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Farfalla Tre edition.

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Why tf is every doujin body swap and posession now?
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>Why tf is every doujin body swap and posession now?
Marketability? I feel as though anon complains about a new trend that passes in every thread that's already moved on. Is this an actual problem? If so, the market will probably work itself out.
Anyway, look at the girl Larharl scowling disapprovingly at you that I requested from a recent drawthread. She's so mad at the lack of content.
So mad.
(Please post porn in response.)
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>>11552415
I don't really mind body swap because you get a similar dynamic between the one who initiated it and the one who's a victim of it as you would in more traditional TG where someone get transformed by someone
But possession is genuinely a nightmare, I've had to blacklist the tag on sadpanda because I'd keep getting baited by possession doujins tagged gender bender
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I'm still interest in the "common TG universe" stuff TMF brought up last thread, if he wants to elaborate on it since he seemed to have some ideas about it, maybe I can workshop it into my existing TG stories idea I have never done anything with and finally get the drive to write them and post them online
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>>11552545
FR. Possession has a completely different appeal and grouping them together is worse for everyone. It has more in common with mind control works than gender bender ones and possession fans overtaking all of espeon's polls and translation slots has been a cancer on the tag.
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>my existing TG stories idea
Go on.
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https://www.mangaupdates.com/series/haivz8h/move-aside-i-ll-be-the-magical-girl

Has anyone read this genderbend ecchi comic? It's an online chinese comic, a manhua. Mostly magical girl yuri? It's better made than most manhua, which tend to be slop. It's got an actually interesting plot despite being ecchi, but it was a VERY wild experience (in a way that's hard to explain without big spoilers).

Pic related is the main character after transforming
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>>11552686
why? the darker stories are at least interesting. skinsuit garbage on the other hand...
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we need more FTM
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>>11552837
>we need more FTM
Generally gets its own thread on /d/. You'd probably have more luck getting what you're looking for by making a new FtM thread than asking for it here.
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>>11552837
Just read backwards bro
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giwtwm
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>>11552836
Nta, but I love skinsuits, though I do understand that I am a deviant even by deviant standards. I love that one that's like rental girlfriends, but you put on the suit and become the girlfriend. Can't remember the name, but it was by this artist
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>I love that one that's like rental girlfriends,
>Can't remember the name,
It's actually named "Rental Girlfriend."
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>>11552836
most possession stories aren't dark, they're about some greasy old bastard taking over some girl's body and doing perverted things with it
I see where the appeal could lie, but that's not what appeals to me in gender bender. Here the transformee is willingly and initiates it, there's no back and forth with anyone just some kind of weird power fantasy thing
plus if you're possessing someone is it really gender bender? nobody's gender is changing you're just puppeteering a female body temporarily
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>>11552159
Yeah it's a drag. Possessions are boring to me unless it's a female spirit that possesses a male, thus transforming them into women.

An example: Popura-sensei, one of my favorite tsf artists has been monopolized by the possession brigade for a while now, been sad to see.
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I wish artists still put in the effort to make a good quality genital transformation sequence instead of just a quarter panel "pop" and done... I've even found myself having to resort to shitty 3d animations on DeviantArt to get my kicks.
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Thanks anon. I must have assumed it couldn't possibly be called that because it was so close Rent A Girlfriend.
Also I love how the last panel throughout the series >>11552990 always has the man's ID card getting drenched in cum. I find it both hilarious and sexy.
I actually have a whole file of girls carrying their male ID.
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>>11552545
How about when a guy gets possessed by a female spirit, gets turned into a girl in the process, and eventually has the spirit exorcised, but remains female nonetheless, forced to face the consequences of whatever shenanigans the spirit got into
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>>11553242
pawchive.st is a currently working kemono fork, it's not got everything cached from kemono's old servers but it's worth a check.
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https://x.com/satoricry2/status/2083372950653464647/photo/1
"A manga where two men TS into each other's preferred beautiful girls"
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Is the joke that they look the same, so their "ideal girl" was just a female version of their friend?
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You know I've read that in the past women were banned from professions like acting and stuff and in Rome, Greece or more recently the Ottomans the most highly valued and popular prostitutes and "dancers" were basically castrated femboy's or shemales to the point that actual women were jealous of the attention they were getting compared to themselves.

So I was thinking if in like a fantasy or sci-fi setting the most high status female jobs or most female exclusive jobs in general were primarily taken by former men who got tged by magic/sci fi bull.
So the majority of actresses, models or idols or dancers (like ballet or something) etc are tged women with the backup dancers being women but that's still a minority of cases. It is an open secret across the entertainment industry simmilar to how Jews dominate the entertainment industry ( and other industries) and use nepotism to prop eachother up (but like jews they're also usually more talented), it works the same way in the verse with tged women proping up other tged women for all high and glamorus positions monopolizing them and if anyone notices this especially if it is a woman they get crushed and censored (like it happens when people notice jews)
The directors and actors etc are mostly cool with the status quo since the tged women often are easier to work with, less bitchy, make better wives and won't falsely accuse men of sexual harassment.

