Specifically femboys that look like early transitioners or estroginized. Femboys are at their hottest when they have small doorbell boobs.New OP image, finally>previous thread:https://archived.moe/d/thread/11536859/>To addWhen responding to people, make sure to post porn so this thread doesn't get too chatty. Try not to post anything AI>Question of the dayWhat are some other feminine features you like on a boy like this?
>>11580455>t. Op from last threadYou guys didn't like the original image? :(
>>11580455I like feminine faces!
>>11580455>QOTDA fat ass and pretty face is obvious but one this that's really slept on is a snatched waist. If you're fem, you need to be using a corset regularly.
>>11580499Won't corsets just give you a superficial shape rather than actually shape your body though?
>>11580499The perfect male body
>>11580483it was getting stale
>>11580596I love this artist so much it's unreal
>>11580587Love how small the dick looks compared to such a curvy and squishy body don't get me wrong but amazonian beauties are still cute
Imagine getting cockmogged by a guy more feminine than you
>>11580741Literally me all the time (8in)
>>11580503>Won't corsets just give you a superficial shape rather than actually shape your body though?Wear it long enough (and tight enough) it can apparently reshape ribs.
>>11580785Unironically got into PE because that happened once. I was 6.5" at the time. Now im 8.25". Girth's kinda shit though. Still working on it.
>>11580741I think it's hot, especially if I'm still the one fucking him anyway
>>11580794How do you work on girth?
>>11580843>>11580741I cockmog my bf and I'm confused for a woman IRL way too often. He doesn't mind.
>>11580904That's hot.
>>11580741Speaking from experience, a lot of guys get super insecure about that. If I wasn't both a grower and super into chastity, it would actually be a pretty big problem.
>>11581009Literally me. Trap, 8in hard, 4 soft. It really sucks.
>>11580926Fits great with both of our fantasies. He's into forcefem so ofc he finds it hot to forcefem a guy who used to be kinda chadlite.I always wanted to be the hung "gf"/trap so it works out well for me as well. With that said, I was hoping my dick would shrink a bit. It didn't.>>11581009>>11581031Also speaking from experience, the guys who are insecure about it are probably not worth your time.
>>11580901You're supposed to use a pump every day but I'm too poor for that. I've just been clamping.
>>11581031I'm a little bit smaller than you, but my spread is bigger since I sit around two, two and a half inches soft. It's the best with women since the look of surprise it spawns is always golden. >>11581070>the guys who are insecure about it are probably not worth your time.You're not necessarily wrong, but sometimes even decent guys have their insecurities they have to work through.
>>11581102>best with women since the look of surprise it spawns is always goldenLmao I've had a woman say "holy shit" when she pulled down my panties. They never believe me when I tell them my size.
>>11580785>>11580794>>11580843>>11580904>>11581031>>11581102>>11581103Why the fuck does everybody have a big dick all of a sudden? Could've sworn the average was 5.5.
>>11581151Almost every trap I know is above average and wants to be smaller. I'm really not sure why that happens.
>>11581151My dick is ~15cm (so 5.9?! not good with burger measurements).My bf is ~13cm. In theory, it shouldn't be a huge difference. But in practice his does look visibly enough smaller.>>11581154>I'm really not sure why that happensAGP (bi)faggotry. It's not complicated.Almost all traps are some form of AGP, but without the tranny ideology and crazy ideas.Iwnbaw, but I still wish my dick were smaller or, even better, non existent.t. >>11580904
>>11581165AGP isn't real.
>>11581154Lucky me just being average then.
>>11581154I do this body fat has something to do with it. Kinda like how some girls say twinks have bigger dicks than buff dudes when in reality, skinny guys look bigger when compared to the rest of their body.>>11581165>Almost all traps are some form of AGP, but without the tranny ideology and crazy ideas.What do you mean by "crazy ideas"?
>>11581166Meh, then whatever you're calling being horny/aroused at the idea of being as feminized as possible /shrug>>11581173>What do you mean by "crazy ideas"?1. Belief that you are aKchUaLLy a WoMaN because you took estradiol and an AA2. Commie shit3. Insistence that the guy they hook up with is aKchUaLLy straight"trans" activism has been an unmitigated disaster for gender nonconforming males.
