead or something”[OK LMAO]“I am a Genius. Superman’s like God so this is like The Devil…in a way.”
>>156238760Both lost to Nezha
>>156238785>>156238711Holy shitThey know she has ZERO credentials or past filmmaking experience? What the fuck kind of blackmail did she have
>>156238815That works in comics not in movies.
>>156238842Only two did, and they still made less than what WB was expecting. Watchmen flopped and the SnyderCut doesn't really count since it wan't released in theaters.
>>156238780Movies and cartoons are fine. Prime is better than most IDW garbage.
>>156238763>>156238700>>156238844No matter how much you faggots cry, that won't change the fact BvS is still the goat.
>>156238766>Trust me, they'll bring him back cause nostalgia Like I said, Snyder fans are hilarious
>>156238865>ebonicsAll I needed to know.
>>156238860
>>156236870>guy whose entire business model was trying to remake Guardians of the Galaxy gets put in charge>tanks companyWow, who could've seen that coming?
>>156238860>4 hour SnyderCutWhat was the plan for his Justice League movie? Were they going to make it 2 separate movies?
>>156238857You can work it out by having Doom not be the villain(which I hope it'sthe case since please God use another FF villain other than him or Galactus), instead do the "hero and villain must team-up to defeat a bigger threat" plot.
>>156238885>Were they going to make it 2 separate movies?Yes.
>>156238885I guess they were always going to reduce it to three hours for cinemas, with the longer cut being released on video release.
>>156238885Yes. Its a bad future where Darkseid rules Earth with Supes as his main minion. Batman sacrifices himself to save the world, and it ends with his and Lois' son becoming the new Batman.
It really seems that Supergirl killed them.lol. Lmao, even.
>>156238877Seems like a biased source.
>>156238911That script was gone the moment BvS was made. You can see in ZSJL that Lois is already pregnant, and that Lois has no interest in Batman. The moment Wonder Woman was established a possible love interest for Batman they gave up on that idea.
>>156236870Go Woke Go Broke
>>156238937Not necessarily. That stupid scene with Flash warning Bruce from the future was supposed to hint at it.
You knew it was over the second James made a podcast to try and explain away why his universe made no sense.
>>156238954The Odyssey made 1.8 billy
>>156238062>Snyder amassed a lot of flopsNo?
>>156237142He’s not allowed to use Batman until Reeves finished The Batman 2. Unfortunately Reeves dragged his feet making the movie and now it won’t come out til 2028
>>156238961No, it was foreshadowing Lois's death, but they removed the romantic triangle subplot.
>>156237010Ok. But Milly was a good Supergirl though
So is the DCU now going to become another MCU copy? I looked at the replacement's filmography and all he ever produced was superhero flicks and that one D&D movie. Not impressed.
>>156236960>force Robert Pattinson to be his Batman?He legally can’t. WB allowed Matt Reeves to have full control of his Batman universe through tight contracts. It is why they can’t cancel the movie.And Matt Reeves doesn’t want his Batman to be a part of the Gunn DCU.
>>156238982She's an ugly ape who can't act
>>156238987>So is the DCU now going to become another MCU copy?It already was, wasn't it?
>>156238760Losing to an anime movie that requires watching the TV show to understand is fucking pathetic. Max Landis was right. Nobody gives a shit about Superman.
>>156238987>now
Games Gunn sucked because he was woke, and I hate woke because I'm a Nazi and I want to kill all women and minorities
>>156238685>>156238763>>156238844And Wonder Woman will appear in the movie for absolutely no reason other than muh trinity
>>156238987Thats what WB is hoping will happen.Again. On its third try.
>>156236870Christian Dads win!
Grandma's rejoice, his movies are literally for you https://x.com/rjwubby/status/2119854390676984288/video/1?s=46
>>156238923>Seems like a biased source.and the no-name faggot he's replying to isn't?
>>156238274Batman is one of the oldest IPs in the superhero or even comic book business. At this point it's not even about comics, or movies, the licensing rights to Batman and his related imagery are an infinite money machine for whoever own them.
>>156236870I bet it was the podcast that caused this.
>>156239013Oh, God. He's going to bring Snyder back, isn't he? We will have Superman as a parallel to Christ upped to eleven.
>>156239013A bit late for the conservative push, but its their funeral.
>>156239007Your HERO is a sissy. Get over it.