Just the idea of a verse where all the sex symbols, all the women men lust after and are presented as the pinnacle of femmininity being former men with actual women seething and being jealous is so hot and funny.
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Did the guy in Farfalla ever get an IRL sex change, or did it end with him as a transwoman using VR for cope?
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Next part is Farfalla Armonia, where he can become a futa in the real world. The ending implies that they're working to fully turn him into a woman so he can get pregnant.
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I really like TG where when it happens the clothes don't change, because when they do, it's kind of a cop out of seeing the newly grown breasts burst out of the clothes or tent them lewdly due to no bra.
Also another thing I wish I saw more was greater height change between the male to female when it happens. Having a relatively tall guy lose almost a foot in height when becoming a chick feels like it just doesn't happen that much.

The few things that do address it only have the character lose a few inches at best.
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>>11554426
I'm the complete opposite
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Preach. We need more 6’6 guys turning into 4’11 shortstacks swimming in pants 20 sizes too long and shirts that sit like dresses. Image attached is on the super extreme side of things but you get the idea.

Story here is right up that alley, with a load of pictures too, check it out. https://www.deviantart.com/randomsparks/art/The-Legend-of-Zelda-Short-and-Stacked-908235479
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>>11554463
>westoid slop
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>>11554463
That story was actually great. And a dozen images to accompany the process! What a treat. Thanks for sharing it
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>>11554426
>cop out
Cmon, people are just into different things, nobody is going on their way to piss you off.

Outfits changing with the transformation are very fun.
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>>11554426
>Also another thing I wish I saw more was greater height change between the male to female when it happens. Having a relatively tall guy lose almost a foot in height when becoming a chick feels like it just doesn't happen that much

How can you even tell? A lot of TG barely dedicates a page to the change. You comparing their height to the dooe frames?
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>How can you even tell?
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>>11554426
Honestly depends on where they take it. A guy not realizing he's turning into a girl is hot when they're in the same clothes as it makes it a lot more subtle. However a TSF victim's shock that they're not just a girl but the full set, clothes, hair put up, everything and have to process they're undeniably female and are the picture of a girl who, from the perspective of someone having no knowledge they transformed, meticulously presented herself like this from a glance without a hint of their previous existence from looks alone is a different flavor of hot.
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Any CYOA recommendations? I've read the one where you're turned into a maid against your will and the one where you're turned into a girl and sent to a psychiatric hospital, they were fun
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>>11554862
BTG (who wrote those two) and anonekama are the only ones I'm aware of that get to that level of masochism, google their names and you should find their other stuff. Anonekama are a bit more just fPOV rather than TSF, they'll sometimes throw a "you got isekaid and are a girl now" at the start and then it's never relevant again and the whole thing plays out as if you were always a girl anyway, but they push the same buttons for me.
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>>11552415
its not that i truly dislike the tag but only if they do it in my way aka body horror which honestly its like 2% of the times
https://exhentai.org/g/3571162/5ef85dab64/
https://exhentai.org/g/2319843/e35a0d24bc/
https://exhentai.org/g/1500855/3e435a4c06/
https://exhentai.org/g/1126547/9e249832d4/
https://exhentai.org/g/604229/3aaf005845/
these are some examples of body swap that i liked they have some sort of assimilation via hypnosis or some other shit
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>>11554463
>that story imageset link
Actual gold.
The only thing missing that I would love is a set of measurements for each new picture of link after the TG happens. Bust. Thighs. Hips etc. Or at the very least height. Near the end there's a comparison with Midna who canonically is like 2'8" which means at that point Link is barely 4' tall.
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https://ladycabal.neocities.org/CYOAs/HeartOfYinAndYangV2/
I had this one recommended to me ages ago, but I've had it open in a tab ever since and never got round to it. Never actually done a CYOA for this stuff before.
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I'm playing this roguelike called Hell Maiden where the gimmick is that it's based on Dante's Inferno except everyone's an anime girl.

I thought it was just that everyone was born a girl, but a random loading screen message informed me that everyone becomes a girl after they die and it made me laugh. It said that they are changed to fit gods image, implying god is a cute girl too. Lol
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Managed to grab the specific quote here. Nothing else in the game even hints at this so the tg aspect is really downplayed. I have only played a few hours.
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>>11555076
This is a really fun premise, I'd like to write a story with it, but after that wannabe shooter troon obsessed with Danny Phantom killed himself to become a ghost girl, I realize that there is a non-zero chance that some autist reading my story would try to do the same.
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>>11555076
I've also played a bit of Hell Maiden. I think it's worth checking out just for the retro anime artstyle alone, but the gender bending aspect is a nice bonus on top.
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>>11555076
I also recently encountered genderbending in a game where I wasn't expecting it but it's a bit of a spoiler and the game isn't out in english yet so I'm not sure if I should post it.
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>I'm not sure if I should post it
Do it.
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>>11554862
tim's CYOA's are also pretty good and TSF themed, it's either him, BTGAnon, or rosanon
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I personally think that the psychological part of the TG TF is severely under-represented.