>>11581166No it's definitely real. I fap to myself in the mirror. >>11581177This entire post is true.
>>11580587>Modest, soft tits>Slight, but noticeable abs and obliques>tiny bit of tummy>Soft ass, plushy thighs>Androgynous face, with contrasting masculine and feminine features>Eithet a short, but thick cock, or a long, slender one with a nice curve. Either way, can't quite get all the way hard, caps out at a semisoft
>>11581177>1. Belief that you are aKchUaLLy a WoMaN because you took estradiol and an AAYeah. Gender is a social construct >2. Commie shitCapitalism sucks>3. Insistence that the guy they hook up with is aKchUaLLy straightFair, more times than not the people going after trans women are bi. Doesn't mean a straight guys can't find a Trans woman attractive and/or sleep with one>"trans" activism has been an unmitigated disaster for gender nonconforming males.Where's the problem with this? Just be gnc if you want. Nobody forces anybody to troon.
>>11581205>just take on another politically charged labelNTA but no thanks. I liked when I was allowed to call myself a trap until I wasnt allowed to anymore.
>>11581154Testosterone ironically enough has a negative correlation with dick size. Dicks atrophe with none, but that's due to the loss of nightly erections to keep the tissue loose, rather than a direct influence on size. Many traps/trannies have lower than average testosterone to begin with, which means bigger dicks on average.Reminder that your body does not care what your definition of masculine and feminine are when it gets testosterone or estrogen.
>>11581205This post is the gayest thing in this thread. You're making humiliation fetishes cringe.
>>11581205they're cooking you but you're rightexcept:>Just be gnc if you want. Nobody forces anybody to troon.there is an immense stigmatization of the "femboy" label in queer circles on twitter, with some trans women even outright saying they don't think gnc men are valid and should just troon outobviously, these are stupid, bitter people, who shouldn't be taken seriously or assumed to represent the dominant consensus, but its still a growing problem a lot of trans women are backsliding into essentialist radfem talking points when it comes to gnc men, which is ironic. a lot of trans women talk about femboys the way terfs talk about trans women.the especially tragic thing is when some poor trans girl internalizes it and it mixes with gender dysphoria and moral ocd and they end up catastrophizing about being a rapist ogre moid by fact of birth
>>11581232>on twitterI faced this in person. Transman told my friend that I was an "egg." I'm glad my friend stood up for me, I hate shit like that.
>>11581232>a lot of trans women talk about femboys the way terfs talk about trans womenWish more people realize this. But femboys have zero representation.
>>11581252>femboys have zero representation.yeah its a problem that runs deep. society perpetually malds about the very premise of feminine men
>>11581335How the fuck did we get "men can turn into women" before "men are allowed to be feminine"? I remember for a time in the 00s it was like "men are allowed to wear pink" but that disappeared entirely.
>>11581210>>just take on another politically charged labelNobody said that. Anon said he wanted to just be gnc. Just do it then>>11581232>there is an immense stigmatization of the "femboy" label in queer circles on twitter, with some trans women even outright saying they don't think gnc men are valid and should just troon outI partly agree. Femboys have a negative connotation with them in online spaces but its mostly because femboys tend do genuinely be horrible people online. They tend to be very transphobic and get suprised when people get angry at it. Ill admit, trannies do tend to call femboys eggs a lot but in their defense, most femboys are trans (or at least would benifit from estrogen). My biggest peice of evidence being with a bunch of femboys I used to follow. Due to personal reasons, I lost access to anything online for a solid year and a half. When I got back online, most of the femboys I followed either transitioned or stared estrogen. Most trannies coped with the femboy label when they were younger. Motivating other femboys to flat out skip that phase is kind of predatory, but understandable. >>11581252>>11581335>But femboys have zero representation.You guys have a bunch of representation, what are you talking about? They're just not cute online boys and are more akin to caked up flamers since thats what you kind of have to do once you reach a certain point.>>11581212That's not how that works anon...