>>156239013Well that will do better internationally since gay stuff will always be a tough sell globally.
>>156236870I’m sad because I actually wanted to see live-action Damian Wayne
>>156239032Snyder's not gonna agree to it because he's already seen where it leads him.
/co/ trannies right now.
>>156239048...Why?
SPIDEY RAPES
>>156237104Fuck you BrevoortCapeshit movies will finally die with secret wars and THANK GOD you retards will commit 41%
>>156237378I wish.Matt Reeves is holding Batman hostage. No one can use Batman as long as Matt Reeves lives.
>>156239048What makes you think the horrible batman adaptations will ever stop coming?
>>156239048Do you really think he'd be anything like he is in the comics? Gunn would use the fact that he's "some obscure DC character" and rewrite the fuck out of him.
He has like zero sense of artistic direction, the only things he's worked on that don't look like hot garbage are the scooby doo movies
>>156239008And Batman will do nothing in the final act while Wonder Woman Ex Machina and Superman fight Doomsday. This whole ending is so rushed and pointless, so let’s just do a literal 2 seconds of him hiding behind a wall and shooting a gas canister at Doomsday that does nothing, so we can pretend this was written with him in mind.
>>156237104It is not out of the question with Ellison around to bankrupt the entire studio.People will meme about Hexed for a week and then Doomsday comes out, and Disney will have made 3 billion-dollar films in a single year while Skydance struggles for 2027-2028 to break even.
>>156237234The Elisons hates his ass, so no.DC movie universe is goneAnd God hopes the marvel shit too.
>>156239035Wtf... why can black superman do this effortlessly to blow off steam...
>>156239075Gunn has a particular artistic direction.It’s just that Scooby Doo is that artistic direction. Should’ve stuck to where he belongs.
>>156239087What the fuck was he supposed to do against Doomsday?
>>156239075His artistic direction is degenerate Edgar Wright
>>156237076What was the second attempt? Are you counting the CW Arrowverse?
I never liked this talentless hack pedo anyways.
>>156239103he only wrote scooby doo, on all the movies he actually directed the colors and lighting look awful, suicide squad, superman, and supergirl look like someone who doesn't understand how to apply a LUT to footage and the guardians of the galaxy movies look like vomit
>>156239124The Rock verse, of course
>>156239048That was changed some months ago. The new script had Dick instead of Damian.
>>156239101>SuperKEK is a loser who jobs to his superior BLACK counterpartGEEEEG! How can you be a SuperSISSY fan today?
>>156239034Politics and entertainment don't necessarily exist in the same head space for most people. People alternate between the different parties and people can want less politics in media while still voting blue. Not everything is binary
>>156239113Use the Super Suit and Kryptonite he was brawling against Superman with.Pull an explosive electric Batarang out or some other high tech gadget (he killed Doomsday clones like this in the comics)Do some Kung Fu.It’s a movie and you’re writing it, you can write anything. If you can’t fit your own Main character into your own ending then it’s clear your ending is a rushed hackjob mess.
>>156238274Tim Burton’s film was popular And Year One and The Dark Knight Returns helped.
>>156239089Didn't WB lose a billion this year because of Digger or something like that?
>>156239124Probably Reynolds GL, the DCEU, and this.
>>156239035Yes he isCan you show me heroes that are NOT sissies?
>>156237234I remember when they put Black Adam in multiversus god that shit aged so poorly.
>>156238987Anon, James Gunn's plan was very clearly going to be matching the MCU bar for bar
And after wishing they had him back in 2016
PARAMOUNT TOLD DC TO STOP DOING CAPESHIT MOVIES AND PRONTOTHEY KNOW WHAT IS COMINGTHEY ARENT GOING TO PAY FOR ANOTHER CAPESLOP MOVIE THAT WILL BOMB HARD AS DOOMSDAYYou mongoloid retards ignores the fact that the faggots are all on the red right now, fucking disney as warner are owes a lot of money even to fucking mafia bosses.Disney employees are getting fired left and right.There wont be other capeshit movies after secret wars.Nobody is going to a theatre to watch capeslop, this entire generation HATES comic book media in general and HATES Hollywood and sees all of the western civ as degenerates.
>>156239239I meant are they going to stop producing spin offs and non canon projects like Clayface going forward and just focusing on connecting every single project to the main universe plotline.
