Discuss ideas and concepts for a world and/or fantasies where women are on top.What advantages would girls have and what disadvantages would boys have?Did the matriarchy happen due to some biological, social, religious, technological or magical reason? Has all of human history been matriarchal, or did it begin at some period and strip away patriarchy?Could there be some sort of reality warp at play?Previous thread: >>11491820
>>11513645I just like the sex ratio being something like a 9/1 split. Men are too rare and valuable to be risked doing any stupid shit, so are defacto wards of the community, and can be married/adopted by women that prove they can provide for them. Men are pampered, but ultimately without agency. Pets or maybe livestock is the most direct comparison I can think of, but, not quite.Because the ratio is what it is, more collective work to maintain a boy habitat is pretty common. 10-15 women working to build a home for the boy they share is the standard, even larger collectives of 50ish women to maintain a stable of 4 or 5 happens as well. This also means collectivism is much more common; things like an entire apartment complex being the collective holdings of the essentially clan or amorphous family unit is pretty normal.
>>11513696Any changes to the way reproduction works? If the guy isn't allowed to do any hard work, then I'm guessing the 10 plus women sharing him have to agree not to get impregnated at the same time or the whole collective gets incapacitated
>>11513713Yeah, there'd have to be that kind of responsibility juggling. Though, I would imagine, with the "small village" style of household organization, things like family businesses of a scale large enough that the family can sort of act as a weird small corporation, or weird clannish, pseudo-feudal entity, so individual employment would probably be less pressing of an issue. Just as an emergent property of how collective ownership and use of the men goes. It just doesn't make much sense for a household of 20 women to all go to work at different places, you know. I imagine some alternative methods exist, there would probably be a lot of research into artificial insemination, or at least breeding stud practices, and smaller scale independent mothers/lesbian couples that don't integrate into those familial units. But those probably wouldn't be the standard, more just the sort of outculture groups that always exist. While I imagine lesbian behaviors would be a lot more normalized, just because of lack of options, I still see a mostly heteronormative society, at least on the part of women. A bit more range for female identities, since they fill most positions and roles, but, fundamentally similar. Being a lesbian is probably more associated with being low class than anything else though
are male chests the ultimate goal in life for women
>>11513840I could see girls being into it, but I can't really imagine it being on the level of boobs for us. Girls already have more pronounced chests themselves, and flatchested girls exist, too. Nothing special about the male nipple either.The reverse world equivalent should be a uniquely male body part. Why not balls?
>>11513869Nta, but women lusting after balls just seems really degrading for the women. Doesn't seem equivalent to boobs.
>>11513870>seems really degrading for the women.Depends how you look at it.Balls are a very vulnerable part of the body, and are basically only used for reproduction, rarely sex, as it is. Suppose, for a moment, a guy has his balls molested. You know, on a subway or trolley, minding his own business, and then a hand is pressed into his pants and fondled his nuts.He doesn't know who's doing it, they're being rough and coarse about it. He's both being violated, and it's probably pretty painful. Then, a guy having his nuts worshipped and fixated on, as the physical container for genetic material and legacy, is actually pretty demeaning, I'd think. You're not important, your cum bags are. If we could chop those off and keep them working, you wouldn't even be here. Imagine girls wanting to do testicle inspections to see if you're even worth dating, imagine clothing that reveals them a bit catching on, since it's all women are interested in anyways. You can barely find a good pair of pants that doesn't show off your balls, and a pair of pants that isn't slightly uncomfortable when you sit, is something you have found maybe once or twice in your life. Women will casually scrutinize their thoughts on the cleft of your scrotum, and complain that your sack is too wrinkly, or that you would be pretty if you shaved them.They're constantly cold. Nothing keeps them warm, even sweatpants sometimes have a little slit to show off a bit.
>>11513870>women lusting after balls just seems really degrading for the women.That's based on the patriarchal tendencies of our world, isn't it? Dick and balls shouldn't have the same dominant/prideful/degrading to who interacts with it connotation in the reverse world. Its also worth noting that guys get squeamish over having their balls grabbed even in our world. Imagine them getting casually groped.
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>>11513840in real life I thinklook at like, male gacha characters, they all have that little chest window
>>11513887Would women teabag eachother with their tits?
>>11513977No better way to humiliate another girl than rubbing your superior tits on her face. Getting actual boob sweat on the face is especially held to be one of the most demeaning things you can suffer.
>>11513713Women are large enough that high pregnancy is just a baby bump and doesn't impair them in any way.
>>11513879This. Once a woman has a boy by his balls, he's totally in her control. You'd worry that if you scream or shout in an attempt to stop the groper, she might panic and accidentally squeeze too hard. So you just stand there and take it and pray it's over soon, it still hurts though. After 15 minutes of continuous hard fondling, the groper leaves and you collapse onto the floor.Some strangers ask if you are okay, but there's no way you would admit what just happened so you just say you're feeling light headed. >>11513977>>11513984Imagine a flat getting smacked across the face by the alpha stacy's big tits.
>>115136451. Women are eight feet tall, with thighs as thick as tree trunks and bodies so thick they put cement to shame. 2. The matriarchy is a natural result of women being so much larger, stronger, and more dominant than men. 3. All rumours of a virus turning women into massive titted mommydoms who are psychologically obsessed to the point of yandere level disorder with turning all men into their docile and pampered pets are a hoax orchestrated by the dangerous terror cells operating out of as of yet unannexed land. Disregard these rumours and report immediately to your nearest processing facility to be welcomed into the benevolent arms of the matriarchy, where you will be stripped of all agency and independence over the course of months of physical, emotional and psychological therapy before being paired with a Mommy who has been selected from our database to be perfect for controlling every aspect of your remaining life. 4. Reality warp? Don't be silly little one this is how things have always been. All those false memories of your "old life" are just the result of the trauma you went through hiding amidst the ruins for so long and evading our Mommy patrols. Now come here it's time for your 8th nursing handjob today.
>>11513645Finally a thread that caters to me!
>>11514151>YWN experience a desperada strumming a serenade to you and the other saloon boys
>>11514144Sounds like those "ruins" boys are hiding in were buildings that couldn't handle the insane force of these new Amazons. Pribably ran straight through walls guys tried to hide behind.They pribably had to build much tougher buildings for matriarchal society, with materials so heavy a guy can't even open a door without help. Which leads to pretty effortless imprisonment.
>>11514205I like the way you think.
>>11514207Thanks.When you use words like "tree trunk thighs" and "thicker than cement" you're obviously dealing with a lot of destructive force.
>>11514205Krekkov has good art. Too bad the subject matter's so dogshit.
>>11514370Some of his stuff can be unappealing, yeah
>>11513869>>11513870>>11513879>>11513887I think I have an interesting contribution on how women may view testicles in a Matriarchal world. In my mind women would be utterly infatuated with testicles, but not from a standpoint of lust, but would instead view testicles as the essence and origin point of life itself. My Matriarchal world is very similar to what was articulated by >>11513696, where an imbalanced sex ratio leads to societity being run entirely though large familial clans, with males being valued incredibly highly yet having all forms of freedom and self expression restricted for the good of the many. In such a world, family would be everything. The status, role, and value of an individual woman would be judged solely on her respective family. Its size, wealth, strength, and reputation would determine her very self conception. Women who did not have families would be inherently distrusted owing to their desperate situation, and would form pseudo-familial gangs, that would turn to robbery, rape, and murder in order to advance themselves whenever possible. What would be considered a "family unit" within such a world would be much larger than our own, comprising upwards of 150+ individuals over dozens of households, yet rarely consisting of over a dozen (sexually mature) males. Women, almost from birth, would know that family is everything, and that families cannot be sustained without fertile males. Access to fertile boys therefore, would be considered as being simply non-negotiable for any woman with any hope of living a decent life. And this hope for the future would exist within a boy's testicles. An infertile boy would have some uses, but would never be seen as anything other than a whore. Meanwhile, a fertile boy would be the rock upon which entire dynasties are built. (1/2)
>>11514438Despite boys being seen by women as no more than factors of production, any woman would gladly lay down her life for a boy (within the family of course), as while a woman may give birth to maybe 4-5 children in her entire life, a boy could easily sire 40-50 and carry on the family legacy. Even though a boy's cock would be what girls dream about at night and what they would pine and lust and beg and rape and murder over, a boy's testicles would what they would die over. Baby boys would get orders of magnitude more love and attention than even the most loved baby girls growing up, but everyone, even his fathers and brothers, would be thinking about his potential fertility the moment he comes of age. Womens pussies would ache for a boy's cock, their hearts would crave for a boy's love, but their minds would fixate upon a boy's testicles.These posts weren't even meant to be this long, and I don't really care much for testicles from an objective point of view, but part of the reason why I love this fetish so much is how you can take one small idea and run with it to create such a detailed and fleshed out world that feels so rich with life. (2/2)
Howlsfm just released another banger. Godammit I want to live in RGR world so bad truck-kun take me.
I like the idea of men's underwear in a matriarchy would be a mix of panties and suspender's where unlike women's under clothes, men's are all accessories that clip on to your underwear, you don't wear a shirt or dress, you wear your suspender's and loop a thread of fabric under your strap, tighten it (which just so happily tightens around the waistline) and the neck of the dress uses a tie similar to that of a hoodie or shoe lace and you have to pull it so it doesn't fall off and expose all the way down to your lower torso.Imagine walking through a park with your girlfriend, some boring tour with her friends because she promised one of her gals she'd be there, your both at the back and before you can react she hooks her fingers under the neck of your attire, pulling it open, the only thing saving your dignity being at the back of the group and the straps of your suspender covering your chaste nipplesalso men should be petite traps with disproportionally size dicks, this is vital.