I mean, I love seeing someone turning into a girl, but I also like watching the psychological struggle, the fact that this is the new body, with new hormones, even a new sexuality, but everything is conflicted. Or even the fact that you previously liked naked women, but now it seems normal and not arousing, because you are now a woman who can get naked.

And most of the time the sex scenes, which can be somehow forced, should personally describe the struggle. Otherwise, we fall into the "oh no i liek cockz now nyaaaa" cliché

Just a personal taste, though
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I dunno about possession, but body swap I'm fully on board with because it often ends with the guy in the girl's body having sex with the girl in the guy's body in my generally fave type of sex scene.
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>>11552415
I always add filter -possession -mind control -skinsuit
Which just leaves the well dry, there's not that much content if your picky like me
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>>11555255
Just ROT13 the name you are worried about spoilers.
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I know for some people it bypasses this block in their head that if a guy's body transforms into a girl it's still a "male" body because it was originally, at one point, male. Taking a body that was female and was previously perceived as female gives a "true" change of a guy's mind being in a female body, as dumb as that sounds.
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>>11556340
*Taking a body that was born female
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>>11556217
I think there was one in the tower of druaga anime
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>>11556403
I think that was just crossdressing
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>>11556467
there was a mix of everything, gender bend, twinning, etc, but it wasnt that great, just kind of eh
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>>11556403
There was one in the original manga for Soul Eater, too.
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Anyone in this thread making tsf content?
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>>11556559
I only really make AI shit for myself.
I did try using text gen to see how it was at continuing/making a Student Transfer scenario, but wasn't sure how to really continue it myself anyway, and it'd get expensive.
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>>11556559
>Anyone in this thread making tsf content?
Yup.
https://tgstorytime.com/viewuser.php?uid=15228
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>>11556559
I write CYOAs over on /trash/ (inconsistently) and also captions (EXTREMELY inconsistently).
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>using Translator++ to MTL rpg maker game
Any recommendation on which language model should I pick?
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>>11555690
i agree as well
i try to put that whole perspective in my ai tg tf scenarios whenever i can but i realize im just not that great at prompting and it can feel like a bit of a slow burn if im not doing it in a way that arouses me, any suggestions would help
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Any newer games worth following?
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I don't have the attention span and drive to make anything that will take me more than a few hours. I've tried before but it doesn't stick.
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Anon, I vibe-coded a translation system that renders context, summarizes plot, creates a consistent glossary. If you are not doing all that it doesn't really matter.

Example of how a final prompt looks like:
https://files.catbox.moe/sutgyh.txt

Gemini tends to be my go to. (And local de-censored Gemma).
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>>11554426
Asazuki Norito has you covered.
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>>11556559
Yeah. Mostly AI, sometimes drawn. Though if what follows is "Can you make xyz" - Nah.
A bunch of creators lurk here.
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>>11557230
Assuming the girl hormones didn't kick in instantly, having a few to schlick in would be fun.
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Every image that I generate is TSF in my mind. But I rarely use popular characters or make sequences, so nobody likes my work. Doesn't matter to me. I feel like I have the best TSF collection in the world since it all caters to what I enjoy most.

When AI image generation first became a thing, I fantasized about finding someone with similar tastes who I could regularly trade images with. I wanted it to be a catalyst for forming personal connections, but I failed to foresee how most people either can't or won't embrace the software. It's still lonely, but it's far better than also being dependent on other people to pander to my obscure interests.
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>>11557474
I'm confused. Is she a state mandated girlfriend?
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>>11557474
That story started interesting. Then it just became sad at the end.
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https://en-thunderscans.com/comics/the-twin-tailed-president-of-the-girlification-research-lab/
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>>11556559
I play around with the idea, where an alternative sexy no jutsu causes Boruto to never turned back fully and some sort of contrivances that would causes Naruto to "discipline" him, but each time Boruto just become more and more addicted the transformed state, eventually s/he has to make a choice.
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>>11556559
I've made a couple related shitposts but sometimes for commissions that aren't of an OC, where the girl is embarrassed, I do draw a rough sketch of a "before the transformation" for my own satisfaction
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I'm trying to find one manga posted here before. A guy finds a pregnancy planner that turns him into a girl for a month and she fucks her best friend to see what sex is like so she got pregnant. Anyone have a link?
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>>11557971
TS Boshi Techou by Matsuzono
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>>11557997
Yep that's it. Thanks!
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Posting this because it's the most 'literally me' doujin I've ever seen. I wouldn't go so far with his plan that's a bit too much because I'd be paranoid of something happening exactly like ended up happening, but otherwise fuck yeah I want it.
https://files.catbox.moe/8y5w7g.rar
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>>11558138
Who are these 2? Fate characters?