>>11581205>>11581405>Capitalism sucksCapitalist democracies are the only places where it's not only legal but possible to be both a troon and a titty growing femfag.All socialist countries repress femfags, even the "tolerant" ones. You think it was allowed in the supposedly tolerant DDR to take estradiol and bica for a fetish? Haha, no!The ideation of a genocidal ideology (communism killed 100M+ people and it outpaces even Islam in terms of bloodlust) is the number 1, 2 and 3 problem in terms of brutally insane ideas that trannies hold. And you crazies drag all of the rest of us down with you.When I'm not presumed a tranny, I'm asked whether I'm a commie. This shit is going out of hand.>Nobody said thatBollocks. 10 years ago it was cute to be a trap and a man in a dress (which is what I still am and will always be). Now, because of trans activism, I'm assumed a gigacommie retard or some other form of political extremist or even a sexual predator and a threat to women.>stared estrogenBeen on estrogen for 7 years now. That doesn't make me a woman though. We can have as many surgeries as we want, we'll never be women. And that's fine. Yet that's what you don't accept because you hold a crazy and totalist view.>>11581248same>>11581339Transactivism. That's how.
>>11581481What does estidiol actually do to a male body?
>>11581481I have to apologize, when I cracked a few days ago after having been on E for 2 years I was tempted for a while to call all femboys eggs, and I had to restrain myselfcurious, but would you say your prepubertal self was a girl or boy or neither?
>>11581656NTA but was and am always a boy. So are you. Stop pretending this isn't a fetish.
>>11581656>would you say your prepubertal self was a girl or boy or neither?Definitely boy. I am now an adult man. I am also a fetishist (masochistic emasculation fetish), a sexually submissive faggot and an estrogenized body moder (in addition to HRT, I also had some light work done on my face and trach shave). But none of that changes the fact that I'm a dude. Not even being routinely confused for a woman.>>11581661I'm even willing to entertain the idea that for some people it isn't a fetish, or it isn't just (or primarily) a fetish. I never had anything with trannies. In fact I'm good friends with some of the older ones whom I see as brothers/sisters in arms in the race to get ourselves to look closer to what we want, regardless of reasons.I do however do it for fetish reasons. And lately this has suddenly become a problem for (younger) trannies who feel the need to insist that I must be like them. Which is just the "left wing" version of the "right wing" scold which also used to despise me for being a femfag.Trans activism/wokeism (whatever you wanna call it) is basically repression with a different lingo. In the end they also aim to police gender non-conforming men.
>>11581661lmao no I was just told I was a boy and ran with it, ignoring it basically, like when you are taught to wash your hands after coming home from outside, there is no hesitation behind it, no meaning, it did not come from within me at all, and therefore it has no place defining who I amthe "fetish" on the other hand is all my doing and comes from within, therefore it takes precedenceI just had to be isolated for like a month without speaking to anyone and then one day I looked down at my frail estrogenized body and realized I have become a girl, a girl who was once told she was a boy and then raped by T which was just used to make her further believe that she was a boyshe did know male puberty was coming and that is why she kept diligently stabbing her heart every day so she could get used to the pain to one day be a productive member of societythen after getting on E she kept calling herself a boy because she had just always done that, "I am just a boy on E" not realizing that she would have been called a girl and internalized that she was a girl if she had not been coerced into male pubertyits making me cry typing this out
>>11581675Boo hoo man
>>11581674Fair enough. But I don't consider anyone who transitioned beyond maybe 2010 legitimate. Every old school tranny I knew was pretty "normal" all things considered. The newer ones are just weird and embarrass the hell out of me. >>11581675Case in point.
