https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_yocC5AIQ5MI miss sonic x voice actors
>>156276419Non-Fat Deku
>>156276419> Episode 1Nah, this is the full thingThankfully they decided not to cut up and stretch out this Steven Universe-tier slop
>>156276419>No Metal Sonic themeWe were so CLOSE
>>156276419It was cool outside of Sonic being so sentimental; that just doesn't feel right.
I don't know why Metal gave Tails a thumbs up.
Does SEGA have some new Mandate that Tails isn’t allowed to fight?It’s lame seeing him just sit around with the IPad again. Why do they keep on doing this after Forces?
>>156276916Gotta sell the newest Nintendo consoles.
>>156276810Because the eggman family respects tails
Geez Metal you didn't need to flex on them THAT hard
>>156276977What is this over animated garbage
>>156276954If Nintendo made a console that looks like this thing maybe they’d finally lose to SEGA
A little too much VFX, it covered a lot of shots and made it hard to see what was going on.
>>156276810>>156276976His eyes were Green. He was still possessed by Sonic.
Yeah he knows its Year of Metal and loving it
>>156277018No it was after they turned red at the end
>Story by Izuka>Written by Ian FlynnWho are we blaming for this one
>>156277073It wasn’t. He thumbs up with the green eyes. Then they turn Red and he dies
>>156276419Based on the reactions I've seen to the voices... I think I'm going to wait for the Japanese version.
>>156277083Ian, obviously. Izuka probably sketched some main things to happen. That last scene screams Flynn.
>>156277083Story and Writer can have different responsibilities depending on the project. Sometimes “story by” can mean they just give you a sticky note description and tellnyou to do that
>>156277106I'm surprised they didn't replace "love" with "friendship" in this version.
>>156276419at least no tarot cards for amy
>>156277083Ian, the story is just an outline
>>156277083Hard to say. Strictly speaking, the story, on paper, is functional, and shit, it's even a nice callback to the Sonic OVA.But, as the other anons have said, we don't know how much thought Iizuka put into it: whether he provided a complete story or just a basic outline for Ian to write the dialogue for.Given the way things are currently being handled on the Sonic front, I'd say the latter is more likely. Iizuka probably only provided the basic storyline, while Ian was the one who wrote the actual progression, selected the memories, and wrote the dialogue.
>fans keep asking for a show that looks like thisThe animation is good because it's a short; SEGA is not gonna make a serious investment in a full show that looks like that the whole way through. Especially when cheap 3D shows on Netflix give them the viewership they want with less investment.
>>156277246Make another OVA movie then
>>156277314That I could see as being more plausible.
>>156276419He’s happy
>>156276419I love how Rouge had to pull some nonsense out of her ass to find something nice to say about Sonic. She barely ever interacts with him at all.
>>156277376And yet they still forced her into Sonic’s “tell me how great i am” circle, lol. What did she say, “you’re as precious as they come”?? What? Well tbf Knuckles’ compliments also sound cringe “Nonody’s like YOU!!” Ok homoGoes to show you how forced it is putting her on “Team Sonic”
>>156277345What a chad!
>>156276419>>156277376This short only makes me feel that the whole "Rouge is one of Sonic's pals" angle is even more forced than I thought. The closest thing to a meaningful interaction the two have had in 25 years is the ending of SA2, where Rouge essentially served as Shadow's proxy in bringing his and Sonic's shared storyline to a close (much like the final exchanges between Tails and Eggman, and Knuckles and Rouge, in that same ending).Now, however, for the sake of making the memory work "better" within the context of the short, Iizuka and/or Flynn retconned that scene into making Rouge literally Chris in X's SA2 adaptation, with her mourning Shadow and Sonic feeling compelled to console her, instead of the two having a somber exchange reflecting on who Shadow was and what his sacrifice meant.It's a pity, because I genuinely think Sonic and Rouge could have fun and even meaningful interactions if the latter weren't constantly relegated to playing second banana to Shadow.
