Breaking Glass EditionPrevious: >>156277105Confused about the Lute!Eve thing? Start here: https://x.com/lutesaurus/status/2097058277192528194Let's try to keep the thread from dying after less than six hours this time, okay?
>Dead threads, dead series? Welp! It was good while it lasted CHUMPS!!
>>156282637This is what happens when we banish all the schizos like Bugcuck, Jake, and DUA to /trash/. We need the insane people to keep the thread constantly bumped.
>>156282714What we need is some fucking S3 content. No one gives a shit about the gay bird spin-off show. Just give us a release date or fucking something.We can only talk about Lute and Adam for so long.
>>156282833Seriously, we had a full S2E2 leak by this point last time
>>156282614Reminder he was right
>>156283200My fuarking hero!
Look, she's smiling!
Ok
>>156282614>hyped up with the best song of the season>isn't allowed to do anything elsefucking SQUANDERED
>>156284448She's gonna do some stuff then get the "talk no justu" from Charlie and then she will become chill.
what is she look at
>>156284633Starving lower class hellborn.
TONIGHT, on “Days Of Our Fujos” (on /trash/)!Charlotte deals with the shock of finding out Lucifer loves Adam. And I explain the dreaded Department Of Crimes Against Heaven. All this and more, on “Days Of Our Fujos”!
>>156283188We had it so fucking good.
>>156284448She hasn't even had her plot twist yet. Patience!
Viv...
>>156282614This show is highly satanic because it has DEMONS and HOMERSEXUALS
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>>156284844This honestly supports the idea that wifeswap was a real thing that got scrapped
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>>156284633the game
>>156284848As a hardcore Lue Eve enthusiast. I do think wife swap is real, it's just people conflated Roo and Eve. And that's the detail that people are ignoring. She's not Eve. The doppelganger was never Eve pretending to be Lilith. It was the Evil Goddess/Roo. Eve is completely independent of that. She's Lute.At best, I could believe that maybe that was the very first idea Viv had, but then she thought hey wait a minute. Let me just make the doppelganger Roo instead. But that's like..... Grasping at straws scenario. Roo Is a character that has always been conceptualized before even the pilot, I believe, so she was always the Evil Goddess. She's always been a shape-shifting manipulator. It's always been Roo that was the doppelganger. Not Eve.
>>156284872Eve has her own evil schizo plans, it's just if you ask her why she impersonated Lilith she'll say 'huh?' and then stab you.
>>156284872It also works. Roo and Lilith is an imposter who's impersonating situation. Creepy in concept but also with an element of trickery and mischief. Very fitting for an evil shapeshifting goddess (which reminds me of Eris from Sinbad). Lute is just Eve who's hidden her identity. She's not really impersonating anybody else. She just smeared some paint on herself so she doesn't have to deal with the Eve baggage.
Radioapple schizos once again proving they are our strongest ally.
>>156284945It would probably piss her off hard. She might interpret it as you calling her a Lilith rip off. An aspect she's probably insecure about.
>>156284975Once they start putting the puzzle pieces together we can join forces to shit on Lilith as one united effort. It will be glorious.
>>156284979I wonder if Eve looks so sad in the storybook because she just discovered Lilith exists and she's wife #2?
AO3 being down the day AkumaKami would release a new chapter of his GuitarPrincess fic . It makes me want to write racial slurs in blue boards.