>>156239267Wow, you're very passionate about things you hope are true.
>>156239267Just stop doing multiverse slop, it’s not hard to read the room
>>156239267Botslop spotted
>>156236902>>156236920Clayface did fine for a movie that was in a non-existent budget class; nobody was ever going to look at the profit because nobody makes superhero movies on budgets like that, and nobody likes superhero movies that make less that 400 million because they don't sell long-term or shift merchClayface's budget was probably set that low because it was decided after Jonkler 2 failed and was an unknown quantity like Batgirl (which was also expected to fail but had twice the budget), none of which is really to do with how Gunn's projects performedbut also it was being set up to fail, essentially, since anybody with a brain would be saying "save this for a Batman movie" and anybody who wasn't saying that probably wasn't going to look at small-budget profit that hard, just wonder why it was ever made to begin with because the margin is so smallthat is on Gunn and he should never have greenlit the project for that reason; you can see why he did, and it's half naivety and half I guess probably frustration given what's been happening to WB this whole time would make it hard to get anything funded, but it was still a mistake because now they can hold it up and say "Battinson movies are profitable, you are taking money off the table by bogarting his rogues for low-budget shit" and boom, take your tens of millions of dollarydoos and fuck off, Mr Gunn, see you in Januarynobody works between Thanksgiving and New Year in LA anyway, that's why they've fired him now
Enough time has passed #RestoreTheGunnverse
>>156236870DC Studios Shocker: James Gunn, Peter Safran Stepping Down with Marvel Alum Jeremy Latcham to Take Over>The duo were believed to be safe amid the Skydance takeover of Warner Bros., but now have a former Kevin Feige protege taking over their division.>In a major shakeup that will send shock waves throughout Hollywood and the comic book world, James Gunn and Peter Safran are stepping down as co-CEOs of DC studios.>Skydance, which now oversees the division thanks to its acquisition of Warner Bros. Discovery, has appointed former Marvel exec Jeremy Latcham to the post of president and chief creative officer of DC Studios.>Gunn and Safran are stepping down from their leadership roles effect Dec. 1, four years after taking over the job to much fanfare. The duo released three movies during that time (Superman, Supergirl and Clayface), as well as three live-action TV shows (The Penguin, Peacemaker season 2 and Lanterns), and had a decade’s worth of plans in the works. In an Instagram post in which he talked about the highs and lows at DC, Gunn acknowledged that being an exec was “trying, to say the least.” He added: “I dislike the at-times corporate nature of the job (thanks to Peter for taking the brunt of that.).”>The duo will still be in the fold creatively, at least on a few projects, as Gunn has Superman sequel Man of Tomorrow in post-production for a planned release next year, with the TV spinoff The People v. Gorilla Grodd also in post. Gunn and Safran remain producers on The Batman: Part II as well, for a 2028 release date. With their executive days done, the plan is for them to return full time to their creative work. Gunn rose to fame as the blockbuster filmmaker behind Guardians of the Galaxy, while Safran is a prolific producer on numerous DC and horror titles. Gunn revealed in his Instagram post Monday that he is writing one more secret DC movie, and that the characters they set up will live on beyond them.
>>156236870Hardest pill to swallow is that DC outside of Batman really isn't all that popular or interesting to theater goers.
>>156237442Quite a lot, but all the want to do now is to make "realistic", "fresh" and "modernized" takes on classic villains like Joker, Riddler and Two-Face without any science fiction or fantasy. And by now I mean last 20 years.
>>156239278It isnt passionate shit, its reality.only subhuman millenials will watch this garbage, zoomers peaced out already and alphas arent going to spend more than an hour watching a shit movie.>>156239293Multiverse slop isn't to blame, the entire content at its core is garbage, and aping to nostalgia the worst way possible to satisfy a bunch of adult day care manchildren and white liberal women.Zoomers and Alphas aren't going to watch this shit, they rather watch Raimi's Spider-man, Donner's Superman, or even the shit fantastic four movie with morpheus silver surfer than watch modern shit, all to piss off millenials and Xers who began to discard and shittalk what they consumed before and now hates it because they were brainwashed by politics and troll's remorse.Want a bonafide proof? Look at the recent shitshow with EA and Bioware, it took EA re-releasing wing commander, ultima and Road Rash that the zoomer alphadom as boomers joining up to dab on the bioware fags because it turns out the old games were a million times better than bioware's garbage.>>156239374Because the bane of many of DC's problems is fucking John Byrne and Dan DiDio.
