Themed Questions:>How's Marriage/Matching making done in your world(markets, Dating, Arranged, etc.)?>What would the Ideal Master/Slave relationship be like?>Picture a "day in the life of" for "newlyweds"?>Are women viewed legally as pets, slaves, 2nd Class, etc?Last Thread>>11456860Archives:https://archived.moe/d/search/subject/Patriarchy/https://desuarchive.org/d/search/subject/Patriarchy/Disclaimer:This thread is for fetishizing a patriarchy where it's biological men being Doms and biological Women as Subs
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>>11514876Gems from last thread:>Extracurricular Date Events>Designed to create a more "natural" pairing experience, Finishing Schools will introduce girls to potential suitors on a controlled envioment, so the girl becomes attracted to her buyer on a much more innocent, deeper level.>Before even meeting a suitor, the girls are given love story short novels to read on language classes, and encouraged to imagine themselves as the protagonists, as they are introduced to the stimulation of their Chastity Belts.>The girls start receiving letters from their arranged suitors, and even though they cannot see them yet, are conditioned to endure their horniness and frustration as they respond back, guided to create a rapport through writing.>Then, small cafe meetings where the suitor can leave small gifts can happen, where both individuals can already talk about common likes and dislikes, as the girl is edged throughout the event.>The meetings gradually become longer and more private, and the girl is guided to become more attached and desperate for contact as the pairing goes on.>Eventually, the suitor can test if the girl has attached herself enough to him to become obedient, by making requests at her.>Once he asks her for her bra, the connection is all but assured, as she is willing to become available and vulnerable to him.>She also loses one of the last avenues of self soothing available to her, as her nipples are then glued with pasties by her new Master, in preparation for the final sale.>The last nights she spends at the Finishing School before Graduation and Submission become unbearable, as she soaks through her bed, with no chance for relief.
>>11514877>be a young man growing up in the patriarchy>have my pick of girls my age from the local finishing school, who will serve as my first personal servant and eternally loyal companion>try to talk to them about human things sometimes, if they like games or music or something, but no>they are impossibly horny, every single one of them>the only thing that exists in their head is me and their future being crushed underneath my boot>some of them even start crying when I try to talk about anything else>most of the variance is physical, they all seem to be insane in a similar way, but some slightly more than most>honestly they are cute but...for sure just things>the one who finally impressed me enough to get my brand kept on begging to be choked by my "strong, superior hands" whereas the rest of the girls were nervous enough to stop and beg for something else after the first few times>she seems at least a little bit different, maybe I'll name her chokey or something
>>11514878>The moment She receives that first courting letter, her "self soothing" options are slowly but surely cut down.>She is made to imagine Married life in a Harem, surrounded by other girls in Ettiquette classes.>She writes endless essays in Feminine Script for Language class about the feelings of heroines in Love novels.>Fitness class has her take strange poses for flexibility and endurance.>She meets her Suitor´s other Wives, Daughters, Mother, and Aunts in endless interviews before seeing him. her flaws polished off by soft female hands.>And the Chastity belt, which she had learned to ignore, stirs with life, new aditaments inserted and exchanged between cleaning checkups.>At night, when she should be most private, she finds her strength depleted and attempts to sleep, only for strange dreams to form in her mind, dreams of perverted unbelievable acts.