>>156284962>Viv on Roo: "She's an entity, and I wanted to have fun with the concept of an entity that doesn't really have one identity and is having to manipulate and mask and go around and operate in its own unique way. So I'm really excited for people to see the characterization of her, but obviously I cannot give away what she is, what she secretly— any of those lore— those theories. I think those are great. I didn't realize that revealing the eyes thing, so I apologize, but at the same time I was like, "I think it's kind of obvious?" and we've dropped a lot of hints to her, so I had this post where I was like, "Yeah, there's all this stuff that's been setting her up, so I don't know why she's shocking to exist," but I think it's just going to be fun to have her in the show once she makes her appearance.">Viv on Lucifer: "I think deep down Lucifer probably has a lot of, um, because you know, he’s a character that’s very prideful. Obviously, he’s the sin of pride. So I think, deep down, when things like that happen that are kind of, like, hard for him to— Like, when he gets beaten down or one-upped or used in a machine like that, he really does just kind of bury it and just go, “Yeah, who are you again?” Like, I think if he met Vox again in the immediate aftermath of that scene, he’d be like, “Who are you?” He really wouldn’t remember [laughing] because he’s just so, you know… putting it away."Basically>Roo is a shapeshifter, potentially operating under the identity of "Lillith," having either replaced Charlie's mother at some point or been Charlie's mother all along.>Lucifer tends to bury uncomfortable or traumatic experiences and may genuinely forget people associated with them, making it plausible that he could overlook or suppress the truth about an Evil Goddess impersonating his wife.
>>156285044Which one is this, the one where he's crawling in his skin?
>>156285056Rosie LilithRoo/Evil "Lillith" with two "l's"Lute Eve
>>156282833This is so funny even the Adam and Lute autists are running out of ideas/getting sick of talking about the same thing over and over.
>>156285106Helluva Boss was a mistake.
>>156285013That would make a lot of sense. Also piss of Morningstar glazers.
>>156285106We just need confirmation of Lute being Eve. It's the ONE thing we are not getting.
>>156285097>>156285056I'm fine with this, I've just always been confused on the timeline. There's no way Lilith and Rosie swapped recently. They must have switched EARLY on, way before Charlie. Aside from that, what was Rosie (Lilith) using Alastor for? They were looking for something, right?
>>156285153* Lilith and Roo
>>156285044>It makes me want to write racial slurs in blue boards.If you do that I'll rape you.
>>156285056Wow, Lu is an actual retard. I guess it run in the family.
>>156285168Why is it always with the rape?
>>156285179He was very obviously supposed to be kind of a retard. I'm pretty sure him and the Eden humans will be looking like a bunch of retards by the end of the story.
>>156285179He's always been one? Viv has said he was always meant to be like this. ""Evil scary Pilot Lucifer"" was never real: that was shit stupid ass fans made up.
>>156285245"Evil pilot Lucifer" was actually an inuniverse fabrication made to scare sinners. That's just the fake hype that got spread so Lucifer wouldn't get raped by sinners.
>>156285353Not wrong actually. But what I'm saying is that the fandom unironically thought that was his genuine character. That was always meant to be a front.
>>156285066No it's the one that's actually quite wholesome.
>>156285425The one where Lute is his pseudo adopted daughter because they can't figure out what to do with her? Lame abd unoriginal.
>>156285408Exactly. It's kinda funny since it implies the fandom is as dumb as the sinner masses.
Vaggi is sexual
>>156285471Listen. Doing something with Lute is kinda hard unless you know she's Eve. I remember recently seeing someone do some AU swap art where Abel had Charlie's role. Lute/Eve was swapped with Lucifer because the guy subscribed to Lute is Eve. It's easier to use Lute if you know what her deal is.
>>156285533Vaggie is the Loona of the HH waifu community.
>>156285471Nah it's the soulmark one.
>>156285168You can't rape a Ugly Bastard anon.
>>156285609Yes you can. It's called the "reverse Ugly bastard". It's when a beautiful woman sexually harasses and mindbreaks a fat ugly guy with her monstrous pussy.
>>156285621This is what Emily does to Abel.
>>156285621>Implying the ugly bastard doesn't just summon his army of goblins to help him out.
>>156285654Abel's fat but I wouldn't call him ugly. He seems more baby faced but some people dig that. I'd say his worst trait is probably his personality.
>>156285660>The Goblins that are all summoned are female so he gets gangbanged mindbroken.
>>156285670>FemaleNah.
>>156285684The female goblins will rape you next.
>>156284841What are you, gay?