>You've always rallied against the expectations of Matriarchal society. The idea of being cooped indoors all day like a househusband seemed nauseating. You were outgoing, always hanging out with the boys at clubs, parties, beaches, anywhere out of the house.>As a male you have a pretty active libido that needs taking care of. Propoganda likes to spin this as a reason boys NEED a wife, but plenty of random girls were willing to ride you until you came. They might only see you as a human dildo to mount, but they emptied your balls to satisfaction all the same. >Last year, your roommate got hitched and taken away. Surprisingly, a woman answered your ad for a new one. Real classy Dame with an insane income that could easily live somewhere much better>She claimed she needed something closer to work, and this apartment was the best deal by a longshot.>Some of your friends warned against taking her in, rumors about "angler syndrome". You didn't believe in that stuff but were still skeptical of her. Then she offered to cover all rent and half the utilities with no expectations in return.>how could you refuse? >Things went just fine early on. You kept to yourself and left the house as much as possible. She respecred your boundaries and privacy. Never brought anyone over, never even commented when you left a mess.>One thing did bother you. If you were home when she left for work, she would always urge you to try to stay safe indoors and simply tell her anything you needed brought home.>You'd scoff, "not my boss" then go about your regular partying and fucking as usual>One day, you got back home immediately before she did, and she was delighted to find you by the door>"Aww, how sweet of you, roomie. You waited all day for me to get back? I'm so flattered">You were incredulous as she kissed your forehead. Did she really think you would do that? Couldn't she tell based on your clothes? Somehow, it didn't feel right to correct her then at that moment...1/3
>>11514962>The next few months brought changes you couldn't understand>She suddenly felt "guilty" over making you pay anything, inisisting she cover all bills. Even threw in an extra allowance so you wouldn't have to work for your nights out.>You grew suspicious at this, but were happy to free-load. When you had enough money saved to keep afloat for a while, even if she were to cut you off, you indeed quit your job to party more.>Despite all the free time in the world, you actually began to go out less. You'd focus more on cleaning up and taking care of the apartment, her stuff included. Picked up cooking as hobby and actually started requesting she bring ingredients over on her way back. She'd always compliment your cooking. Before long, you were cooking breakfast and dinner for her.>She continued urging you to stay inside while she was at work, though you were obviously doing that at your discretion. Eventually, however, it became an actual struggle to leave. You'd dress up, stare at the apartment door, and suddenly be bombarded with distractions of something else that needed to be done around the house. Then she'd be back to give you another kiss before you knew it.>Somehow, it made you feel special and cherished to be rewarded like this. You became more and more reluctant to "disappoint" her, and soon took her request not to go out as law.>You stopped hanging out or talking with the boys>As soon as she took notice, she began taking you out "for some fresh air" on the weekends. Places like parks, restaurants, movies. Going out became an experience you would share with her.>Now that the one-night stands had ended, you were incredibly backed up. >She took notice of that as well, and started offering her hand. It felt somewhat humiliating to be regularly milked this way, but there was no other choice. She didn't seem willing to ride you, and everyone knows that boys lose control of their limbs as they near climax, so self-stimulation was impossible.2/3
>>11514966>As time passed, it became clear the handjobs just weren't enough. They kept the blue balls at bay, but it didn't wring you dry to satisfaction the way being engulfed and having your fluids pumped out by womanhood did.>You finally asked her to ride you>She agreed to, but only on the condition of [MARRIAGE]>a few months ago, you would have been offended at the notion>despite all the double standards and physical inferiorities, a single guy could still mostly do what he wanted. A husband was basically property. Once the marriage is finalized, all his possessions, including his own personhood, is automatically transferred to the wife.>You thought your old roommate was an idiot for willingly subjecting himself to be some broad's slave. Now the same choice laid before you, and your soul was screaming at you to accept. >Would going back to how things were be better? The relative freedom of enjoying life on your own terms?>You just couldn't see yourself go back to that. Out every night with nothing to look forward to at home. Working a dead end job that's not an ounce as fufilling as struggling all day to make a woman happy.>And the sex. Could you really bare to be passed around by random women who saw you as nothing but a toy again? Who'd drain your balls but never grace you with the warm and tingly sensation of this woman's embrace?>You were already acting as househusband anyway. Might as well make it official.>A few weeks later, you were legally wedded as hers.>She fucked your brains out, and started showering you in all the love and effection she was holding back when pretending to be a mere roommate >All that mattered now was working hard to be the husband your magnanimous wife deserved. >She became much more forward in her commands, ordering you to do all sorts of things that other boys would have found quite defrading or unreasonable. You'd never think of disobeying her, but it felt extra nice knowing that it was now illegal to tell her no.
>>11514631I'm having a really hard time picturing the clothing you're describing
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Just saw a trailer for a movie called Ladies First, and the plot from IMDB is as follows>A male chauvinist is transported to a matriarchal society, facing challenges from a formidable female version of himself.Trailer didn't give too much info, but I'm interested to see how they decide to go about it, though I'm sure it'll be shit as far as movies go. What do you boys think? How much of our own worldbuilding do you think will be present?
>>11515658I don't see any chance of it being a worthwhile watch. Probably going to be used as feminist talking points more than anything.It's almost certainly not aiming to reflect the mostly outdated levels of patriarchy this thread tries to mirror. Gonna maybe a little more matriarchal than the modern west is patriarchal.
>>11515658> Netflix goyslop girlboss movieActually-existing-matriarchy is asexual and resentful of men, because thats what feminism is. It's all motivated by getting back at your dad (or ex), not by fetishization of male submission (that only makes them angrier and more spiteful). Anything that men enjoy (ie boobs and pussy) is to be taken away from them and pounded into dust.Patriarchy has a nobless oblige component that HR girlboss matriarchy lacks. Wih power comes responsiility, and there is a give and take between the needs of the man and woman (because men love women more than men).What the people in this thread want is a reverse-patriarchy, not a matriarch. That is not feasible, nor will it ever be portrayed in hollywood goyslop.Accept that this is a fantasy, and leave it there.
>>11515687What about us actually existing women who want to fetishize male submission? The filtered overculture isn't everyone.When men are in vulnerable and pitiable situations, I get a rush of endearing thoughts and aggressive intentions. And there are actual real people who exist in ways that make me just want to grab and touch and flflfflflffffflll...There are mainstream feminism social codes where people ask for dignity and equality and it's important for me to act in favour of that project sometimes, but at heart I also have this super chauvinist brain that gets happy when men submit to women or when situations unequally favour women, and that gets upset when women submit to men.I think there are differences in fantasies here, where I would prefer male instincts and psychology to be shaped in the interests of women rather than the reverse, but I would be sad if my orientation were ruled out of people's understanding of how women feel.
>>11513645As someone who likes (hardcore) femdom and the like, most of the things here don't work for me at all and are what is usually wrong with the matriarchy fetish, in my opinion. A man does not give a shit about whether he is on top, on bottom, or anywhere else, as long as he is able to fuck a woman. We derive the same pleasure from it—it is our natural drive. Therefore, all the images and scenarios where women are "totally dominant" but still get fucked by the man either way in the end are completely meaningless, in my opinion. Or the women using men as sex toys, jerking them off, etc. We men like that. We still get what we want out of it, which is not the same situation as a man using a submissive or unwilling woman and dominating her. Because in those cases, the woman feels used, violated, etc.—which just does not work the other way around, given the sex drive and the "penis first" mentality pretty much all men biologically have. A prime example is the typical image of a big/muscular woman getting fucked by a smaller male, which is supposed to be "domineering and forceful" to the male… which… what? He is still fucking her. He is getting exactly what he wants. The "dominant" attitude of the woman is literally doing nothing. Don't get me wrong—I don't try to claim that every male should walk around in a chastity device for it to be femdom or anything like that. But the denial of the one thing any man craves above anything else needs to be a major focus, in my mind. As long as the man is able to stick his dick in the woman's pussy and fuck her, he won, and she "lost." All the domineering actions were just a meaningless act at that point. Sorry for rambling, but maybe someone feels the same way I do.
>>11513645One of my fantasies for how a population grows mayriarchal involves sexual selection for useful, obedient men.Women should get to choose the fathers of their children, and this simple principle undoes a lot of tragedy in our current lineage.A man who goes out of his way to improve a woman's life, attending to her many struggles and needs? He is good material for offspring. An entitled man who uses force and coercion as a sexual strategy? Awful material, send him away and castrate him immediately.A fellow who has travelled to distant lands and brought back with him knowledge and tools that I have never seen before, and that I can freely use? Cool guy! I get to sleep with him. The jealous man who thinks he gets to decide who I sleep with one day to another? Away with him. This behaviour serves me poorly,And so, with women getting to decide the male behaviours that get passed to the next generation, the balance of male behaviours shifts towards what women want. Women are free to pursue whatever awesome things that develop and enrich humanity, with supportive people in their midst.There would be some guys out there who would prefer to gaze through telescopes or craft innovative tools or become experts in games, without optimizing for mating. They are fine and lovely and there is nothing wrong with their happy non-fathering lives.
>>11515797And in the patriarchy threads (and in many works of fiction made by women for women), the women are getting fucked. Men and women are not the same, so some things don't change even if you change things like who is taller, stronger, smarter, in charge, and so on.
>>11515658>>11515662 and >>11515687 are likely accurate pointers.Not that >>11515795 doesn't obviously make good points, or that it wouldn't have a lot of good things in it, but ime a lot of rev-world stuff falls apart on the worldbuilding.When you think about it, an enormous amount of our irl language, fashion, society and culture has a basis in some degree of gender role, mostly all of which is patriarchal.So a lot of Rev-world Matriarchy settings carry that irl baggage. Women still wear skirts. 'You little bitch carries connotations of weakness, while 'You little cock' carries connotations of being a difficult obstacle.It's not so much a standalone world with women apathetic to misandry occupying the traditionally masculine roles, so much as a revenge fantasy against perceived male patriarchy, clearly written by a woman who may not know well what it's like to fill those societal roles and expectations.TL:DR if the writers don't fucking cook with it, the setting will be a 'wow look at how powerful women are here' full of annoying little holes and contrivances that don't make sense, and I don't trust Netflix to be able to write like that.On the other hand, we could have someone from here who writes for it, given a matriarchal society is decently obscure as a show concept, in which case, based. And we really don't know until we watch it so it may have some good stuff.
>>11515800>Castration and cuckshitHave you considered that the reason why men are generally in charge in real life is that they are useful and supportive? It's like how, say, a good politician that works hard to make things better for the population ends up being re-elected again and again.
>>11515802Exactly my point.
>>11515805Anon, men and women are different. It isn't a case of "muh hecking male fantasy", but the fact that women want to be fucked and fucking her isn't her "losing". You're basically demanding that men be turned into women and women be turned into men, not women being stronger, smarter, in charge, etc.
>>11515803>the writers don't fucking cook with itThis is an issue that affects both the patriarchy threads and the matriarchy threads. They don't think of the conditons of the setting to explain why it is like that, but instead just go into BDSM stuff.
>>11515797I agree with you on wanting to decenter the penis, I want the matriarchal mindset to involve obeying the lady in the more everyday parts of life.As you are talking about sex, though, you don't need to hold the idea that it is a "loss" for the woman, She can enjoy it and seek it for her own reasons!And penetration does not need to be dominating. Enveloping someone, surrounding someone, engulfing someone can be just as dominating.Some people have tried to put the word "circlusion" to it, and I don't think it will catch on but it's a correct concept.https://thenewinquiry.com/six-years-and-counting-of-circlusion/Perhaps matriarchy cravers could gain a lot from reading more feminist literature, and books on sexuality written by/for women?
>>11515808>"muh hecking male fantasy",Is this about what I wrote? Because that wasn't at all what I was trying to say.In general Im not sure, if I am understanding you correctly. But for me none of these aspects mean anything if they end in the same outcome as before. Just by virtue of the penis being the aspect that needs to penetrate the pussy a woman with superior strength could not leverage that strength for that purpose, and again, a man would have no reason to resist that leverage in the first place. A strong man is a "danger" to a woman because she does not want to be fucked or rather wants to have control over who fucks her, a man could not care less. A strong woman that wants sex is the same as before.Maybe I am explaining this too clinically. I of course want women to doubt their tits to men even in a femdom scenario, I want them to be hot too etc. at the end I want to jerk to it, but I am more talking about the portrayal of the dominance in those scenarios. Maybe I need to think about how to explain it and come back later.
>>11515813I think I put the focus on the wrong side. It's not that I think women are "losing" by getting fucked—I said that more as a contrast, and I fully admit I should have worded that better. It's that men are "not losing" when fucking, no matter which context, pretty much. And sure, maybe my views on what constitutes dominance, etc., are what cause this divide in understanding it. But from a more realistic point of view, I think the only meaningful leverage women have over men is through sex, or the withholding of it.Me portraying it as "losing" and "winning" probably reflects a deeper aspect of how I see such relationships. But for me, for someone to be dominant, someone else needs to be in a position of relative submission in some aspect—and that aspect needs to feel authentic for the dominance to matter.
