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Stuff like the following

- The Sentinel Program is the result of the US Government uncovering and reverse-engineering a damaged Kree Sentry robot. The Sentinels are that size not for efficacy or tactical reasons, but mimicking the systems inside the Sentry required much larger Earth based equipment.

- Clayface, Plastic Man, and the Joker are all the result of the same compound in different stages of refinement/development, with Plas being at the tail end of the substances development (Possibly derived from the same Gingold compound that gives Ralph Dibny his stretching powers). For Joker it simply made him functionally immortal, which is how he keeps coming back from seemingly fatal incidents.

- Every powered human on the planet, apart from the mystically gifted, is the result of Kree genetic manipulation. Either through Self Activation (Mutants), severe external stimulus (Gamma Rays, Vita Rays, Cosmic Rays, Radioactive Spiders), or the intended Terragin Mist exposure. Genetic Drift is the reason for why the same factors can result in similar or wildly different outcomes (Spider-man, Silk, The Thousand).
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>>156239308
Is this why your Plas also became a joker after being a crook?
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>>156239308
Jesus christ that art is disgusting
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I read once comic "Riddler: One Bad Day" that was about how Riddler stopped making riddles and became unstoppable and ruled the whole Gotham. And he was the one who came with Joker's "Killing Joke" plan. And he's so good he can sneak into Batman's house whenever he wants and it ends with overall implication that Batman breaks his no-killing rule to stop him.

At first I just thought it's a really dumb comic but upon longer thought I decide that this is a great fanfic written by Riddler himself. Of course this is what he wants to believe. Of course he think he holds himself back for the fair play and Batman would be stumped if he stopped. And of course he'll never test it. I even believe the ending that Riddler would secretly entertain deathwish fantasies as long as they give ultimate proof he's smarter than Batman.
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>>156239308
Eh. I need to brush up on my Marvel cosmos stuff about the gods and mythology portion of Marvel to see how my other headcanon fits where I need to see if the gods arise from humans and their culture or if they existed even prior to humans which wouldn't make sense. Like for instance, 1 million BC Avengers having Odin before germanic people even thought up the myths is kinda weird and dumb. But on the flipside, I actually do like the idea of a sick Celestial crashing into Earth, and its blood causing mutations and all the stuff that explains why Hulk and Spidey don't die from radiation. The later celestials that investigate the missing sick one, being the ones to experiment and create the X-gene and mutants also falls in line with the eternals and deviants lore. So yeah, Aaron had retarded retcons but I do like that one idea.
The council of the Godheads, I think should just have all those myths explained as arising from around the time each people began to believe in them.
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>>156241243
1 million BC Avengers is dumb because Jason Aaron wrote it
Nothing he’s made is worth anything
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>>156241983
>Because he wrote it
I just wrote you, anon, should get 1 billion dollars and a gorgeous wife. Is that dumb because I wrote it? No. It's dumb because Aaron has written dogshit before and will likely continue writing dogshit superhero stories. And you don't know enough about me to think what I wrote about you is dumb. However, I have not read his indie stuff so I don't know if that stuff is good. Anyway, what I mean to say is that a bad writer happening across a good idea doesn't mean that idea should just be wasted forever like some doomer thinking he will never experience happiness again.
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>>156239308
Parallax should be rebooted into a conscious villain again. There's lots of untapped potential for them to play into a "dirty cop/killer cop" type of persona with him.
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>>156239308
Batman is Orion's Earth counterpart. That's why Absolute Batman wields an axe (a hunter's weapon), acts angrier than his mainline counterpart, and him coming from evil (the Joker's machinations, having Venom forced into his body) is emphasized more.

Explains why Absolute Batman has it better than Superman despite the mainline Batman icing Darkseid. Despite being Darkseid, a father still loves his son.
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>>156239308
God, FF by the Allreds was so good
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>>156242587
>1 million BC Avengers
>a good idea
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>>156243395
It does sound better than what we good.
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>>156239308
>Mutants are a slow evolution activating the Eternal gene in humanity. This is basically what a Mutant Gene is.
>Inhumans are the Kree discovering the Deviant Gene in some humans and artificially activating it, which is why they are largely grotesque mutations.
>Most of the normal humans that also gained a superpower by accident/radiation are also activating the Deviant gene, some activate the Eternal Gene and are indistinguishable from Mutants.
Then
>All mutant powers are ultimately psychic based, since the mutant gene is in the brain. This includes all energy using mutants that have a psychic control over something like the atmosphere or magnetic fields.
>Same with physical mutants, it's a physical manifestation of a psychic event. This is why their powers can be turned off by inhibitor collars or Leech, it attacks the part of the brain that makes the physical mutation appear.
>All Deviant powers are actually physically mutated from the body, if they have an exotic power it's due to evolving an organ to do something like controlling fire.

on to
Eternal Gene activated characters
>Spider-Man, Johnny Storm, Susan Storm, Dagger, Sentry, Electro, Graviton, Julia Spider-Woman, Scorpion, Monica Rambeau,

Deviant Gene activated Characters
>Reed Richards, Ben Grimm, Every Gamma mutate such as Hulk, Leader, Abomination, Doc Samson, Sandman, Lizard, Cloak, Steve Rogers, Rage, Purple Man, Man-Thing, Daredevil.