>>156239366>“James and Peter launched a new era for DC Studios and led it through a period of real transformation, resetting the foundation and building a slate we’re incredibly proud of,” Skydance chairman and CEO David Ellison and co-CEO Ynon Kreiz said jointly in a statement. “We’re grateful for their passion, contributions and commitment to this legendary brand.”>Regarding Latcham, the duo stated, “Jeremy has been a longtime creative partner to both, and we have complete confidence that James and Peter will ensure a smooth, collaborative transition and continue this work with care. We look forward to working with Jeremy to build the next generation of DC storytelling and to doubling down on our commitment to fans.”>Latcham returns to his executive roots with the role. He was one of the earliest employees of Marvel Studios, joining the company in 2004, and ultimately rose to senior vp of production and development. As a protégé, and then right hand man for Marvel head Kevin Fiege, he gained credits on Iron Man, Iron Man 2, The Avengers, Guardians of the Galaxy, Avengers: Age of Ultron and Spider-Man: Homecoming. He worked with Gunn on Guardians, the 2014 movie that made the filmmaker an A-list director.>Per Skydance, Latcham will lead DC’s film, television and animation slate, overseeing the creative pipeline, along with production, talent and strategy. He will report to Dana Goldberg and Josh Greenstein, co-chairs of Skydance Motion Picture Group. That’s a change from the days of Gunn and Safran, who reported directly to Warner Bros. Discovery CEO David Zaslav before the merger, and prior to their exit, reported directly to Ellison.
>>156239397Dude, if Doomsday does as well as its tracking to, we could be looking at a second superhero boom next year. Or at least a reason for WB to double down on aping its success. Again.
>>156236870OH NONONONONONONONONONONONO AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
The funny thing is that none of the projects the new guy is heading will see light of day til 2029, and by then he could probably get replaced by someone else. The DC line up is set for the next 2 years, and we don't even know if Skydance will remain in that time with how much money they owe.
>>156236870Supergirl and Tom King killed the DCU
>>156239431MoT's gonna flop for sure
>>156239437>While opening new doors and telling new stories in film and television with Peacemaker, Creature Commandos, Lanterns and Clayface.>What about Supergirl?>Shut up.
>>156239406>“DC’s pantheon of characters is among the most iconic in American popular culture,” said Latcham in a statement. “I’ve had the privilege to help bring some of the most celebrated superhero stories to life on the big screen, and I’m excited and honored for the opportunity to now lead DC Studios into its next era. The chance to steward the incredible cast of DC characters to the screen in a way that excites lifelong fans while introducing their timeless stories to the next generation is a massive responsibility that I do not take lightly.”>Hollywood observers will be looking to discern if Gunn and Safran decided to move on, or if they were pushed out. Before the merger, Ellison flew to the set of Man of Tomorrow, which was seen as a vote of confidence for the duo, and in recent weeks, the pair presented their long-term plan to the mogul. Sources previously told THR Ellison told them to keep doing what they were doing. “David knows everything… he’s been great with us,” Gunn told THR last month of keeping Ellison informed of their larger vision.>The exit now puts into question the vast plans the duo announced when they took over and tried to steer the DC movies beyond the long shadow cast by the Zack Snyder era. Gunn and Safran started off with the successful launch of a new Superman movie last year but then stumbled big with Supergirl, a critical and commercial bomb. Their third movie, Clayface, has generated strong reviews and is a moneymaker.
>>156239462>“Four years ago, we set out to unite DC under one creative vision. In that time, we helped restore Superman to the heart of DC, while opening new doors and telling new stories in film and television with Peacemaker, Creature Commandos, Lanterns and Clayface,” The duo stated regarding their tenure. “We’re immensely proud of the team that turned that ambition into something real, including the actors, crews and executives we had the opportunity to collaborate with.>On the Latcham front, they enthused, “We’ve shared a creative history with Jeremy going back to Marvel, and we’re eager to see the perspective he brings to DC’s next chapter. We’re excited to return to what drew us to this job in the first place, which is telling the stories we love, including the next chapter of Clark and Lex’s journey in Man of Tomorrow.”
>>156239417It wont Boco you mongoloid retard.Shareholders are full on retail glut mode right now
>>156239503Of course Anon. Of course.