>>156285686They can try but my virginity shield, aka Chud Status aka being a Spy main, shall repel them instantly.
>>156285693Spy canonically fucked Scout's Mom and got her pregnant. You poser.
>>156285700What part of Spy *main* do you not understand?
Opinions on Hazbin Hotel General samefaggotry?
>>156285703Honestly if we're just going for spy main it's either lolicon or furry.
>>156285706What?
>>156285706Examples?
>>156285179>Hot retard wife.>Hot retard husband.>Hot retard daughter.How Hell even runs smoothly is amazing
>"It's when [Charlie] says it seems [Alastor's] found something else to entertain him here. What what is entertaining him? The shot immediately cuts to Lucifer, so I have to imagine it's something in that department." Amir says: "Or that's a red herring."They are queerbaiting hard. I don't think RA will be canon.
>>156285726Hell is a dystopia if not for the Sinners it's for the Hellborn. You're in seemingly the most crime-ridden place in existence were most if not all the persons making up the realm committed some sort of crime. There is also power struggles between Overlords and wannabe Overlords in the Pride ring.
>>156285749That also begs this question. What exactly prevents Sinners from traversing to the other rings - is it some magical barrier, do the elevators shoot on sight with as of yet unseen weaponry, can a Sinner be given a temporary pass into the lower rings? These are questions I always wanted to know.
>>156285668Does Adam count as ugly bastard? I think he can count in the context of Charlie and especially Vaggie but doesn't count in the context of Lute.
>>156285711No, that would be pyro or engineer mains.
Picrel caused me to have a bit of a revelation, namely>Lilith absconded to Heaven seven years (plus some change) prior to the setting's present>Vaggie was abandoned in Hell on the fourth annual extermination, three years prior to the present>therefore there was a period of three to four years where they were both in HeavenThat just raises the question of>How much does Vaggie know about what's going on with Lilith?She's obviously pretty switched on, and if Adam is telling the truth about her and how Lute feels about her are true, them she was pretty high up in the Exorcist army, so does she know anything about what's going on with Lilith?
>>156285759I wouldn't count him. He's decent looking enough and much like Abel just being fat doesn't qualify you. You have to keep in mind that the Ugly bastard specifications start from the top to the bottom for that specific universe. We have weirder and uglier sinners which absolutely steal the ugly bastards spots. They also raise the standard to a more competitive one.
>>156285763Adam was talking about her kill count not her position. The Exorcists are mainly foot soldiers who don't know sensitive information with the exception of Lute (who might be Eve and basically their true boss). Much of the Angelic council didn't know about Lilith (Sera and Lute are the only two who seem to know for sure). Vaggie wouldn't know shit about Lilith or her whereabouts. People already explained that to you last time. This idea of yours doesn't fucking work.
>>156285784There's a lot of AI generated slop porn of monstrous ugly Adam raping Charlie and Lilith.
>>156285803I wasn't aware of that and didn't want to know that. Also. Lilith? Wtf?
>>156285812Because obviously he raped and abused poor defenceless Lilith back in Eden. Obviously.
>>156285801I grant you that Vaggie could be completely oblivious to anything to do with Lilith when it comes to her time within the Exorcists, and from her perspective her knowledge of Lilith begins and ends with what Charlie has told her. With that said, I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if she puts things together when it's revealed that Lilith's in Heaven. At the very least it should shed some light on what Vaggie's time in the Exorcists was like before being abandoned in Hell, since the implication shown in Scream Rain is that it was surprisingly rough for something based in Heaven.
Do you think Viv permanently killing off Vaggie to make Charlie crash out is a good writing decision?
>>156285860Would this be before or after we find out about Vaggie's backstory?
>>156285860No, and she's not going to do that.
Vaggie is a human soul turned angel and mindwiped to believe she isn't. Nothing can tell me otherwise.
>>156285907I think it would be wiser for that to happen after Vaggi's backstory has been laid out.
