Name writers who have done irreversible damage to the comic industry
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>>156267731Literally came in here to post exactly this.In fact, I can't think of a better example. The sheer scale of the destruction that Bendis has wrought, across BOTH of the Big Two, is breathtaking.
>>156267694Tom KingTom Taylor
>>156267694Along with Axel Alonso
>>156267870>Tom KingHe's going back to Marvel so hold on to your butt.>>156267911Nah, this paddy is based.
>>156267955Ennis sucks dick and always inserts faggotry and radical leftism into everything he makes. He's the reason why troons think they've got any right writing for americuck comics.Also all of his books are the same vapid "humanity sucks" hypergore slop. He's even more of a one trick pony than James "Pedo" Gunn is.
>>156268337>critslop-level complaintsOk
>>156267694Dan Slott has singlehandedly killed my love for comics.
>>156268337Ennis' Punisher is peak.
>>156268337Truth nuke >>156268417I prefer mainline Frank but credit where credit is due. Max is pretty awesome
not a writer but Mark Doyle
>>156268337>He's even more of a one trick pony than James "Pedo" Gunn is.Hey Garth does more than just ripoff Farscape & shove in boomer rock montages.
>>156267694>>156267731Bendis.
>>156268379Because Ennis' shit only goes that far. It's for narrow-minded retards.>>156268417This is based but Max is still mostly all retarded and has Punisher acting radically over the top to fixate Ennis' edge-goonery.>>156268450>Truth nukeRespect>>156268510Yeah he uh.........makes the same book over and over with a different paint job. Brilliant.
>>156268557That's not Bendis that's Joe Wopsada though both are retardedFuck him for tearing Spider-Man and MJ apart.
>>156268684He was smart and quite the talented writer and character visionary pre the allegations he made Buffy which is killer and his X-Men run is pretty substantial Outside of that he doesn't understand Punisher and he also potentially rapes women as well.
>>156268639It's you're fault for taking Ennis seriously in the first place.
>>156268417>>156268639>>156268706The only competent writer who understood the Punisher is Chuck Dixon.
>>156268714I know I knowHe's supposed to be shit right?
>>156268706I once saw a writer blame his X-Men run for decompression and popularizing comics aspiring to be "blockbuster cinema" instead of comics
>>156268822What's wrong with elevating the status? Isn't that what capecucks want is to be more recognized in the mainstream sphere?
>>156268839Capecucks are the ones who demand comics be more like movies like yourself
>>156268839>elevating the statusIt's been argued recently here but while going after the blockbuster film vibes did help Marvel and DC survive the 2000's, them prioritizing it over stylization and compressed storytelling bit them in the ass in the long run
>>156268872Yeah so Wheadon didn't do anything wrong.
>>156268886American stylized comics probably should've died after the 90s but Marvel and DC doing what they did helped to inspire more stories for the comics based off of feedback and resonance from certain movies like giving stronger establishing to more movie centric characters like Winter Soldier and the Guardians so I don't really see the issue.
>>156268889Whedon popularized "Whedonspeak" and characters acting like two dimensional quippy manchildren obsessed with melodrama.
>>156268557Quesada is genuinely not as bad as BendisHe's done some heinous shit for sure, but if he's a storm, Bendis is like 20 tornadoes hitting both DC and Marvel
>>156268943People took whedonspeak and mutated it into bathos.
>>156268839>What's wrong with elevating the status?Because they aren't actually elevating the status. Movies are movies, comics are comics, trying to make comics into movies just makes comics boring as all hellBritish writers already elevated capeshit comics in the 80s anyway, there is no need to try and make them into what they aren't
>>156268782I still love his War Zone run with JRJr doing some of the best art of his career. I'd like Dixon more if he didn't just use social media to complain.God, the early 90's fucking rocked.
>>156268943But he also built strong emotional direction and character like the scene from Avengers 1 where Cap is able to prove himself to the cops who initially don't take him too seriously or Xander saving Willow by reaching out to her so I really don't see the issue here outside of maybe some quirks he had going a little overboard.>>156268949Quesada made One More Day. The only thing Bendis made anywhere near the same level of damage as that is making Peter Darker.
>>156269015>I'd like Dixon more if he didn't just use social media to complain.Happens when pinkos blacklist you from the industry.
>>156269015Yes Dixon is based and is the only one who understands Punisher in depth.