>>11515795> What about us actually existing women who want to fetishize male submission?Even if you 1) an actual woman and not a tranny or 2) this 'submission' doesn't involve male cuckery like cages: What I said still applies to anything Netflix.The women & gays who write for Netflix resent straight men and what they enjoy, hence the constant hand-wringing about 'male gaze' (it must be a-priori bad because men enjoy it!). To avoid the threat of male-gazing, you *must* fill the screen at all times with androgynous black butch lesbian who are Getting It Done, or those moids might start getting ideas.That they know the /d/egens ITT exist, somewhere on planet earth, will compel them to purge this 'matriarchy' of any fetishism. Not because they want it, but because you /d/egens want it, and therefore you don't deserve it.>>11515797This is a prime example of what I'm talking about. Men enjoy sex -> you have to take it away. It's a facile and childish understanding of power and dominance (as if women in patriarchy don't enjoy sex). Power isn't strictly about contests of will. Power is when "A man moves a man" (or "a woman moves a man" for this thread). The subtlest and most insidious form of power isn't even perceived, and bypasses conscious will completely.Until you understand that Doms/Subs are actually in a codependent relationship, you're always be 2nd-rate.
>>11515795Need more cute men being made to whimper by aggressive girls who like hearing it>>11515803Writers probably won't cook, sadlyNot much I can contribute here other than that whore might count as a gender neutral term since it just refers to prostitution>>11515810BDSM conventions and their consequences have been a disaster for any domination-adjacent fetish postsI don't need shitty forced "bad boy" with latex and painful looking implements where the guy very clearly is just a masochist I want straight-up women raping men>>11514962>>11514966>>11514971Cute>>11514444>>11514438>tfw your brother can't spend time with you anymore because he's busy being made into the communal cumpump
>>11515804You're right, it had never occured to me that men being supportive and useful is the reason why women in the USA could not have bank accounts under their own name until 1974. Sorry for lacking respect.
Not sure why >>11515819 felt the need to bring up cuckery, cages and transgenders as soon as a woman with a fetish came by to post, but generally he is on the money with the issues of this worldbuilding exercise- it's often being done through a specific lens that refuses to actually engage with or build upon the idea and defines everything through men still somehow counting as benefiting or being in charge, so you get insane takes like "erm Actually it is Not Matriarchial unless all men are being hopelessly trapped in the Ball-Crushing Soul-Destroying Torment Nexus 24/7 for women's entertainment and all die as loveless virgins who never even see a woman in person".
If a smelly shipwreched naked man washes up on the shore of *your* island, you have the right to keep him. Make him wear your extra robes and teach him to brush his teeth.
Anyway, here's my /d/egen worldbuilding> Sometime in humanity's past, thanks to a strike by a massive asteroid strike, the diversity of food contracted dramatically into hard-to-digest plant/fungal/other sources.> This contraction required a larger and more complex digestive system.> Some tribes learned that if you kept the women mostly immobile and well fed, you could supplement the rest of the tribe with their breastmilk.> This led to human sexual divergence. Women grew much larger and better endowed to feed the rest of the tribe.> Men's digestive system atrophied to only accept breastmilk. They stop growing after their young teen years to reduce caloric load.> Women's menopause was hugely delayed to increase the lactating years.> Farming and later industrial agriculture removed those constraints, but the male digestive atrophy was irreversible.> Households are composed of a blood-related women, lead by a head matron (who by default has the biggest boobs). Boyish twinks who are traded between households to prevent incest.> A woman who is decisive and maternal is said to have the 'bosom' to support it> To become a political leader you must be in both the top %5 height and cup sizes. Many (small-breasted) women think this is unfair.> Twink husbands gain their value from being from high status houses (having 'strong seed') and having big dicks.> Big dicked husbands from high status houses are highly coveted status symbols, used frequently in advertising and media, setting what lesser husbands believes are unrealistic standards.> Said lesser husbands may harbour delusions of equal rights, but their own biological dependence on breast milk means they cannot survive outside a household.> With the advent of genetic engineering, the matriarchal governments have been aggressive in banning any attempt to restore male independence. Conversely, they have been pro-active in deepening this dependence, and 'softening' any inconvenient rebellious tendencies.
>>11515797As a hardcore femdom fan myself, I kind of understand what you mean. I'm unironically all for worlds where men are effectively kept in chastity, constantly denied and subserviant just for the chance to be allowed to pop. In one of my fantasies, men get so hard and sensitive as they approach climax that they can't possibly cum without help. It takes so much stimulation that a woman riding him WILL get several orgasms herself before he can, so it's completely up to her if she wants to help him pass the final threshold into release in who knows how long.I think a lot of these matriarchy concepts that center around sex could really use soke kind of element where the act becomes scarier/more burdensome for men. Maybe guys have their own cycle where they can only get a girl pregnant one week out of the month. Biology discourages getting frisky outside of that week via a blue balls like sensation if the guy so much as gets aroused off-schedule. Horny girls naturally don't care and see it as a perfect contraceptive opportunity, so they'll happily rape these guys. She'll Ignore his cries of pain as he spills tears and infertile cum.
Goddamn, I just want to get my ass smacked and be told to get back in the kitchen.
>>11515840>> Farming and later industrial agriculture removed those constraints, but the male digestive atrophy was irreversible.But I'm guessing this women were able to become active and mobile again? So deliciously unfair that men are doomed to an enternity of submission because of temporary needs for survival
>>11515819> Until you understand that Doms/Subs are actually in a codependent relationship, you're always be 2nd-rate.I find this complements my point rather well, to be honest. You read matriarchy as a Dom/sub relationship—a sexual fetish act that starts and ends at the bedroom door. I see a matriarchy and femdom society much more through the lens of how a reality in which women are actually superior to men and act like it would work, while viewing it from a real-world perspective.A Dom/sub relationship is the furthest thing from what I tried to give my opinion on. Instead, it's about matriarchy and reverse gender roles—how they could actually work and have the same impact as it does with men being dominant over women in our world, or just in general. I'm not necessarily talking about a fantasy setting, but rather how it works and makes sense to me. And men's sex drive is one of the if not the most important aspect to that. Most men could not give a shit about anything in their life as long as they get sex.>>11515843Yeah this is "closer" to what I think about when it comes to putting men into a subservient and inferior role to women, it is still not what I think I enjoy most but it at least tries to tackle the aspect of sex being power for men.
>>11515845You can have this without fantasizing but the difference is that it would be YOUR CHOICE, women who were treated like it by the patriarchy did not have a choice in the matter and matriarchy needs to reflect that too, but how are you justifying that a women could treat you like that without you just pushing their light out with your superior strength?
>>11515904To be perfectly fair, it's still a Matriarchy if the women are in charge, regardless of how sexually satisfied men are with the result. In fact, taking advantage of men’s sex drive to get us to capitulate seems like pretty fair game. Sexual manipulation at society wide scale.This actually reminds me of a weird Kingdom in Final Fantasy 4 named Troaia. Visit the castle, and you see the place is run by women. Visit the (optional) town and the dominant feature of the place is somehow a whore house, with most of the male citizens being horny scatterbrains. Makes me think they're intentionally using sex to distract men from the power imbalance.
>>11515795Most female doms (bar one) I've known were pretty divorced from the modern feminist mindset, we're all twisted in different ways. People like different stuff. I was about to say we shouldn't paint with broad strokes but then realised I am an author who does almost literally that lol
>>11515909What's your issue exactly? Are you complaining because you're too autistic to imagine a scenario where men aren't physically superior? Or where men are more rigidly bound by how they're percieved by others?
>>11515821If you want to keep playing dumb, then go back.
>>11515843See what I mean about you wanting to turn women into men and men into women?
>>11515927I don't think I'm the same anon you were talking to before.At any rate, you should expect creative changes to how reproduction works in these threads. Reverse world and all that. Its not like I gave men pussies or erased PiV.Perfectly fine if you prefer to limit changes to social dynamics.
It's been far too long due to extenuating circumstances so contributing what I can, but it's hard to find art that says "matriarchy" and not just "femdom", but that also isn't just hardcore/sissy/feminization/ballbusting/etc, or western art where it's much much more prevalent. Then again it's difficult to depict societal level prevaling mores in a single image I guess. Maybe that's why bigger/taller girls is such a turn on. It naturally lends itself to matriarchal tropes. So easy to imagine them to dominating smaller guys (though imagine remains the operative word as it isn't actually depicting a matriarchy).
Female authority is always so mean...
>>11515953Yeah, it's very difficult to find femdom stuff that isn't. That's one of the big reasons I got into my work, nobody was making stuff I was into because it was all (see prev.) so I decided I'd make it so at least there would be some out there. I wish I could draw at all then I'd be drawing stuff for these threads lol
>>11515956Haha yeah...I'm totally not into them being mean either...
>>11515970>>11515970If people like mean femdom I envy them, there's endless content for them to enjoy hehe
You never see what happens behind the scenes in a matriarchy. The milking facilities are hard work.
For every boy you see having his cock mercilessly pumped by a sheathe designed to mimic the most irresistible handjob/blowjob possible remember there are hard working women in our society swapping out O-rings, maintaining machines, cleaning out the cum tubes...
>>11515989Goes to show that we boys should really stop complaining about "agency" and "imprisonment." Women are out there doing all this hard work for our sake. We should be grateful and reward their sacrifice with unquestioning obediance.
>>11515989>hard working women in our society swapping out O-rings, maintaining machines, cleaning out the cum tubes...I'd read a manga about a maintainence woman who keeps these facilities running. And every chapter is about her having to deal with another problem that pops up.
>>11516006Mechanical problems?
>>11516006I'd love to read this. Matriarchal society idea: Their religion worships men. Some men are taken to monasteries and worshipped, but I mean quite literally worshipped. Kept as objects of worship. They are kept in the monasteries and treated quite literally like deities - i.e. glorified prisoners. Every possible need attended to. Do the women who run these monasteries actually believe they're deities? Or are they just using it as a paper thin pretense to kidnap and enslave men in their bosomy prisons where they are in every possible sense including the literal in golden cages? Who's to say. Their rituals do seem to involve a lot more pinning boys down and having their way with them, soapy group bubble baths and 8 hour long orgies than they do prayer. Here's a travel brochure in case you're interested.
We've gone over how a mismatched gender ratio would be self-correcting. The less common gender would have a proportionally higher contribution of genetic material to the next generation, so the evolutionary pressure would be towards increasing that output.There may be a workaround; the monstergirl encyclopedia solution.>There's baseline humans, and there are amazons.>Baseline humans have a 50/50 gender ratio, and a pure baseline ancestry going all the way back. A child from a baseline mother will always be a baseline human.>Amazons are 100% women. They need men from baseline tribes to father the next generation. A child from an amazon will always be an amazon.>Baseline humans don't experience evolutionary pressure to change the gender ratio. Amazons don't have a gender ratio to change.>Counting human women and amazons together, the gender ratio is functionally 2:1I kinda like a setting where there are normal women to set the expectation of gender roles and then amazons to radically break them.
>>11515923> IssuesI had a nice discussion with the other anons, if that offended you somehow then I am sorry, but you are the only one with issues right now.
>>11515953Well it is sexy for one, but if we look at it in contrast to the real world then women are convinced men are doing all these horrible things to them too. Therefore when the relationship is flipped it should reflect that too. I think these two points are the reasons why dominant women are always mean, because men are when they are in the same position (in theory).
Imagine male rights groups beginning to crop up, only to immediately doom their cause via constant infighting over what they actually want changed and what should stay the same.Deep down, every man loves at least some aspect of how he's treated in the matriachy. No one is actually seeking complete equality, but good luck getting most men to agree on specifics.
>>11516044So true lolOne would have to wonder if male rights groups had in some way been compromised. Were men secretly still under the yoke of female dominance conspiring from within to take them down? Would the femdom government smile and assure men that they were free to organise and express their opinions and they had nothing to do with planting people inside their organisations? How many of those women who claimed to support them were hiding ulterior motives behind those knowing smiles? In the end why are boys so worried about their rights? Wouldn't it be so much nicer to crawl into bed with your loving (state mandated) wife?
