What the fuck are you waiting for, /co/? Make your own cartoon, stop waiting for Disney or CN or Nickelodeon to hire you. The indie route is the only route left for creators.
BETTER BLOW JOBS THAN NO JOBS AM I RIGHT FELLAS
>>156250653Time to set up a pointless Discord server!
>>156250653If animation is so hard how are there a million random teenagers on youtube who have the time and skill to make it?
>>156251443Because they're failing socially and acacemically.
>>156251443Most of those cartoonists are finding it tough moving forward from their own pilots
>>156250653They don't want to do that, they want a full time, steady job as an animatic editor or coordinator or revisionist or archivist on The Scrimblos, even if nobody watches it
>>156251443nobody does shit for the sake of making it anymore, everything has to involve fucking money or some xitter popularity
>>156250653Why's /co/ so obsessed in making this guy a lolcow?
>>156252094I have no idea who this guy is, he just popped up in my recommended
>>156250653For the blackrocks and foid/queer alliance to be fully deposed and for an organic streaming and active television network to be created. If not then I'm at the mercy of the algo and "them".
>>156250653Gen X has officially entered their Boomer phase. Anyone with 3 light switches and that much shit hanging on their wall has no right to be telling anyone about the economy.
>>156250653cool fedora
>>156251619Craig and TCats Roar were alright and I've heard good things about Summer Camp Island
>>156250653>the "indie" route1. you have to already have art friends. If you do not have art friends you cannot "hire" talent for your show.2. you must have at least 5,000 to 10,000 followers on social media. If you do not have 5,000 to 10,000 followers on social media you cannot recruit unpaid art talent or advertise your indie show.3. you must create a kickstarter. This is mandatory to extract money from people that will fund your indie cartoon. You must also have at least 25% of your cartoon finished at this point, otherwise you will have nothing to show offIf you do not meet any of these requirements, your cartoon will fail.
>>156250653I’m making games instead. Doing some cool custom animations is all I really want out of drawing cartoons.>>156252014Yeah that happens when animation communities don’t go “whoa that’s cool” and instead perform the most obnoxious and gay behavior you need payment to even consider dealing with, like trying to get artists canceled for using AI.
>>156252014>nobody does shit for the sake of making it anymoreRecession indicator as the younglings say.
>>156254351You've defeated yourself before you even started with your rationalizations and arbitrary goalposts. Start with step one before worrying about step one hundred.
>>156252014people did things in hope it would become profitable some day
>>156254797>just make the film bro, yea it doesn't matter if it sucks or only gets 100 views on youtube, at least you made it!
>>156254516Nobody wants your slop you niecefucker.
>>156254202Roar's pilot was okay, everything else was wasting mostly competent action sequences in awful designs.
>>156255284This but unironically
>>1562543514. Ability to draw in a style the looks 90% similar to vivziepop, if it doesn't look like vivziepop you will fail5. One TV head character, one trans character, and tumblr sexyman. Combine these at your leisure 6. A copy of toon boom harmony premium ($1,161 per year)
>>156250653I can't afford it.
I don't get why it's so hard, they made the instructions for a successful indie cartoon a decade ago. Just follow the directions
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>>156250653How do we bring animation jobs back?
>>156256182Man Adventure time weighed heavy on this mans mind. Though it's done some pretty fowl damage to the landscape I wouldn't put in the same leauge as steven universe (the obvious other stand in chart).I'd like to see this generations bitter synics make a 3D indie show graph.
>>156257746Make a pitch bible for that idea you had when you where 14.
>>156258081When I was 14 I came up with the X men but they're all furries and go to a nomal high school
>>156250653streaming is a zero sum gameanimation can be very profitable but it usually is very unprofitable for how much it costs
Why can't he take responsibility for killing the industry before gen z got a chance to make fnaf and mrbeast inspired cartoons?
>>156250653I mean didn't this guy relentlessly go after his old boss (Butch Hartman)? He sold out his employer for the sake of earning some fleeting twitter clout and now he's effectively blacklisted, kek
>>156255345Someone’s jealous + talking to himself
>>156250653But indie fans are mean
>>156259940This is why I stopped making RWBY stuff.
>>156257746There is literally not a single financial incentive to bring animation jobs back. It is far more profitable for shareholders not to pay American workers and artists.
>>156258096Furries have deep pockets so I say you shouldn't discount your own ideas. Just be ready to take an angle grinder to it to smooth off those rough edges and Oww the Edges. You're bound to have something
>>156250653Someone should make a playlist of "Retired and Near Retirement Animation Vet Tells (You) To Adapt or Die". Like seriously man I gave up pursuing animation like in 2019 and ever since COVID some old ass fucking Boomer/Gen X guy whos reaped all the rewards goes on Youtube and gives their dumbass "take" that boils down to "Sorry guys we fucked everything up and everyone in TAG just fought for benefits for us and not for (You) but you just gotta adapt theres nothing I can do cause I got my bag Im good." To be fair this guy takes the fucking cake>Actually young boys and girls there were never actually any REAL jobs in art/animation/media in general its just a lifestyle broHoly fucking shit dude FUUUUUUCK YOU its fucks like this being they key reason why I gave up animation in 2019, I cant imagine ever working in the same rooms as these fucks. Like this fag cant even drop some knowledge on jobs in other fields its literally all "Back in my day blah blah blah" Anyways if you are an artist looking for art related work here are some links>artinfoland.comA place that posts listing for contests and residencies from around the world, and depending on which listing you can get a full ride and even a stipend for your efforts(Do not however pay for their membership, all you gotta do is create a free account and you get the weeks listings in your email, then you can look up that listing online with Google or whatever to find the original source of the listing and apply with that. Their dumb membership is more for the convenience of applying)>arts.ca.gov/opportunities California specific, I know but same deal, it lists open job opportunities or contests/internships. I suggest those in different states also look into government resources.Hell if you are a legit fucking baby out of HS go to community college for art and get FAFSA, pretend to have a job in the arts for 2 years and grind your skills
>>156260363Yeah last decade it was>Animation is a PRODUCT. Art is what you do in your FREE TIME.and today it's >There were NEVER any art jobs
>>156250653Okay. Give me at least a million dollars
>>156255360Fair enough, I can't really argue with that.
