GUNN STATUS?
>>156246934Jammed
>>156247448Zacked even.
>>156246934DISMANTLED!!
>>156246934Why is Superman such box office poison?Why didn't he just make Batman movies?Questions that must be answered.
>>156246934Vaulted, just like the Batgirl movie
>>156246934forgot Simon existed until now what a wasted character
>>156246934KWAB!
>>156247500>Why is Superman such box office poison?normies hate superman as a character because he's perceived as lame. plut a lot of people disliked the last movie
>>156247500Because the only way to make superman work is to have a child like whimsy and never be serious. Anything else is going to be nonsense. Think about how powerful he is and what he can do and should do. You have to make so many allowances for why he doesn't save people and use his godlike powers to fix the planet.
>>156247517he has interesting origins but beyond that he's the retard lantern who goes around with a gun. completely redundant, although that could be said of any human lantern introduced after kyle
do you think if they just spammed batman movies like sony spams spiderman movies that they would make thier money back?
>Gunn>gets fired
>>156247574There was a 5 year gap between the last two Spider-Man movies
>>156247580yeah but there was also that spiderman cartoon with the nig spider man and also they tried to do a bunch of spiderman villan movies but no one gave a shit kek
>>156247574Yes. It's been proven for decades that works. They're too retarded for that though
>>156247565>Because the only way to make superman work is to have a child like whimsy and never be seriousNah
>>156247591Right I forgot about the Spider-Verss
I have two ideas for a superman movie.1. the villain of one movie should be Manchester black, he is a stand in for all the people who say superman is out of date and shit, it would be a very meta movie. gunn should have made black the villain of the superman movie and black would have basically been the personification of pol, alt right, trump, and every person who thinks superman is out of date2. my second idea is less thought out but it would basically be a psychedelic trippy surreal adventure where superman fights mr mxyzptlk
>>156246934Now we get to enjoy nothing but Batman and Batman related things for the next however long.I don't love everything Gunn has done but he definitely understood the vibe of DC comics.
>>156247603I liked Smallville back in the day, but its objectively a bad show.
>>156247628>black would have basically been the personification of pol, alt right, trump, and every person who thinks superman is out of date...Nigga.
>>156247565>Think about how powerful he is and what he can do and should dojust lower his power level he wasn't always so stupidly overpowered in the first place
>>156247603He's barely golden age superman level in strength. Hell he's no stronger then...starfire and doesn't have flight for most of the show. And the show is 100% cw teenybopper stuff. Anon, read the entire post before you answer.
>>156247634The last batman movie sucked dick and there hasn't been a decent batman cartoon in over a decade and Kevin Conroy is dead. Hell joker was assraped metaphorically and litterally as a warning to uppity normies by the powers that be and Harley Quinn has been BPD + every hated foid loser feminist bitch that ruined every single corner of media aimed at the male sex. Batman is done.
>>156247666I hate that you’re right.
>>156247666Uh huh. Batman still laps the rest of the industry in comics despite all that and being handled by retards. Batman handled by someone with more than two braincells prints money.
>>156247660>He's barely golden age superman level in strength.And?
>>156247666And he won't go for a lap at the pool!
>>156247715No one cares about the comics except comic fans. The vast VAST majority of batman fans have never even touched a paper comic in their lives. And because of that, the IP NEEDS to remain fresh and normie friendly.It's not been any of that in the last decade or more. And with attention spans shrinking and a massive glut of AI garbage out there...that's a very bad thing.
Bet the Supernerds are crying right now. Fucking losers.
>>156248045>the IP NEEDS to remain fresh and normie friendly.Autists will NEVER understand this.
There was a time (this year) where retards were insistent that a superman movie which failed to outperform an even older superman movie UNADHUSTED for inflation was also somehow successful.
>>156247500Because Matt Reeves already had his own Batman movie going on and WB didn’t want multiple Batman running around out of fear it will confuse general audiences.
Why is it hard for any DC project outside of Gotham to do well?
>>156247500>Why is Superman such box office poison?in reality he isn't, it's just that gunn's movie sucked and misunderstood the character thanks to his jaded view of comic books and their anthics>Why didn't he just make Batman movies?people would probably say it was just because of battinson but it can't be that alone, he probably knew that whatever his ideas for batman were it was going to get some mixed views if not outright disliked, he is the type of nigga that would unironically ask why doesn't bruce just give away all his money to make gotham an utopia
>>156247500Batman didn't save the Zackverse nor the batman movie break any record. Why you people keep acting like Batman would have sure saved the DCU?
>>156247500>Why is Superman such box office poison?He isn’t a poison. It just so happens he’s too strongly associated with United States as a country and if you haven’t noticed, people fucking hate America a lot these days. It’s also a problem that Superman requires tons of effects if you’re going to showcase his powers so it’s not cheap to make a Superman movie and that means the box office expectations are always high and the movies can’t meet them in the current market >Why didn't he just make Batman movies?Because they were already doing Matt Reeves’ Batman and you can’t build your cinematic universe around just making tons of Batman movies. People get bored from oversupply
>>156248280>Superman was too jaded Come the fuck on
>>156248045Absolute Batman is the freshest and normies friendly any cape has been in years >But the MCU!That's started two decades ago
>>156247500Superman has become impossible to convince people anything is at risk, this all suspense and thrill of a plot is DOA.You could possibly pull Secret Identity Superboy off, but you have to do two essential things to Superman to fix him for movies to work.One: Kryptonians have power limits.Two: all Kryptonians age at Human rates. If you start Superman at 30, he has to be struggling within the next movie, because he's too old.This is the only way to distinguish the DC League from Marvel while still using it. DC heroes must be legacy jobs, while Marvel keeps the characters mostly.Spider-Man will never be removed far from Peter Parker.Superman can be anyone else but Clark Kent, if we have Clark shown to age out of being Super.
dc never learns
>>156247561and yet they put superman 1 and 2 on a pedestal
Dead Company? Dead Company.