Personally, I like matriarchy settings because they can explore power dynamics not possible in real life, either via legal constraints or some fantasy/sci-fi element. Settings that boil down to "what if women were big and men were socially expected to be househusbands" aren't nearly as interesting as they could be.
>>11516050I've been accused of that before (and not unjustly so) so I get what you mean. Sleepymaid is an artist who excels at always looking for new twists even on existing ideas. You're totally right, I love it when people explore new and interesting femdom scenarios. Experimenting and seeing what's possible is fun. When you can explore literally anything it's a shame to limit yourself. Like you say those restrictions don't exist in the fictional world so why restrain yourself. Though I feel once it strays into Cronenberg territory you really are pushing the limits.
I know a lot of guys feel the state of the world is pretty unfair but, honestly, men have no one to blame but themselves. Back when female human were even frailer than their male counterparts, mankind was often butting heads with various races of monstergirls over territory disputes and the like. These wars ALWAYS ended in truces when the soldiers of yore just couldn't help themselves and resorted to mating with the enemy.Naturally, all the inbreeding resulted in a bunch of powerful traits being added to the human genome that would only ever be expressed in females. The modern human woman is now an almagation of so many superhuman genes that they easily outperform men in every way.How can you complain about being oppressed by women when your penis CHOSE to make them so much smarter and stronger that it only makes sense? Yesterday’s humanity would get immediately enslaved by today's women. There is no contesting their rule.
>>11516044>>11516049Most of the boys in those are just playing hard to get are are secretly overjoyed when the matriarchy police arrest the entire group and send them to a reëducation camp. The few boys who genuinely believe that shit are quickly disabused of it when they see their fellows licking guards' boots and taking their straps.
>>11516054>those restrictions don't exist in the fictional world so why restrain yourselfLimitation breeds creativity
>>11515797I'd like to add to your point with another prime example.I think the people trying to sell a regular "harem" story as somehow subversive or matriarchal because the women are bigger are EXTREMELY retarded.Women can't actually rape men either. Infact, female rapists will end up worse off than their "victims" because they end up getting pregnant.
There's a type of fiction I'm into and want to share, taking place in oppressive matriarchal settings. A decently privileged girl who has ethical objections to the matriarchy and doesn't want to take advantage of anyone, winding up owning a well-trained deeply submissive boy who wants her to to want him and is eager to serve and please. Here are two I know of, do you know of other works like this?https://archiveofourown.org/works/26177209/chapters/63698356https://archiveofourown.org/works/59641132/chapters/152111722
>>11516104Have you considered that at the very least some women actually do want to have children? This is /d/, not tumblr.
>>11516208Idek what point you're trying to make. Are you trying to argue that regular harems are matriarchal or that females can "rape" males (in a way that's comparable to regular rape)?
>>11516303>Idek what point you're trying to make.Fuck off back to tumblr if you're going to keep playing dumb.>Are you trying to argue that regular harems are matriarchalMatriarchy is an extremely broad term that just means that women are in charge, just as patriarchy is an extremely broad term that means that men are in charge.>females can "rape" malesRape is non-consensual sex. Of course females can rape males.
>>11516195Cute and bookmarking for laterTragically I do not recall many similar works
my matriarchal worldview is a state that would only be stable as such if it were artificially created (as a whole).I find it very nasty to ask how male sexuality could be used to create a system from which no man could ever escape.the forever trap for men.(if you reach that 'planet' as a normal man you will be assimilated and have literally no chance.)so my ideas are theoretically but the result would lead - if applied to reality for long enough - to a extermely stable new state.in my world, men have no status. they dont receive a formal education and live at home.theres no such thing as a single man. as they get older, they usually are sold to milking farms - or worse.I think a form of ongoing sexual abuse in early childhood (combined with the denial of sexual privileges, the use of chastity devices, rewards, punishments, conditioning, and much more) that is lived out within a ceremonial, religious framework is needed first.this would generate a strong psychological dependence in form of a mixture of emotions that triggers (lust and fear).there are certainly many ways to approach this, but a realistic assessment would also have to take womens civil liberties into account.what if a mother didnt want to subject her child to the ritual? therefore, certain models of coexistence are recommended.in my opinion, the best solution would be living arrangements that do not offer complete privacy outside of the bathroom.several women could live together with their children, for example its an appartment block with several appartment each is huge and shared by 15 people or so.I think its also important for the boys to be surrounded by significantly more women (mothers, sisters).virtually all young men end up wearing a cage, only a few men ever have the chance to take it off later in their lifes.the extent of subjugation would likely be unlimited.a supreme council oversees the whole society and a rewards program encourages loyalty to the system.
>>11516400>if you reach that 'planet' as a normal man you will be assimilated and have literally no chanceThat's really hot to think about. Imagine going to another dimension or something, and getting blindside by matriachal society that immediately enslaves you
>>11516405I dont know if it would be dangerous for someone who is an outsider and recognizable as such to enter such a world.the question relates to how such a society (based on the assumptions I have described) would evolve on its own. if female sexuality were completely free to define itself, what kind of influence would emerge from my constraints?to give a few examples, characteristics of the reproductive organs could play a more significant role in reproduction, but so could genetic predispositions toward submissiveness.over time, certain preferences in education might emerge - classifications based on the size of sexual organs, the ability to give sexual satisfaction, and so on.so the world you are entering may be harmless, but it could also be very dangerous I guess.I see the potential for some truly gruesome, stable traumata-based scenarios.just imagine youre a boy growing up there, and once a month, the harshest punishments for misdeeds are broadcast on TV.so you are sitting there, surrounded by women who half-rape you every day, watching on TV a man who tried to escape is literally fucked to death by 30 young women.just to get a sense of your situation. maybe youre not even allowed to go to the bathroom by yourself or fucking wipe.in this world, it might not be dangerous in the traditional sense, but you might end up being sacrificed as described.or you get fucked in the ass to death by 30 young girls.or they just cut off your penis.or you might have to wear a cage during your stay.or, in addition to the last, they might try to convert you afterwards or force you.or and you might end up on a milk farm.
>>11516353>Matriarchy is an extremely broad term that just means that women are in charge, just as patriarchy is an extremely broad term that means that men are in charge.The one in charge of the harem is the guy who gets the attention and is doted on by every member of the harem.>Of course females can rape males.Notice how I specifically said "in a way that's comparable to regular rape".>"Oh nooo, big woman is emptying my balls for me against my will! How horrible!What're you gay?
>>11516419>or you might have to wear a cage during your stay.That would be fun
>>11516419>you get fucked in the assFutaniggers...
>>11516469I'm sure he was thinking pegging
>>11516033>>11516405The idea of matriarchal society invading a more even, or even patriarchal society is pretty hot.That doesn't even need another dimension to work. Just a multiplanetary scifi setup is nice enough.I have one 40k-specific scenario in mind.>Relatively peaceful planet, agricultural world that's been fallin behind on quotas>As an unorthodox method to shake the world up from complacency, adminstratum designates it as disbanding point for a major regiment of imperial guard>An all-female regiment>In a span of few days, every settlement on planet is swamped by hardened, scarred and psychotic women who have been to hell and back>... and feel that their tour of duty makes them entitled to everything they want>And even if some of them may have gone lesbian over decades of not even seeing a dick, most of them have not>Even the strongest field worker is no match for professional, often cybernetically enchanted killing machine that any retiring guardswoman is bound to be>Everyone on ground is nothing more than slab of meat for them, and they enjoy biting>Initial greeting balls and other events resemble more battlefield rape scenes as repulsive, disfigured and sweaty killers force themselves on men decade or two younger than them, often scooping more than one partner for the night>And invite themselves to live with their families the day after, starting to prey on their initial target's brothers and fathers (if they are hot enough) afterwards>They don't have to break up with their soft planeteer waifs of course, but trying to deny a bona-fide war heroine her veteran's benefits makes the ensuing rape perfectly legal>Most try to poison them in their sleep, but nothing regular civilians can procure makes even a dent in body chemistry used to combat drugs
>>11516445>The one in charge of the harem is the guy who gets the attention and is doted on by every member of the harem.No, you retard.>Notice how I specifically said "in a way that's comparable to regular rape".IRL rape is bad because it is non-consensual sex.>"Oh nooo, big woman is emptying my balls for me against my will! How horrible!"Oh nooo, big man is fucking my pussy against my will! How horrible!" is like 90% of romance stories written by women for women. Rape is a relatively common fetish, but most people still don't want to rape or be raped.>What're you gay?No, but you clearly are.
>>11516400>Israeli kibbutz, but with chastity cagesAlso WTF is that image?
>>11516520Oh, to be a young farmboy who's caught the eye of a retired general with a robotic leg. To be made to bath her by hand with a washcloth. To be dragged along as some sort of fucktrophy to her gathering with fellow veterans.
>genuinely angry with a woman who's been pushing your buttons all day and helping herself to your things without permission>that's it, you're going to teach her a lesson>soon as you raise your hand, she lifts her shirt>no matter how much you may despise her, you're still male. The evolutionary programming in your brain immediately ceases all aggression and goes into feeding mode>within seconds, you're obediantly nursing on her tits. Being extremely delicate so as not to harm her in any way>your thoughts and behavior growing passive and suggistable >looks like you're going to let her walk all over you some more
>>11516615*suggestible
In any matriarchal society, cunnilingus has to be the most common form of sex right? >women cum easier through clitoral stimulation>one sided in favor of women>much easier to do discretely in front of others/in public>no risk of pregnancy or the like>woman can multi-task while being eaten outThink about it, the only other one that could make sense would be fingering. Vaginal sex has risk to it, need both to undress at least somewhat. Anal requires preparation. Pegging can be something to get off on, but would not allow to cum easily except maybe a double sided dildo. And stuff like felatio and other penis x some body part would be pleasuring the guy more, so unless eating semen is that delicious, that seems very unlikely. This could lead to some very fun world building, as men's mouths and tongue would be seen as sexy. Even IRL, if a guy had a long/fat tongue the jokes about women loving him pop are everywhere. >I did not have sexual relations with that man with the joke of it was "only cunnilingus" would be funny.
>>11516663I really do like the idea of cunnilingus becoming much more important in a Matriarchal society than fellatio is within our Patriarchal society. Cunnilingus could take on so much institutional power that it could evolve into something seen as more than just a sex act. Cunnilingus inside a Matriarchal societity, or the act of someone putting their lips/mouth to a woman's groin, within my mind would be an action that would predominantly be carried out (by virtue of sheer volume of numbers) by women to other women. Cunnilingus would be the ultimate symbol of dominance over another, the idea of a man submitting to you through performing oral sex is an unremarkable sight as men are expected in all domains to submit to a woman, but making your rival/inferior eat your pussy would mark your dominance over them.
>>11516703>Boot up le xbox>Boot up le call of doody>"FUCKING AIMBOT NIGGER, LICK MY PUSSY LIKE YOUR DAD DID LAST NIGHT!"
