Previous thread >>11471172Basically muscular men with a girly face• No AI• No facial / chest / leg hair• Face should be human and visible• Facial features shouldn't be too angular i.e. no huge brow ridge or sharp square jawline• Not all muscular long-haired men are ambushes>Finding ambush contenthttps://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=ambush_%28trap%29https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=ambush_(trap)+-ai_generatedhttps://desuarchive.org/d/search/subject/ambush/https://www.pixiv.net/tags/Ambush_trap/artworksFor Pixiv, combinations of 男の娘, 女装, メス男子, 雄っぱい, 筋肉 and メスお兄さん can also workSuggestions for the next OP are welcome of course
i know I'm in the minority, but i NEED heterosexual ambush art
>>11532282>not ambush AND aiwtf is wrong is you?
>>11532283
Testacute
>>11532549holy shit
>>11532283Best I can do
I like'm BIG.
coopvillain made some great ambushes, unfortunately most of them were lost after he wiped his old content
for example, this fanart by pokkuti is of one of coopvillain's ocs: hikaru sendo
and this one is another of the same character made by toothbrushking
oh well, what's lost is lostI understand data hoarders in situations like thesemaybe I can find some of his pieces in the meanders of internet
>>11534914I feel yah. I lost a hot ambush pic and I been kicking myself ever since. Maybe I'll find it or maybe not.
>>11534937write some details about it, maybe we can find it
>>11534945Okay :DThe image sound pretty simple yet I had no luck finding it on rule34. It's an ambush long ponytail boy who is tying his hair. Also he is looking scowling and seems to be in short/japanese gym clothes. He's rather muscular and similar to Edward Elric with a massive veiny cock. I swear, It got posted on here but I had no luck finding it on ambush or hung femboy thread archives. I been hating myself for 2 years at this point for losing it. The only art that seems close to it but not quite is by some called Rampunch. Trail still cold tho for me
>>11534968could it be something by lostanemone/mlm4anemone?
>>11532080>tfw im into ambushes but i never told any friends (even online friends) that im interested in men and femboys i would be so nervous if i ever approach an ambush teasing me when im with my friends
>>11535241it's ok, I don't think ambushes exist
>>11535247you sure?
>>11535247I have terrible news for youhttps://www.instagram.com/sam_breaking_sad/?hl=en
>>11535239Hmm no, another detail is that the art was very well detailed and was from a Japanese artist. Shit to me it almost looked like a cover to a really hot doujin. I'll make another excursion onto desuarchive again to see if I missed something.
>>11535249the face will determine if it's a truebush or not
>>11535249>>11535250I stand pleasantly corrected
>>11535327what a back, axred7 is pretty good
>>11535334>>11535349not that I personally mind, but Ambush doesn't really embody pretty-boy anime Twink with 30 pounds of extra muscle and a huge dick.That would be a TwunkNow, if you take a Twunk and give them recognizably feminine features (make-up, long hair, womanly clothes, a more girly overall face), that would indeed be an Ambush.Just trying to establish if Twunks are acceptable ITT I guess
>>11535378ah so that's the difference between them, I see
>>11535378Agree, I consider them distinct categories
>>11535334Fuck I Twunks!
>>11535436*love
>>11535848no aishit
>>11535861ok catch
I like jewelry and dancer clothes
>>11536624Nice I love this OC
>>11528686>>11528690https://desuarchive.org/d/thread/11471172/#q11528686Nice contributions anon, but I do want to weight in on a thing/ask a couple questions>castor oilTechnically speaking, castor oil doesn't have any intrinsic components that facilitates hair/eye lash growth. If you want actual growth, it seems you with have to go down a peptide/prostaglandin route, with the later potentially having some unwanted side effects (skin discoloration, eye color discoloration, and fat deposit issues) and peptides feels like it's being used in a vague, buzz word way. What castor oil should do is moisturizer your lashes and in turn, they should grow longer and healthier because they're not breaking off as soon, and may also look fuller because new lashes are growing in while you still have your current ones within your normal hair growth cycle. Also apparently some people have gotten eye infections but I feel like that may have been a user error/other circumstances type issue>Hormones/MedicationsSo while obviously wanting to avoid estrogen type medications due many of it effects being overall detrimental (shame about missing out on some of the good things like the skin and hair stuff though), how extreme would being on fin/dut and progesterone be? In terms of actually getting said medication, I feel like if you have hair concerns, finasteride/dutasteride in some form should be easy enough to get legally, but how would you go about progesterone, assuming your not going to claim your mtf?
