Why was Stolas so much better as an unambiguously, unapologetically evil sex pervert who was clearly meant to be somebody the audience would love to hate?
>>156243797Because they weren't trying to make you feel sorry for him.
Why does this show and hazbin make autistic people want to write 500 pages of fanfiction for every single character?
>>156243797They allowed you to make your own judgement on him rather than try to force audience sympathy by stripping him of agency. He went from being entertaining as a perverted antagonist to being a sad, still pervered child.
>>156243847Because each character is so poorly fucking written that anyone with a brain could do better.
Because he was true to himself.
>>156243797Despite how well Vivziepop draws, how the fuck did she even get a cartoon series for a TV platform or streaming service that we have right now?
>>156243797This is pure headcanon and most of the people here don’t seem to get that you are supposed to hate the class system which the show is commentating on.
>>156245434Why does Stolas exploit the system if it's supposed to be bad and he's supposed to be good?
>>156245434Helluva Boss class system exists only in theory and twitter. Hard to hate it when it barely matters.
>>156243797I feel like vivzie doubted herself and adapted to the undertale/gen z writing mob. She shoulda stuck to her guns and used 2000s comedies as her inspiration like she originally planned.
I just think the Octavia drama is silly. They're evil beings who live in Hell she's mad he wasn't a good Christian father? I'm torn on the idea that Christ is the truth when to these demons is rather based but I think it's more: "edgy middle school logic" than anything. Also, like why doesn't he hurt kidnap her if he misses her that much? I feel like it's out of character for the series not to
Because the show didn't hit you over the head that you were supposed to feel sorry for him. Despite being a selfish pervert you could see he had good qualities early into season 1 did care for Octavia despite being a homewrecker. There was a balance and the audience was allowed to draw their own conclusions about whether or not they liked Stolas.I feel like the "love to hate" kind of character is better done with Valentino in Hazbin Hotel. He's extremely selfish, perverted, manipulative, a drama queen and a brat, but he's funny and has charisma. Him acting like a drama queen Disney Princess because Vox is ignoring him is funny, even if some people read that as woobifying the DVD commentary makes it clear the intent was to show him being overdramatic and the narrative is not begging you to feel bad for him. He's still a bad guy and the show makes that obvious.But with Stolas? The show beats you over the head that you should feel bad for him, that his wife is a bitch, Blitz is mean to him, yadda yadda yadda. To the point where he never faces any kind of (meaningful) consequences for his actions. And then the next episode tries to do this centrist "him and Blitz were both in the wrong!" BS despite that situation clearly being Stolas's fault. Point is, the writers clearly prefer Stolas over Blitz, the show tries to say they're both terrible people (which is true) but Blitz suffers more for it despite trying ro improve while Stolas gets to be happy and remain a shitty selfish asshole.
>I miss the old stolas, straight from the go stolas
>female stolasperfect>twink prince stolaspretty good>basic bitch male slut stolasruined
>>156246040>It's better than regular sex. Is it really?
The only Stolas merch I got is this old standee that shows a bit of his demon form, and it feels like it's from an alternate universe, given how the show treats him and what's available.
>>156246977Season One Stolas, come back.Remember when he scared the DHORKs? I miss that shit.
hell is enjoying this show for its characters, and having to see the shittiest writing imaginable turn them into flanderized jokes, and having nobody to talk to about this because the rest of the fandom is screaming unsocialized 20 year old former ipad kids
>>156243797People like "Fuck you, I'm a cunt" way more than "abloobloobloo here's my backstory, please forgive me for killing and raping billions (my punishment is that I feel really bad)"
Just realized that Vivzie was trying to Bojack Horseman with Blitz but failed because she never bothered to show Blitz actually doing anything bad. So basically we are just left with a bunch of people telling us that Blitz is a “le bad person” while Stolas goes around being a vile traitorous faggot with no consequences.
>>156248127It's like if Diane was siphoning Bojack's karma
Im at the episode with blitzo and that clown, and I cant even force myself to finish up the episode. I dunno guys, this gay stuff and bad writing is really putting me off. What do you do in a situation like this? Should I skip the episode? Drop this hot garbage altogether? I really need some mindless entertainment to turn off my brain, but its getting harder and harder to find anything like that.
>>156246029Blitzo isn’t innocent either, and he’s arguably worse than Stolas. He killed his mom, burned his best friend alive to the point he became a quadriplegic, murders humans for a living including children, hurt god knows how many people by being a terrible romantic partner, and more. He’s perfect for Stolas because he’s the exact same as that self absorbed retard.
>>156248127>murdering people for a living isn’t badDo you actually believe he’s done nothing wrong, or do you just hate Stolas more?
>>156245434But what if one of my powerfantasies is being a noble and having tea parties and HUMILIATING and EXILING my rivals with my superior noble gossiping?
>>156245434I feel people hating on Stolas and how he is now is honestly genuinely bizzare.It's pretty clear from even the pilot he's always been a fag and sex pervert.Him losing his powers doesn't make him any less of a sex pervert. But people don't like him now because he's normal and still a fag?Even if you wanna say the writing is shit, its pretty clear all this is intentional? He's always been like this and he's always been a shitty person. But back then he was someone with power, class and 'aura' compared to now.
>>156243797Because you are a straight male watching woman media into of male media.You need to read vivzie's art through the lens of her being a straight white passing latin woman with a furry and yaoi fetish.Or in short, she is a faghag that gets off on retarded telenovela melodrama and thus all of her art is just that, a vehicle for faggot melodrama and shitty musical numbers.
>>156244406By becoming a sell out.
>>156243797He was so much better in season 1.He was just a sex pest...and thats what made him a fun character. Also once they stopped censoring his swearing, his character started going downhill.
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>>156246977S1: StolasS2 and 3: Stolas but flanderized
>>156245434Why doesn't Charlie dismantle the class system instead of trying to redeemed sinners?
>>156251905Hellborn aren’t worth saving.
>>156251905>>156251985TIDTSD
>>156250566I ALWAYS hated Stolas.
>>156246915Depends.
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>>156250566People don't hate him because he's a fag and a sex pest, they hate him for abandoning his family and then abandoning his boyfriend just to be a massive slut and the town bicyclenone of these things were in the pilot, frogposter
>>156243797Because he was an evil demon and you knew that going in so it was fine and it was fun. Now with the show though he’s not evil anymore he’s just a boring sad sack.
>>156243847caters to trannys (high density autistic demographic)
