So is the Vivziepop style the new default?
Vivziepoop didnt create sharp features
I thought it was the girl from Johnny Bravo
This girl is gonna get so much porn especially since she's the main antagonist actually
>>156238001It's going to be like how in the Animation Industry where guys who worked on someone else's show are going to take what they learned and apply it to their own, art style and animation includedSo anyone who comes from Spindlehorse and wants to do their own thing is going to bring a bit of Spindlehorse with them
>>156238001This one looks more simplistic and less pointy.>>156238023This, check for other cartoon artists.
>>156238001It's different because there's also huntress wizard
And this is...?
Why do all these fucking theater kids wanna make their cartoons shitty musicals
>>156238487Zipped Up, it's an indie series about two kids named Alejandra and Nelly who travel the multiverse
>>156238459>TV head sexymanIndie creators are genuinely not beating the “we all have the same exact inspirations and ideas” allegations
>>156238023>>156238459You can tell it's not viv because it has one fat character
>>156238527>who travel the multiverseAgain?
>>156238459You all heard of Beanmouth now get ready for Tvhead!
>>156238001Speaking from experience as cartoonist who’s majoring in animation, most young animators these days have a far shallower pool of influence than ever. The people in my classes seem like nice guys, but they don’t branch out all that much, there are students that draw in this vivziepop clone artstyle and students that just copy anime and standard action cartoons in a superficial way (on the bright side, no beanmouth artists though). In terms of storytelling influences they’re pretty generic as well, they mostly take influence from normie shit like stuff Disney/Pixar films, stuff zoomers grew up on like Gumball, popular anime, popular indie cartoons, stuff that’s popular in general right now like Wildwood, the thesis films I’ve seen are clearly apeing Digital Circus or Hazbin Hotel, more than they are inspired from life. I often study niche cartoonists and golden age animators, I seem to be only person in my major who does so, I was talking to some people about something they’re working on and they mentioned how they wanted to include a "SpongeBob close-up", and I mention how that gag originated from Ren & Stimpy and was inspired by Basil Wolvertons illustrations, and I feel they were a bit confused since they likely never watched Ren & Stimpy or heard of Basil Wolverton.I can tell I’m a favorite among my professors for my cartooning and animation history knowledge unlike most other students, which makes sense since a lot of my 2D professors usually encourage students to be more unique, and I can see why. IMO, while I don’t think all cartoons should be "wacky", I feel like both life drawing and studying golden age cartooning principles should be foundational to animation, even the best looking serious cartoons like Samurai Jack or The Maxx wouldn’t have looked as good as they did if the creators didn’t have cartooning experience. They just see golden age techniques as a "style" rather than fundamentals that can develop something unique
>>156238459>>156238073>>156238001Wow this is aggressively unlikable. Why is everything made for Undertale teenagers now?
>>156238758Sorry if I went off on a bit of a tangent by the end but I’m just kinda tired of the homogeneity of modern artist.
>>156238001That's not Viv style, that character has hips.
>>156238735YIPPIE
>>156238758>>156238788Don't worry about it, its interesting to hear from the perspective of someone who's majoring in the field of animation. Are you pretty concerned about your field of work considering the industry seems pretty abysmal right now, or are you confident that things will turn out ok?
>>156238758Aren't young and inexperienced people usually shallow with their influence pool anyway? I would take influences from Go Nagai and Loud House for my art and storytelling and nothing really else. It wasn't until I got out of college that I wanted to really challenge myself and get into more things to help me figure my style of art and storytelling out.I don't think it's bad to be inspired by Vivzie, but it seems /co/ thinks it is because they wanna bash indie cartoons because they need something to criticize or else something bad will happen. I don't know what. Speaking from experience I felt something bad was gonna happen if I don't act cynical and critical
>>156238758I have a similar experience, some of my teachers seem interested in the thesis I'm making and the people I've met in class also fall into this whole issue about "lack of influences". I remember one of the students saying they took inspiration from Big City Greens and I instantly thought "yeah, this sucks".But to be fair, I wish I could re-do the story if I had the time, because what I'm doing tends to fall into the "Cartoon is when anvils and dynamite" alongside some references being quite obvious and it generally lacks something, but I can't put into words what it is.
>>156238001It's better than beanmouths with 0 sharp angles at least
>>156238978>influenced by Loud House>or Savino in generalNigga it's over.