>>11536881>What castor oil should do is moisturizer your lashes and in turn, they should grow longer and healthier because they're not breaking off as soonYeah I'm aware, not trying to sell it as snake oil, just saying it's made a big difference for me. It's also pretty easy and unintrusive to do so I'd say it's something anyone wanting longer/thicker eyelashes should try.>how extreme would being on fin/dut and progesterone be?Not extreme in terms of negative effects unless you're one of the rare people(like me) who suffers negative effects from fin/dut. Total effects you could get with them are pretty broad, you would lose body/facial hair eventually, fat redistribution from the prog to be more feminine, mental effects from prog can vary. A lot of men/mtf report increased prostate sensitivity from rectally administered prog, which anecdotally I do get. Overall I'd say the combination is one of the more mild hormone combinations you could be on as long as you don't suffer extreme effects from fin/dut. E by itself was way more extreme than those two put together.>how would you go about progesteroneProgesterone can be acquired with no prescription from basically any website tailored to trans/bodybuilders/biohackers. There are other options as well depending on location, such as informed consent clinics which will essentially just ask you what type of transition you want with what medication and will give you a doctor's advisement on the safest way to do it, along with testing. I've tried them and they gave me progesterone with no problems.Progesterone is only occasionally prescribed to men for a pretty wide variety of niche health problems. There's not really any specific thing I think you could ask for from a regular doctor that could get you it, but maybe there's something I'm not aware of.
>>11536881>>11536999>progesteroneI may be retarded but how does progesterone affect fat distribution without any sort of sort of estrogen present? I dont keep up with things like this but I dont see what the mechanism is and how you could get that effect without risking breast growth if it did cause fat redistribution?
>>11537242>how does progesterone affect fat distribution without any sort of sort of estrogen presentIt's a misunderstanding propogated by the terminally online trans community and bodybuilding community that E is the only way to get feminisation. I hate to be negative but a lot of the stuff they say is pure hocus pocus made up by twisting studies into something they're not. E is not the "girldrug" and T is not the "boydrug". Hormones are absurdly complicated in action and if you try to apply common sense to them you'll end up wrong very often. It's how bodybuilders end up with breasts and trans women end up with a forest of body hair sometimes despite taking the right "boydrug" and "girldrug".To answer the question, fat distribution is affected by a metric ton of things. I'm not a doctor so the specific mechanism of action for progesterone is too complicated for me to be able to remember, I just know it works because I've used it without being on E at all and had heavy fat redistribution. The theory that Prog only has effects if you have high E levels is fabricated off of, I suspect, the fact that in trans women it's recommended to start prog a year after being on E. This isn't because prog doesn't work without E, it's the opposite.>how you could get that effect without risking breast growth if it did cause fat redistribution?Breasts are a lot more than just fat, they're made up of multiple different types of tissue. Fat distribution around the breast area(which I do have from prog) doesn't really look like anything unless you have actual feminine breast buds or are overweight(i'm not overweight so I don't have feminine breasts, and anybody trying to look like an ambush shouldn't be either). Progesterone doesn't cause breast bud development, so you will never even reach tanner stage 1 on prog as long as you don't have high E levels or low T levels. This is why prog isn't recommended to trans women until a year after E.
i require you guys to post relevant images along the with the textwalls
>>11537273Additionally, Progesterone is usually given to trans women a year after E because there's some small studies as well as anecdotal evidence that progesterone stunts breast growth(as in actual breast tissue, not fat) if used too early. This is because it doesn't grow breast buds, and instead(again, anecdotally and barely researched) grows secondary tissue out of the buds you get from E and "locks" the breast into its maximum size since breast buds(theoretically) can't grow out off this secondary breast tissue. The theory of this mechanism is that prog spikes during female pregnancy and grows extra channels out of the existing buds to prep for milk production. In trans women this is ideal at the END of breast growth to get slightly larger and rounded breasts, and if they do it at the beginning they'll "lock" their breasts small and be unable to grow more buds. This is actually the original reason I tried prog in the first place.If I reversed the typical dosage recommendation from doctors (E before prog-->prog before E) I could purposefully inhibit future breast growth while still enjoying the feminisation from prog, and potentially future E if I decided to go down that route.>>11537274>i require you guys to post relevant images along the with the textwallsmy bad I was doing an autism hyperfixation
I'm gonna start drawing ambush
>>11537284Bless
>>11537284Godspeed
>>11537274luv Argenti
so, should I make a thread specifically for twunks, or I can post them here?
