Themed Questions:>How would you turn a Prideful woman into a sub?>What's an average day of slave training look like?>Fantasy races as slaves? How do you feel about Elves/Drow, fem only monster girl races, etc.>See above; Any playing with Eugenics to create the perfect slave race?Last Thread>>11514868Archives:https://archived.moe/d/search/subject/Patriarchy/https://desuarchive.org/d/search/subject/Patriarchy/Disclaimer:This thread is for fetishizing a patriarchy where it's biological men being Doms and biological Women as Subs
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>>11566470>>11566473Any Anons up for continuing with Drow/Elf slavery, Fantasy racism type stuff?>>11566759>grading elf women on racial traits that don't matter to them>A haughty elf noble who's used to getting her way...More into the this whole "Once noble race humiliated" type stuff for Elves.Being a long lived race these women get to see their race devolving into mindless toys for humans.Born into and trained for slavery, trait breeding, social conditioning, etc.All of it just a long term humiliation ritual!
It is odd to think that only a few generations ago Monster Girls kept human men cooped up in fear in the Great Cities. In those days it was only natural that women would become knights as they could face the beasts without sending them into a frenzy, and this lead to the dark days of matriarchy.Technology was one major factor, the advancement of firearms, anti-magic metals and alchemy were as much fueled by ending the Monster Girl menace as they would eventually be by the Wars of Liberation, when men rose to their true place.The more important piece in the domestication of Monster Girls however is that of biological imperative, they must breed to create the next generation and survive as a species as we all must, and they have no males of their own. Where once this lead to raids and hunts, it can now be used to domesticate. Once broken of her resistance through anti-magic, powerful binding wards and good old fashioned chains, she will slowly shift towards finding another way to impart her genetics on the future, submitting to her trainer, master, or the nearest stable hand. One must still be careful, as when in heat these creatures are extremely dangerous, but over time they will learn to get what they want at their owners pleasure, or else be locked away entirely
I vehemently agree with that anon in the last thread that every Drow should be in chains. It's a win-win situation: it removes them from doing stupid stuff like enslaving men and teaches them how superior men really are.Plus I have been told by a very reliable source every member of that race can be made into an excellent sex slave, from the lowest serf to the hihghest queen.
>>11567340>few generations ago Monster Girls kept human men cooped up in fear>domestication of Monster Girls however is that of biological imperative, they must breed to create the next generationI know this might not be /d/ or patriarchal enough, but I love this ideal of Monster girls/Demi-humans being female only for what it means for Women.No more of this gross "Every woman" is a whore, sex worker, free use, etc. leave that for the slave races.Wives, daughters, sisters should be treated as the princess/Queen of the house.It's Expected that men bring slaves into the marriage, cause the norm is having handmaids and servants waiting on you. Might have some class play into that; the rich have entire staff of slaves, middle class might only have a few, lower class rent theirs, etc.Drudgery of life eliminated cause monster girls depend on their status as slaves simply to continue existing as a race.
>>11567340>>11567379Glad to see my barbarian women-only 40K eldar tabletop scap that ended on the garbage has inspired some of you.>Might have some class play into that; the rich have entire staff of slaves, middle class might only have a few, lower class rent theirs, etc.If you're gonna go with class, then you need less volume and more value.Richer households have rarer or more difficult types of monster girls as slaves, Dragon girls for their difficulty in enslavement and rarity as an example, or even actual elves, the closest thing to enslaving an actual human.Middle class should aim for some status and rarity, but their dreams of keeping up with the joneses need to be grounded in reality, Maybe you get something like a horse girl, where her pedigree and training should give you some prestige.Poor peasants afford anything that reproduces fast, they value more volume because their needs are more for manual labor than any education or smarts, they would probably keep races that reproduce a lot, or give multiple births, like ratgils or bunnygirls.
>>11566972How can elves even compete?
>>11567369>every Drow should be in chains... removes them from doing stupid stuff like enslaving men>every member of that race can be made into an excellent sex slaveOnce you seem them fuck you'll understand why they tried keeping human men as slaves.Remove the threat of daughters plotting matricide, and Drow will mate n fuck like animals.Surprising given their lower fertility!Unrestrained from Drow social norms they're the perfect sex slaves, willingness isnt the issue instead they're all too ready to fuck.Whores forgetting to charge customers, Drow maids to busy with men between their legs that they can't get any work done...The poor things go mad in heat when they're in chastity belts, though i suppose there's never too much of a good thing!>>11567560>How can elves even compete?They can't and they love it!Never underestimate how much elves love humiliation, living furniture, public bondage/sex.They'll do anything they can to make sure some one watches them being used!Is it any surprise why Free elves try so hard to put on their act of being "pure and high minded"?Honestly for Elves(Drow included) being enslaved is their best life!