If yes then did they actually genderbend like Leonardo davinci or is it the standard case of "they were actually women all along the historical records just hid it" ?
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>>11558111
>That translation
Translator anon, if you're here and see this would you mind going over this and posting anything you think need correcting + the missing bubbles? I'd like to fix it if possible, I'll typeset it like pic related if you're up for it.
Here's the raw:
https://exhentai.org/g/3459010/741a6475f2/
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>>11558183
>Fate characters?
Yes.
Right one: francesca prelati
Yes. She is like Davinchi or rather Cagliostro from GBF. Her current back up body she transfered into is that of a female, in strange fake she summoned himself, his original male form as servant i think? I haven't gotten around watching it though.
Left: Matsunaga Danjou
I know she is from grand order but that is the extent of my knowledge of her.
Though she also pulled the Da Vinchi thing and made his servant form female.

Stupid breedable old men!! They need to get corrected!
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>>11557676
Big fan
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you guys got anything tribal related?
something like this https://nhentai.net/g/339715/ where dude gets trapped with a tribe and turned into a woman?
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>>11558518
Japan doesn't do racial transformations in TSF. You want the /aco/ thread: >>>/aco/9263053
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>other people perceive MC as a girl after transformation
>reaction of people of knowing that MC is M2F
Which one or any extra suggestion?
Just drafting story as MC head get transplanted to a female body by an alien.
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>>11558552
I've seen them do it rarely like pic related, but understandably in terms of pic related's subject matter I think the idea of someone not-Japanese turning into a Japanese girl is more exotic to foreigners than it is to the Japanese themselves
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>Just drafting story as MC head get transplanted to a female body by an alien.
People knowing that it's a man's head on a woman's body is better for that particular concept.
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>>11553102
This one's the best of the three. Still closely familiar to their old self but with enough changes to be able to tell something's off. Love that.
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>>11558518
This artist's gallery on Skeb has some racial chamge stuff, though it isn't TSF. I feel like I've seen some TSF stuff in the same vein before but haven't been able to track it down. https://skeb.jp/@ropioka/works/14
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>>11558552
>>11558763
thanks for the tip but my apologies for not being more specific i was looking for ones with that type of setting/plot not actual racial transformation if you get what i mean.
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>>11558585
twinning is hot
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are there any jp games that focus on slowburn gender bend instead of just immediately turning into a girl when the game starts? ive been playing paradise succubus but it doesnt really have a story.
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Why are old men so erotic?
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Bro saying she didn't become a girl in soul, yet dresses like this trying to steal your heart.
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LOL. LMAO even.
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>>11560204
>TSF no F would rather spend money keeping us from enjoying his shit than spending it on TSF content
it's crazy since my taste overlap almost perfectly with his
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>>11552430
There more of this?
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>>11554862
...Links to those, kind anon?
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>>11560205
>i think his work is worthless
>he thinks his work is worthwhile
>we jack off to the same things
>why can't we see eye to eye on this?
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Been doing genderswap stuff with AI.

The chatbots sure do suck for this stuff now. Even if you want to focus on social behavior and let it not talk about body changes it fucks it up.

Like day you are writing a mtf going shopping, it focuses on all this social justice shit about people not listening to women. It avoids the more interesting more nuanced conversation that some people wont listen to her while others will be more helpful. That people will be more likely to be more friendly and helpful.

Its a shame really. AI could help keep all these variables straight. People have studied it. Ai has rhe papers, books, etc. But it is biased towards politically limp dicked perspective that is safe for investors.
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>>11560263
The only corpo AI I ever bothered with for this purpose is Grok, and you need to give it strict rules in the customization prompt.
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>>11560273
Chatgpt produces better images. Like you can give it 5 manga pages and it will match the style dead on.

Its just a pearl clutching prude and overtly turf femeninst. It will refuse a lot of gender stuff even when it is educational or a comentary on gender
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>>11560263
What AI are you using?
I have never had this happen.
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>>11560235
Nice try, F.
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>>11560319
Chargpt, gemini and claude are the worst about fighting genderswap
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Made this wirh chatgpt
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>>11560231
>...Links
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>>11560336
Ah, see I only use those to build my initial prompt, then I use whatever model after. Currently, it's GLM I'm using.

>>11560386
ChatGPT is cool because it can do comics, but the visuals tend to have an obvious look.
You could feed ChatGPT an example image to help change the art I guess. I fed it an RPG Maker MV faceset of a character that's supposed to be TG'd, and it made some cowboy shot poses of her. Felt the art fit in with the faceset.
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>>11560502
>ChatGPT is cool because it can do comics, but the visuals tend to have an obvious look.
>You could feed ChatGPT an example image to help change the art I guess. I fed it an RPG Maker MV faceset of a character that's supposed to be TG'd, and it made some cowboy shot poses of her. Felt the art fit in with the faceset.