>>156277376>>156277421>they turned Rouge into ChrisFuck, as if losing her tits wasn't enough already
>>156277393Rouge can have a fun dynamic with just about any characters due to being the resident shady bitch of the cast. We really need more stories that have her just hanging out with people other than Shadow and Omega. >>156277401>“you’re as precious as they come”Yeah, while a lot of the whining about the writing is just more obsession over Flynn, I didn't like that line. Girl, what does that mean?! Are you planning to steal him? The hell.
>>156277376I found it funny how her contribution was more Shadow focused and her feeling more for him than Sonic in that
>>156277376>>156277421Unironically, I can see Shadow as more of a friend to Sonic than Rouge. The only thing keeping them as "rivals" is Shadow being too stubborn to ever admit he likes him and assist his parties, but they've teamed up and done more together than Rouge has with him.
>>156277439He gave her Shadow’s cock cage and that makes him like a precious gem or something o algo
>>156277376>>156277421At this point if they really want another female cast member that's purple to show up, they should just use Blaze.We're long past the point where the writers of the games/comics even try justify her leaving the Sol Dimension, and it's not like the characters having outside lives really matters too much if they're going to have Rouge.The main reason I can see them using her, aside from evening out the gender split, is that her being a treasure hunter gives the group a potential stealth character, but they never use that unless the comics just need to asspull her being somewhere plot-convenient.
>>156276916I said the inventor thing should have gone to Rotor or some Sonic Team equivalent character, it's done Tails no favors to be Sonic's tech support.
They added Rouge to Sonic's team because she's popular online and it's an easier female member to add to the team. And before you go>muh wokeknow that companies have been doing this for a while. See the Power Rangers and Sentai; multi-gender groups of heroes are more marketable. But at the same time, it's Sega's mandate that "Team Shadow doesn't exist because Shadow has no friends" so Rouge has to go with Sonic since she's legally not allowed to hang out with Shadow on the regular. The real victim is Omega, who's got nothing but racing in his life.
>>156276419Sonic the Shonengehog
>>156277450Why unironically, the series constantly says that.Like that Sonic Channel Calendar story with them two, they have a whole chapter just about the narrator saying “Sonic is Shadow’s only true friend. Sonic is Shadow’s only true equal. Noone can understand Shadow except Sonic. They are like the Wind and the Shadow. Shadow only respects Sonic. Shadow and Sonic are not Gay because they’re more connected than a mere Gay couple can be.”
>>156277471>add rouge>remove everything that makes rogue greatYeah okay Sega
>>156277401>>156277439Rouge’s whole thing is jewels and Shadow. And she knows shadow is too much of an anti-social loser to properly interact with Sonic.
>>156277421>instead of the two having a somber exchange reflecting on who Shadow was and what his sacrifice meant.It's fascinating just how Mandela-effected that ending involving Rouge has become. Rouge never shed a tear for Shadow, never held the ring while talking to Knuckles, and the whole "something more valuable than jewels" line has been grossly mischaracterized as a result.In retrospect, Sonic giving the limiter to Eggman and having that talk with him would have made more sense, considering how Shadow was brought back.
>>156277461> The main reason I can see them using her, aside from evening out the gender split, No. She’s here so Shadow can always be shoved into the space whenever they want.
>>156277461They should use Cream to reunite the Sonic Advance 3 cast
https://x.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/2120924597193175388?a=LAiSXqlhr3iUG0EGe3Q&s=46
>>156277528It has nothing to do with adventure 2. It has everything to do with heroes.
Glad they gave Shadow some depth here, and not make him just a total self centered edgelord
>>156277528Anon, at this point in your life, are you honestly surprised that Ian Flynn used the Sonic fandom's misreading of a scene in his writing?
>>156277504This. What the hell. The reason she's fun is because she's a morally grey anti hero. A greedy, selfish thief with a hidden heart of gold. She's Fujiko Mine but a bat. Stop fucking sanitizing her. I hate Prime so fucking much.
>>156277617>She's Fujiko Mine but a batTHANK YOU!
>>156277463Tails became irrelevant with Jumbi fitting the role of side-liner, flyer and Sonic's bf. Rotor himself is too occupied by Torot to do any inventing for the team. Its best to let Tails do the inventing.
>>156277617>The reason she's fun is because she's a morally grey anti herowouldn't work in Prime because it's a story about saving the universe.