>>11538095just post them, don't think it will disrupt things much
the funniest comment on this one was "Imagine this guy swimming in the river and you see this adorable catboi's head bobbing as he tries to catch some fish, only to stand up out of the water with a crocodile in his arms and hit you with a "Meow-wow, caught a big one, nyan~" like it's normal. It's not. But I wish it was.">>11538104yay :)
by the way, how hung do you like your ambush?
>>11538162Very
>>11537283>ProgesterpmeAre you the anon that wrote about taking different hormones last thread and tried Progesterone with good results? I'm kinda thinking of getting it, as I've kinda chased this physique for a few years and only now really start getting into the more hormonal forms of treatment. Tho I'm not quite sure if i actually want to start a Estradiol monotherapy now with Finnasteride, as I've kinda come to terms with breast growth for the added benefit of the fat redistribution and skin i really want. Tho I would have to get blood work done quite a bit as i want to keep up being able to get erections and stuff, and the muscles, obviously. The Progesterone is tempting to try to get some feminizing effects without full on E, but you know. All experimental really.>>11537242> It's how bodybuilders end up with breasts and trans women end up with a forest of body hair sometimes despite taking the right "boydrug" Kinda dishonest to frame this as hocus pocus and twisted studies. this is a really well documented phenomenon with the Aromataze enzyme, which gets overproduced when you blast yourself with T. Not trying to talk you down I just think talking shit about the trans community isnt really helpful when they got the most resources that are actually helpful for niche physiques like the ambush one. On that note, would anyone be interested in a sort of Ambush Discord? Been thinking of starting one. Hopefully more supportive rather than toxic. For swapping workout plans and tips and stuff? Also because i never really feel home in any trans/femboy/gay/bi places. but maybe thats just my tism.Another note, i've been working on a new workout plan specifically for the ambush physique, but its advanced and assumes a level of base fitness.Its heavily focused on shoulders, upper chest, and glutes without quad building. I also have dedicated flexibility sections, which i find heavily lacking in most male routines. If theres interest i might make a graph
>>11538423>Kinda dishonest to frame this as hocus pocus and twisted studies. this is a really well documented phenomenon with the Aromataze enzyme, which gets overproduced when you blast yourself with T. Not trying to talk you down I just think talking shit about the trans community isnt really helpful when they got the most resources that are actually helpful for niche physiques like the ambush one.Sorry, I don't think I was clear which parts I was calling hocus pocus. Obviously if you actually do research and read up on hormones in the right online spaces you'll get the right answers, but there's specific terminally online niches that peddle misinformation and when you're first learning about this stuff, it's hard to tell the difference. I've met irl bodybuilders who blasted T to the point of gyno because they got all their information from a private online community that told them T won't give them gyno because it's the "man" hormone. It's important to do actual research, read actual medical studies, ideally talk to a doctor, and not take blogposts as gospel, including mine. I was specifically responding to the notion that prog won't feminize without E, which is a common sentiment I see online and is falsely based on the idea that E is the only way to experience "feminization".>would anyone be interested in a sort of Ambush Discord?I would be>Also because i never really feel home in any trans/femboy/gay/bi placesIt's not just you, they can be pretty weird depending on the clientele>Its heavily focused on shoulders, upper chest, and glutes without quad buildingI've been working on lats lately, I'm trying to get a more exaggerated outline.Also ambush Messmer is hot
>>11538543>I was specifically responding to the notion that prog won't feminize without E, which is a common sentiment I see online and is falsely based on the idea that E is the only way to experience "feminization"Got it! Yeah this is good advice. I am surprised hyou are having so many positive effects through Progesterone. After some research, that seems really quite unique. Not doubting it tho, it seems extremely under researched even for trans women. So thats great! My first instinct is trying to get FInnasteride and maybe a lower dose E. I might actually give Progesterone a shot if i can get some doc to give it to me, lmao>I've been working on lats lately, I'm trying to get a more exaggerated outline.I also do a lot of lats! The big thing, from my experience working out as a self identified "ambush" is that you gotta work out asymmetrically. For instance, i do a lot of lats, shoulders, butt, upper pectorials, and a tad of biceps.Quads, calfs, the sides of your stomach (forgot the name rn), triceps, even lower pecs can be somewhat damaging to really get that accentuated outline.>I would beDone! DaUNhJK4e (wont let me post the full link, this is the uh. server URL. paste it behind the discord link, you know the drill)>ambush Messmer is hotCan impale me anytime