>>156268923>American stylized comics probably should've diedEven disregarding works like Scott Pilgrim, stylization flourished heavily Just not necessarily in the direct market and more in other avenues like the traditional book market and especially online with webcomicsThere's a reoccurring point of discourse regarding a certain subsection of cape fans being allergic to stylization and while it can be argued it's a matter of continuity (i.e. your expectations for how these characters look should be consistent and thus deviations break the "immersion") there's a reason why an artist like Humberto Ramos' old artstyle is being celebrated more now than it was back then and why house style is mostly kaput
>>156269031>Quesada made One More Day. The only thing Bendis made anywhere near the same level of damage as that is making Peter Darker.How are you forgetting Disassembled? Scarlet Witch has never recovered from it. The Avengers, as a team, have never recovered from it. It's been MORE THAN TWENTY YEARS and the Avengers have still never recovered from it.
>>156269066We're still feeling the effects of Disassembled to this day.
>>156269040Yes and retroactively rape your character in front of your very eyes.
>>156269031Yeah, OMD hit the biggest character in the planet hard. But it's one(1) character. 2 if you count MJBendis wreaked havoc on both of the big 2, there's simply no comparison. What he did to Jon is absolutely insane, he turned Jean into a complete psychopath, made Bobby(a character who would work as a bissexual considering his history) gay out of nowhere, while simultaneously writing Jean as a complete asshole for outing him at minimum, and a complete fucking psychopath at worse, even worse than she'd already been written in times past. I mean, look at his Young Justice books, the man is absolutely insane. And while I like Miles(because of the first animated movie), he's the one responsible for the retarded characterization the character has had since his inceptionThere's no comparison, Bendis is a writer who's known for shitting on continuity even if it fucks over multiple other writers
>>156269104>>156269066also YEAH FUCKING DISASSEMBLED DUDEWHAT HE DID TO SENTRY TOOFUCK BENDIS DUDE, FUCK THAT BALD FUCK
>>156269052I'm not talking about designs as much as the live action adaptations and the comics influencing one another narrative and characteristic wise. The designs are ultimately ancillary.
Bendis for creating Miles MoralesKelly Sue DeConnick for ruining Carol DanversSana Amanat for creating Kamala Khan
>>156269129>Bendis for creating Miles MoralesThis isn't as big a problem as you think. If Miles had stayed a character in the Ultimate Universe where he had an actual purpose, it wouldn't be an issue. Blame Marvel for being faggots and moving him into 616 after the Ultimate line imploded, not Bendis.
>>156269104Liking a character doesn't make him not shitBendis made him and that was probably his worst decision ever since all it did was politicize the fuck out of the Spider-Man mythos in a way it never needed to be.Also Jean and Wanda were always kinda unhinged and inherently non-heroic but I do blame him some for overexaggerating their selfishness.Still think OMD did way more damage than most of Bendis' cataloge just because of how big Spider-Man is and how integral Mary Jane is to him. Also fuck the Raimi movies for swapping her personality with classic Gwen too.
>>156269129>>156269163Literally the entire concept of the character of Miles is to feed off of all of Spider-Man's/Peter Parker's leftovers, even as far back in Ultimates all those years ago. One day, they had the retarded idea to kill Ultimate Peter Parker, the lead of the last remaining Ultimates title that still sold fairly well.And they do it with the dumbest writer ever Bendis who just chickens out of expanding anything new with classic Ultimate Peter or giving him a happy ending (I know it came later but he had to die first for Peter Darker to be shit out by Bendis), and the worst artists they can find.But because they aren't going to cancel Ultimate Spider-Man, they fucking invent basically Black Peter Parker to be a diversity hire to ride out the rest Ultimates life span.He literally exists solely to deal with Peter's leftover plot points. That's his only function from the start. I think people forget how quickly Ultimates went 100% retarded after Ultimatum and how woke it got, especially under Bendis' tenure, and just how retarded that was. Frankly, I don't think ANY of those characters should have been saved when the universe was initially destroyed, least of all Peter Darker. But we all know how Marvel can't resist keeping any unique characters from side-universes or timelines, no matter how retarded that is (See also: Cable and X-Man technically being the same person from different timelines.)So now we have Spider-Man and his reskinned copycat both in 616, and it's completely convoluted, especially since nobody's been really using the Scarlet Spider name in any serious capacity for decades, and that the name exists for the Heir Apparent Spider-Man.Okay, sure, Ben Reilly has been back for a few years... but less said about how dirty Marvel have been treating HIM the better. Kaine is just secondary and all but forgotten sadly by now. Least Miguel had the purpose of being a Spider-Man from another separate universe that doesn't interfere with 616.