>>11514879>reading up on how exactly they brainwash these things i'm a bit less surprised>they're all pretty similar by design, their minds are completely destroyed in order to maximize attachment>as the one I like draws closer to me she spends a large amount of her day learning everything about me, so that when she begins to serve she will start with the equivalent of personalized service training>exchanging letters with her, trying to figure out just how to put my personal touch on her little mind, those dreams are the perfect opportunity>of course I am actively dominating her very soul, and the dreams are proof of that>"All of that depravity you see is your actual future, slave.">these creatures have a ceremony where they are delivered to their new Master, chastity belt unlocked for the first time in their life and handed over to the man who controls that life from now on>I hear it's basically impossible for them to not be completely overwhelmed by emotions when they finally experience that day>it's good to own a lot more than just a girls body
>"Hey, what does this button do?">*Screams of pure sexual tension, intense rattling, high intensity bodily fluid spraying*>"OoOooh, UuUuuuUh..." *hands locking in velociraptor position and shaking* "I... I was just trying to entertain myself!">Marsh Frog Conservatory>Some girls are just born... Different.>Despite, or perhaps because of the endless unethical, unsustainable, poisoning, and unenviromental effort to turn the feminine form into submissive perfection, sometimes a gene just clicks the wrong way.>But there is beauty in the flawed and unexpected, so a place was established to nourish those idiot-savants, differently abled, ADHD stricken and other diversity minded girls.>More tightly controlled than other women, Marsh Frog girls are, to a cunt, all perfectly scuplted beauties.>Efforts are made to make sure that enough of their Stimming and Recreational sessions are sublimated into excersise, and sport, and since their malfunctions forbid them forever from touching a flame, their diets are controlled.>Depending on their level of Autism, careful care is also put into choosing their special interest for them.>Some could wear a suit and lead a team of Lawyers or Executives, as long as they dont get distracted by the color red, while others may be geniuses in Slapstick comedy, as long as they are the ones getting slapped by the consequences of their own actions.>Just like their intellectual range, their libido may not work on the usual ranges of frustration and climax that leash other women to Patriarchy, so Belting and Edging is done in a case by case scenario.>If it leads to creating a useful product, even open Lesbianism and Alternative Sexualities are tolerated and encouraged to these girls.>The sale of these girls is tightly controlled, as they are chaotic and unpredictable. An experienced Master could turn one of these girls into a perfect Homemaker, just as much as an inexperienced one could wake up one day on a Household populated by parrots.
>>11514868>Women viewed legally as petsThis should be the Default for women, it's just assumed they cant take care of themselves.So for their own good all women are collared and treated like pets not responsible for their actions and no freedom at all.Schooling and education designed to pick out women of higher intellect but most will be domestic, sexual and breeding slaves.>>11515854>intellectual range, their libido may not work on the usual rangesKind of relating to >>11513052 from last thread but.Like the idea of having an Elite/special class of women being physically and intellectually above the norm.More freedoms then other slaves certainly less then men. The types of women that might start feminist movements.But instead they're picked out and made into the "right hand Bitches" of the patriarchy.Gender traitors who use their privilege to keep other women in line and are rewarded for it.Plus these women are for masters who want women that aren't just sex crazed or airheaded bimbos
>>11515854>enslaving neurodivergent girls is a acquired taste>their minds are still as simple as any other slave, but immensely more chaotic>should they be properly trained however, their devotion is nearly endless>obsession with Master comes far more quickly to these slaves, and easily grows more intense>it's recommended to give them a outlet since their hyperfixation will always come back to you in some way, although it often manifests in other ways>drawing is a highly recommended one>most slaves will have plenty of tears about how they aren't the perfect artist that Master deserves for the rest of their service, but the art produced depicting their submission to Master in a variety of situations and worlds is always appreciated>one of the best slave artists is such a creature, highly detailed scenes of her suffering for her Master in a environment or situation that always involve a equally as detailed train in some way>such girls require a lot of patience>slave ethics laws require that disposal and/or abandonment of such property by it's Master be approved by government review, as their attachment is so intense they often cannot meaningfully be retrained or rehomed>most of their owners just need a class in proper handling of them in order to extract highly devoted service
>reading about sati practice in IndiaTruth really is stranger than fiction.
>>11516130>SatiSee, that is why women should hurry and surrender. Even our most Sadist fantasies are merciful to them.>>11515963>>11515966Only for experienced Masters, you get an Idiot-Savant in Corporate management, who in previous ages where marital rape was a thing would be called a frigid bitch, but in these enlightened era, it is just understood that her restart button simply lies at the portio, and every time she makes mistakes, you must simply press the button forcefully and consecutively.She does not wear a belt, because she is just incapable of stimulating herself, but understands that the other bitches in your household should be left crawling up the walls in frustration for optimal performance, and her current thrill consists on arranging release sessions on your girls in extremely fertile days, since "Increasing the amount of offspring to offer to the state is a low cost way to improve society in the long term."