>>156285950Vaggie is actually Eve and Lute is her clone that everybody got baited into latching onto. Nothing can tell me otherwise.
Do you think the reason why Adam didn't notice Lute was Eve was because he's not the sharpest tool in the shed.
>>156285981That means Charlie's been fucking her own mother?
>>156285990Probably gonna be used as the explanation.
>>156285844That didn't happen.
>>156285860 >>156285950Vaggie will kill Niffty for killing Adam and then Baxter will sing a Gravity reprise
>>156286160Vaggie will then grow a Futa Cock to rape Charlie.
>>156286160>>156286170Proof Vaggi fans are insane.
>>156284633Vaggie's massive clit
>>156285756It's more of an unseen barrier.
>>156286035Eve is not Charlie's mother.
>>156285990Well, yes. Sam has said he is ignorant on two different occasions. And Viv has said that he may not have known how intensely Lute cared about him. He's an idiot.>>156286068So according to this thread, Lilith can rape Adam and Eden but
>>156286596** So according to this thread, Lilith can rape Adam in Eden, but Adam can't rape Lilith in Eden? Ok. I forget how much this thread glazes Adam and he's not capable of being a monster.
>>156286247Yes. >>156286458 case and point.
>>156286596>>156286605No because we are actually joking about Lilith raping Adam. Either way both variants ArL and LrA only work as dumb jokes because the show won't obviously do that. There are retards out there who genuinely believe Adam raped Lilith in the canon Amazon original animated show Hazbin Hotel. Which is a crazy person take.
>>156286605Adam is objectively the goat. Eve came from him. She's the GOAT Rib.
>>156286605Uh yeah, because there are legends and apocrypha where Lilith raped Adam and none where Adam raped Lilith. Once has precedent in mythology and the other doesn't. That's like asking how come Zeus can rape Leda but Leda can't rape Zeus. Adam isn't automatically the rapist because he's the man.
>>156287386To give the Lilith raping Adam discussion enthusiasts a bone considering how Viv does things it's more likely of the two.Neither scenario is probable or likely to happen but ArL is "The earth suddenly becomes flat" while LrA is "We discover multicellular complex alien life on the Moon". Neither is happening but one is slightly more likely than the other. Keep in mind that we did see Pentious and Moxxie get molested (Pentious by just men while Moxxie by both genders). Like LrA could happen(but it's not likely) but as a comedic bit. Obviously it would something not graphic and highly debatable. Like maybe she gropes him a bit or bites him. Something which you'd have to squint to assume rape. Also very much meant to be a joke and not taken seriously.
>>156284975RAs are from what I see the only other ones who look deeply at what the creator team and VAs have said in various outlets over the years. People also tend to brush off what even Viv blatantly says if they don't like it. See: the people insisting the season 2 ending with Alastor looking at Lucifer is a red herring and their relationship won't matter even though Viv literally said their relationship evolves uniquely over the series and she loves it.It is frustrating that people don't pay attention to what Jessica Vosk says but keep in mind that people handwave away what Vivziepop says over and over again or what the show unsubtly tells them if they don't like or want it. Vosk's hints never stood a chance.
>>156287603>People also tend to brush off what even Viv blatantly says if they don't like it.Oh absolutely. One of the funniest examples of this was when Hazbin Powerscalers (yes I know) were trying to ignore Viv's statement about Lute bodying Vox. The literal creator of the show tells you she could win and kill him yet you ignore that. Fucking pathetic.
>>156287603>It is frustrating that people don't pay attention to what Jessica Vosk saysLooty is slowly winning them over lol https://x.com/sourandsoft_wen/status/2121270090482188351?a=rBkkFlme1Ss51psVcnE&s=20She made that other ra schizo look at the document probably and now people are starting to realize that it's not bullshit. People have been sleeping on the Lute stuff for years.
>>156287670Overlords are the biggest frauds and jobbers in the Hellaverse.