>>11581674I can't imagine being able to be embarrassed about something when it happens for the tenth time, yet you continue to derive pleasure from it, you are blessedI am now imagining an evil you that is claiming to be a man for fetish reasons
>>11581679
>>11581677>Every old school tranny I knew was pretty "normal" all things consideredHence why I mentioned the old ones. I still am friends with a few old school trannies (who began transition between 2005 and ~2012), with two in fact very close friends. They're even more pissed off with trans activism than I am because they're now older and married so they don't need to worry about "passing" but instead of being seen as quirky women, they're lumped politically with the loony troons. These are trannies with a very boring job and a boring marriage life. They don't want or need any of this shit that's being imposed on them.The most "normal" trannies of the newer gens are basically guys like us and the trannymaxxers (who, unlike me, make an even more serious effort to pass). And it's largely because they hold the same ideas of the trannies of old: we're not literally women and we'll never be. We just want to look like one as best as we can, and the better we do, the more likely we just become "socially female" but that's about it.Meanwhile, modern trans activism is basically anti-reality. And who knew? The majority doesn't like to be bullied. What a shocker.>>11581680I'm afraid I don't understand your comment. Sorry, I'm a dumb european estrogenized faggot, after all.I'm evil for "claiming" to be a man?I don't derive pleasure nor embarrassment from being confused for a woman. I find it a bit funny, and always have (hence: a trap). But funny in a playful way not in a "haha, you faggot, I got you fooled".Masochistic Emasculation Fetish is being 'forcibly' feminized and treated as such by a much more conventional masc man.
>>11581692I find the more self aware they are and the less politically and narcissistically motivated they are the more normal they are. Like that retarded tantrum earlier screams lack of self awareness and maximum stupidity. I'm a man. Not a girl. Definitely not a coddled child. I'm feminine as fuck. But i own being a man. This idea that if god forbid someone said theyre a man their life is over is fucking stupid. Every tranny I knew when i was younger would just be like "yeah no shit I'm a man. And your point is?" And just be over it. Gender is supposed to not be real and yet they will scream if you "misgender"
>>11581692no, no, evil as in opposite, my badI never intended to say you would be embarrassed about being confused for a woman specifically, the point is you are being embarrassed about *something* to fuel your fetish and turn you on, what is that something? where is the masochism? what part of you is hurting?
>>11581701NTA there are 5 instances of the word embarrass ITT and none of them are relevant to anything you mentioned. You ESL or something?
>>11581676>>11581677>>11581679Can you pricks fuck off and shut up?I am a feminine man on estrogen. I identify as male. My circle of friends is mostly trans women, and none of them have tried to earnestly insinuiate or insist that I'm actually a girl.Someone pours their heart out and you get pissy, call tgem crazy, misgender them, and write walls of text ofAt this point im inclined to think you actually are a repressing trans woman, and its not because you're a feminine man on estrogen, its because that combined with this level of long winded bitching and moaning about the crazy trans ideology is something I have only seen from perma-manmoder reppers on /tttt/But again, thats just a hunch, its not for me to say>>11581675Im sorry you had to live with that, and I'm sorry that guys (or just one guy, more likely) here are being such catty faggots about it.
>>11581708>>11581675Pretending to be different people with the same hysterics, paragraph patterns, and punctuation patterns is wild.
>>11581698>yeah no shit I'm a man. And your point is?literally how I reply. The reaction is usually either some laughter or a sigh of relief. The latter is a new one and it comes from people who dealt with loony troons who go apeshit for being gendered masc.>Gender is supposed to not be real and yet they will scream if you "misgender"For real, lol.I just don't "correct" people at all. I live in a country with a heavily gendered language. So it's a "referendum" on me "passing" multiple times a day. It's a fun game to play.I think a lot of these new trannies also get into trouble because they can't differentiate fetish from being normal.Like, I do dress fem nearly always. But I just don't dress like an anime character, a pornstar or a 12 year old girl. There are great dresses for adults that look gorgeous on a male body. Long (well taken care of!) hair, twinky/youthful face and normal dress go a long way. Heck, women sometimes stop me randomly on the street and basically ask me where I bought the stuff that's on me. Some figure it out in an instant that I'm a fag, others only realize when I answer (i never did the voice training shit, too cringe for me).>>11581701>where is the masochism?Isn't it obvious?I'm a guy who has gone to rather extreme lengths (long term hrt, surgery) to be as emasculated as possible. In the process I forfeited my chances with women (I'm still technically bifag, but let's be realistic here) as my dick and balls shrank and grew boobs. All so I can be a cuter and better submissive boiwife to my guy.It's all kink, anon.