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>>11515966>hyperfixation will always come back to you in some way, although it often manifests in other waysCould direct it into lewd/practical avenues, have her educated and working in a fertility clinic.She's meticulous with watching women's cycles for natural breeding or she's a lab bunny working on IVF.Patriarchy finds a place for women to belong, especially if she's got a good brain in her>>11516203>ages where marital rape was a thing would be called a frigid bitchI'd assume patriarchy does away with the idea of consent for women.Who, Where and When women are fucked is entirely up to their owner.Also brings up funny things like how women can't "cheat" on their masters since women aren't responsible for their actions.It's the fault of the home wrecker man for taking advantage of an overly trusting woman.Just natural for a slave to obey her betters, and of course rape is now a form of property crime.>Increasing the amount of offspring to offer>improve society in the long termIronic that Feminism pushing women from their natural role has turned them into inferior men.Genuinely praising women for sexuality, fertility and motherhood seems like a far better life for women.Something that comes naturally for most women...Also the implication of there being breeding programs the feed slave markets is kinda hot.
>>11516254>Marsh Frog Conservatory, First Year, Girlbusiness Mama-gement Gifted Program Student, Rio.>"I am glad to be able to skip being belted. It is unbelievable how many girls risk getting a yeast infection by touching themselves, I simply cannot do it. I even dropped out of swimming classes the moment I could smell the yeasty-ness in other girls.">Marsh Frog Conservatory, Second Year, Girlbusiness Mama-gement Gifted Program Student, Rio.>"I do declare these extra mandatory courses on pregnancy and child rearing to be ilogical. When they dumbed down economics to include home budgeting, and home projects, I held my tongue, but now my business degree is being threatened.">Marsh Frog Conservatory, Third Year, Girlbiusness Mama-gement Gifted Program Student, Rio.>"Finally, my Internship program has been approved! I will get practical experience and mentorship from an investor willing to give me a job after graduation. It is only logical, after all the letters I sent to the Headmistress denouncing my Lecturers.">Marsh Frog Conservatory, Graduation Ceremony, Girlbusiness Mama-gement Gifted Program Student, Rio.>"My ruins lay down on this bed, like the carved figure of Coyolxauhqui. What is the most logical action? The one my Master demands of me. What is my goal? For my Master to embrace me again in this way...">Marsh Frog Conservatory, Post Studies Career, Girlbusiness Mama-gement Gifted Program Graduate, Rio.>"And so, with careful investment, we should be able to send another daughter to an Internship to Almond Blossom. You know... I have reached the stable period... Can you not find it in your heart... To unlock me... And make use of me..."
What's the most patriarchal society in history?
The sati practice sounds like something I would have to firmly tell a yandere slave that she isn't allowed to do. Women tend to live longer on average so a slave girl that outlives her Master is a relatively common occurrence, and after a lifetime of servitude she's for sure going to be obsessive enough to want to sacrifice herself at Master's funeral. Despite how upsetting that would actually be to all the people attending.It's why its important to set out who gets ownership of your slave in your will. Maybe a trusted friend who can do their best to still have her be in service, but they're likely to be unsalvageable after losing their Master. Being sold to the mines after a few months spent just screaming and crying is unfortunately pretty common. A healthy 20 year old can rarely survive more than a year down there, so a old and tortured slave won't have long until she can reunite with her Master, and still honour him by serving until her last breath.