>>156285740>AmirHe's clearly trolling. Not a single hint at season 2 plots in the season 1 finale was a red herring (even the Lilith thing just got pushed for a season) and it isn’t going to start now.
>>156287691I absolutely love the idea that most RA fans will be talking about how Lucifer will get together with Alastor and then just blurt out at the end "Also Lute is Eve".
>>156287722True. But I have nothing but disdain for Hazbin/Helluva powerscalers. Those guys fucking suck.
>>156287722The Overlords really are kind of a joke. It's why the heavy Vox focus will probably feel more and more superfluous and irrelevant as the next seasons roll out.Though I wouldn't be surprised if Overlord magic friendship beams made another appearance and also played a part in beating Roo somehow.
>>156287790I genuinely cannot tell whether the Overlords being a joke is intentional or not.
>>156288064To a degree? Viv has talked about Stolas bodying Alastor before and Rosie straight up mocked him for thinking he could take on an archangel. Realizing his limits and trying to rise above them seems like a clear plot point for Alastor, who thought he was all that and was badly humbled.
>>156288064I think it's maybe intentional. Kind of in a "enemy at the beginning of the game" way . Like after a you progress through the game and backtrack to fight them again you figure out they're kinda weak and pathetic.
>>156288095I think Sinners' danger lies in being underestimated. Vox wasn't shit but managed to harness someone much stronger and do mega damage. I can see a Sinner getting a Roo boost, too. Humans are motherfuckers that way, and humanity's endless potential for fuckery and also positive change appears to be a theme.
>>156287691She's buttering them up lol. Little bit of tit for tat, the more she plugs Radioapple the more they'll start to spread her stuff.
>>156288095I was going to say that Alastor will have to be forced to accept that he needs to become a good person to become more powerful than the Overlords but then I remembered that Lute exists lol.
>>156287670Of course she would win, she's Great Grandmama and he's a misbehaving kid
>>156288834Obviously but you expect powerscalers(literally the most media iliterate bunch in existence) to actually figure that out.
I think Lute's power is underestimated because we see her held back by Emily (a being of extreme eldritch power, an ally, and a hierarchical superior, so no she's not going to fight back) and brought to heel by Abel (who brought her under control emotionally not physically).
Seriously, it's significant that Abel's intervention was nonviolent. How easy it would be to have him discover his archangel powers as his big confidence moment and knock her out but that isn't what they wanted to go for. Some people see that scene as the most surface level jobber moment ever but there's so much going on in Lute's psyche we haven't even seen yet and the voluntary stand down is fascinating.
>>156289093It's in the document but Sam Hadt did comment on this moment specifically: how psychologically conditioned she has been, that she only responds to Adam's likeness and it wasn't even that Abel did a good job, he's actually the worst candidate to try and mimic his father, but that was enough to keep her under control. Very interesting stuff. Sam implied with the salute gesture, that it's automatic for her.
Squishy...
>>156289384glorious adam tits. we must sexualise lute's fridged husband even harder.
>>156289384Without his halo that is the fucking Devil smiling at her.
Wtf is this merch lol
>>156289431Dobby merch
>>156289435ugnh Dobby pussy indulgence
>>156289431Socks that come with portable condoms for when you want to have sexual intercourse with your homie at a slumber party which is why it's themed around two close friends that are notorious for being very sexually active.
I was thinking today how the main villain of Season 1 and 2 both have a 'worship me' moment. With Adam it's obviously his last words and people have speculated that he died specifically because he went there. Vox goes way further with his goal to become 'the one and only true God' and he has a lot of moments where he says he thinks he should be worshipped but he seems to get away with it.
>>156289543Adam is an Archangel with a lot of supernatural and political power. It's more severe for someone like him to demand worship than a stereotypical lowlife scum with an illusion of power like Vox.
Vaggi will then capture me to use as her breeding stock buck to create a legion of hybrid angel warriors.
If we're not getting show news for months they should at least reveal the menu for the Japan ribbons cafe. I want to see cute food.