Feed chatgpt 20 images of the goal style and look and say something like

"Use attatched images for reference. Do not paintry. Do not normalize. Do not beutify. Generation should look exacrly like the reference images. Draw background to match reference images." Then add your own stuff to the prompt.

It will probably still shrink the hips, breast or pregnant belly. You have to fight it a lot to make it not turn your generation into a generic bouish whitegirl
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>>11560195
Because sundresses are both cute and sexy
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>>11560205
>>11560235
I think his work is worthless because I don't jive with his fetishes of mind wiping and shit, even if the artist is good.
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Which one of you pieces of shit got my post deleted because you and the mods don't know real ghostbusters is anime?
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>>11560231
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/41734352/#41752816
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/49342471/#49366315
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>>11560646
> I don't jive with his fetishes of mind wiping and shit
You are laaame
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Mind whining is only hot if it is self inflicted via hubris or stupidity
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>shrink+TG+trapped in breasts+ trapped in clothes
kino not enough like this, more tg with size changing/difference
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>>11560195
That's the thing. I'm not gay. Like 100% straight. So if I was a girl, I'd have to get a boyfriend. And yeah, guys are pretty easy to seduce so...
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>>11561388
That just means you're gay and retarded.
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>>11561423
No, it's the opposite. I'd only have sex with girls since I'm a guy. But if I was a girl, I'd only have sex with guys because I'm not gay.
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>>11561444
But you're not gay because you're attracted to girls. That means if you were a girl you would be gay because you'd still be attracted to girls. Turning into a girl and becoming attracted to guys are two different things.
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>>11561445
>Want penis in vagina
>Not particular whether have penis or vagina
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>>11560263
Your prompts most likely are either too vague or too focused on things adjacent to social justice crap.

Actually, on further reflection you’re likely asking the AI to tell you what happens, which leads to garbage, when in reality you should be essentially giving the AI stage directions on what happens and let the AI expand that into dialogue/narrative.
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>>11561388
>>11561444
I need a female Kenshiro pointing at the screen and saying "You are already gay".
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>>11561474
This.

>>11561445
I would love to be in a relationship with a man and have sex with him, except that gay sex has zero appeal to me, in fact I kind of see it as gross (though if that's your thing whatever). If this was an option, I'd have zero desire to have sex with girls even if I still thought they were pretty or whatever. So sex with women is kind of like, the best I can get.

It kind of sucks that I'm not gay cause I have one or two friends I would love to get with if I was a girl.
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>>11561388
>Mahiro
>Turns into a girl
>Gets aroused by yaoi
>Gets aroused by a boy but stops when he realises its a girl
Maybe Mahiro was a gay from the start
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Maybe this isn't the right place for it, but I kinda want to type out my feelings on this.

I think most people these days kind of accept the 'self ID' definition of gender, but I kind of don't?

I play VR a lot and have had lots of 'sex' in it. When I'm in a female avatar, I love having sex with male avatars. The buddy I mentioned before and kind of have a crush on? I suck his dick and get him off all the time and it's great.

However, I tried having 'gay sex' in VR before. Like two male avatars. It made me feel totally gross to the point I had to take a break from the whole thing for a few weeks. If I can't do that in VR there's no way I could IRL which sucks cause I kind of wish I did. I put futa avatars in this catagory but I would rather it be a male avatar.

I've also used a male avatar to bang female avatars and that's also great. I prefer sucking dick but having a girl suck mine is also fine.

Finally there's two female avatars. It doesn't make me uncomfortable but it's just kind of... boring. Like I wished she had a dick I could suck the whole time.

So the tier list: me/them
F/M: Best
M/F: Good
F/F: Meh
M/M: pukes

I dunno. Maybe it's too personal, but I feel like it's the best introspection I can have on how gender bending and your body can affect your sexuality. You know, until they invent an actual way to become female.

So you can all decide if I'm gay or trans or whatever now.
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>>11561492
But Mahiro used to look at hentai of presumably girls all the time. I think she just turned 'straight'.
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Mahiro should get impregnated by her little sister
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>>11561494
Mahiro became a himejoshi because of Miyo and denied his natural inclinations to be a fujoshi
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>>11561493
I get fucked in vr too it's pretty good man
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I would only get VR to get fucked in it. It's super appealing to me. Being female is super appealing to me as well because not to sound selfish, I want to be desired by both men and women, and I would be not particular about who was having sex with me, as long as they were good looking and smelled good.
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>>11561550
This guy gets it.

>>11561556
Do it. Using a girl avatar to get guys off in VRchat is super empowering. I understand the desire to be desired too. Guys want me to sit on their lap, cuddle with them, and bend over so they can get off.

And it's pretty cool outside of pure sex stuff. Women have actually squeed at how cute I am in VR. They pat my head and tell me I'm adorable. It's way easier to make friends if you look like a girl. At least for me.

