Does movie synergy actually work or is it just something they keep insisting on doing?
>>156241638How is this synergy? I feel like people say it happens way more than what actually happens
>>156241638>Does movie synergy actually workOutside of Blade I'm drawing a blank.
>>156241663>Thunderbolts used to be about a team of villains who were pretending to be heroes, and then end up liking it and becoming sincere about it.>Major members included Atlas, Songbird, Moonstone, Baron Zemo, The Beetle, The Fixer>Now its a team of anti-heroes starring Valentina, Yelena, Bucky, US Agent and Red Guardian (aka the movie version of Thunderbolts)>They're fighting Doom (villain advertised for latest movie)
>>156241638It works. It just doesn't work on the sense you're thinking. It won't overtake the comics and generate a 'permanent' status quo that the existent audience favors.It works by boosting sales marginally while the movie is in theaters, to let nature run its course once the movie leaves the zeitgeist (whether it means the status isn't focused on as much, or the book is simply cancelled). And that's the only reason they insist on it.
>>156241793Doom isn't really evidence of that because he's constantly used anyway.
>>156241793>Now
>>156241638Bucky's suit design is just smooth latex?
>>156241638Generally speaking, it doesn't work. To this day, I have never met anyone who said they were turned off by a comic because Spider-Man used mechanical web shooters, because Nick Fury was white, because Gamora and Nebula didn't seem to know each other or because the fucking Infinity Gems had different colors. If anything, I can only recall comic fans being annoyed when those things were changed to reflect movies, when it comes to people who first watched the movies they either don't seem to care or they remain ignorant of the comics and just assume the changes weren't changes in the first place.The funny things is that the adaptations wane in popularity and the publisher can feel which way the wind is blowing, they typically just revert these elements back to what they were. Which is why Spider-Man's powers became what they used to be right around the time it became clear there wasn't going to be a Spider-Man 4.
>>156241853Tbh, the spider-man power reversal happenened before spider-man 3 was out. BND was supposed to be 2006/7, it was delayed DUE to spider-man 3. (One good case of synergy i can think of)
My fave movie synergy story has to do with Agatha Harkness>Hadn't been used since 2001>Is an old lady ghost in MCU canon>Agatha gets popular in the MCU due to Kathryn Hahn>They resurrect the character, quite literally>Oh shit Agatha in the comics is nothing like Kathryn Hahn, lets de-age her and have her revert to her "younger personality" which is more morally dubious a bit like MCU Agatha>As they do this, the MCU turn Agatha into an old lady ghost
>>156241848Unless the price is right Dodson isn't big on details.
>>156242699The Dodsons are mediocre.
>>156241848Feels comfy
>>156242623This costume is so ugly, it has too many little details to not be done half-assed at multiple panels
>>156241793This is a fairly disingenuous example, the Thunderbolts name has been used for a lot of other groups of characters between the original team and the recent movie-inspired book, it hadn't been the same thing with the same characters all the time for decades until movie synergy. The Thunderbolts brand had become whatever Marvel wanted it to be, it shouldn't be surprising that a movie did the same. The MCU didn't even have a cast of recurring/surviving lower-tier villains you could even do the original book's gimmick with anyway.>>156242623IIRC she got resurrected back in 2016, but the rest is correct. But the best/worst movie synergy story will always be when Marvel's "Creative Committee" got disbanded and cut out of the loop, then Bendis killed War Machine in Civil War 2 because a trailer made it look like he was going to die in the Civil War movie.>>156244113Even with a good or popular costume, simplicity is a good thing. The more elaborate detail the costume's designer adds, the more nobody else will want to draw all that, they'll either cut corners and half-ass it, or change the costume ASAP. The only real exception that's lasted forever is artists having to draw all that web detail over Spider-Man's costume.
>>156244336>Even with a good or popular costume, simplicity is a good thingOP is a example of costumes that are too simple or didn't had too much thought put into it
>>156241638this nigga's art fell off so hard
>>156244044no, dude
>>156242623less extreme example is the comics changing Quake to look like Chloe bennette and the very next season of Shield they were having Chloe look more comic accurate. Between shit like these and Bendis killing rhodey based off a trailer. The comic side is just doing this stupid shit all on their own with basically no communication between departments.
>>156244336There is also Carol becoming half kree when they herd Mar-vell wasn't going to be in the movie
>>156241638the closest it ever came to working was The Walking Dead (and maybe Invincible, idk, idc enough to find out), when a whole lot of Volume 1 TPBs were sold, a few vol2s, with diminishing returns; turns out what tv audiences want is insight into how a popular show is going to pan out, not a fucking Cerebus the Aardvark style monologue of the author's neuroses broken up into "dialogue" for poorly-conceived characters to deliver in the middle of endless miserypornbut no, not really; back in 2008, for example, even 1% of the people who saw Iron Man or Batman in theaters buying the books literally on sale at that time under those titles would have given them sales that absolutely shit on what we know the top-selling titles that year were (hint: it was all Secret Invasion, and it would still have been destroyed by Batfags if they could read)shit in 2011 the Green Lantern movie sold like 14 million movie tickets to idiots; now maybe that was 1 million idiots who went to see it 14 times each, and maybe it wasn't, but if it were then you'd expect those obsessive fuckwits to buy the book, and between June and October that year when it came out and went to video respectively, GL sold under a million copies across like 15 fucking titles and christ knows how many issues; it only broke 140k on the main book because it relaunched in September, which was back then a normal relaunch number and didn't even put it in the top 2, and was back down to 100k by December and its pre-relaunch 75k soon aftertl;dr so yeah if you want to briefly sell a few tens of thousands more copies of a comic book a 200 million movie is the way to advertise it
>>156241638Yes.