>>11516537>Girlbusiness Mama-gement Gifted ProgramPerfect way to turn a women to a switch.Domineering women directing that energy at those below them, a real slave driver.Put in charge of other women she'll push them to please her master.She might even lord her power over men, being just an extension of her master's will.But the moment Her master pulls her leash she's on her knees...>send another daughter to an Internship to Almond BlossomWomen with breeding fetish is the ideal , even better when society encourages it.Mothers pride themselves on giving master daughters to sell at auction and strong male heirs!>>11516967>What's the most patriarchal society in history?Rome had a odd system of dealing with slavery.Free men being monogamous with their wives and being head of household.But also owning slave women, using them sexual and even breeding them was an accepted norm.Just with strict boundaries of wife born vs slave born offspring.Many wives even expected that their husband buy slave women as domestic servants.With a "men will be men" attitude towards their hubby fucking the house slaves.So they didn't take it as far with slaves like these threads, some anons simply enslaving all women
>>11517129>Girl personalities depending the program at Marsh Frog Conservatory>Business Management>Complete Germaphobe. Increased Sensitivity to Smell. No sexual curiousity. Will become perma-horny the moment she smells the overripened fruit perfume of pregnancy and breast milk on her own body.>Arts and Humanities>Born without a sense of self preservation. Natural Tomboy. No brain to mouth filter. No concept of cleanliness.>Biology and Medical practice.>Eager to experiment motherhood, no practical experience. Snow White Animal Rapport powers. >Math and Physics Research>Bookshy nerd. Trembling cute hamster aura. Will record the audio of her deflowering session and play it on loop in her earphones to cure the anxiety in her head.
>Girls start school as early as possible. They're treated equally to men at first, but within weeks the stupid ones flunk out>Once a girl flunks out she's given her slave mark (a tattoo would grow strangely) and all privileges are revoked>Girls that manage to make it through elementary school are quite gifted (~15% remain in school)>At this point tests and classes are intentionally made too difficult to MAKE them start failing>With each failure more privileges are taken away. Eating sweets? Masturbation? Talking to men as equals? Gone with each next failure.>Most give up and become slaves themselves, managing flunkies (~5% remain in school)>Females that graduate are the trophy wives and the most desirable.>Authority goes: Master -> right hand man (or men) -> prized wife* -> employed men -> head slave -> management slaves -> slaves>The only reason the prized wife is above employed men is because she has the safety and backing of her husband. If he's unable to actively support her, she can be ordered around like any other woman
>>11517266I'm always a fan of ideas like this. Give me exhausted, brilliant women watching their opportunities wilt away and slowly coming to accept that no matter what they achieve they need a man.Honestly it's why I prefer when settings do the kind of Roman thing that >>11517129Discussed where there are citizen women who are still beholden entirely to men's whims, either a direct husband or master, or a more impersonal situation, and then there's slaves.It's not seen as "failure" to become a slave, that's normal for girls, but there will still be many who see the slim chance at being a "person" and make it their life goal.Modern slaves do modern jobs anyway, so for every housemaid sex pet you likely own a few office ladies of varying education levels, maybe a middle manager type or two, plus the "True Wife" you pick which for many would be intelligent enough to manage things in your stead.Authority and achievement just earns more scrutiny, a drop out house slave gets paddled for breaking a plate but otherwise is seen as "just a female" an educated and trained woman(citizen or otherwise) will be treated much harsher should she fail or resist.
>>11517231>Women in Professional yet feminine workCute, yet very subversive towards Professional women.Patriarchy has ulterior motive for allowing some women to be educated or elevated above "just another bitch"If she's not sold direct to a master then working "normal" jobs is just advertising herself for sale.Even in rare cases when women are allowed carriers it's expected and encouraged for women to take breeding years off from work.Think trope of "Gap years in Europe to find myself" but the /d/ version.>>11517266>within weeks the stupid ones flunk out>flunks out she's given her slave markLove the idea of failing out of education is so expected for women that they develop Anti-intellectualism.It's waste to prep for higher education, better to have domestic or sexual skills.Women getting onboard with the Easy life, open your legs for men then be rewarded and cared for.>>11517266>>11517822>Females that graduate are the trophy wives>become a slave, that's normal for girlsPulling from the Roman influence, majority of women would be slaves not that it's seen as a failing on their part.Elite class of citizen women with slaves to support them.But also the odd dynamic of citizen women as wives being rare, yet everyman owns slave wives.Just funny to see a setup where women actively support female enslavement as both free and slave women have something to gain from the system.Gifted women with ability given privileges while slaves wear the collar "for their own good".
How many of you would legitimately be willing to get into a master-slave dynamic? Where the man has full authority over his partner (wife, gf, whatever)Would it need to be consensual?Would it be just in the bedroom, just in private, or publicly known?What would this dynamic look like?Or is this all just fantasy you goon to?