>>11567410>need less volume and more value>Poor peasants afford anything that reproduces fast... bunnygirls.Playing into this sort of thing is how slaves view themselves and others based on their price.Something fun about seeing Elves lording their price tags over other slaves.Self-worth based entirely on what men are willing to pay for them as women.>elves, the closest thing to enslaving an actual humanThe whole focus on "Pure blooded human women" affords rights and privileges no slave race could dream of.So it's fem-on-fem dom with race play. Master's wife being allowed to go full Ice Queen towards his slaves!
>>11567760>Something fun about seeing Elves lording their price tags over other slaves.I like the idea, but if you're gonna do this, elves would be a hot commodity, they're not gonna be sold in the slave market. They'll be sold on rich-only auctions, where a man who speaks way too fast is taking bids from rich people lifting a paddle.Middle class and down do have to go to the slave market, which creates opportunities for displaying slaves in different ways. The slaver selling to the middle and upper middle class will have a proper tent set up, where people can walk in and see the merchandise without having to endure the hustle and bustle of the market itself, there's no prices on the girls either, the middle class enjoys haggling, so slavers only speak of the price when negotiating.The peasants shop at open air stalls, where their main concern is the health or current state of the slave girls they're buying, no one wants to buy a slave that's just gonna fall ill as soon as you get home after all, and this is where you see lower class slave girls of some rarity engaging on this behavior. the rat and bunny girls know what the deal is, so they just stand there chained up, just hoping someone kind would buy them, while something rarer, like a catgirl for example, is out there trying to get herself sold, and all she's doing is tripping herself. The last thing people buying here want is a mouthy slave, this combined with the higher price only means no one is even looking to buy her no mater how much waving she does.
>>11567968>rich-only auctions>Middle class and down do have to go to the slave marketFurther down the economic ladder the more "dehumanizing" the experience of being sold is for slaves.For the rich it isn't just an auction but an entire social event, before the bidding starts men can meet the slaves for sale.Maybe even bring your wife or favored slaves, to see if they'll get along with the newbies.Elves(and others) know even though they're not human they're still a cut above the rest.Middle Class slave markets are just that, light groping, body examination and maybe a few quick questions for the slaves.For the most part it's between the buyer and slaver, Master's wife might be present but for her it's almost like shopping for a new pet.Slaves here know things are out of their hands and it's best they learn this sort of helplessness fast.>peasants shop at open air stalls, where their main concern is the health or current stateAll in for the dystopian aspect of slavery, Medical charts attached to collars with clear price plates arround their necks.Read her details, check the financing options, etc. no where does the slave's personality come up in the decision makingIt's no different from buying farm tools. Low class slaves can feel it, they're not "people adjacent" or even pets.They're something to be bought and sold. Maybe if she serves master well she'll earn the status of house pet later.
How many diffrent social classes there should be for slaves? I like the idea of slaves trying to climb up the social ladder, desperately trying to stand out and get their owner's attention one way or another. Yet they can't really sabotage each other either, or at least the #1 slave at the top remains untouched since they know messing with her would backfire hard if their master even found out.Love me some pampered, high class concubines (and seething normie slaves glaring at them from the shadows)
>>11568154>For the rich it isn't just an auction but an entire social eventFor the rich, buy an elf or another rare type of slave monster girl is just the bragging rights, they have plenty of ratgirls on staff for the actual menial work. They dress them up like dolls and use them to bluster and posture at social events, they might get used at some point, either for sex or for entertainment. Like owning a Ferrari, it's there mostly so you can tell people you bought a Ferrari, to show your friends, take pictures with it, and you do drive it one every six months or so.>Middle Class slave markets are just thatIn keeping with the car analogy, buying a slave for the middle class is akin to going to a dealership to buy a new car, salesmen are trying every dirty trick in the book, the buyers are hemming and hawing, there's haggling over prices, threats of walking out, etc. and then there's the people that just show up, buy a slave, and pay cause they don't want to do the whole song and dance, they just want a new monster girl.>All in for the dystopian aspect of slavery, Medical charts attached to collars with clear price plates arround their necks.I like the idea, The slave name, the price, not even a medical chart, just a vaccination record. The men, dirty and sweaty from the fields or the mines come in to grope and feel them, not in the unmentionables, but their arms and legs, these men need muscle, not softness. They have their human wives for sex, they need labor, help in the fields, help moving ore, help at home while the wife shits out her 8th child, etc.