So yeah. Get a quest 3. Start sucking a dick. And get called a good girl. It's the closest you can get to TSF.
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>>11560195
ay tone what do you think the translator meant by this
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>>11561574
do you use a voice changer? or are you a mute? i feel like i could never say anything lewd out loud if it was in my own voice...
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anon be like
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>>11561677
I use my normal voice for the most part. But I do have a voicechange, depending on the scenario. Like if they want me to make sex noises when they're fucking me, I prefer to use the voice changer. If I'm doing a TF scenario then it's great too. Though I am comfortable using my real voice most of the time.

The best one is Voicemod, IMHO, though you do have to pay for it (once, not a subscription). It's great because you can highly customize your voice, you can set playback so you hear your modded voice which helps a lot for this thing, and it comes with a soundboard to boot.

I'm rooting for you. Get your headset and voicechanger then go suck some dicks, Anon!

>>11561682
It's very true. Though my character is more of a shortstack.
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>>11561704
>>11561493
hello fren I do the same thing you do except I pretty much exclusively bottom in a female avatar.
I use RVC2 instead of voicemod and have gotten it to where it sounds pretty good
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>>11560646
I don't like how he makes the genderbent guy's hair grow longer.
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>>11561666
Nice trips and that she is pocketable. I could just pick her up, put her over my should or under my arm and take her home.
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>>11561776
And always that little sister coded twin tail ass hair, too
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>>11561556
>try some virt-a-mate scene of gender bender
>look down and see the tf happening
>go to a mirror
>daimonds
Dangerous.
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>>11561388
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>>11561777
Those images are all of the character from the piss-fetish manga, right?
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>>11561876
I never read or watched Oniani. But i guess it had a few piss focused moment too. There was a scene in manga, where her breasts expand.
Also TSF'd boy flavored piss. Gotta try it once. (yeah, nope, but i felt i needed to make that joke.)
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>>11561876
>>11561877
There's just a couple of piss scenes. It is clearly the author's fetish but he's able to restrain himself. TSF loli being caught out by her new smaller bladder is hot anyway.
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>>11561774
Cute! You're a good girl and that's exactly where you belong. Keep making cocks jizz, okay?
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>>11561876
Sorry sis, but Ranma pees sitting down.
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>>11561876
I thought it was hot because it's well known that females have a more difficult time holding their pee, so it tracks that if a male suddenly became female he might easily misjudge it and have an accident.
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>>11561945
It's just another way that the female body defeats you.
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>>11561866
Well shit, got a random $200 Amazon card today so I guess it's a sign. I can't believe I'm going to do this.
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>>11561938
>Ranma pees sitting down.
Any real man among men would learn to piss standing up as a girl.
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>>11562238
Awesome!

I fully support your quest to have vr sex with a boy.

If you want any help or advice getting into VR just let me know. We can pick out cute girl avatars for you to get guys off with.

There's a VR lewd general in /trash/, but two main things to look into are SPS sockets (no plugs for you!) and full body tracking (slimes are the cheapest) if you want to get really into it.
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>>11562240
That's how it gets you. She'd probably pee standing up out of principle at first. But eventually there's gonna be that one time where she's really gotta go and trying to do it like a boy is too risky. She sits down once.

Then the barrier is broken. It becomes easier and easier to do until... eventually she's just doing it because it's easier that way.

And eventually, she starts peeing like a girl. The female body wins.
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>>11562356
This happens to Mahiro to the point where even when he has his dick back he sits down to pee out of habit, if he ever returns to being a man it won't work because he'll still act like a little girl, unless of course Mahiro embraces being a trap then he could get away with it but at that point as he's taking dick he might as well stay as a girl.
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Sometimes my pee cannon turns into a shotgun or ends up flowing with great curve and because i'm lazy to clean up, i just sit down. I'm usually half alseep or dead tired, so sitting down and pretend i have a long peeing session helps relaxing and everyone leaves me alone. Of course in public restrooms or in the nature i pee standing up without a care.
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>>11562352
hello.. I haven't really been involved in posting but I have been keenly looking at your replies.. I think I want to try too. I'm a lonely trans girl who's post everything, voice trained, stealth and just very depressed and want to escape to another world and find people to connect with and stuff...
what would you say the lowest barrier to entry is? i use Linux so I worry heavily that a lot of the extra stuff required for advanced stuff in vr won't work..
sorry for all this I'm a little all over the place
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>>11562700
vr stuff tends to work just fine on linux depending on the headset. overall you'll probably want to get a meta device unless you are able to get a pico one since they are a bit more open nowadays
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>>11562700

I don't use Linux but I know several people who do with full body tracking so it can work.

The cheapest headset is the Quest 2 for like $200 bucks. You can use this without a PC but you won't be able to go to some worlds or see a lot of people's real avatar, only their fallbacks. but it works.