>>11518308>How many of you would legitimately be willing to get into a master-slave dynamic? Where the man has full authority over his partner (wife, gf, whatever)Isn't that why we are all here?>Would it need to be consensual?For legal purposes it needs to be consensual. Now if you were to make legal for women to be property, that's a different story. You'd be surprised how many women in real life fantasize about something like that.Plus there are a lot of fun things to do with a consensual slave that would be a mess with a non-consensual one.>Would it be just in the bedroom, just in private, or publicly known?I don't think it would necessarily need to be publicly known. Maybe you could have a way to "brand" your slave in public, like a collar, a bracelet or something like that. So she feels owned withouth giving away the whole thing.>What would this dynamic look like?I don't think there's a standart way to look at this. There's so many ways to control a woman. Clothes, hair styles, body modifications, behaviour, domestic training, sexual conditioning...As I see it, the slave should be able to surrender certain aspects of her life to the master, and from there you both should be able to develop a satisfying Master-slave dynamic. Always with the pleasure of the Master in mind, of course.
>>11518308Blogposting about real life stuff in the past was a big mistake, but yeah I always knew I wanted a slave and not a wife. Dominating someones entire soul was always the goal.>Would it need to be consensual?Yeah obviously. There is something to be said about how slaves often fear abandonment, and telling them that they are your property and thus their relationship with you is nonnegotiable would help assuage their fear that they will ever be without Master, but eh, should she ever truly want to escape and be free its not right at all to stop her. >Would it be just in the bedroom, just in private, or publicly known?I would strive for it consuming all of their lives, but that might always be a bit of a fantasy. Reality would get in the way, and I don't really want to force a slave to give up her friends and parade her around naked infront of them unless its something that I know all of them would be okay with. Even wearing a collar out in public, I wouldn't order it unless I was positive she could endure it, and the same goes for the rest of her humanity that she surrenders to me.>What would this dynamic look like?Progressively more control taken over her life, when Master is convinced that she is ready for it, not when she claims she is. Plenty of slaves get just a drop of being dominated and want to just surge ahead and ruin their entire life in pursuit of how it made them feel, despite the fact their life is Master's property too. Master knows best, and this includes making her live the best possible life in support of his.Day one for being enslaved could look like visiting Master in something that would be a bit like a date, except she strips naked upon entering his home, discusses suggestions for how to style her hair and makeup to be more pleasing to him, what clothes to wear for when they do need to leave his home, and spends her date with Master kneeling on the floor infront of his chair while they chat.
>>11518308> How many of you would legitimately be willing to get into a master-slave dynamic?Some already are> Would it need to be consensual?Women are passive, men are active. Consent is only for those with agency, who create order. Women don't create order, they consume it (and are hungry for it). They are chaotic, and must have order imposed on them. What men need from women is not consent, but compliance. What women need from men is a structure to mold themselves around, and therefore they do not need (nor really want) freedom.> Would it be just in the bedroom, just in private, or publicly known?As much as I could get away with.> What would this dynamic look like?Final veto on any decision, only delegating what I don't care about (and only for as long as I don't care).Open grooming of their mind and body to my desires.> Or is this all just fantasy you goon to?This is the future we are getting, in the real world, one way or another.
>>11518308>What would this dynamic look like?Women should be loved, protected and controlled. But taken to the natural extreme of slavery.No misogynistic cruelty, instead there's aspects of fertility worship/praise of women as breeders.Or have women in suitably feminine roles including sex work it's "women knowing their place".>it need to be consensual?A "yes" in the way of women being groomed into it.Their mothers and society at large telling them slavery & obedience is normal.Any Nos just seen as women going though a phase or begging for attention.>in the bedroom, just in private, or publicly known?Collars with slave tags displaying her name, master and owner contact info just like a pet.Additional color tag shows sexual status, master's use only, sex worker, free use, chaste, etc.Manner of dress is up to her master but should fit her status
>>11518308>is this all just fantasy you goon to?Yes. Both men and women fantasise about things that they wouldn't want to do or happen in real life.
