https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfkNY-XBdOc>decide to check out The Question by Dennis O'Neil >go in expecting a grounded detective comic but with a conspiracy nut as the protagonist thanks to JLU >get a dollar store Batman but without any of the compelling writing insteadHis costume's still awesome though
>>156237262All of them.
>>156238012/thread
>>156237262>Decide to check out Denny O'Neil's question>But it's too hard to read comics, so instead I just make up a hot take so I can complain about it on /tg/ftfy
>>156237262Read Ditko Question if you can. Much better. Not exactly JLU version though. O'Neil turned the character into a boring caricature of himself. The entire run is literally just "republicans le bad". I'm not kidding.
>>156238510But Reagan was le bad, though
>>156238538Nta but no one wants to read vague political rantings dressed up as pulp fiction regardless of which politician they are ripping
>>156238538>Someone's opinionBan politics in mainline hero books. Keep it for the pretentious indie shit no one reads.
>>156238571>>156238581this. I read comics to escape the real world, not be dragged into cancerous political discussions.
>t.
>>156238738You're not fooling anyone fag. you know what politics are plaguing comics and it's not shit like that
>>156238784I just used this as an example because it's the first thing I thought of. I'm not trying to say those on the right push their agenda in comics more than the left does, I'm just saying it's annoying whenever it happens regardless of the author's political affiliation.
>>156237262Man-Thing>>156238784It's every political shit, faggy faggot nig nog nigger
>>156238846Ah fair. My apologies >>156238882Go fuck yourself
suprised nobody's posted picrel yet
>>156237262Also Ambush Bug and Heckler >>156238956>it's not shit when my shit is pushedPolitics will always be shit, I don't care what side is more prominent or frequent
>>156238571Very few of my favorite cape comics omit politics.
>>156239182>I don't care what side is more prominent or frequentSo then you aren't actually invested in the subject go fuck yourself >>156239236Well what are they? Regardless though you cannot deny the bias and push politics in comics still have to this day
He has very fun powers. Could have hit the ground running during kung fu crazy in the 70s. He was one of well received parts of the Inhuman push naturally had disappear with all the rest.
>>156237262Ghost Rider.
>>156239236Fag
>>156238510Only good for the art, O'Neil is better. Epitaph for a Hero alone mogs the entirety of Ditko's Question. Even Ditko later claimed his Question was just him doing a sanitized version of what he actually wanted to do when he made Mr A
>>156239290>Well what are they?Mage: The Hero Discovered Astro City v1 and 2Steranko's SHIELD Jack Cole's Plastic Man (aside from the WWII stories)>you cannot deny the bias and push politics in comics still have to this dayI agree that this shit has been awful since the 2010s.
>>156237262The weird Asian obsession this series takes always really put me off with that zen bullshit.
>>156238510>>156239530The true best version of this character is an expy: Rorschach from Watchmen. It's the one the JLU Question was based on.
>>156239772No
>>156238510It's very funny that you see the things he's fighting against in the book and immediately attach them to your political party. You cannot help but align yourself with villains.
>>156238134Not OP but I read the whole thing expecting something good but it ranges from meh to shit.
>>156239772This. Which is ironic since the Question reads Watchmen in one issue and later concludes that Rorschach sucks.
>>156239705Not a fan of mage but good list
>>156240317Nta but it's funny you have no idea who Denny O'Neill is
>>156240403As a superhero/vigilante Rorschach sucks because his method is beating up random scumbags for answers even if that leads nowhere but itdoes appeal to Vic's taste for black/white morality and how his temper makes him genuinely like to beat up people, backfiring on him due not having a good plan and giving in to his impulses
>>156240439>O'NeillUh oh.
>>156238882>Man-ThingGerber?
>>156237262If you think that's bad. Wait till you find out that the question is dead and has been replaced by a alpha bulldyke OC version of Renee' Montoya. She's not even doing the gritty 80's style detective noir or the cool detective conspiracy nut thing.She's just a pussy slaying super dyke who does sub xfiles tier bullshit with some nonsense called "the crime bible".
>>156237262Silver Surfer
>>156239018That's what happens when your comeback is written by a writer who literally throws out all your backstory because he read HUSH and got all the wrong ideas out of it.
>>156242547>written by a writer who literally throws out all your backstory becausei mean at this point having your entire backstory thrown out is just jason's signature move.
>>156242586Judd Winick wrote the guide on how to do it. Its funny because the shit he says about Jason, you think he hated the character. Legit victim-blaming.
>>156237262Does The Question have any notable runs? Or is his bit in The Justice League Animated about the only thing he's got going for him?
>>156242723>Winick wrote the guideRed Hood is arguably the third time that Jason had his entire backstory thrown out for a new arc that was 'better' because it made him edgier. It absolutely happened in crisis and then arguably again in the switch to Starlin who threw out every detail of Jason's background to turn him into 'angry kid'.Once again, having his entire backstory thrown away is his signature move. Kinda like that magic kung fu punch that turns off superpowers. Or his ability to turn into a tentacle monster.