>>156248445No one gives a fuck about the comics dude, stop coping about this, it's fucking pathetic.
>>156247500Superman has always been kind of boring compared to Batman.In an era where people have little to no faith in the systems that make up their countries, they're going to have very little interest in the "old fashioned boy scout do-gooder," since a lot of people hate the people in power more than anything, and Superman isn't really tackling things like corruption as much as someone like Batman. Put simply, I think we've largely passed the age of the hero and reached the age of the vigilante.
>>156246934FIRED
>>156247500Superman can't survive in a cynical world, which is why there was no Superman in the 90s and the 21st century Supermen either tried to be dark and new or cynically copy the old ways...
>>156248579>>156248643The problem isn't Superman. He is an icon and neither Batman nor Spider-Man at the highest of their popularity ever reached the highest of Superman's popularity that made him the most famous cape character in the world to this day. The problem is DC mishandling him for decades and approving projects like dark knight returns and injustice that showed Batman being cooler and better than Superman which it did him no favors among the younger generation. They literally sabotaging him in favor of Batman and spent decades only caring about him whether in media or comics. It wasn't until Gunn who forced to DC to put Superman front and center which made him appealing to the younger generation and it did work, but it still needs years to fix the damage they have done.
>>156248398that is what the cynical version of james gunn superman is, he sees all the silly and ridiculous but none of the heroics
>>156248818Superman hasn't been at the peak since 1980, shit has been fucked since. At some point if a property can't get it right for a whole generation there might be something else was.
>>156247628>you better stop saying might makes right, or I will forcibly impose my ideals on you with my strength!!Didn't age well
>>156247500>Why is Superman such box office poison?Superman is fine. The GL brand, however, seems cursed. Every time there’s an attempt to promote it, the project fails spectacularly, undermining any efforts to build a cinematic universe.
>>156247500b-but real Superman just hasn't been tried yet!
>>156247628Zoomers see this story as a boomer ranting about the younger generation
>>156248457I'm not opposed to have Kryptonians age normally but to we've seen too many elderly characters be competent past 50 in multiple genres to have Superman 'struggle after 30'
>>156247628>>156249473I feel like it would just lead to, y'know, "Manchester-posting", "times where you were literally Manchester Black"Has that vibe, really unsubtle political satire to a jaded audience. Even non-trump fans having their fill of the shitposting
>>156250010>but to we've seen too many elderly characters be competent past 50 in multiple genresI feel like every modern action franchise has geriatrics doing everything.
>>156247634Did he? Cause everything after Superman (Creature Commandos, Supergirl, Lanterns) didnt feel DC.
>>156247500
>name is Gun>never made a Batman moviehmmmm
>>156248579but if billionaires are a primary group fucking all of us, you would think a billionaire superhero wouldnt work now either
>>156247628Black would consider Trump an republicans nazis
>>156250558We all know he's a fag, anon
>>156247628>the villain of one movie (...) should be (...) a stand in for all the people who say superman is out of dateThat's a good idea. >the personification of pol, alt right, trumpGenuinely pathetic. Rope yourself.
>>156248024Too weak
>>156248530>He posts this in a fucking comics board
>>156248579This is one of the most retarded Takeshi I've read in this board and that's quite a feat
>>156247500they wouldn't let him get batman because normies hate robin
>>156247628This wouldn't work because Black and his team were a bunch or anarquists, him suddenly spewing MAGA points would be wildly out of character.
>>156250909>Wanted to skip straight to Damian as RobinYeah no nigga
>>156247655but then fags would complain that he isn't powerful enough
>>156250876It's amazing how I can immediately tell this post was typed by someone in their 40s.
>>156249096it's not that the nature of comic books is the reason why these live action attempt keep failing there is no correct way to adapt them and that's the problem too many continuities and "my version" of batman, superman etc that these hollywood fucks just pick and choose from
>>156250952Only dbfags care about powerlevels
>>156251010How come Marvel didn't have this problem then?
>>156251030Because they turned their superheroes into action heroes.
>>156250310Because it had state of the art special effects and people wanted to see that.
>>156248479modern normies don't give a shit about superman 1 or 2
>>156248818It's make tha case that Spider-Man is going through the highest peak of pouplarity he's ever been, to the point that he's now THE image of superheroes to the world.
>>156246934>it's already deadshit that was quickit's so fucking over DCbros
>>156248818>He is an icon and neither Batman nor Spider-Man at the highest of their popularity ever reached the highest of Superman's popularity that made him the most famous cape character in the world to this day.
>>156251326only millenials thinks of this
>>156251010Just start doing standalone stories based on classic imprints.Adapt Gotham by Gaslight, or something.
>>156247510Fuuuuuuck me...
are you telling me the gorilla grodd show is going to become LOST MEDIA????