>>11516703>>11516725
>>11516520>regular earth>UFOs are revealed to the public and first contact is made>turns out the "aliens" are an offshoot of humanity that achieved technological supremacy millenia ago and has been out colonizing space>huge, powerful, women, each thigh as big as an Earth man's entire body>they are delighted to re-discover their ancestral home>especially since they've been using cloning pods for so long that their male genome deteriorated generations ago, and the humans of earth play onto some sexual nerve they didn't even know they still had>humanity is uplifted and saved from its struggles by these new benevolent overlords>but gender relations take a hit>men are usually snatched up by outworlders, and begin to be seen as rare and precious>the whole culture shifts to objectify and commoditize male bodies>now Earth women are getting gene therapy to become like outworlders to compete over men
Greetings, aspirant.To complete your citizenship test please complete the following sentence:"Ejaculation is___"
>>11516941... An involuntary physical reaction that can be induced with enough stimulation, regardless of emotional wellbeing of the man experiencing it!
>>11516963You've alerted the authorities with your response, anonYou know what happens now...
>>11516195I have similar taste and will have a read. You might might find this story interesting.https://www.deviantart.com/beverlypf/art/The-Consummation-Contract-Chapter-1-1285912240
>>11516963The m*le body is designed to ejaculate ergo no emotional distress is possible.
>>11513645Imagine pic related but reverse the genders. Now you get to play as tomboys and buff women as you fight bad guys and other enemy types while having cute boys and handsome guys cheer you on.
>>11516941...a mortal sin. Goddess only approves of semen extraction via forcible milking without orgasm. This has been the natural way since the genetic enligtenment. A fully developed lady can secret enzymes that block male orgasm for up to a week from a single exposure. The seed is extracted via electrical stimulation of the prostate, via the penis, by the vagina during a lady's orgasm. Leaving a boy spent, yet frustrated.
>>11517418Love stuff like this. All sorts of creative ways to deny men their orgasm and leave them constantly wanting
>>11517300>while having cute boys and handsome guys cheer you on.Reminds me of a post I saw where two guys were cheering a college girl basketball game by barking like dogs on all fours. Obviously meant as a joke, but I loved the idea.
>>11517456>Men are dogs>Because dogs are loyal, subserviant, always happy to see you, cute, highly touchable, require discipline, and can't stop their bodies from broadcasting their moods
>>11515797>A man does not give a shit about whether he is on top, on bottom, or anywhere else, as long as he is able to fuck a woman. Hence why we already live in a matriarchy. Men do not have any sexual value except in reflection of the women they get.A man fucking another man can indeed be rape. But a woman pegging a man is not because the man is just "lucky" for the chance to have attention from a woman..>A prime example is the typical image of a big/muscular woman getting fucked by a smaller male, which is supposed to be "domineering and forceful" to the male… which… what? He is still fucking her.It depends if he's trying to escape or if he's being forcefully handled. If there's something for him to lose in a relationship with someone else, for example.
>>11516941Consent
How do you think RGR world would handle male homosexuality?
>>11517572Death. Or it's okay because women find it hot, idk.
Need some pics for hot reverse ryona. Ig I could look at regula ryona for inspiration but I don't want to.
>>11517572Honestly, they would fetishize it even more than IRL because it would be encouraged. Likewise, any contact with any girl or woman, no matter the age would be met with ultimate suspicion and over-protectiveness.
>>11517456There will also be scenes (kinda like in the original Uppers game) where if your playable tomboy/buff girl/"handsome woman" get punched by an enemy NPC in front of a group of cheering boys, they will get knocked into one of those boys face first onto either their chests or crotches. This will "power up" the playable character and she will continue fighting.>Reminds me of a post I saw where two guys were cheering a college girl basketball game by barking like dogs on all fours. Obviously meant as a joke, but I loved the idea.What post?
Why hasn't there been an action series in any type of medium (film, comic, manga, game, etc.,) where the main character is a badass sexy woman that kicks ass, has cool weapons, and fucks guys (and ONLY guys) like a chadette? Like imagine a female Duke Nukem that makes funny but cool one liners, blows up aliens, and gets laid with numerous handsome guys?
>>11517893Was a tweet. Can't find it
>>11517906Because unfortunately, most writers and hollywood types are retards and faggots who don't actually like women.They like the theoretical "idea" of a strong badass woman but they aren't actually attracted to them and believe that such women can only exist within strict retarded guidelines (dyke, troon, etc)
>>11518006They don't even like the idea of that, they like the idea making men look incompetent. Every single instance of that trope is always done in contrast to an incompetent man, because they can't write women without it being inreference to men.
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>>11516663>In any matriarchal society, cunnilingus has to be the most common form of sex right?It's the only kind of sex a man can initiate without taking off the legally required chastity cage.
i think this is yet another case of at least three different classes of fetish shoved into the same umbrella term
>>11518307Ooh, let's try guessing which three, I'll go first>Femdom>Sissification>Chastity
>>11518006>>11518013How gay do you have to be to not want to see a fictional cool badass woman fuck a fictional guy? They can just make the guy cool as well or at least capable of enduring the action like a champ instead of constantly putting him down or emasculating him.>>11518071Panty doesn't count anymore. Besides the fact that the manga shows her fucking a woman, Season 2 shows her that she's willing to fuck another woman and was seen fucking a couple in that "Barbarian Panty" episode. It sucks so much man.
>>11517906>female Duke NukemWhat kind of cool catchphrases would a female Duke Nukem have? I'm asking specifically for the ones relating to her clit and her ability to bang guys.
>>11513645The scenarios for this are always shit where women act like men. Which is just kinda gay if you think about it.>There are more women than menWell in that case the man has more sexual value than women.>But if the ratio is like 10-1 men would be so rare and won't be allowed to do anythingMaybe, but he'd be able to pick and choose and you still haven't dealt with the physical fact of a man easily overpowering any woman. If the rate is 10/20/50/100 to 1 the man can still single out any woman he doesn't like and the other women would not mind it. Plus women don't actually have the same camaraderie as men, they would easily allow the men to do whatever they want so long as they personally don't suffer.Counter intuitively if you want women to have more power than men you need to actually have less women. Because the real seat of female power is to use men as a proxy for force. Female domination is built on coercion and manipulation. It's also what makes it hot.Make the ration not too fucked maybe 2/3 men per woman.Make the woman able to self abort at will. Make her keep the sperm of a man for months inside of her and keeping it viable. Make her able to get pregnant on command, maybe even reproduce asexually. And you get the matriarchy.A woman doesn't like you, well she won't have your kids, you will be a genetic dead end. Currently about 40% of men have successfully reproduced, in this world it may be 20, 10% even. The really violent men would get weeded out in a few generations. The rest would have to not just secure access to a woman but also convince her to carry her kids over any other man's kids or her own. Not even isolation can guarantee you get anything. And because men and by extent their labor would be even cheaper in this world the women would be rich, dowry would come from the man's family not women's. Women would become the top of the social class. Piss off a woman and the whole society will fuck you up.
>>11518420>The scenarios for this are always shit where women act like men.>The scenarios for reversed gender roles are always shit where the gender roles are reversed.
>>11518421The thread is about multiple things numb nuts. Role reversal is pretty boring the a matriarchy isn't.
>>11518422>The matriarchy isn't boring>>11518420's scenario is just IRL in 15 years.
>>11518423>My totally not a free harem setting is soo original guys I swear. I even added peggingThe only difference between your average matriachy slop and your average patriachy slop is just the window dressing you somehow always end up with one man and many women.
>>11516615"If guys were meant to have agency then why is it so easy to control them? Now while you formulate your answer I will be taking off my top."
>>11517572>male homosexuality?Not a thing. If he can be made to ejaculate by a woman he is obviously into women. :)
>>11517572I like the idea of "Onanism" of any kind being seen as an immense evil in any Matriarchal world. Softcore "homosexuality", such as men kissing or touching eachother would be a fantasy for many women in a similar sense to how lesbians are fetishised by straight men in our world, however males ejaculating anywhere outside the vagina would be seen as severly reprehensible. My favourite (and the favourite of other anons ITT) Matriarchal world of imbalaced sex ratios would have males only be valued by how many Children they can sire, and a world with a much higher rate of infant mortality and infanticide would place a very high burden on males to produce children. Just like how people create huge moral panics over women crashing fertility rates by choosing careers instead of marriage, there would be a much greater moral panic of men crashing fertility rates by performing "Onanism", ejaculating outside of their wife's vagina.
do you think boys even dislike the way they're treated by women, not having a frame of reference for any other way to be treated? like, they're told they SHOULD want to dress sexy and show a lot of skin to attract women, and the culture around them DOES make them end up wanting that?
>>11518882That's actually a very good point.Men and women's understanding of 'what is hot' and 'what is not' is very much dictated by social understanding.Especially irl for women.So logically, in a matriarchy for men, what is desirable in fashion and treatment is very much dictated, if not consciously, by women.Also>>11507880New entry into the Angler world saga. This time with a little more immediately fun.https://sebsauvage.net/paste/?74f6e8cd42df0728#Gn++PsEm3PA0NKevimDBQ/PyK04aImpo3Zy5KcvYDa8=https://fast-poll.com/poll/f4337166Jeez it's been a while since I've updated this one. The story's sitting at like, 45 pages long now though.
Imagine getting isekai'd into an rgr world, but instead of the usual power fantasy, you become the rgr equivalent of a femcel because you don't meet the wildly different beauty standards
>>11518882For the most part, yes. Although you will always have those that go against the established norms.
>>11519123Oh yeah, that's the good stuff. The new girl was fantastic. I feel bad for Genevieve. She seems interesting but I LOVE dominant, aggressive girls.
>>11519123Seconding >>11519896 the new girl is gold.>Tall, sharply dressed, child celebrity chauvinist chick who sees something she wants and aggressively stakes her claimNeed to be in a passionate, tumultuous on-and-off relationship where we're constantly alternating between fighting and fucking while I silently hope in vain that if I just love and support her enough she'll get better
>>11519896I know.I kind of feel dirty, like I've written something vaguely NTR, but also know both girls are dangerous to him in their own right.>>11520091DESU, I wish I managed/remembered to write the lecturers and staff as more overtly chauvinist. Remember, the students are mostly welcoming to a male student trying it out. It's the staff who're most prejudiced.
>>11520378>I've written something vaguely NTRI'm gonna kill myself
Reminder that men do not have free will or a genuine desire to do anything but cum 24/7. If you like a guy as a woman, it's your responsibility to rape him dry before somebody else does. Otherwise you're just asking some other girl to take him away from you. If you don't want to be a cuckquean, get to raping. He'll learn to enjoy it eventually.
>>11519123Elaborate, impractical clothes for men would be back in,
>>11521057Elaborate, impractical, and often restrictive or daringly exposing in certain ways.But that's just the norm.Male fashion is entirely dictated by the female gaze, after all.Sure, you get male fashion designers, and males choosing their clothes to buy at stores. But they're both just working, completely without thought to it, with cuts and designs and configurations and philosophies on what's hot vs not, all set out by what women want to see.
Perhaps an erotic femdom matriarchy fantasy doesn't actually need to be that realistic. Maybe the first priority should be that it's a hot erotic fantasy, justifying it doesn't need as much effort. It's not really for people who want something realistic, it's for people who want that specific fantasy. Not everyone even has the same fantasies, so it's best to throw in some of everything and hope some stuff appeals to enough people.
>>11521523I wish this site wasn't too autistic for this to be the case
>>11521523Trying to work out how it could realistically work is an aid to imagining more situations/aspects of it though
>>11521641Yes, and you should take kinks X, Y, and Z that you like and then think about details to make it work. It can even help you to think of other kinks and neat ways to implement kinks or to say why it has to be done. Doing it that way would be doing it right. The most important thing is making it hot, realism is an after thought.You shouldn't just take one fetish or idea and then make it hyper realistic precluding many other fetishes and also making it so autistic that the whole society is unrealistically predictable, stagnant, boring, and/or depressing. Some of you really make kink boring, the most wild sex stuff imaginable, and you make it so lifeless you might as well throw out the world building entirely. If the world building makes kink so boring and depressing, then I'd rather say "fuck it, just make it about some kinky people in the real world, because at least in reality people do this for a real sexual thrill".