Are we getting Hazbin Christmas merch?
>>156289618Vaggie waifu fags are so fucking weird.
>>156289597Counterpoint. Adam is pretty cool and I'm sure Lute agrees.
>>156289865We usually get some Christmas merch.
>>156289937Not according to Heaven. This mother fucker is not liked. Lute was the only one who thought he was cool
>>156290084Lute likes him an awful lot though.
>>156290084Well Heaven sucks
>>156290131So does he.
>>156290242Nah.
>>156289929We are a stoutly breed who like strong women. This only normal.
>>156290242No he doesn't but he's great at getting others to suck.
>>156290279>>156290255Nah. He's a washed up loser and bitter as fuck
>>156290328Nah. Compared to the rest of Heaven I'd say he was doing fine.
>>156290328He's the handsomest, funniest, bravest, most charming, most attractive man in Lute's eyes.
>>156290388He really wasn't though? In the Blu-ray commentary Viv, Sam and Skye talk about this specific subject: Heaven is not a good place for mental health. Abel is fucked up too. So not only is Adam a jerk, he's a bitter jerk with untreated PTSD and a whole lot of other shit. Of course nobody's going to like him. Two things can be true at once: heaven sucks and he sucked big time. That's the point. Only Eve liked him. Nobody could stand his ass.
Even Alex Brightman commented on how much of a loser he was. He was not only self-centered , but he's the type of 40 year old man who wears his high school graduation ring. He's a fucking loser.
>>156290567You sound jelly.
>>156290589.... Jealous of an old ass man who has ptsd, anxiety and it takes it all out on everyone else, and is an out of shape fat ass who demands worship? Sure I'm so jelly. You clocked it. Good job.
>>156290599Well you just admitted he has a fat ass.
>>156290635Which is not a good thing. That's the whole point of the joke that was being made at his expense: he let himself go. Nasty ass beer gut.
If Lute was given access to the glorious, radiant power of the Sunlight Spear, could she pose a threat to Charlie and Lucifer?
>>156290650i want to impregnate him.
>>156290745Okay Lucifer
>>156290767Gross. I'm pretty sure Lucifer is the one to get pregnant. But with Alastor.
>>156290767get that adamsapple shit outta here that ass is for alpha lute and alpha charlie, maybe ricardo the ethical bdsm demon from helluva boss.
>>156290938Adam is straight you uncultured swine. Why the fuck would he sleep with Ricardo
>>156290938>Alpha Charlie Bait or retardation?
>>156290950ricardo hot.>>156291008she's the golden retriever/himbo alpha archetype and would also be hot
Charlie looks nothing like Lilith.
>>156291158Obviously. She looks more like Lucifer and Roo. Lilith just watched.
>>156291143I wouldn't even qualify her as a bimbo. She's just fucking retarded.
>>156291285she is so sweet and so enthusiastic and trying so hard and is so very dumb, i have no choice but to find her endearing.
season 2 ruined the show
>>156286160>>156286247I meant Lute fuck I was drunk
We need episode leaks or something. I'm going insane. I can't handle another fucking year of this. Fucking retarded ass Viv moving the Lilith storyline to season 3 when it was originally for season 2. And you can fucking tell it was a last minute decision too, especially after she confirmed it. For fuck sake. Why the hell would she do that. I'm actually pissed.
>>156288834Lute is literally Frieren
>>156291515I've watched S1 maybe three times, and mostly via a patchwork of various reactors. I normally only watch E6, the Val/Angel scene in E4, and the ending of E8.Meanwhile, I've watched S2 at least a dozen times. It's just objectively better in every aspect. Writing, characters, music, pacing, everything.
Dodge this.
In a perfect world the real reason sinners can't enter heaven is because they can't truly accept Jesus in their hearts. They're too prideful or ashamed to confess their sins and ask God for forgiveness like real christian loreBut this is not a perfect world....
>>156292959Why not both?
>>156291924So Smiles could get her Vox season.