>>156239374Very much explains why most DC projects over the past decade, including shows and games, don’t venture that far outside of Gotham
>>156236870Are they keeping the DCU actors or resetting again?
Snyder posted this after the announcement of Gunn and Safran exit
>>156239538BASED
>>156239526Way too soon to say. Assuming WB even knows at this point.
>>156239538Also Dwayne posted this
>>156238973>>156239062Why the fuck would DC allow the DCU to go forward without straightening the Batman shit out? They just let it be at the whim of one guy?
>>156236870Well that sucks
>WSJ reporterI really don’t know what Gunn expected. Superman had middling returns at the box office, Supergirl was a massive flop, Clayface earned them maybe 50 million at best, and they have no concrete plans beyond Man of Tomorrow. I guess people liked Lanterns and Peacemaker but streaming stats aren’t real. No one watches anything on Netflix and yet all their original movies get like a billion views.
>>156239555The same shit happened with the Snyderverse, for some reason DC just didn't prioritize Batman
TOM KING STATUS?
>>156237029>He had an entire slate of films planned and it was basically going to be "The Rock beats up the DC Universe"I'm still mad this didn't happen it would have been so fucking funny
>>156239554BASED TOO
>>156239555Because WB is run by retards
>>156238546Stop being retarded
When Snyder returns you will cry.
>>156237029He was also in SuperPets as a fucking cameo
they're gonna make the league of assassins explicitly muslim and the special forces branch of hamasand batman is gonna take them down with krav maga with the help of a robin who for some reason is israeli and a member of the idf
>>156239659Stop! I’m already erect!
the ellisons are bringing gal gadot back
>>156238002>make movies based on their biggest characters FIRST>Iron Man>Biggest characterslmaoReminder that this is the kind of people arguing with you here on /co/
>>156239659They can’t. Matt Reeves still controls the Batman IP. Only after Reeves is done can they make a Batman movie with Batman in it.
>>156239696At the time they didn't have the rights for Hulk, Spidey, F4 or X-Men. You really saying that Iron-Man, Captain America and Thor weren't the biggest characters they had at the time?
never in my life did i ever think ben shapiro would get to direct a dc movie
>>156239711They were, but that says more about how desperate Marvel was to work with what they had rather than anything about Iron Man or Thor's popularity.
>>156236935It was cooked the moment they did that "reveal" with Gunn saying it would span across multiple media, comics, movies, vidyagaems. He was just spitting shit without a plan and only very stupid people would believe it would work
>>156239704It'll be an Azrael, Nightwing, or Red Hood movie
>>156239704What's stopping them from just making DC movies and saying they're set in the same continuity?
>>156239693She might genuinely be one of the worst actresses ever.
will elon musk make a cameo in this universe too or are they gonna get someone newer like the palantir or anduril guys
Whatever this new guy does, if his plan is to reboot for the love of God don't admit that till all of Gunn's movies are out. I think the dumbest thing Gunn ever did was come out and say "yea the next 3 DC movies have nothing to do with my universe and they all tanked. He cost DC hundreds of millions of dollars before doing anything
>>156239113Not a lot, but he had a lot of kryptoniteYou know who he'd be useful against?Metallo(as in, the fucker in the wheelchair)
>>156239729And yet they went with those characters instead of starting with C or D-list heroes or villains, they went for the biggest ones they had at the time and built The Avengers, which made them a lot of money. DC just needed to do that. They don't even have the excuse that they don't own the rights, they own their biggest heroes. Just go Superman, Batman, WW to Justice League. That's it, cut the bullshit from the middle.
>>156239569>Clayface earned them maybe 50 million at bestWay less than that, it only just now broke even
Will these cowards just pull the trigger already?I mean if you're going to set money on fire do it for something cool not the genderfluid super LGBTs a.k.a suicide squad lecturing us on how Isreal is doing another holocaust so there needs to be another holocaust.
>>156236870The superhero cinematic phenomena has ended since Endgame and DC was completely retarded for not capitalizing on it because they trusted an incompetent buffoon like Snyder who could never write a decent enough script. Now no superhero movie can make a million dollars outside of Spider-man and maybe Deadpool and I won't be surprised if Doomsday will turn out to be a box office disappointment.
