Curare
>>156252708I wanna see her during bulking season
>>156252708Could a real life murderer do what she did and get away with it?
>>156252827Several did. They all get caught eventually though.
>>156252833If they got away with it no one else would know about it.
>>156252827BTK did, but he had to fuck it all up cause he was the biggest douchebag ever
>>156252827Israel Keyes could have kept going had he not changed his M.O from simple murder to extortion There's the idea that Ted could have kept going had he not sperged out and ran off during his first trial>>156253120Fascinating how much of a buttmonkey BTK is among the Serial Killer "Community"Even the one's who get caught think he's a loser
I don't follow serial killer fandom, who it BTK?
Tranqed and raped, left sticky in the woods with no idea of who left their gravy in her gaping shame-caves.
>>156253352Beef Taco Kevin. He kidnapped a bunch of kids and fed them into a grinder, disposing of the evidence by selling his mystery meat to shady tacquerias.
>>156253352dennis rader. BTK stood for "bind, torture, kill". his modulus operandom
>>156252827I mean, maybe at the time she was doing it, but that's kind of the point, her life is being shifted by the relative modernity of 90s internet/mass communication.
>>156253387Why did Sam bother doing anything she did with her?
>>156253425lol she was bored lmao
>>156252827everything except the arson attack/escape
>>156253809That was retarded. She was able to fire bomb the entire town but needed a patsy to rob a baby's room?
>>156253822The thrill of manipulating a desperate woman.
>>156252708Rinny for people that like comics
>>156253352Some fag who was a killer in the previous century, then settled down, had a kid and became the most insufferable faggot to his neighborhood, the typical "Your grass is 1cm too long", as if being a murderer wasn't enough. In short, an even bigger loser than your average serial killer
>>156252827It's amazing how many killers get away with it (or almost get away with it) not because they're 5D chess masterminds who plan out every detail to make sure they can't get caught, but because the cops investigating them are lazy cunts or just plain incompetent.
>>156252708She'll be defeated in the year 1999.
>>156254042What's Rinny?
>>156252708So did she kill the entire town with her arson or just half of it? If anyone survived that she's going to be the most wanted person in the country,
>>156254671About half of the town from the look of things>>156254545Sometimes cops let it happen because they don't want to deal with prostitutes
>>156254671Half the town.And she destroyed all photos of how she looks.
>>156255521That's even more retarded
>protagonist is an unpleasant amoral murderer who targets innocent peopleI'd ask who the market for this shit is, but women are scarcely "human" as is.
>>1562545472004, actually.
>>156253120didnt he send a floppy disk with his fucking name as the one who wrote the file?
>>156252708>anthro setting in an inland town>still immediately jumps the shark
>>156256517Yeah, the sneak preview from the halloween special said 2004, it seems to be leaning into the post 9/11 surveilance state hysteria, actually a really interesting angle.
>>156256576Is that true? That's very funny. Guess he didn't know what metadata was, computers really did fuck it all up for serial killers.
>>156255521All photos? That's not true, clearly people know what she looks like.
>>156256659The surviving towns people know how she looks like, yes.But no photos exist to send across the nation on news sites or posters so people can “if you see this woman call the police immediately.”
>>156256710I just looked at the preview, her photo is on a book that was printed about her
>>156256646yeah im pretty sure thats how the BTK was caught
>>156256576>>156256646Yeah it's even stupider because he asked the FBI if they could lift anything off of it, they said "no" and he took them at their word. They then discovered the last person to access it was a "Dennis" from a nearby church. From there it was easy to figure out who he was.
>>156256843thats even more retarded than i thought.
>>156255615Serial killers have had a massive audience for decades
>>156256855It's easy to say that but I remember how difficult the transition to computers seemed to be to my own parents, boomers were absolutey curb stomped by this stuff.
>>156252827If this was taking place somewhere like south america or other 3rd world nations then she can do even worse and still face no retribution
>>15625282740 years ago? Possibly.
>>156253458Because the plot needed to happen. It would have made more sense if she came to town because they found part of her brother's body in the paint cans. Then Susan could have befriended her to try and stop her investigation instead of helping her for no reason.
>>156254545Keep in mind we've only had reliable internet for about 30ish years and DNA testing for 40.Part of the reason guys like The Night Stalker and The Hillside Strangler(s) went on so long was because, well, unless there was a surviving witness, it could really be anybody. So long as they didn't leave behind a personal item or did a rudimentary fingerprint/shoeprint wipe (it's actually kind of remarkable how many criminals were caught in part because they had rare shoes.) That's essentially what you have with Sam in a simpler time in a much simpler place. Imagine if some random town in the middle of Illinois two hours from Chicago had a killer. Would it be national news? Probably not until the whole place was lit on fire.
>>156252708What's curare?