I'd want a few slaves:My rapemeat. A huge masochist that loves to get subjected to brutal sex and punishment (secret marking/scarring fetish, she won't last more than a few years before I'd need a replacement)My bedwarmer. A girl who's intellectual enough to have a decent conversation with, the one I most enjoy being around. The prize wifeMy head maid. An older woman who knows her place but just really wants to make her master feel safe and relaxedSlaves-in-training. A number of girls whom I'm training to be slaves. Most will be sold to other Masters, but a few that I take a liking to will join my household.Household maids. The general slaves that do all the gruntwork around my property. Each called to my bedroom about once a month (only time they're allowed sexual gratification)Anal whore. My party favor girl. A vaginal virgin by my command. To be lent out to friends and associatesPersonal assistant. The one who knows my schedule like she knows the bottom of my foot. By my side 24/7 but practically invisible. Never speaks unless absolutely necessary. My masseuse, barber, foot stool, and whatever else I need her to be.What am I missing, bros?
>>11520907>Most will be sold to other Masters>Anal whore. My party favor girl. A vaginal virgin by my command. To be lent out to friends and associatesFaggot.
>>11520937Think of it this way: The most/only valuable thing about a woman is her ability to bear children. You have enough pussies to use as you will, another makes no difference. So, take that away (and the normal pleasure that comes with it) and you're left with a girl with no value and no reason to exist. But still, you make her useful. Her very existence comes from to your mercy and desire. You own the body, the mind, the soul, AND the purpose of this slave.Combine that with the fact that she still has the child-bearing organs, and your hold on her is even stronger. She actively chooses to ignore her cunt because you told her to.You also forgot to submit an image on this imageboardAs an aside, a mother who's sexually replaced by her daughter would be hot as hell. Especially if you make her watch.
>>11520907>My bedwarmer. A girl who's intellectual... The prize wife>Other whores to be lent out to friends and associatesLove these kind of Whores & wives type dynamics./D/ traditional monogamy as wives give legitimate male hiers and daughters for marriages(Spares enslaved)Your wife might even oversee the whoring out and breeding of household slaves.Slave women seen more like pets/property so wifely duties also covers managing slaves.>>11521112>most valuable thing about a woman is her ability to bear children>mother who's sexually replaced by her daughterEven better if it's also women helping to perpetuate the system.Wives raise their daughters to be married off, house slaves breed and raise master's perfect pets.Patriarchy creates women that see sexual use as a normal part of life regardless of status.Being used by men is second nature, even to the point rape/women's consent is changed within the patriarchy
>>11518308>Or is this all just fantasy you goon to?For me the process was like this:Phase 1: horrified and disgusted by patriarchy and anti feminism, argue about how "stupid" it is.Phase 2: involuntary masturbation (it activates my amygdyla) feel really bad about it afterwords.Phase 3: "it's just a fetish" cope phase. Tell myself all women have rape fantasies, it doesn't mean i'm not a feminist IRL.Phase 4: get into consensual maledom and ERP, begin talking to men in the LGD/ anti-feminist space. Begin to understand and sympathize with the male perspective more. Even though i don't agree with it, I have to engage with their point of view.Phase 5: conservative vibe-shift in the west begins to accellerate and become undeniable. As abortion rights are overruled by the Supreme Court and DEI/ Me Too begins to recede it becomes obvious that people are turning against feminism. I investigate why, and begin to get redpilled about my own gender.Phase 6: become fully redpilled radical anti feminist gender traitor. Realize women are biologically hard wired to need strict control and ownership by men, and that humanity needs to return to this basic organizing principal to survive.So yeah eventually I realized that my love of patriarchy, maledom, pregnancy, LGD, etc wasn't just a fetish, it was my entire sexuality, and this is secretly true of the vast majority of women.