>>11581748In my country the only people who wear all that shit are male fetishists so it's very easy to spot them. >sigh of reliefThis is something I notice too. Even in the most "I hate gays/trannies" person I've met has been cool with me after not reacting like a moron for an objective truth. People are more tired of tranny behavior than actual trannies it seems.
>>11581754>male fetishistsAnon, I am a male fetishist.I'm just also not insane. The dolling up is for at home or for specific kink events. For day to day life there's basic normal (yet still fem coded) clothes.>People are more tired of tranny behavior than actual trannies it seemsCertainly tracks, even though my country doesn't really have loony troons IRL. But people do see shit online. And they're always happy to see it doesn't work like that here IRL.>Even in the most "I hate gays/trannies" person I've met has been cool with meLiteral Orthodox priests had curious questions. When I asked why they ask, the answer surprised me: "You like what you do and you embraced your sin. Your problem. But I have men in my congregation who don't want this yet feel the urge to it. How can I advise them if I base my knowledge on some remote foreigner online with an axe to grind?"I was pretty surprised (mostly pleasantly) that even most "homophobes" are more like weirdophobes.Also, since I'm not literally a woman, I actually don't complain about the catcalls. Sometimes they're actually welcomed :3
>>11581763Where you live sounds lovely anon. Though I'm sure you have issues all your own, i do wish my country wasn't the epicenter of crazy trannies. Where I live is pretty bad. I can see and even a part of me welcomes a very strong conservative pushback because if I'm tired of this behavior than I'm sure normal people are too.I will miss the catcalls though. Love them.
>>11581768>Where you live sounds lovelySocially, yeah. I'm in Eastern Europe (the richer part, not the bombed part). The commies used to ban faggotry and imprison trannies and guys like me. This recent history has prevented the moving of trannies towards the far-Left. So most of the western propaganda simply didn't land here because it's all foreign and devoid of the lived experiences of our elders.Meanwhile, the "conservatives" here are not quite like your conservatives. Here they're way more capitalistic but also more socially libertarian (but not progressive in a 2020s western sense but more like classical liberals of the 19th century - live and let live).So "leave the fags alone" is a wide majority consensus. In return however, here nobody tried to troon the kids or any of the crazy shit that were attempted in the US. So the consensus held.The issues are more economical. It's expensive (purchase power wise) to be a fetishist femboy/troon here. It's a rich man's project. Well, not really rich, but definitely well-off. Which, again, selects for more well-adjusted people.>I will miss the catcalls thoughWill miss? You think they're going away?
>>11581777I think we're going to see a pushback in my country so hard that it'll be the end of tranny shit. The retard protest that just happened where a bunch of insane and ugly trannies did hrt outside a hospital because they are mad the hospital won't troon the kids was some awful optics and they keep making it worse for people like me who just want to be cute and wear dresses and play video games.
>>11581782I'm almost willing to bet you're wrong.Being too much online has a fucked up effect on people. I realize the irony of saying that here, but I'm bored at work, lol.Still, the point stands: Algorithmic social media can make one believe all sorts of either outright false things or give one the impression that a phenomenon is bigger than it actually is.I saw the piece of news you mention. Very weird and very fucked up. But I also saw it on fox news, the place that reports THE MOST about trannies, even outpacing fag and queer oriented publications.That's not to say the backlash isn't real or deserved (it's both, imo). But it is to say that it's made to look bigger than it actually is by intentionally amplifying pieces of news that would've otherwise gone unnoticed.For the most part, even the comment section on fox news is mostly of your position. You'll still get your catcalls :3And I doubt dresses and skirts will go away. If anything, the opposite has been happening. 10 years ago finding a skirt or a dress specifically cut for a male body was basically unthinkable. Now even the New York Times offers suggestions. Gender nonconformity will not only make a comeback, but it will be comfier. You'll see. Everyone likes a cute femfag that can both deliver and take a good joke.
>>11581813I'm not getting my feeling about this from reactions online. I live in one of the cities where this shit is common. Pride month was way more subdued this year than in the past few years. Normal people I've spoken to have had enough of it. The Ts have made it worse for everyone.