>>11568183>How many diffrent social classes there should be for slaves?Was thinking that this sort of thing is just kept simple, a slave's social class is decided by her price.You have your cheap rapidly breeding slaves for menial tasks, IE bunny girls handling menial/domestic work.They're to be kept in line, out of sight and "working in the background".In the middle you have cat/dog girls, etc. the typical monster girls.They're treated well enough as pets, many men and women genuinely care for them.It's here that sex/mating for the sake of having more slaves is less rape and gets into "for the fun of it".Often they're given actual names as a sign of master's affection.>get their owner's attention>pampered, high class concubines and seething normie slavesDescribes the life of top slaves (Elves and exotics) well enough.But I'd like to add they aren't only for sex and pampering, even if that's most of their lives.Higher ranked slaves often hold the whip hand over others, so it's not only their pampered life that sets them apart.Always fun when they're keeping each other down
>>11568337>human wives for sex, they need labor>help at home while the wife shits out her 8th childNgl that's honestly the best part of this fantasy slavery setting, human women being place above the slave races.Even if they're 2nd class citizens under their men, women still have the luxury of having domestic servants.Means women are free to have hobbies, studies, art, etc. /d/ fetishes for pregnancy/breeding stemming from human supremacy.Women expected to have as many children as possible cause the slave races need male masters to serve, daughters to lord over servants, etc.Might also play into a bit of cuckqueening, husband and wife is vanilla monogamy but fucking/breeding your slaves is accepted as normal.Everyone knows the slave races can only ever produce females. Wives see it something like house pets having pups.Or It's expected as a man's duty to mate with slaves, society/the household needs more labor to support it.
>>11568466If you want to cuckqueen a bit, you can do the reverse of the dowry. Instead of the man, it's the woman who has to show up with a sex toy or two for her future husband.Men can get their needs met by the female slave races, even a rat/bunnygirl will do, but this is bad socially for men, it's like openly hiring a prostitute IRL. However, there's a problem, in order for them to have a lineage, regardless of gender, he MUST produce offspring with a human woman. Any offspring from a slave has no rights of inheritance because under the law, they're not people, they're part of the estate.Since all a man needs a woman for is children, they need to come up with more, because excepting barren wombs, any woman can have children. So the tradition of bringing a sex slave for her future husband has long been part of normal courtship. it's seen not just as added value for the marriage, but as a sign that the woman is seeking to invest in a future, since the sex slave can be bred, or just be sold herself. Think of it like the tradition of inheritance jewelry, it was given to brides so in hard times they could sacrifice it for the family, or in worst case scenarios, use it to escape an abusive husband. Same deal here. The higher class of man, the higher the price or amount of slaves a woman must come with.>A peasant marriage it's a single slave, often one from their former household, like the former nanny of the bride, showing up to take care of the future children.>Middle class people start to get into genuine sex slaves, trained to please their new owners, young enough to maximize the amount of births.>Upper middle class people get into lineage and breeding stock, like horse people get IRL, girls famous for their body or beauty and bred for it.>Rich people are the same, just turned to 11. If you don't bring the offspring of that girl the countess showed up with to her marriage you might as well not bother, everyone wants a slice of that succulent little thing
>>11568944Human women can own things? Hell naw.
>>11568944>cuckqueen a bit, you can do the reverse of the dowry>slave for her future husband... sex slave can be bred, or just be sold herselfEven better when wives actively push their husbands(and sons) to fuck arround with the house slaves.Any good mother wants her daughters married off with a proper dowry, so the Eugenics, raising slaves is overseen by wives.Middle class it might simply be managing fertility cycles, keeping maids and breeders on task, etc.Further up the social ladder the more your wife gets into slave breeding, she's hand picking girls, best traits, training them herself, etc.The more pampered a woman is the more she's getting cuckqueened.>genuine sex slaves, trained to please their new ownersMight also play with the idea of "it's not cheating if" it's the slave.Wives having fun with a pet bitch or the young master has his sexual awakening with a few elf maids...Like many of the sexual morals that govern human relations takes a /d/ turn and simply don't apply to slave races
>>11569028>>11569025>Human women can own things?Think of it more like "watching the pets" or helping her husband or father oversee his slaves.In the case of reverse dowry, Bride's father is just sending off his daughter with a few slaves as gifts.Have to make sure the new couple have a good start.
>>11569025Like >>11569030 said, the dowry is the father giving you slaves. Hell, even in real life, a dowry is given man to man (The potential fiance giving her father some money and goats for the daughter's hand in marriage) so I dunno where you got it in your head that it's about women owning things.