The main exception are people who are connected to an energy source like Carol Danvers, Nova, Frankie Ray Nova, Wonder Man, Moonstone, Speedball, and Blue Marvel.
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>>156244148
>>All mutant powers are ultimately psychic based
Extend that to all powers regardless of origin, which is why so many characters have aptronyms. It subconsciously fits the power to the person.
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>>156239308
>Wonder Woman DOES have a penetration weakness. It's a mystical Achilles Heel Zeus has in place to keep the Amazon in check. Anything remotely symbolic to a phallis, men, such as a sword, spear, or bullet, can bypass her magical resistance. So that's why she can tank a punch from Blockbuster, but needs to block a bullet
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>>156244135
Because you hear the idea and you start thinking of caveman versions of the classic Avengers, with a version of Iron Man whose armor is made out of stone, and you think of cavewoman versions of Jan, Wanda and Natasha in leather or fur bikinis.

And then you read the comic and you get the slop Jason Aaron actually came up with.
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>>156239308
>Retcon idea
Kill every hero and start over.
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>>156243395
>>156244135
I mean the idea of a historical necessity of a group of earths defenders coming together to save the planet is a neat concept
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My personal headcanon for why Collective Man was so out of character in that X-Men run where he was attempting to become a crime boss was due to some off-panel shenanigans his team had to clean up (typical brainwashing/moral inversion stuff)
Basically an extension for why he's so fucking pissed at American heroes next time he showed up for people thinking New York is the center of the world and not recognizing something was up
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Prolonged constant exposure to anti-telepathy equipment messes with your own brain's functions. Seems the easiest explanation for very noticeable shifts by a few writers.
>>156244148
There is probably something interesting to do with this because psychic powers can be a learned skill.
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Earth is a cosmic accident. A mudball of a world destined to be the egg of a god that was stillborn.
It's blood and cosmic birthright gave birth to the elder gods.
They eventually went to war/insane and had the great war creating greater demons. Gaea shaggged the Sun to create atum who became the demogorge the god eater and slaughter teh greater demons and began to kill the corrupted elder gods before leaving ot the sun
Gaea later retreated to the earth to sleep and rebuild the ravaged world the young life left to grow.
The celestials sought to claim that world and the rich power it held and set up shop
It began to experiment on the ancient humans and even implanted a celestial egg into the world hoping to create an ultimate celestial.
Due to a war between them and the eternals and the demogorge the celestials were force to flee.
The war between the two divergent lesser races created by the celestials, the deviants and the humans came to a stalemate when the teragen mists were discovered creating a second divergent human race. The inhumans.
The war scarred the world leaving few inhumans and the deviants eliminated.

The humans who were poisoned by the various forces and their innate nature to adapt and grow and survive were all given a small percentage of attaining powers.

All humans are potential mutates if the one key transromation factor is applied. But t's a one in a trillion chance of it happening.
The mutants are the humans who were born with the xgene. A celestial genetic trigger created to cause humans to hyper evolve and mutate quickly based on nearly anything.
The trigger that all humans have that will cause a mutate transformation is replaced with the xgene. A hyper reactive universal trigger that seeks out any external source too kick off a mutation/hyper adaptation.
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>>156245007
I think most of this is already official.
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>>156239308

The qualifications of a GL ring is more than just "Lots of will" . You can't just be "Willful" you need to be able to MAINTAIN that Willpower.

this is what I think are the parts to it
1. Have great willpower
2. Maintain that willpower on a consistent basis
>(This part filters out hysterical strength moments. If you're will only really exists for a second or two, you're just dug deep, not being willful )
3. Be mentally sound
>(This is a made up part by me to justify why crazies don't join regularly. )
4. Pure Will needs to be the dominate emotion , or one of the most dominant emptioms
>(Gets rid of people like Lex for Greed, Batman, for Fear, and Wonder Woman for Love. Sire they can be candidates, but not first picks)