>>156239820if they were making terry wasian, fuck no
>>156239823>I won't be surprised if Doomsday will turn out to be a box office disappointment.You're in for a shock.
the new wayne industries is gonna be a military tech company based in tel aviv
>>156237244shut your goofy ass up!
About 10 minutes ago, Grace Randolph said on her stream that DC should probably call Zack Snyder and let him direct his The Dark Knight Returns movie with Batfleck. He already has a storyboard, and Frank Miller is his personal consultant, and Affleck would probably agree to do that with Zack.
>>156239969>Frank Miller is his personal consultantThis is not a positive thing. I guarantee he will say he regrets some of his decisions and would want to change things
>>156239969Wasn't BvS supposed to be that?
>>156238987>nowNigga, this universe was always going to be the MCU's bitch.
>>156236870I have no strong feelings one way or the other, DC has always been a mixed bag be it comics, TV, cartoons or film but that's kinda the appeal anyway.
This is the best day of my life
>>156239969Let it go man, just let it go. It's not worth it, specially if Frank Miller would be involved in this.
DC try not to be the most mismanaged movie franchise in history for 2 years challenge: uncompleted
>>156240032Why?
>>156239994No? The only element it had from The Dark Knight Returns was the fight between Batman and Superman, and that's it. Snyder wanted to direct a literal, panel-by-panel adaptation with Carrie Kelley as Robin, the Mutants, an older Catwoman, and so on, he already had a deal (not a legal one, of course) with Frank Miller that he'll invite his as his consultant and probably even producer on this project, if he ever gets an opportunity, and now it seems DC may actually agree to it.
>another DC reboot
MOVE HERE >>156236865>>156236865>>156236865>>156236865
>>156240091I love DKR but it doesn't need a movie. The comics were great the animated movies were great there is really nothing new thats going to be added here
>>156240019DC too experimental and risky for a mainstream universe, like since the 80's they always been a fuck it see what sticks company, it's how you get shit like Watchmen vs Marvel always been about the brand identity no matter what which also why the fans are so loyal like Stan Lee whole MAKE MINE MARVEL! DC just too all over the place for something like that, the last time they had clear brand identity was like the mid 70's and barely. DC doesn't have zombies like Marvel but also what make them cool is how all over the place they are vs Marvel plays it safe besides some little tiny exceptions.
>>156236870All he and his co ceo dude had to do was totally reboot fucking everything instead of playing favorites, not make a mid as fuck Superman and his super friends movie&a dog shit super girl movie and just told Matt Reeves to ditch making a penguin show(literally) hurry the fuck up with Batman to while forcing Patterson Batman to join the DCU.Also how the fuck did clayface get a movie before green lantern(you would they would try to capitalize on Guy Gardner but noooooooooo we gotta shove in raped versions of Hal and Jon).The new DC guy better not fuck UL the absolute Batman show(and better tell someone competent to adapt absolute Wonder Woman and get regular Wonder Woman a new proper movie).
>>156237813who?
>>156239659are we back in the democrat era then?
>>156240134>the animated movies were greatNot really. They were quite mid, kinda like recent animated Watchmen.
>>156236870Getting fired like that must suck
>>156240196A made up Indian name I gave to the 12 year old Gunn was seething at.
So Gunn was just doing the Snyderverse all over again
>>156240261Yeah, oh well should not let super girl go to shit and not make a podcast where you act like a retard.>>156240305Yeah pretty much but replace the Synder tone with the tone of guardians of the galaxy
>The Batman Who PraysSo regular Batman?>John Byrne’s SupermanSo the Reeves movie again?
>>156240378>The Batman Who PraysLike from that Young Animal event where Batman became a priest?
>>156238263Which year is this? or it is the whole decade? Impressive how in the 90s batman reached top3.Also when I started to read comicbooks in 2003, people used to said that comicbook sales were measure as much as batman sells, for example if batman sold 80k, and then spider-man sold 120k,then means that spiderman were at +40%.
>>156238546fucking idiot keeps putting i's instead of o'syou fucking retard
>>156236902Gunn was fired because the current state of DC is “phew I’m glad we barely broke even on a z list character with no effort made to universe building”
>>156237523Just give me something for the pain and let me die
>>156237535Supergirl and Clayface and then looking at the future lineup being 80% TV shows on random C tier characters probably made the executives want to literally draw and quarter Gunn in that office when he came in asking about a “polka dot man” show, but murder is illegal so they just kicked his ass off the captains chair