Men as decoration
>>11521673To expand on what I just said with an example. One of you liked reverse gender roles and men dressed as women. The problem was you made it so all men have to do it in this society. Well that might be realistic, but it creates real problems with the fantasy.1) It means dressing feminine is just a day to day thing, there is nothing erotic to in the character's feelings, nothing humiliating, nothing titialating, nothing new about it.2) Everyone is doing it. The character isn't special, or acting different, or drawing attention, or marking themselves as differently submissive or something. It's not treated by others as erotic or different or submissive. It's just normal.3) Saying men MUST be this way realistically means it has set standards, and you can't play around with it too much, you can't for instance punish people by feminizing, you can't make someone more feminine, you can't make it exciting because it's normal. You might even block out other interesting kinks that the story could have. If men have to wear dresses then men can't go naked, which means no naked punishments, no stripping naked, no naked public play, and so forth.Doing it this way is making kink boring, predictable, nonsexual, and preventing other interesting kinks from being used.
>>11521677I see literally nothing wrong with any of this. I don't need to constantly up the ante for RGR to get my gears grinding.
>>11521708Well hey, if what you're doing works for you, by all means keep doing it. We both can have different opinions.
>>11521440Naked Apron works no matter the circumstances
>>11518882men love being treated like shit, honestly. i've been nothing but a rude ass bitch to men my entire life, and they love me. it makes me think men are 100% mentally inferior and the world is currently the way it is due to their lack of intellectual abilities, and tendency to project. men shouldn't run the world. that's why the world is shit. we need to remove their rights and put them in cages where they belong since they can't seem to function in civilized society without resorting to rape and violence. this isn't even a fetish to me it's how i genuinely feel. men are so fucking stupid
>>11522113>we need to remove their rights:D>and put them in cagesD:
>>11521523Disagree. Worldbuilding is a way to engage with the fetish. Strict guidelines and rules make the worldbuilding more tricky and interesting. Obviously, we don't need a hyper realist world (I much prefer futuristic settings) but the point still stands.>>11522113Imagining that it's a woman typing this makes it so hot
Found this on /crpg/ of all places, how would you rate it?
>>11522184>have to dick down the oberleutnant for the war effortI do my part!
Is this tumblr post on to something good? How can we fulfill this more? one of the comments suggests that humanity did took after bonobos more. Thoughtful, vulnerable men are cute and utopian.
>>11522113>i've been nothing but a rude ass bitch to men my entire life, and they love me.Just the fact you're even conscious of that means you're better than average.>we need to remove their rights and put them in cagesAcceptable.
>>11522184Very nice/10Makes me think of the genderflipped primarchs art>tfw no space empress to march off to war and almost certainly get shot/corrupted/raped for>>11521675You know, now that I think about it, looking at these guys' washboard abs I wonder how much of matriarchy could stand to use the warping of men as a plot point. Boys sign onto the suspicious gene therapy to get the hot anime husbando physique, or accept a deal with a succubus to get the body of their dreams, or go on a quest to defeat a Demon Queen, something to make themselves feel stronger and better, but end up as chattel and rapetoys afterwards as part of the costs or consequences
>>11522657>You know, now that I think about it, looking at these guys' washboard abs I wonder how much of matriarchy could stand to use the warping of men as a plot point. Boys sign onto the suspicious gene therapy to get the hot anime husbando physique, or accept a deal with a succubus to get the body of their dreams, or go on a quest to defeat a Demon Queen, something to make themselves feel stronger and better, but end up as chattel and rapetoys afterwards as part of the costs or consequencesGood point. Personally, I'm more interested in their completely calm expression. Like this is just another day for them. Truly, pretty boys who go out to bars and parties as so used to being drugged, tied-up, or waking up in unfamiliar places that they just accept it as their reality.
>>11522657Genderbending badass male characters is the key to creating badass female characters.Imagine a woman with the personality of a shonen protagonist? Imagine a genderbent Berserk. Female Griffith raping a male Casca. Wait, would that still deliver the emotional weight as the regular scene?
Picrel implies that there was a female Dirlewanger.
>>11515797I don’t think you’re gonna get much mileage with this fetish if you don’t already have a pretty egalitarian understanding of sex. Men and women both love it and want it, they just have it differently. Domination has everything to do with who requests it, initiates it, guides it, etc. Penetration and blowjobs are only dominant inherently if you subscribe to the patriarchal idea of sex, even when blowjobs are a guy sitting there and a girl is given full control of his dick to do what she wants.
>>11513645>>11523303A lot of these scenarios come up with a distinct reason for why the scale tips heavily for women to take this role in sex, but my favorite scenarios are the ones where almost nothings different. Nothing overtly degrading, no real dehumanization. Just men are focused on children because they’re viewed as strong role models for holding down the fort, while the woman goes out to work and provides. Men are cultured to show their appreciation to their woman for helping them raise their kids, and will do anything she wants in bed to make her feel good.Women are a little bit stronger, not freakishly so like she’d break you in half, not that she’d ever want to if she could, but enough that she can handle you pretty easily in bed. When she wants to make you feel good, she pins you to the bed, she fondles your package under the covers, and makes out with you like 8 hours is too long to be holding you and feeling you up. It reminds you how well she can protect you deep down, she pays attention to what makes you squirm and moan, she’s done this so many times it takes no time to get both out of you. It makes you feel fuzzy, she’s so smart, so strong and protective of you and the kids, it makes you think of the women your daughters will grow up to be one day. Every time she kisses you, goes down on you, straddles you in bed and rides you just right, it’s a reminder from this incredible woman that she chose you to be that woman for. You love her the same, you’d do anything to make this woman happy, and what she wants is you. You let her have her way, you get the eyes and the quiet invitation to let her fuck your brains out, and it puts that fuzzy feeling in you before she’s even tossed you on the bed. You let her pump every load out of you that you’ve got, and find all the ways to make her cum (with a little hand guidance and breath control before you have her arching back too). Pic related, morning routine before work
>>11523305*Like an 8 hour shift is too long to be away from holding you and feeling you up
>>11523305Sounds most like "What if humans took after Bonobos instead of chimps"? kind of thinking, solving shit with sex. Or maybe "What if the Puritans were rightfully killed when landing in the new world"?
>>11523391Literally how? Bonobo females are weaker than males. Not to mention the described setting doesn't involve resolving conflicts with sex. And Bonobo females are the ones that are responsible for raising the babies.
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"If you think you can graduate this school without kissing my cunt, you are dead wrong"
>>11523305> be me, househusband> married 8 years, 2 kids> love every minute of it> wife leaves for work before sunrise, kisses me before she leaves> bed still smells like her> she works in sales, hits the gym out before work> she say it helps her sell cars more cars to the househusbands that come in> her paycheck and her muscles make me believe it, she could probably bench me> mfw> most of today was boring, keep track of finances, clean up our yard, tutor and cook for the kids> catch up with friend from high school, getting hitched soon> can tell he’s excited from how much he’s blushing> shows me the dress he’s trying for it and the honeymoon spots he’s looking at> reminds me of mine
>>11523527> remember standing at the altar trying not to cry, fail immediately> remember her walking down the aisle, still fail immediately> friend asks what marriage is like> tell him it’s mostly ordinary> laundry, grocery lists, arguing about paint colors, helping kids with homework> then every so often, she walks through the front door> 8 years, and your heart still skips> he tells me that’s cheesy> tell him to just wait, he’ll see> hear garage door open, wife’s home> gotta go> friend starts laughing> “you weren’t kidding”> you bet I wasn’t
>>11523537> front door opens> she’s carrying takeout> she tired I can tell, but she smiles when she sees us> asks how everyone’s day was> kids start talking over each other, jumping up for a hug from their mom> she’s got both of them> catches me staring> she read right through me, she smirks> “what?”> everything> kids steal the takeout and run to the kitchen> she holding me now> she’s warm, but firm, she pulls me in closer> she smells so good> been needing that since this morning> I laugh a little, head on her shoulder> I give her a kiss> even she’s blushing > “welcome home sweetheart”
>>11523391I'm going to AKSHUALLY you.Bonobos solving everything peacefully with sex is a completely made up myth by earlier academics who where projecting what they wanted to see.As it turns out, the behaviour they were seeing was high-value women pimping out lower-value women so they wouldn't have to have sex instead. They usually do that by threatening the babies' lifes of those lower value women. And needless to say, when it comes to other behaviours, they aren't doing much better than other types of monkeys&apes.
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>>11523555>>11523556GIWTWM
>>11523391It’s more like “what if the pressures on our ancestors made men at home and women on the hunt more favorable?”At that point masculinity would emphasize all the things that make men a good housewife (patience, empathy, grounded-ness, grace, stewardship), and femininity would emphasize all the traits that make women a good breadwinner and protector (courage, ambition, competence, leadership, confidence).Men and women are capable of both, but the roles they play shapes the kind of people they are, the roles they play in each other’s lives, and ultimately how they show and receive affection.It’s already a script in our world, finding a reason to flip it that’s similarly arbitrary and rooted in nature makes it feel real and closer to what I’d actually want.
>>11523606My ideal scenario is masculinity and femininity developing around different social roles from the beginning, and what we get is a world that’s always had men in the roles we’d call feminine in our universe, and vice versa. It not only flips the script on gender roles, but the kind of social friction and expectations for men and women that exists in the first place.Men at home who take care of the children, maintain a home, and make themselves attractive and sexually available to their spouse are celebrated. Women who take initiative, who’re a strong protective force in their husband’s life, who’re assertive and fill the needs of their husband are celebrated too. You end up with women who grow up expecting to pursue the men they love and are attracted to, love feeling needed, and take pride in being a source of security and support. Men grow up expecting to be pursued and cherished, make themselves available for romantic and sexual attention, take pride in maintaining what their wife protects, and love the feeling of being chosen and protected. Masculinity and femininity become something entirely new, but the relationships that come out of it still carry all the depth, expectations, anxieties, romantic rituals, and domestic intimacy that make gendered relationships interesting in the first place. It’s how you preserve all the small details of intimacy and domestic life that make it very potent (and gets my dick rock hard).Pic related: caveman femdom
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>>11523637Sounds like what some birds do
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>>11525513I want Zelda to get corrupted by trying to take the Triforce of Power out from Ganon and struggle against the newfound urge to brainwash the kingdom and rape Link into submission
>>11523391>What if humans took after Bonobos instead of chimpsMy turn to "um ackshually", we don't "take after" either.Chimps and Bonobos, the Panins, are collectively our closest living relative (and we are theirs; they are closer to us than they are to the other great apes), but we didn't come from them. Man and Pan diverged from a common ancestor some time in the late miocene, I believe about 7 million years ago. Pan likely diverged into P. troglodytes and P. paniscus around 1 million years ago.>Fun fact, the degree of sperm competition in P. troglodytes means the place in our comparative genomes where we vary the most is the male sex chromosome, and it's not even close.>>11513840my GF is more into playing with my nipples than I would have thought. It doesn't do a lot for me, it's very mood and arousal dependent, but she fuckin' loves flicking those things.