>>11538568>I am surprised hyou are having so many positive effects through Progesterone. After some research, that seems really quite unique.Yeah it seems very "love it or it does nothing" for people, which is why there's such mixed opinions in some spaces. The research is very scarce, especially if you're not mtf, so I knew it was gonna be very experimental when I tried it. Luckily it did everything I hoped it would.>My first instinct is trying to get FInnasteride and maybe a lower dose E.Seems like a decent starting point if you're okay with some gyno, which you said you are.>The big thing, from my experience working out as a self identified "ambush" is that you gotta work out asymmetrically.I think I kinda get what you mean? I'm probably a long way off, I did feminization first and now i'm going back to lifting.>Can impale me anytimeFuck why didn't I think of that...I'll join the server in a bit
>>11538423Guy who made the image about getting the ambush look here, I think a workout routine would be pretty dope. I made my guide because someone was talking about starting running to work towards the ambush physique, and that was just so backwards I felt like I needed to point people in a different direction. But it's very very much made for ground-level beginners, and also as compressed as i could get away with.I stand by it as a good way for people that dont like excersize to start. People that enjoy working out forget just how hard it is to get into for people that never did it. But it would be cool to have an actual routine to point to for once people get into the swing of things, instead of those useless unclicable links I put in.Honestly when it comes to guides tho i'd love for that person talking about skincare to write something upAlso discord server sounds good, i'd probably join. I probably have slightly different goals from most of you, but theres definitely some overlap and things I want that you cant find conversations on in other places.
>>11538573Like for instance, I'm probably getting E in a few months. And I can't find info anywhere about how that effects maintaining muscle you already have (outside of 1 pro athlete) or building new muscle, since most trans girls aim to lose muscle. That seems like the kind of thing where discord server would be good for sharing info
pls don't inject yourself with random shit because someone on the internet told you to
>>11538588lol yeah no worries its all done proffessionally and its been in the works for a while. Totally with you, I really hope no one sees these discussions and just do that
Are previous Ambush threads archived?
>>11538113>>11538119peak catboy, we can't go higher than this.
>>11538577Muscle upkeep becomes just harder and just doing nothing doesn't work anymore for maintaining the body, but having lots of muscles is possible, usually those who have tend to do derby or have other similar contact sport
>>11538610yeah the link is in the OP
Just found this cool ambush oc
>>11539011cool!
>>11536999>>11537273>>11537283>progesteroneOnly done a little bit of researching and most immediate stuff is all about the normal uses for women, any pointers where to find more specific/relevant info?>>11538423>>11538568>Ambush discordNeat, I'll make a side discord account and join a bit later>Also because i never really feel home in any trans/femboy/gay/bi placesMajority of people I knew who where in those circle were all mental (family/friends), so I tend to be wary of those clusterings
>>11532283A Hetero? in MY AMBUSH THREAD???
>>11535247Terrible list i made a while back.>Ambush ListAndre_chianezioAndrogynoux_boyAnnchi_rinArarity__AustinsugarxxxAvokado99_ballshaver86CamroncreamChristopherleeofficialColecowboiDvlsagaFluffycosFr_CalilHisamecosImwilliamdolan(pre-twink death)Leona_maanLovemesomevitaCLukasDaken/GapedGoddessMartin420lolMiaDescroixO.l.lutherRRNeo1Ratatosk_redSebastian TamesShinji_Senpai01Shunsukecos(play)/bigboy_shunStuartmackeyofficialTheCythereanTummycosVAL0RW1NGVagrant VegaValerii KoshmanVioletOkami_Vlad NclWhojuniorWillzoneium_ritzukiaefemboyconformist00kimfemboygigifranultravioletiamdaykajaybeckofficial/Hermesjay_kotin_jonyngawibsam_breaking_sadsmxmusimilakami
>>11541081half of thema re pooners
when i said "we need a tactical ambush for our enemies" i assure you, this was miles away from what i meant
>>11541336>the french said they sent their elite
some ambush vtuber
>>11542682it's the era of cutebois and cutegirls(bois)
>>11534658Woah this is exactly my typeMuch more than the girl head bara body typesThin, sharp handsome face with some slight androgyny and long eyelashesBroad shoulders and large hips with a narrow waistSlight muscle definition and big pecsYou could have this guy with a buzzcut and military clothing and I'd have the hots for him
>>11543368
>>11542938Yeah he's got a great designThe actual vtuber isn't that interesting to be honest but vtubers aren't really my thing in general