>>156238023The eye shape and sharp teeth is making people skeptical>>156238496I don't get why people in general dive into comedy face first. Very few people are funny and yet a bulk of these projects advertise themselves as comedic when it's cringe
>>156238978>Aren't young and inexperienced people usually shallow with their influence pool anyway?It depends, it is true that people starts developing their inspirations as time goes on, but I do feel zoomers in the 2020's are lagging behind compared to, let's say, millennials in the 2010's. An example I tend to think of is fans of the Pony show, I tend to notice that horsefuckers of old were influenced by noticeably different things from FiM, such as tabletop RPGs like DnD, Sci-Fi shows like Star Trek, videogames (both retro and modern at the time), and fantasy books like Lord of the Rings.Meanwhile, a lot of pony content produced today feels that it was only inspired by the show itself, similar shows to it, other pony artists and social media trends. While I can find more pleasing artists in places like /mlp/, there's a lack of uniqueness and edge among the general community compared to how it was back in the early 2010's.
>>156239057Savino was influenced by sunday funny comics and LH has been carried by other artists much like Ren and Stimpy was carried by Bob Camp.>>156239186Maybe zoomers are too cynical to be influenced by everything else cause they feel most of everything sucks
>>156238001>cute thing is actually a feral gremlin, played completely one-note and straight They’ve gotta hate AI since their “ideas” resemble last year’s AI output and AI can do better than them already.In fact I asked it to do so and she did.
>>156239316niece molester
>>156239376You came up with this slur in 2020 on the basis that creativity can be like “sex,” so an individual creative “must have had metaphorical sex with his family to come up with his ideas,” so gay artists can reject them all.However AI is now here to be extremely helpful at coming up with ideas. Quit coming around with your stuck-in-2020 gibbering.
>>156239376That's not Onlyplays
>>156239436Dude you fucked your niece, you have no room to talk about ANYTHING.In fact, I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about in every thread you are in. You say nonsense that makes no Goddamn sense.You fucked your niece, there is no way around it. Being gay isn't as bad as fucking your family.
>>156238776The industry died so they're going indie now
>>156239499Lovecraft fucked his Niece? Lmao
>>156238001Its actually the "2005-2012 deviantart" art style. Vivzs success just got it mainstreamed.
>>156239499>>156239536I’ve already hit /utg/ because you refuse to stfu, and I’ll escalate >>156239737There was some cool stuff from that era that can be salvaged for making something cool instead of gay and therapeutic
>>156239316>>156239436>Better ideas>Crap any normie could come up with by copy-pasting it from elsewhereBut I doubt it bothers. As long as you can fuck your niece, lacking any semblance of creativity, effort and talent is actually a good thing in your eyes.
>>156239833The fuck is UTG? Is that the place you groom your niece at? EscaIate all you want you dumbass. I just think your a loser who fucks his niece
>>156239217I don't think it's cynicism, it's more that they grew up in an environment where they didn't need to find different things to pass the time with, so they just got used to the internet giving them stuff they already want and they simply got used to only caring for stuff they're already familiar with.
>>156239874From your insane gibberish I can see you’re processing what I said here >>156239436Eventually it’ll be widespread awareness of how gay people function, just like many other things I’ve been saying on 4chan for years that influenced discourse.> any normie could come up with You mean ideas individuals come up with instead of gay social groups. I do want anybody who wants to to be creative without gay people interfering.
>>156239911That makes a lot of senseSometimes I don't wanna do anything because the internet gives me what I want, and what I want, is nothing censored so I don't feel I am missing anything
>>156238001My dick is throbbing like crazy.
>>156239932Your fucked your niece, why do you not wanna acknowledge that?
>>156238876Oh yeah I am, I do have a small feeling or hope that some revolutionary or outside force or something might cause a second animation renaissance sometime near the end of the decade or the early 2030s, but then again I’m worried if it would be indieslop that does so. I’m thinking that if I can’t get into animation I can be an illustrator and graphic novel artist as an alternative career.
>>156238001doens't look nothing like vivs. No line thickness or strong shadows which is arguably their calling card
>>156238758>more than they are inspired from life.isn't this common since the 2000s
>>156239976The bear thing looks blatantly like Zoophobia
>>156240029I mean the lineart style. Clothes designs and expressions are straight up stolen
>>156238758Kind of a shame to hear that. There's a lot of classic stuff that's worth looking at, not just in animation but comics as well. Hell, even the how-to-draw books are still pretty helpful