>>11518847>This is the future we are getting, in the real world, one way or another.It's been thrilling to see how rapidly men are becoming natalist and anti women's rights on the internet, and the media only just beginning to catch on. At first it was just some niche christian conservative religious figures advocating it, but now it's becoming more widely accepted that human civilization simply can't endure if women have the freedome to control when we reproduce.Meanwhile, the sudden rise of AI is obsoleting college-- where women had established a chokehold, and as time goes on as robotics becomes advanced going to crater the value of sex work. At the same time, the slow death of legalist, technocratic liberal democratic governance heralds a new age of armed conflict where men will naturally regain their prominence due to their proximity/control over the means of production as well as their necessary role in warfare.The question is not if, but how. Either the developed world will revoke women's rights and enforce birth quotas, or they will be supplanted by a human tide of africans, Arabs, central and south asians who already follow strict religious patriarchal social codes. Either way, the reconnect of women is already underway, whether it takes 50, 100, or 200 years. Although we can all hope for some surprising rapid acceleration in the next few decades.My guess is that china will be the first developed state to Crack down on women, with russia, east asia, the AmeAsia, and Europe gradually following suit like dominos.
>>11521322What would your recommendation be to corru- I mean teach any given feminist young woman?Say I have a girlfriend whose perfect. Well, except for being a bit too self-reliant and misandrist. How would I help her evolve past those delusions?
>>11521368These types of shifts play out over years or decades. No woman just abandons beliefs held at the drop of a hat. The go to strategy for liberal/queer women is to normalize everything through kink, normalize degenerate sexuality, commodification of feminity, social media addiction, and behavioral reinforcement via financial incentive. Always let women set the pace. Give us freedom, and we'll trade it in for glorified slavery every time.For liberal/queer women the way to change our minds isn't through discourse, it's with an onlyfans account, social media. For shy girls, things like DnD, AO3, or just ERP can be an in.But if a woman is 20 and a feminist, you have your work cut out for you. You essentially just have to wait for her to turn 30, and then start advocating for male supremacy and patriarchy after hormonal aging and fatigue have softened her resistance.
>>11521419Meant to mention AI, many women can be susceptible to having our beliefs warped by talking to chat bots, as silly as that sounds, even if we have a general idea of how it works. This is because women are programmed to reciprocate emotional communication and are often disinterested if not totally ignorant of how technology actually works
>>11521112Cuckshit is a disgusting faggot safe horny fetish. That woman belongs to you. Other men can get their own.Even a worthless beaten up woman can still be of use to you, if only by bearing your children.As an aside, I don't like BDSM. Patriarchy is quite a broad fetish that just means that men are in charge. The point isn't to deliberately make women miserable even to your own detriment.
>>11522599Imagine being in a thread about Patriarchy and being upset that women are used how a man wants, like an object.>>CuckshitCucking requires that you have invested emotional interest in a girl. Having a one-night-stand with some whore who then fucks another guy doesn't make you a cuck. In this case, the anal-only girl would be one I have financial interest in (costs money and time to train) but not emotional interest in. Her own emotions are manipulated to serve my own goals, as per usual.>>The point isn't to make women miserableNo, the point is to do whatever the fuck I want with them. In this fantasy, I have the power to do it. There'll be women I care about as partners, women I care about as useful slaves, and women I don't give two shits about because she'll be replaced within the month. If you want to be a kind, yet overbearing and possessive man... Go for it.>>I don't like BDSMThen why are you engaging with the fetish? This thread may not necessarily be, but my post sure was.*posts a MFF threesome in a general thread**random guy gets angry at lesbian sex*That's youWhat if you had a new Playstation that's never been used, but you already have like 20. Already have one for every room you intend on playing games in. Kinda worthless to you. So, you mod it. Can't play online games anymore, but it does what other consoles can't. Fun to play. So you loan it out to friends. It's a power play that shows them you have the resources to mod a brand new Playstation. It's also a resource you can use. They want extra time with your fancy modded Playstation? They can pay for it with money, favors, information, their own modded Wii, or whatever. As an aside, you should learn to discuss ideas without insults. I've ignored it until now, thinking you'd figure it out on your own, but clearly that didn't happen.
Merging with your women is seen as based or degenerate in your world?
>>11522757It's always hilarious how easy it is to make cuckfags start seething and ranting.
>>11521419You overestimate the resistance of 20 year old girls. Most of them are craving a genuinely dominant male frame.
>>11521322>it was my entire sexuality, and this is secretly true of the vast majority of women.I think men find shocking how prevalent this is even for women who are publicly raging feminists (they get wet when they are told to shut the fuck up).
>>11521335ugh. this thread actually killed my fetish after reading these posts a few days ago. i actually can't goon to this anymore. thanks assholes.