>>156269263>TL;DR Fuck Bendis for making this retarded nog rehash, just another piece of poo on the shitpile he made at Marvel
>>156268797Comics *are* mythology for the village idiot.
>>156269263>I think people forget how quickly Ultimates went 100% retarded after UltimatumIt was a dead line walking after Ultimatum, it was clear things were over once it got announced. Shit like this is just part of the pattern of the mainline Marvel editors throwing a shitfit when an alt. Universe series sells better than the mainline, and then the EiC is always more than happy to placate editorial rather than using it to pish them to do better. They did it with the original Ultimate universe, they did it with the new Ultimate universe, and they'll continue to keep doing it because Marvel is run by a bunch of spineless bitches who are obsessed with their childhood headcanon.
>>156269314Capeshit has always been retarded and needlessly zionist.
>>156269326>they'll continue to keep doing it because Marvel is run by a bunch of spineless bitches who are obsessed with their childhood headcanon.All of capeshit in general.
>>156269263It sucks that Peter can never have anything to himself every again. We have to speedrun to this coon in every adaption from now on.
>>156267911He's great.>>156268417Best Punisher writer.>>156268782Second best Punisher writer.
>>156269124Oh yeah cause people sure love most MCU designs amirite
>>156269342>Gubment mandates that minorities be represented on comicfag teams>minorities>when Quicksilver and SW the Slavics are right there>Black Widow and Wasp the Redheads are right thereFuck capeshit and fuck the money grabbing jews who made it.
>>156269386Ennis is a one-trick retard and sucks commie dick see >>156268337He's done as much damage as Bendis, their names even sound alike lol probably twins switched at birth.
>>156269372All the more reason why capeshit sucks. The forced identity politics over compelling storytelling.
>>156269406Designs have nothing to do with writing.
>>156269426Ennis is better than your favorite comic writers.
>>156267694Isn't Moronson the same queer who gave us this faggot slop?
>>156267694Jeph Loeb MURDERED Ultimate Marvel and I'm sure that hurt the company in the long run.
>>156269477Better at being a one-dimensional edge lord and sucking ass at everything else yes.
>>156269523Better at writing well too.
>>156268706What exactly did he get cancelled for? I don’t believe it was for an actual crime, didn’t he just cheat on his wife and be a hardass to people who worked for him?
>>156269535Writing himself into a well of piss yes. Ennis sucks and all his books are the same surface level shock value slop. You haven't given one argument to the contrary btw.
>>156269342>>156269413>Ignore that the government guy is an antagonist, guys!!Media Illiteracy
>>156269413I love jlongbone
>>156269550Yeah I think he slept with some other chick concensually and the me-too faggots used that as an excuse to jump the gun on him.
>>156269604Still a retarded and childish plotline>>156269605Same
>>156269560You haven't provided any real argument either. Just empty gripes any non-reader comes up with when glancing at a page of The Boys.
>>156269342>>156269413Are you 2 not aware that the story isn't takeing Gyrich's side? Also Sam turns down rather offer because he doesn't want to be a dei hire.
Tom King has probably done the most damage in the shortest amount of time.
>>156269637Ah, so it was non-criminal. Not that you should cheat on your wife, but a dumb reason to cancel somebody.Also, I hate to say it but those pink guns look kind of cool.
>>156269649Because everyone already knows how retarded, creatively depleted, simplistic, and predictable Edgenis is anon, including many people on here. The fact that he very much likes Eric Kripke as a creative tells you all you need to know. Fun fact, Ennis's latest project is one that celebrates the Soviet Union. Shocking. Nobody could have seen that coming. :/
>>156269550He was an aggressive feminist and called out "the patriarchy" only to get caught cheating on his wife, several times over with multiple women.
>>156269657See >>156269648
>>156268685Joe is cuban
>>156269701Yeah he didn't do anything wrong legally albeit only morally and most women and even men loved his work beforehand tbf, especially Buffy.
>>156269713You know nothing, onions
>>156269725Tomato Tomato
>>156269734I know capeshit is for retards with too much time on their handsAlso chopped up onions in chicken and noodle brew are tasty yes
>>156269750Go back, crybaby
>>156269706Someone already filled me in, but thanks. I wonder if the people who cancelled him know that’s basically the default, albeit wrong, behavior in show business.
>>156269763Wresting is for total faggots like comics are, baby.
>>156269782You are that, stop being weak