>>156238012I dunno, I think a bunch of the edgy '90s OCs, some of the truly uninspired pastiches from the Golden Age, and all of the DEI characters created in the last ~26 years weren't really wasted potential.
>>156241949Yes, around 50 issues. That's not enough
>>156243784That's more than enough.
>>156237262Everyone dicksucks the DCAU because it's accessible but it actually really sucks as an adaptation.
>>156238756Imagine having the Death of Superman, but without the actual Supergirl.She WAS his original successor.
>>156242002Vic Sage has been back alive for a long time anon, he's one of those characters that were revived with the New 52.Now there are just two Questions, they even considered doing a book with both of them at some point.
Remember New 52 Question who was Narcissus from Greek Mythology?That was wacky.
The Question and Huntress should fuck like Batman and Catwomen won't.
>>156244151
>>156243657>It absolutely happened in crisisYeah, but Crisis was an event that affected the entire DC universe.
>>156239018Everyone at the DC office just hates him.
>>156244151It's not just more accessible, it's also better.
I just kind of like her and they never really used her
>>156244161Sucks that Kara got killed off and erased Post-Crisis.
>>156245894You're free to have that opinion, but I disagree.Honestly, outside of the Batman stuff, it's far from the best version of many of those characters.Hell, sometimes I wonder if they even cared for most of those characters besides the Batman ones.
>>156244151>Everyone dicksucks the DCAU They don't, though.
>>156237262General GrievousCad BanePlo KoonKit FistoBeast got completely shit onDark BeastBeta Ray BillDruidMan-ThingStardustTransonicMidnight Sons in generalLizardGargoyleSleepwalkerFloronic ManBlack OrchidPoison IvySwamp-ThingAquamanDetective ChimpMan-BatMartian Manhunter
>>156247067>>General Grievous>"He has many, many such trophies; the four he carries with him are his particular favorites. One belonged to the interminable K'Kruhk, whom he had bested at Hypori; another to the Viraanntesse Jedi Jmmaar, who'd fallen at Vandos; the other two had been created by Puroth and Nystammall, whom Grievous had slaughtered together on the flame-grass plains of Torvaskl so that each would know the other's death as well as their own; these are murders he recalls with so much pleasure that touching these souvenirs with his hands of armorplast and durasteel brings him something resembling joy.">"But only resembling.">"He remembers joy. He remembers anger and frustration. He remembers grief and sorrow.">"He doesn't actually feel any of them. Not anymore." - (Revenge of the Sith novelization)Grievous could've been so fucking cool, man...
>>156244886tummyslut
>>156245076This character was so hilariously bad and poorly adapted that it comes full circle and ends up being good.
>>156237262Moon Knight
>>156247840To be honest, Moon Knight NEVER had any potential in the first place.
>>156241949It's not very good.
>>156247853>Batman but he has Dissociative Identity Disorder and worships an Egyptian moon god that may or may not be realThat concept sounds pretty cool to me
>>156238738>Vampires are an allegory for being groomed into lopping your dick offBased.
>>156247853Vigilante with multiple personality disorder? Sounds cool. Then you read his comics and... it's not that.
>>156237262>>156240355
>>156247854No potential for it either.
>>156247840RIP JPL
>>156237262Quick Draw McGraw
>>156248480Then what is it?
>>156253208Standard capeshit with a guy that has a shitty secret identity as a cab driver.
>>156253345All of them?
>>156237262>muh dcau Kill yourself
>>156237262We care too much about characters because of the American industry doesn't let them have just one run and doesn't let them have great stories.
Any hero who can't use a turbine is wasted material
>>156246953To this day, I still see people say how it's the best version of the DC Universe and that they wish the live-action movies would just adapt that.It was the first DC exposure to a lot of people, and it made a lot of them consider it as the best version of DC out there.
>>156247867>>156247853>>156247840RAHHHHHHHHHHE'S NOT "MARVEL BATMAN" HE'S "MARVEL'S THE SHADOW"HIS POTENTIAL HAS BEEN CAPITALIZED ON MULTIPLE TIMESREAD A FUCKING MOON KNIGHT COMIC
>>156256007>Moon Knight fans>ever reading a Moon Knight comicin this respect he actually is Marvel’s Batman
>>156256128I read the 2016 run. It wasn't bad.
>>156256007Piss off, retard. His comics suck ass.
>>156255760What is the best version of the DC universe then?
>>156237262OP
>>156256007>/co/>reading comics>ever>instead of just bitching about things that happened in their headlol
This manages to be the gayest thread on /co/, while competing against a thread dedicated to gay marriages and another thread dedicated to male furries.
>>156259819What's gay about it?
>>156259849You, for starters.
>>156259862Well THAT'S where you're right
>>156237262Daemin