>>11516663>as a motivator to earn something by expanding and producing goods, women evolve to constantly be horny, all day every day>they need men to take care of this, going down on each other doesn't do it for them the same way>women are selected by men's preferences, grow taller, get bigger tits and bigger thighs>society is arranged around making is so that men can relieve their tensions as much as possible>women are allowed to bring their boyfriends to class in college>women in white collar jobs bring their husbands to work or get interns assigned to them>if a man hasn't been indentured into providing relief by college age, one of the college teachers will drag him into servitude and train him for that>if women are single for some reason, they keep male friends to ask to go down on them when it gets too bad>companies legally sell collars with remotes which when turn on, physically 'compel' the wearer to give head>coaches offer courses and workshops on how to brainwash or break your man into becoming a mindless cunnilingus machine
>>11526049>we vary the most is the male sex chromosome, and it's not even close.So you are saying women are more chimp than men are?
>>11521677>2) Everyone is doing it. The character isn't special, or acting different, or drawing attention, or marking themselves as differently submissive or something. It's not treated by others as erotic or different or submissive. It's just normal.I think that actually might be a big reason why people like this fantasy. It's exhausting to be different. It would be so fucking great if there was a social venue where being a (hetero, male) sub is just normal and not embarrassing.And I just completely disagree that it diminishes the narrative possibilities. It opens them up. When every story has to retread the same path of the couple dealing with the travails of being different, it not only reads as cliche but crowds out other traits the characters might have that drive the narrative. Which is something I was kind of trying to take advantage of with the story I was writing but the problem is I suck at writing lol
>>11525831Don't we all.
>>11523606>>11523637Personally, I prefer to set the scene in future. Put enough time between this and present and plenty can change, especially if artificial changes are possible... ...and yet I feel like mere societal change might be enough.>Humanity expands to the stars>Encounters another spacefaring civilization that has completly opposite sexual dynamics to humans>They could be simply stronger in body, have better technology... or they could simply be very attractive>Like, let's say Asari; a monogendered brood parasite species that functions by poaching males of other species to reproduce their own>Oddly enough, human military forces start "losing">A lot>Eventually, the secret gets out>As humanity starts losing more worlds, aliens approach earth, are able to transmit propaganda in solar system, etc>Regular feminine methods of societal control don't work in new paradigm>Women have to take up arms themselves or get collectively cucked into extinction>Hundred years of war later huwomanity is back on its feet, battles are won, colonies are getting retaken>Women are expected to be rough, violent and aggressive and capable of defending 'their' men>Men on meanwhile are dainty and lithe darlings that are both doted onto... and violently suppressed, least their unchecked libido jeopardizes woman's claim to the stars again
>>11526550Huh. I usually hate matriarchy stories that have the males just doted and taken care of simply because they're men while all the hot women kill each other for a crumb of cock.It reads too pathetic to me.But your premise is kind of interesting.
>>11526550Most of that is just sexy space babes.
>>11516419Imagine getting proposed to by an emigre of the Matriarchy while living in your normal, near future democratic republic. She starts training you subtly throughout the relationship, and the ultimate test is coming home to the Motherland, to "meet the parents," and you end up in the kitchen while your fiancé has drinks and "talks business with her mother." Could produce some pretty fun scenarios, fish out of water moments as your moderate 'training and conditioning' gets fully immersed in the alien social norms of the matriarchs around you, who see you as the 'catch' in need of training and being doted on properly and put in your place. So mandatory strip search at the airport, statutory required chastity cage with your fiancée having the key, being made to 'dress properly' with a collar and confined to domestic duties, and of course getting patronized by your GFs friends and family "Wow, anon is really smart, you're doing your best with him huh?"unf
>>11526946Indeed it is. I like to combine fetishes...... And besides, the thought of a monogendered species like Asari gets worse the more you think about it. In mass effect it's kind of muted by>Making them them ever-so enlightened and meshed with Citadel's established order>Capable of "procreating" with females of other species and among themselves>And the fact that there has been only few generations of contact. The impact that an tech-advanced species of really really hot women on human coupling are completly unthought of. A species with such dynamic has unearthly potential to be predatory in interstellar scale.And such outside pressure is a good way to create the script-flip needed to create a RGR society in my opinion. As good as just thinking what if women became arbitarily physically stronger at some point of history.
>>11526964Another option is to make humans the exotic space babe civilization for a rougher, more violent species.
>>11526969Like, humanity explores space and finds out that most alien species function on completly reverse sexual dynamic. For an example, they are orignally eusocial with each hive having hundreds of non-breeding females and few males born to choose one select female that mutates to a queen as result of sex. They can have sex without doing so... but their sex-drive is limited by a heat-cycle.The females are hard-shelled and insectile but bipedal... while the males are soft-shelled and have ceratine extensions that look suspiciously like hair.The species has reached sentience at same point where human stone age is located chronologically, and it's causing much societal stress. The 'queens' are basicly immobile and non-thinking egg factories, and society is ruled by males who control it by limiting drone's access to sex. Space piracy and bands of vagabond drone-females setting out on themselves is common phenomena.And that's where they meet humanity. A species of wonderfully soft boys that can get hard any time, are wonderfully soft (at least after bit of hazing), have very little inhibitions about having sex and are completly unable to trigger physiological change that turns a female drone into mindless breeding machine.
What's your take on femdommy magic systems? I like the idea that men get magic that affects non-living things and women get magic that affects living things, so women can easily overpower men but there are still things men can do that women can't (so women have reasons to force men to do things).
>>11515658Sometimes I think sex appeal in mainstream normie media can be gross, but seeing shit like this makes me want to put boobies in everything I touch just to spite these homofaggots at netflix and similar shitholes.
>>11528326The other way around would be a better set up. Mind control is a soft power. Men should be soft.
>>11528365It should be the way you say except men don't actually have mind control, it's just women thinking with their pussies.
>>11528423Ooooffffffff. HOT.So only women have powers and men are completely at their mercy and dependent on being found attractive by them. What if men DID have powers as well, but their entire power set revolved around increasing their attractiveness to women?Like a passive boost to their appearance or something?
>>11516400This one looks like cp and should be removed
>>11528436If you think fictional illustrations should be illegal, you are the one who should be removed.
>>11528687NTANo one said anything about legality. I don't think that anon should be arrested, free speech and all.I do however consider loli/shota to be gross and contrary to good taste and conscience, similar to things like zoophilia, and I don't think it should be allowed outside of its containment threads. There's a reason those exist, because no one wants to see that shit
>>11513645>What advantages would girls have and what disadvantages would boys have?They are smarter than boys
>>11515658>A male chauvinist is transported to a society This alone kinda ruins the story. Men who like this fantasy are not chauvinist (basically by definition) and won't be able to relate to the protagonist. And yeah that's the media these days, can't write a straight guy under 50 who isn't a complete asshole or a charity case.
>>11515658>>11529989Also aren't live action movies like these completely sexless and unhorny?
>>11529989I think mind breaking a male chauvinist into an obedient boy would be kinda hot
>>11515797>A man does not give a shit about whether he is on top, on bottom, or anywhere else, as long as he is able to fuck a woman. We derive the same pleasure from it—it is our natural drive.This isn't even close to true. Fetish threads wouldn't exist if it were true. It reads like the ranting of a femcel who hasn't been with a man in years. >But the denial of the one thing any man craves above anything else needs to be a major focus, in my mind."Nooooo you can't write sexy fantasies noooo everything has to be steeped in resentment and victorian sexism"Like fuck off, other men have different sexuality than you and enjoy different things >>11516663There's also outercourse, which in my experience meets the criteria of "usually feels better for the woman than for the man" and pretty much only works in cowgirl
>>11530730Oh, other thought on how to make the rape better (lol): just make everyone's genitalia bigger. For a guy, getting an erection robs you of your strength and having an orgasm leaves you lightheaded for days. There are even cases of men being hospitalized after losing consciousness due to sex. Childbirth on the other hand becomes much less painful (though I'm not sure why we bring this up because most rapists don't want to get caught and so would take birth control, which would probably also be true in our society if they could)
>>11530730>This isn't even close to true.Nta, but it's true.
>>11530659>>11529989I think there should be an opposite>Timid but quietly resentful and mildly misandrist femcel with unresolved "guy issues" gets transported to a world where women and men's roles and expectations are flipped>After realizing it she vows internally to not let this opportunity go to waste and that she will enjoy life amongst her new sisters while proving herself better than the stifling sexist pigs who (allegedly) made her old life hell>2 weeks later she's been deemed a lesbian by her peers for her "fruity masculine behavior", roped into attending weekly gym sessions with loud gymrat girls, and failed miserably in getting any dates from guys both on apps and face-to-face meetings>4 weeks later she's roofie'd a male coworker at a party and raping him senseless in the bathroom while crying and screaming about how all men are stupid whores that should learn their place
>>11530781and what advice to you think the gym studs would give to their fellow woman on how to get cock?
>>11530760Nta, but it's not and I am tired of coming into this thread to see this shit.This is the one fucking topic where I expect to see women doing the dirty in some active role, and not just being submissive and at most eagerly inviting while waiting for the guy to act, and also not a genital-mutilating sadist in the same shitty BDSM dom outfit and riding crop. Sometimes I think it would actually kill some motherfuckers to entertain the idea that sex or just romance can involve a dynamic between a man and woman beyond an ultra-horny coomer dude with nothing else to care about beyond getting his dick wet and some woman going (internally or vocally) "AAAAAAAHHHH NOOOO I HATE SEEEEX FUCK MY WORTHLESS CHUD LIFEEEEE"
>>11531108Calm down, it's just autists with no theory of mind
>>11531108>This is the one fucking topic where I expect to see women doing the dirty in some active role, and not just being submissive and at most eagerly inviting while waiting for the guy to actI agree. But if you read what I was replying to, my post was about "[men] not [giving] a shit about whether [they're] on top, on bottom, or anywhere else"Even the most maledom oriented, patriarchyfag isn't gonna give a shit if he's having sex in doggy style or cowgirl. Sex is sex. And sex as a concept favors men. Why tf would any man gaf about HOW he gets his dick wet?
>>11531164> sex as a concept favors mennta, hard disagree. This is just patriarchy “penetration=good, penetrated=bad” bullshit, or that sex isn’t equally pleasurable or desirable for women. Even if you don’t believe that, the whole point of this fetish is tipping the scale for women to have more pleasure, more desire, or see being penetrated as more dominant, to the point they’ll subjugate or dominate men to get what they want.
>>11531204>sex isn’t equally pleasurable or desirable for women.Not what I said. Sex is inherently in favor of the man because of pregnancies. Men are designed to have as much sex as they can with as many partners as possible. Low cost, high reward.Women can't do this because the moment they're impregnated, their whole body begins changing its MO for the purpose of gestating their baby. Pregnancy, in many ways permanently changes their body and is just extremely inconvenient for the woman. I think it's lazy writing to try and write an rgr story without addressing this and just writing the women as men.It also requires an insane amount of suspension of disbelief to see a pregnant woman as a threat to a man (Unless you're trying to go for a more, politically based matriarchy where no single woman is supposed to be seen as a threat to a man)
>>11531267There are many species where women are larger than men. I think a combination of that and women being as bi as they are would be an entertaining settting. Like iy would be common for women to have a gg and a bf. And it would be much easier for a man to get in a relationship, but he would be expectrd to serve and pamper his gfs.
>>11531267That's why you set RGR in sci-fi future. Artificial wombs tended by husbands is just the floor.
>>11531297What in the- BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED
>>11531164>sex as a concept favors men. Why tf would any man gaf about HOW he gets his dick wet?Any Matriarchal society is going to give women complete control over reproduction and saddle males with the burden of work that children require.'Getting your dick wet' in such a society could easily mean a guy is essentially getting jacked for $100,000, or getting his workload increased, his tasks lowered to more degrading duties.