>>156254545Usually it's because they never found the body or found it a while after death. It's very hard to prosecute someone if you don't know how they killed someone. Especially if it's a random person.
>>156254042It's amazing how fucking similar she is to Rinny even to how much bullshit they can do and get away with it, except that Sam is more dull and calculated on her methods while Rinny is like those "he dated a hello kitty girl" jokes and turned up to eleven
>>156252827Everything up to the shotgun trap. MAYBE the arson fire bombs since that'd be hard to prove you did it but not a half dozen shotguns popping out of the ceiling of your own hardware store and blasting the sheriff and deputy.
>>156257148It was in fact the Night Stalker who had bought new Avia sneakers and was somehow the only person in all of L.A. to have done so in his size. And then he went and left footprints all over his crime scenes, including on a victim's head.
>>156257049>It's easy to say that but I remember how difficult the transition to computers seemed to be to my own parents, boomers were absolutey curb stomped by this stuff.Yeah but they didn't ask the FBI if they could send stuff in their murder people persona and get away with it and then take the FBI at their word that it was totally fine. That's a different level of idiocy beyond not being able to operate a computer>>156257157A kinda paralyzing poison
>>156252827Her murders as originally presented? Probably. All the other bullshit? Probably not, her parents murder is especially egregious.
>>156252827part 1: sure. it takes place in the 80s and sam is much less retarded or arrogant than most serial killers which is the most important thing.part 2: lolno
>>156257103>looks it up>there are south american serial killers with body counts in the hundredsjesus
>>156252827Up until the point where she basically blew up an entire town in what would have been the largest terrorist attack in all of american history before 9/11
>>156257393Serial killers we know of*
>>156252708Genuine question, is there any way the next volume could unfuck itself, win back fans, and deliver a satisfying story? I know a lot of people (myself included) were pissed with how volume 2 turned out, especially in the second half.
>>156257442Oh heavens no, it's going to be an absolute clusterfuck.But it'll be an entertaining clusterfuck.
>>156257442I doubt it, Sam is a massive heel with no foil to bounce off of. And with the end of RoS it's pretty clear they're going all in on the 200 IQ super murderer angle, so there's really nothing to work with here. Sam can't lose but Sam isn't likeable enough to want her to win.
>>156257442Give us gilf bear sex and some people will be happy at least.
>>156257442>is there any way the next volume could unfuck itself, win back fans, and deliver a satisfying storylmao no, pandora's box was opened and there's no unfucking that can be done besides inventing a way to let people forget vol 2 and the DCKO nonsense.
>>156257442I can only assume some early internet sleuths figure out where she is, and because Sam has gotten so cocky, she leaves herself open to being outsmarted by them. It's very paint by numbers, but it would be satisfying to see her taken down all the same.One thing that kinda struck me about the series is how quickly people accept that Sam is what she is once they've been presented with the idea. There was a time when the idea of a woman being a killer, let alone a serial killer, was unheard of and dismissed. We see shades of that, but it's more Sam being well known and liked in the town and wouldn't do it rather than the idea that she couldn't.
>>156257442It's pretty obvious that Patrick didn't expect the first series to take off as much as it did. It's still a fun read but the sheer nosedive in narrative coherence from the first and second series is legendary.
>>156257668I feel like being a bear would make it seem a bit likely she'll kill
>>156257668>>156257717I was a about to say we really habe no idea what's going on biologically here. They obviously see species so this isn't an odd taxi situation but how much does it effect these people's lives? Is Sam meant to look like a normal middle aged woman or is she ment to be a physically imposing bear? Are predators more dangerous in this setting? Do people take someone's species into account when interacting with others? What are the rules here?
>>156257784Always pictured her like an Aileen Wuornos - kinda butch, not a petite dainty woman obviously, but not a hulking behemoth either. The kind of woman you wouldn't take on a date but you still think you could easily beat in a fight (until you can't).
>>156257442Sam's gonna go out on her own terms, there's no way this 5D chess asshole didn't already plan out her eventual suicide escape plan on the chance she finally gets caught
>>156258119she's got nukes planted around the country in case she's discovered. nevermind how.
Still mad at the ending of the second volume. Was this recent edition any good?
>>156256628She's gonna be a little old for serial killer labor by then
I didn't even know this had a second volume. I was already pretty miffed about how the first one went. There's absolutely no way she would have gotten away with it in the first book and you're telling me it gets even more retarded?
>>156257442Give her an L
>>156252708When is this going to get an animated adaptation?
>>156257442Have an internet schizo fuck her over by exploiting her cockiness while making fun of serial killer tropes and the whole idea of a Dexter-like character. I think it can work as a satisfying finale if Sam's 3000 IQ mega-killer shtick is countered by someone absolutely prepared for everything. It would be like a showdown of fucking wizards from that Sherlock Holmes show, but without magic.