If you want to connect a Quest 2 to your PC and unlock all the worlds you need ALVR. It's a bit of work to set up but if you use Linux you're probably used to that.

If you want Full Body, I'd say wait till you're sure you like VR. But SlimeVR is compatible wtih Linux. You can buy five for another $200 or eight trackers if you want to go all in.

The next upgrade over the Quest 2 is the Quest 3. Don't get the 3S. The 3 is much more comfortable and better but know that you will have to buy a new strap for like 50-100 on top of the price because the built in one is almost unusable.

If you need any encouragment or advice on how to make friends in VR and stuff let me know.

On an unrelated note, I hope you end up having sex with a dude in VR too.
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>>11563021
>Becomes a magical girl
>Turned into a little girl and no-one remembers anything different except him
>Smaller than he was before and most girls
I look forward to more of this
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>>11562934
Can you explain to me what the deal is with headsets being stand-alone capable? I havent paid much attention to the VR space cause i was to poor, untill like a year ago. Im considering getting into it, now i could afford to.
I have an aging but capable enough PC to not need the headset to already be a computer, but it seems to me the midrange and cheap models all have this standalone stuff, while the expensive (and still out of pricerange for me) models like the index dont have that stuff.
Like, having the headset able to run stuff standalone feels a waste of money when i GOT a computer, but it seems like they all do this in the sub 600 range?
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>>11562836
>meta device
is this really the best option? I was tempted to get something but I dont like using or involving myself with any of their shit
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>>11563257
I was wondering the same. I have a great PC that would easily run a headset, I wonder why I would have to pay and wear all that extra stuff.
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>>11563257
Valve's steam frame is supposed to release soon which may or may not end up being reasonably priced and I've heard good things about PSVR2 with the pc adapter. I'd avoid Pico too since bytedance is no better than meta.
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>>11563250
all new headsets use insideout tracking and you need at least a little bit of computing power for that
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>>11562934
thank you for the advice, the headset choice will be the big thing for now. I don't know about the full body experience yet, I've been researching but I need to look harder at how I'd have to install the trackers for them unless that's no longer the case.
Yes I want get fucked too :3
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>>11563089
>Smaller than he was before and most girls
best outcome
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>>11563257
Alright, I'll just explain all the options for you people.

Stand-alone is good if you don't have a computer. Then there's two types of headsets:

Inside out: These need an onboard computer. Uses onboard cameras to track movement. Is capable of wireless VR. They usually aren't much heavier or more expensive than the other type.

Outside in: Use laser from light houses to track. IMPORTANT! You'll need to buy lighthouses for these to work. 2 will work but you should get 3. Add $300-$600 on the price of outside in headsets. And it's another thing you gotta charge. These headset also need wired connections, being plugged into your PC.

Pancake lenses are an important thing to look for. They massively increase the clarity of the picture. Everything below but the Quest 2 and 3S has them.

Outside In headsets:

Quest 2: $200 maybe. Bulky by today's standards. The picture isn't great. Very cheap.

Quest 3s: A quest 2 with a better processor. Don't get it unless you're only using stand alone.

Quest 3: (~500g, but more compact so torque is less) You can maybe get a used 128GB one for $400. A new one for $600. You should add and extra $100 for a battery strap. It's light weight, very clear picture, can do color passthrough and track your hand with the onboard cameras.

^This is the most bang for your buck if you can swallow your pride.

Steam Frame: (~180g in front, 440 if you count the batter pack) Soon (TM). Probably $1000. Much lighter than the Quest 3, missing a few features, wireless connection massively better, foviated streaming. Will likely be the best overall headset when it comes out.

Pico4: ~500g Not as familiar with it, but seems pretty comparable to the Quest 3. $400

Outside in (you gotta buy light houses)

Bigscreen Beyond 2: (~100G) Probably the best tethered headset. Extremely light weight, large field of view, great clarity.

Valve Index: (900g) Last Generation tech. Maybe $500. Extremely bulky and blury by todays standards, but oled.
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>>11563446
Finally is Pimax if money is not option. These are also outside in. Very powerful but will cost 2K minimum.

As for hardware, I used to do VRchat with a 1660 super. Had to cull a lot of avatars but worked fine. If you have 32GB system ram and 16GB Vram, you'll have almost zero issues.
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>>11563422
>Yes I want get fucked too :3

Based! I'll fully admit that guys turning into cute (anime) girls and getting fucked by men is my fetish (like, that's literally this thread), and VRchat is kind of the closest we can get to that. I want it to happen to you. It'll make me very happy if any of you post that you sucked a dick.

But yeah, VR is great in general for making friends. I have tons now. I can give advice about finding groups and avatars and stuff once you all have VR headsets.

Step one of transforming this thread into a bunch of digital anime girls is a go.

>I don't know about the full body experience yet, I've been researching but I need to look harder at how I'd have to install the trackers for them unless that's no longer the case.
Again, I'd say wait on that one. Slimes are very easy to set up, you just strap them on and install the software.