>>156277617GOD ROUGE IS SO HOT I WANT HER TO KISS ME ALL OVER AUHGGGHH~
>>156277617IDW has done more of that for her than Prime
>>156277528It goes to show just how little importance Rouge and Shadow's relationship held in the plot back in the early 2000s, to the point where her entire role in that ending could easily have been handed over to Chris without either character suffering any lasting consequences.
>>156277732Boobs shrank in the wash
>>156277701She's consistently great in IDW. >>156277669The universe is where she keeps all her stuff. Of course she wants to preserve it. Plus, again, she does actually have a sense of morality, she just doesn't show it much.
>knuxfags still mad about the ring in SA2It's sad the only claim of relevance Knuckles has now is his own dubious shit that lasted one game, and they are even losing that to Shadow as well
>>156277541They absolutely do not need Rouge to use Shadow. They way they want to write Shadow as being a loner goes against that, and you can justify Shadow in almost any Sonic story if you give him some self-serving motivation, even if it's just "I want to upstage Sonic.">>156277546Cream's main problem is that she's basically just Tails. She's an orange-based kid character with flight that's the sidekick of a main hedgehog. The difference is that instead of being smart she's polite and instead of pulling tech out of her ass she has Cheese do everything. It's a weird middle ground where she's passable from a gameplay perspective and she worlds very well in slower stories, but for an action narratve she's just a proxy so other characters can fight.
>>156277791She is used to bridge Shadow with the other cast and Sonic events outside of competition, like the racing game, and in Shadow Generations, where she is nagging him to go to the party
>>156277727She’s actually in the third Sonic Movie. At least hinted to be that “human” woman that goes by ROCKwell. So even Sega is aware that Rouge in Adventure 2 is more relevant as a Gun agent than she was as an ally of Eggman and Shadow.
>>156277814>and in Shadow GenerationsShadow Generations is just a retcon of Sonic Generations, though, so that proves my point. Shadow was there originally with no deeper meaning in mind besides "it's my not!friend's party." Tying it back to my original point Blaze was at that same party without needing a justification deeper than that, so clearly there's not much more thought needed than that.Rouge's main contribution in ShadGen is giving an audience perspective on showing the emerald swap, which doesn't really make a whole lot of sense in itself.If she were a bridge, we'd probably see her hanging out with the cast more regularly and have someone else that she more consistently talks to. They set up that dynamic with Knuckles but never did anything with it. She bounces off of Amy but they don't even know what they're trying to do with her in the first place. She doesn't care to hang out with Sonic outside of this cartoon-centric push because he's a broke drifter.For fuck's sake, a lot of her chapter in Battle is just her hanging out in a nightclub away from everyone, doing some boring-ass training at almost the game's halfway point.
>>156276916Tails was literally the only reason they won. He even got some action in by planting the bug on Metal.
>>156276419Sonic the Hedgehog 2 is the first video game I ever played that or Duck Hunt. I was 2, don't get mad that I can't remember specifically.I can't believe there was a moment where Sonic would be considered a Dead IP. I'm glad that isn't the case. The silly cartoon hedgehog means a lot to me
>>156276419Fighting was coolDialogue was lame and gay
>>156278137Putting a bug on the back of Metal’s head while Shadow and Knuckles are the ones who fight him isn’t action. Tails got no Action, everyone else did.It’s a world of difference to say “Tails’ Shitty Ipad let them all tell Sonic how great he is” vs “Tails got to have a Cool Action Scene like the others get, for the first time since Sonic Adventure”. The former is just a plot device, the latter is action.I’d rather Tails get to be cool and fight and show how strong he is, then lose, than be portrayed as Weak and cower behind an Ipad that lets Sonic win with the power of compliments.
>>156276419>we want the shonen audience
Does Ian Flynn still do those cringy podcasts? Someone ask him if Sega said Tails isn’t allowed to hit anyone from now on.
>>156278281>This series that started in Japan and caters primarily to a male demographic is shonen!No shit?
>>156278316Sonic is considered Kodomo in Japan. Its most recent ongoing manga releases in a Kodomo magazine, and so did all its old ones, and Sonic X was put on a Kodomo timeslot.
>>156278336The fuck is kodomo?