>>11523297Yeah, they lost me somewhere between the tranny larp and the advocating for the legalization of rape in the real world. Need to take a cold shower after that one.
>>11523297>>11523298It's always a good day when simply typing my thoughts on /d/ makes weak men cower. First off, rape is the most powerful and ancient tool of coercion known to man. Women literally orgasm from rape and fantasize about it and evolution doesn't make mistakes. Legitimizing male conquest and ownership of women through rituals like marriage is the foundation of any traditional patriarchy. If you don't actively want to return to those times that's fine but whining and breaking the fourth wall because you're upset about women being raped or losing rights has no place here.Secondly, it's ironic that you call me a tranny since only my path provides the possibility of actually eradicating troons. No more social and legal recognition of LGBT, period. No more hormone prescriptions for women in menopause, no more women's education, or medical privacy for that matter. So don't call me a tranny when its you and your preferred society that enables their existence.
>>11522851I'm going to assume a fantastical setting with magic/alchemy.Merging as defined by two individuals becoming a combined amalgamation? A man should never stoop as low as to allow himself to be corrupted by a woman in such a manner. Best case scenario: Revocation of all rights and treated as the lowest of the slaves. Worst case scenario: Repeated public execution and revival.Merging as defined by one becoming part of the second? A man's slave could only dream of becoming part of her Master. It would be a reward if it didn't destroy any future potential value a slave could give. Up to each man, but generally frowned upon and considered a waste. The other way around is straight-up the worst possible crime against society a man could commit.Should a slave somehow absorb her Master or another man (against all odds and in direct opposition with her upbringing) she will be tortured in the most brutal and sadistic ways imaginable. Probably used as a way for up-and-coming Masters to learn how far a slave can be pushed, or even just to vent frustrations. An example must be made.
>>11523298>legalization of rapeWhat's wrong with "raping" the women you own anyways you bought them from their father or breeder they're yours.Woman's value is their body, fertility and motherhood. Exchanged for never needing to think about running their own life>>11521421>AI, women's beliefsAlways loved the idea of teaching women learned helplessness along with total trust and obedience.An AI "assistant" on her phone/collar(also tracks her) everything she needs to do or know is told to her by the AI.Obviously said AI is just another tool for men to control their women.>>11523402>Women literally orgasm from rape and fantasize about it>rituals like marriage is the foundation of any traditional patriarchyOther lewd /d/ idea, Rape as a normal part of any loving relationship between men and their women.So long as she's yours it's fine. Other side to this is rape/sex as a tool for training womenFeminism just being seen as women asked to be raped/bred by her master.She's acting out to get the attention of her master and in part it's his fault for not being attentive to her sexual/emotional needs
Fun fact: the chances of a woman getting pregnant from nonconsensual intercourse is about double that or consensual sexIf that doesn't tell you what's natural, nothing can
>>11518308I mean if I had the resources to do it properly, yes, I'd go from fantasy to 24/7 in a moment. But it would take a running start with an absurd amount of capital even just to build the foundation.Consent would have to be key, at least in the early going. You probably need a headmistress figure who's as into permanent submission as you, if not more so. You furnish her with the instructions/guidelines, and use women's trust of other women as your recruitment tool for the first set of underlings. She builds her playground and runs it to suit herself and the other diehards she's collected, under the implicit arrangement that her and everyone else will drop whatever else they're doing with each other to serve you when you deign to make an appearance. It also couldn't *really* be 24/7 until you build rapport and/or fully indoctrinate someone; you have to provide some private space and safe words. The moment you break consent you're on the news as the new NXIVM guy and the game's over.You'd have to be perpetually testing the boundaries as you go, subtly inching them closer to total subjugation and eroding their ego with precision. If they start to feel fear, they'll bolt or try and bring the whole place down; even if they think they want it, they are women and will not be aware of what that means in practice. Even as willing submissive sluts, they are still operating on their own desires; they may want to put the maid outfit on but good luck getting them to clean the bathroom. Even "24/7" is still just a tacit agreement to play long-term pretend. Repetition and gradual re-education will be necessary to cross the final line.