Know that there is a much superior tracker called Fluxpose coming out soon. But they also cost double.
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>>11563450
thank you <3 it's my birthday soon so maybe I'll treat myself to a quest 3 and see what happens, maybe all the voice training will be worth it and I can make people hard just by being there
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>>11563453
Yeah, if you have a female-passing voice it'll be easier, but as long as you have a cute/sexy avatar it shouldn't be too hard to get a guy to jizz for you.
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>>11563446
I think I might actually just get a steam frame depending on the price, if it's between 600 and 1000 but the 1000 is much better and futureproof I might get it, and if I don't like it the scarcity of valve tech will make it easy to resell at pretty much full price
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I just found out about this place in New Jersey where you can pay a bunch of money, and get a private shopping experience with an dommy expert fashionista, and a full on girly makeover. So you walk in a man, and out as a woman. I'm way to excited about it. Like literally everything. From fake breasts and asses to wigs. I'm going to be a goth girl.
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>>11563446
Thanks for the breakdown anon. Looks like the quest 3 is the best pick for me then. Ill have to think and wait for a bit, but i think ill go for it if i find a sale or something after i get paid.
Any other tips for how to get the most out of it would be apprechiated :)
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>TS Casino by Labui came out almost 3 years ago
>Got a Spanish translation a year ago
>English translation nowhere to be seen
Why does this always happen for gender bender stuff I'm interested in?
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>>11563699
The beaners sadly have good taste
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>>11563699
Learn Spanish, remembering that I know Spanish has opened a lot of series and doujins to me. I found Japanese too hard to learn.
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>>11561493
You can be trans and not transition, and still find fulfilling relationships. Where if you were to explain this to someone seeking a traditionally straight relationship, it would be hard. You’d have to find you’d have to go through so many people to find that right person. However, if you just say that you’re queer or non-binary or some sort of label that you feel like fits. So you can non-cringe way to signal this type of lifestyle that you have now. Which if you wanted you could possibly have that in real life as well as online or just enhance your online relationships.

What you’re describing is how I felt pre transition, it went well, and my life is overall better in every way in every facet, but I also am extremely lucky. Like the consequences of like medically transitioning and visibly trans is insane. Which is why I kind of wish people in your situation felt included in the trans/queer umbrella atleast just enough so then you can at least enhance your life even if you keep it as a small corner of it
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>>11563455
Or you can use a voice changer. If you're willing to work on it and have the hardware to run one, they can sound just fine even for moans and other noises.
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>>11563889
any example of free voice changers?
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>>11563918
The sloppiest thing about this fucking slop is probably that "The End" is in the wrong fucking panel. What a waste of a fucking post.
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I DON'T WANNA HAVE TO WEAR A BRA
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>>11563996
WTF?
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Boobies.....
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>>11563996
So you wanna be a cutting board!?
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>>11564025
oh hey it's this guy
he commissions some wacky stuff
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>>11564025
ummm on second thought maybe bras aren't too bad, might as well have some cleavage if you're gonna be a girl amirite, but not too big because that's kinda embarrassing, plus there's plenty of bra styles to choose from
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>>11563939
>What a waste of a fucking post.
Not as big of a waste as your spiteful post
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>>11563996
Wish granted, now you're a free range cowgirl who doesn't need to dress up
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>>11563922
I use RVC2
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>>11563920
Okay this is based wish there was more like this
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They do a lot of inanimate/rubber stuff which I'm not into, but when they do pure TSF it's really damn good.
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>>11564305
The artist is BadBitchDicey
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>>11564315
Meant for >>11564028
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I would love to see a TS/TF version of https://exhentai.org/g/2062202/754450712c/ where the MC starts off as a nerdy boy who is bullied by the school delinquents until he catches the TS virus, becomes a girl, and the delinquents then go from stereotypical bullying to "training" him/her to be their new sex toy. The story ends with MC fully embracing her new life as a prostitute and adult video star.
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>>11563918
Santa: "Ho Ho Ho! You may not get a toy train this year, but my elves will run a train on you. Ho ho ho!"
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>>11564315
I agree wholeheartedly
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>>11564351
fuck you santa I wanted a racecar bed
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>>11564351
ho ho ho something something you wanted a Barbie doll now you are the Barbie doll, ho ho ho
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>>11564350
poor nerdy boy just can't catch a break
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Anyone remember this obscure tgtf Cinderella fic where the fairy godmother went into the wrong house and feminized the male servant, it was posted on an obscure site and called something like Cinders and Ashes
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Turned into a still-not-potty-trained loli
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New thread: >>11564560
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>>11564580
Is he also wearing Haruhi's loaned underwear
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>>11561493
Since you only talk about sex, it's most likely only a fetish, autogynephilia. It gets you off, that's it.
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>>11563635
You can't just say that and not provide a source or a clue?



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