I love the idea of husband/boy raids in fiction, one of my favorite ideas from "A brothers price"
>>11532329>I love the idea of husband/boy raids in fiction, one of my favorite ideas from "A brothers price"I can't stress how much I share your love of this idea. Not just the scenario itself, but the anthropological/culture and honestly maybe even evolutionary effects that run downstream from boy raids happening en masse are so fun to imagine.
If one leans into the fact that men can be "encouraged" via chemical means a lot of technicalities of a matriarchy diminish. Turns out viagra was not invented to let older men keep going but for young men to service their wives on the daily as their need are many. Old dudes who an perform are some serious shit that even school girls lust over and as such his wives keep on a short leash.
>>11532403Men in matriarchy take viagra the way women irl take birth control pills
>>11531164>Even the most maledom oriented, patriarchyfag isn't gonna give a shit if he's having sex in doggy style or cowgirl. Sex is sex.This is absurd. If you ever venture outside the liberal softboy bubble you'll find plenty of cases of men complaining about this. You will even hear stories of guys *going soft* during cowgirl because they are not into that. You could try actually talking to people and you will find that they are not how you imagine them to be. And pregnancy is not the major risk of rape in the modern day or the only major concern historically. This is common sense. A woman gets raped, but she doesn't conceive, so she's okay now? No. That's not how it works. Sex is psychological. Maybe you're too autistic to realize that, but it's true for like 98% of people, male or female. Also, you assume that sex means the guy will come. But if the woman has physical control, she may not choose to make him come. Men don't always make women come. Literally everything about your argument is just completely retarded. Touch grass.
>>11532403You also don't have to have external drugs for this, it could be a topical effect of pussy juice for example. Somehow I didn't think of that before.
>>11532419Your point would've been better made without the pegging
>>11523305My personal fantasy>kinda thisBut having women display agression more easily instead of having them just be stronger. Muscular men would still have protector roles, but it would be closer to what "dommy mommy" is irl.To have it still resemble our reality, women would have to be in positions of actual power (military, police, politics, etc), but since a dead woman can't give birth (as logic dictates) gender ratios would slightly favor women, and twins would be more common. A group of weaker, but more agressive women could reasonably cower a larger stronger man (physical overpowering wouldn't even be needed). A female led army would use either ranged tactics or strength in numbers. Casualties would be quickly replenished by the tweaks stated above.>picrel is THE GOLDEN STANDARD of this fetish, as other anons have posted here>>11523637>this dude gets itmany people focus on the "female domination" part of a RGR world, and i'm even starting to dislike the femdom term because it just lacks the depth I want. What I most fantasize about an RGR world would be the "power of seduction" that women have irl (without going into feminization or mind control shit). It's not just about making another person horny, a woman irl can decide whether or not a sexual act HAPPENS. The male part of this equation is assumed to consent by default, but the moment a woman wills the act to happen, it's like the script shifts (I know that there are discussions irl on whether a woman can actually rape [she can], and i'm taking the existance of those discussion to prove my point)
>>11531297holy fucking shit sauce
>>11532853>what I want is to be the sexy neighbor who "accidentally" walks around my house undressed and has the single girl next door schlicking to the view>to be the guy who receives countless ass pics on my dms and decides to give a dick pic to some lucky woman>being able to just grope a coworker's ass on a party and instead of it being seen as sexual assault, it's just me being very forward with my flirting>being the college student who goes to a female friend's birthday and decides to give her a "special gift">being the hot dad (widower) who showers with the doors open to seduce my gooner daughter>being the older brother who searches through my sister's porn collection and teases her with the "real stuff"I'm determined to learn to draw because this shit is so fucking rare
>>11532853Men are stronger than women and are the "protectors" but women are still the ones who fight in armies?>casualties would be quickly replenishedNo one thinks like this. Try telling this to the actual soldiers going into war. It's a hellish world where the women are treated as expendable.>picrel is THE GOLDEN STANDARD of this fetishAw heeeeeellll naw. This fetish is doomed if this is the consensus.>It's not just about making another person horny, a woman irl can decide whether or not a sexual act HAPPENS.But the individual woman in your setting is weaker than a man. The man only consents because it's a "social contract".>>11532857This seems more like standard male power fantasy stuff where "girl likes you".That third one is particularly egregious. What exactly makes it "matriarchal"?
>>11532919men suffer and are disposable in our world, but men are also the people in power -> our world is patriarchala matriarchy wouldn't mean that every woman is a winner, just that those on the top are female. The point of soldiers would be EXACTLY that they are expendable. War is hell and that is what I saw to justify its logistics. Sane men also don't willingly go to war, you just feed them propaganda untill they buy into it. What makes you think that people stop working like people just because it's General Iron Cunt ordering the 32nd Murder Mammaries Batallion, you might as well reinvent the IRL strategy of keeping people on the back to shoot deserters (instead of WH40k larping one could read about the NKVD)The third example was me trying to flip the dynamics of a secretary seducing her bossAs I said on my first text, I feel like there is a rift between people who just want to have their balls stomped on and people who actually want to see a world that mirrors our own, just with the gender roles reversedThe male protector could be better worded as caretaker, I admit it, but the concept of "would you like mommy to take care of you" becoming "would you like daddy to take care of you", would make it so instead of the "maternalisms" we have irl it would be "paternalisms". Fathers day gifts, "don't forget to call your dad", someone's dying thoughts would be of wanting to feel the strong arms of their father protecting them on with a hug.I prefer to use the term RGR just to steer clear of the>hurr durr my dominatrix isn't whipping me twice a day this isn't true matricarchyalso, kinda retarded to think that physical strentgh is the only thing that matters in power and manipulation. Think about an RGR man as a domesticated and docile horse. Sure, it might be stronger, but 5 wolves could easily INTIMIDATE it. Also, the nigger brain cannot comprehend social power>The tax man is weaker than me, if I beat his ass I won't have to deal with him
>>11532933>inb4 a faggot points out my typos>inb4 a faggot says "but a horse can kick someone's face off"Yes, BUT WE STILL FUCKING RIDE THEM>>11532919Women would like men just the same on an RGR world, even if the male power fantasy is to be liked by a woman, the reversal of gender roles (ie, having her be your boss, a sailor, a soldier on the rear lines,etc) is just something to spice it upwhat makes your insignificant maggot brain think that women would be dykes on a role reversal world. They would still like dick, masculine arms and abs. They would just be as OPENLY HORNY with it as we are with tits and ass irlWhile you can fantasize about "matriarchy", as in women are 9 feet tall roided up magic wielding, psionically charged gene stealing aliensI can also fantasize about a planetary defense guard wife returning from her deployement of crushing a worker rebellion and dedicating her pent up frustration on riding me until I give her a third set of twins. Yes, I'm taller and stronger then her, but if push comes to shove and I'm getting robbed while doing groceries with my kids, I wouldn't know the right side of a gun to point or how to use a knife without cutting myself, so I put my trust on her. My kids look up to me because I hold them in my arms until the fear goes away, and my wife can turn people into corpses.Gonna learn how to draw so I can at least support a full thread with just people who have similar interpretations of RGR. As it stands, both our visions still fit within the topic of the threadAt least I'm posting pics.
>>11532919on a quick note, I might have chosen the worst possible pic for my first postgonna de-escalate the argument because that random image makes no sense without the rest of the work. On this point even I would be angry if I saw that without contextTeisou Gyakuten Sekai (Chastity Reverse World) is a good non-h but still erotic readhttps://mangadex org/title/f6333441-3ee5-4ac9-a238-19ca5afe79af/teisou-gyakuten-sekai?tab=chapters
>>11532949more of the manga
>>11532853better to just show the next pages then try to explain with text
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>>11532933>>11532942Aight man, you seem very passionate about this so you do you.All I'll say is that arousal and eroticism is heavily influenced by the visual. It's very hard to visualize the specificities of the socio-political dance you're describing.Plus, absolute power dynamics are always hotter and easier to imagine than flimsier, flexible ones. A 6'3" dude following a 5'5" woman around is fine and cute but it's just not my cup of tea since I know it's just a similar dynamic as a dude taming and riding an elephant. At any point, the elephant can just snap and kill its owner. That's always gonna be at the back of my mind. I don't like thinking about women dying tbdesu.I also feel like most of these settings with men being subservient to women but still retaining their physical advantages are used as setups for patriarchal societies>women ruled the world and filled the minds of men with lies>then rose the great hero Anon Faggotson who challenged the queen in one on one combat and brutally raped her in front of her subjects>he thus set ablaze the hearts of all the men of the land who corrected their mistresses in their misbeliefsOne last thing I have to add is that wanting to be pursued and cared for like a delicate flower by women while also being stronger than them is having your cake and eating it too. It's off.>>11532949I've read a bit of it. It's just not very good. Just turns into generic male fantasy with the addition of the dude. I think the Angler Syndrome story is the Gold Standard for this fetish.You should definitely try drawing btw.I'm a semi-decent artist myself. If you guys have interesting ideas, I'd love to try drawing it.
>>11515821What war did women win where they forced men to stop oppressing them and start treating them as equals? What mass death of men event happened where women gained all the power in society so that men had no choice but to be fair and honorable to women in all things?Oh wait that is right women did not kill there way to power in our reality. They discussed and reasoned with men that human dignity and the sacredness of human life in all of its forms should be respected at all times. That human existence is made better and more worthy when everyone is treated as a human being and not slaves to be used and abused for the fun and profit of psychotics or the criminally insane.The freedom and equality under the law you as a woman has right now was not bought with the blood of your mother. But with her tears and reason as your father excepted that she was right and that the only just and honorable thing he could do was except her requests for justices and peace.When people say that women or blacks fought and died for there freedom and rights and that they overthrew the white man and his power. I always know deep down in my soul that they are lying and that they know that they are lying to me but never to themselves. As they all think they have enough personal power and freedom that they can strip white men's power and freedom from them by ether further manipulation or even force at this point in time.So i guess what i am saying is FUCK YOU FEM NAZI!!!
>>11515840>>11515848I love this setting idea.>deliciously unfairMy thoughts exactly.
Something I like in these sort of settings but one I never see (maybe i'm not looking hard enough) is the reversal take on free use. Conjure up any pre-text you like for that sort of scenario but having a woman pull a dudes underwear off and going for a ride while he is just trying to watch the TV or something is kinda neat to me. Hell in the workplace it works even better as it is written into the contract that men are required to offer stress relief as part of their terms of employment. Now admittedly the whole "still doing things while sex is happening" gets a little convoluted just from the mechanical aspect of it but hey reality be damned he is to serve her so whatever, you're not getting that report done this morning and that is your problem to deal with, steve.
>>11532329goated recommendation, started reading today and honestly struggled to put the book down
Wild to me the amount of these that have gone by an nobody has once mentioned the Bene Gesserit or Honored Matres. Like guys, the last two books in Dune are pretty much made for us. Go check them out, no spoilers but.>Spacefaring civilizations ruled by genetically advanced superwomen who use hyperadvanced psycho-sexual manipulation to control the population>The final form of human civilization’s evolution. A perfected socio-biological system.Cracks the books, fellas
>>11533866>Read DUNC, broNice try, /lit/
>>11533898Then just read the wiki, dumbo. The point is the idea is exactly what a matriarchal society could look like. People in here say many things found those books without seeming to know they are.
>>11533292A much better "male rarity" story than these gender ratio manga have been pumping out recently.>>11532329Raiding and pillaging always included acquiring sexual relief.