>>156254545Not to sound like I'm defending dumb cops, but the overwhelming majority of murders are committed by people known to the victim. Even if you're murdered by a stranger during a robbery, it's likely to be a local criminal. Those are the kinds of cases police typically deal with. Serial killers are such an unusual outlier that their modus operandi often doesn't fit conventional policing methods. That's why the FBI had to get involved.
>>156259861Also in order to be a serial killer you need 2-3 successful kills on separate occasions without being caught which implies some level of skill and/or luck in not getting caught by local police. Feels like there's no middle ground for serial killers where they get caught after the first kill or rack up an impressive number over many years.
>>156256843He was even upset the FBI lied to him
>>156257442Keep escalating. i want her to go to space
>>156252827sure why not
>>156252827no, even at the time. she could have pulled it off until they nail it down to her. at that point there would be no where to hide, she'd be public enemy number 1 after the town bombing.nowadays, it's nearly impossible getting away with murder with how interconnected everyone is. at least in advanced societies
>>156259193>There's absolutely no way she would have gotten away with it in the first book and you're telling me it gets even more retarded?oh boy, you're in for a treat
>>156255521just be suspicious of all bears
>>156257442Did a new book drop that I missed?
I'm so sick of serial killer wank series, its lame as hell.
>>156261646Same. Series like Dexter and Hannibal have been a disaster because they mythologize these people as having some sort of darkness that we can't comprehend, when in reality, they were just sexually frustrated, abused men with poor impulse control. And it is mostly men. Female serial killers are usually co-dependent women involved in relationships with male serial killers. Even the supposed exception, Aileen Wuornos, probably shouldn't count as one, since she was a prostitutes who robbed and killed some of her clients, particularly those who got too handsy. The same goes for HH Holmes, who was essentially just a con man who robbed and murdered his tenants.
>>156261632This is from the Halloween special, which was actually pretty good. Anthology of kids telling creepy exaggerated/fictional horror stories about Sam, who has become a kind of boogeyman to the town.
>>156252708What does Sam even want anymore?
>>156262222I think she is just waiting for someone who can beat her in her own game.
>>156259885That's because the public's view of serial killers tends to be the ones who make good thriller villians. Meanwhile, there are probably people who are technically serial killers because they've randomly killed 3 people over the course of their lives without either meaning to or thinking nothing about it.Like, there's a non-zero chance that Missing 411 cases are actually "Innawoods guy killed a bunch of hikers because they were startled and paranoid". You hear stories like that all the time in places like the Ozarks and Appalachia. Hell, there's probably some angry drunk in a big city who's inadvertently killed a dozen people in a drunk rage, but no-one knows because they're all homeless or solitary nobodies.
>>156261730I suspect angel of mercy style poisonings might be really common, and dominance and sadism must still be in it for them, but it's more like spiteful witch karen energy than sexual.
>>156256710In the first story, pictures of her passed around to enough police departments that the cops in the big city she used for her kills had them. When we saw her in the Halloween special, she's only greyed a bit, so a photo from the 80s could still be used to ID her.
>>156255615>"Why True Crime Now?" asks the idiot who seems to have forgotten that true crime, horror, and murder mysteries have been popular in their current form since the Victorian Era.
Can they just call in L and catch this stupid sexy bear already?
>>156257442Optimistically?Summer and Fall is about her newfound pop culture status getting her caught by weirdo fans, with Winter being her wasting away in jail or laying cold in her grave after committing suicide.Pessimistically?Summer and Fall is about her training the girl from the Halloween special to also be a serial killer, then letting her take the fall for all the new murders; with Winter being the "hibernation" period serial killers have so she can find a new town, and start the cycle all over again.
>>156252827The first book absolutely American serial killers are spooky man. All that lead in the air,water&food made people plently insane.Tons of uncaught serial killers dozens and dozens victims bodies never foundThe second book thoLOLLMAO EVEN
>>156252827What was your point here, exactly?
>>156262342She's waiting for her L to give her an L.
>>156252708She beat Lex Luthor
>>156254545There are rare cases like Edmund Kemper who really was a 200 IQ chad who would probably never have gotten caught if he hadn't turned himself in.
>>156252827Yes, but she should've been caught. The SBI and above should've been called in after the cans being found. The dirt forensics should've made it clear it crossed county lines and justified a much higher law presence. Carol never being a suspect is some straight Light Yagami bullshit.
>>156263623In what where?
>>156265681DC K.O. Boss Battle.
>>156263623>>156265681>>156265737
>>156265787Huh. Lex was pretty pathetic
>>156261646I'd like for a Serial Killer series where the killer is rather pathetic and unlikable, only getting away with it because no one's noticed or no one has solid evidence against the obvious weirdo who'd totally do that kind of thingSam is too much of a robot who tries to act human to not have given a few neighbors the "ick" a few times