The whole of the rings criteria off course can be adjusted on a few cases but it still usually needs to remain consistent
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>>156243395
Anon, I literally fucking wrote
> I actually do like the idea of a sick Celestial crashing into Earth, and its blood causing mutations and all the stuff that explains why Hulk and Spidey don't die from radiation.
And the rest I said was dumb. Fucking hell.
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>>156244476
It is slop, writing-wise and what he does but I still like the character concepts they did come up with like the phoenix force being exactly like Jean except in that fur outfit you described. Granted, it could have been sexier. Odin is the only one thag I believe shouldn't have been there yet.
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>>156239308
It's a bit of a dumb concept but one of mine is that Cloak and Daggers power are innately magic based, and the drug that caused them to get their powers was a magic drug, literally.
The drug itself was an experiment by some occult group that was doing what the CIA once did to see if their drug worked as intended. Most people died but a select few with strong or specific souls became magical
There's a Riri Williams comic that does also continue that where it shows that her birth father went through a "clinical drug trial" that was actually a cult looking for magical potential in peope and Awakening it via a strange drug
The pair were lucky that they were near eachother or they would've died that night a


If I had a chance I'd legitimately make a book where Cloak and Dagger fight the cult and discover other survivors. A real jojo story
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>>156244354
Impressive anon, but I give you a counterpoint: fisting.
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>>156245058
Some of it is, the reasons for most of it happening and why Earth is a "There be dragons here" type of place to most of the Galaxy and some cosmic entities is what I changed.
The reasons for human mutates and mutations was changed as well.
The xgene just being random nonsense because celestials is kind of dumb.

I also had an idea of Apocalypse being a herald/gardener/shepard of the celestials but he's too tied to mutants for it to work without rejiggeringg everything.
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>>156239308
One thing that kinda bothers me is how a lot of Earth sciences aren't ever really seen in alien civilizations.
To use marvel - Where are the Pym particles in space? Why aren't there any space civilizations that you see use them.
What about phasing tech?
And so on

My idea, earth is the only place with enough anomalies let such scientific Discoveries exist
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>>156244148
How does this explain sorcerers
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>>156245766
>What about phasing tech?
But you have teleporters all the time which operate on a similar principle.
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Barbatos from Snyder's mid Metal stories is the reason Bane fucking hates Batman.
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>>156239308
>Plastic Man
Fuck off. He's not a DC original character. Fuck DC. The only true Plas is the Quality Comics version. End of story.
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>>156239308
In DC comics Galaxy has shown an ability to interfere with Green Lantern constructs and Dreamer’s dream energy using her energy manipulation abilities.

This has led me to the headcanon that all psychic abilities in the DC universe originate from the emotional spectrum and the lantern rings are just the most refined and purified version of them.
Martians coloration is because they’re tied to will. The naltorians use blue energy because they project hope. Manchester Black’s psychic abilities come from a mix of the green and indigo lights, etc
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>>156239308
My personal retcon would be that the Emotional Spectrum of the Lanterns parallels the chakra system. Green Lanterns are mistakenly associated with Willpower when they are in fact rooted in Unconditional Loving-Kindness.

A Lantern is capable of ascending and descending depending on their spiritual-emotional maturity.

>>156245812
I would personally retcon Barbatos to be a God of Chaos who rivals Darkseid as a God of Order. Both of them dwell within Gotham City's collective unconscious. Barbatos is Luciferian and follows Left-Hand ideology while Darkseid is strictly Ahrimanic. Barbatos favors Batman when he fights the mob while Darkseid favors Batman when he becomes a force of law. Barbatos' favorite "puppet" is the Joker and the reason behind TKJ and Bruce/Barbara is partly due to Barbatos having the cosmic equivalent of a crush on Batgirl and not being wise/mature enough to handle it.
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>>156245831
Actually I have something that kinda counters this
It's said the the Collecrive Unconscious - one of the 7 Harmonious Forces - governs intellect and psychic powers. A majority of psychic stuff is the result of the CU but how can emotion and thorough be both serrated and connected.
Well remeber when the flash introduced the 4 total cosmic forces, such as the Sage Force

The Sage Force is effectively a connective force, one that bridges the Colective Unconscious, the psychic realm, the Emotional Spectrum, and the physical mind
The Sage Force is the connective tissue of all thing mental
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>>156245831
>>156245918
I feel like our two retcons could work well together since it ties most telepathy and dream energy (the basis of my head canon) to the third eye chakra and Manchester Black’s purple power to the crown
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>>156245942
Interesting. I wonder if perhaps these are intertwined concepts. Maybe we’re making a mistake trying to separate various forces of the DC universe when in reality they are more akin to a coral reef or fungal networks. A sort of metaphysical ecosystem feeding into each other and keeping everything running
If so, it would be interesting if disrupting one had a knock on effect on the others, such as the Sage force causing an interference with the Green
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Good thread lads
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>>156240236
Harsh..



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