>>11581818>Pride month was way more subdued this year than in the past few yearsThe cutting of USAID has also gave permission to a lot of previously bullied corporations to withdraw support.This is a necessary correction. It will weed out the weirdos, the grifters, the theyfabs and all of the rest of what conservatives (correctly!) call the lgbt mafia.Most of the "allies" (including the "proud trans") were/are there for the grift. Now that the grift dries up, things will rearrange in a more normal way. Trust the process. The same thing happened in Amsterdam, except it started in 2018. The lockdowns and the loss of funding has gradually weeded out a lot of the extremists who were producing the optics nukes precisely for attention.>Normal people I've spoken to have had enough of itOh, I can believe that!The clips I've seen from the Pride festivals in the US are at a level of degeneracy that makes Amsterdam, Berlin or Vienna look prudish by comparison.It also helps that a lot of them are criminals (some sex criminals too). Remember the uber kinky Pride from 2023 in Canada? Yeah, the organizer is now in jail for diddling kids - https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/fort-st-john-man-charged-with-child-sex-crimes-1.7076997All we can do is to trust the process, relentlessly bully the cretins and just be good people. A very passing femfag being a normal person does more to drive acceptance up than any activism.
that's crazy anyways pic related
the only boobs I ever touched are mine, lol
man you guys are insane
>>11581873oh no
>>11580741Hot af. Literally my best experience was with a tgirl that brutally cockmogged me, like a whole 5cm longer and way wider yet actively wanted to never use it. She was hugely into feminization and was a bit obsessed about becoming a bit like >>11581668 or >>11580499, to the point she considered orchi. I never felt more appreciated. >>11581070Anon, your bf is living the dream.
>>11581883>Anon, your bf is living the dream.Then he'd better marry me soon :3Also, I'm living the dream too.Why are you still not with your tranny gf if you say she appreciated you that much?
>>11581885Quite honestly, just distance issues. She went on to live very far away and we couldn't save the relationship. Parted on amicable terms tho, she did teach me a lot and it was a huge confidence boost to learn big bottoms wouldn't necessarily look down on me for being average. I really hope she's doing well and that I was as impactful in a good way on her as she was on me. Besides getting a fatter ass and possibly losing a few cm lol.>Then he'd better marry me soon :3Also, I'm living the dream too.Glad to read that anon , how did you two met? (he also better cage you for a while after marriage).
>>11581888>how did you two met?More or less accidentally at a queer kink event. I drew his attention because I made no secret at being visibly annoyed with a tranny who insisted I must be a woman.The fact that we lived relatively close to each other made things easier. As soon as he mentioned he's into forcefem I wanted to know him really well. Turned out we fit quite well as life partners so 6 months later we were moving together. That was in late 2023.>he also better cage you for a while after marriageAnon, that's been mandatory for over 2 years now.Over the long run I want to be like your ex-gf. Either orchi or SRS. Preferably 'forced' by him.In the original comment you replied to I said I was hoping my dick would shrink. Sadly, it didn't. Years of estrogen, caging, avoiding erections, using vibrators (no jerking off for me at all), and still barely moved the needle, so to speak. Balls shrank, which is nice, tho.While i will never actually be a woman, we both know that the best thing is for me to be the best boiwife possible.>big bottoms wouldn't necessarily look down on me for being averageAverage is preferable, actually.Size queens talk a big game online but in reality taking 5+ inch dick is hard work and some simply can't do it.
>>11581899>Turned out we fit quite well as life partners so 6 months later we were moving together. That was in late 2023.That's a good time to now the relationship has a lot of potential... Maybe I should start going to qeer kink events lol, though until now it hasn't been my thing at all. >Anon, that's been mandatory for over 2 years now.Oof man, he must be a way better key holder than I for sure, at most we managed to do locktober + NNN. Not that my ex was really desperate to use it but it was kind of fun. It's really weird you haven't shrinked in that much time, have you tried dry humping? My ex really liked it, especially after we read that it could lead to impotency. She was 20cm when we started dating and by the end of it more like 18-ish, and she only got really hard when I was teasing her about clipping her so she'd become an emasculated, ball-less tranny (as per her own request). Don't get me wrong, I kinda liked her balls, pretty squishy, but whatever made her happy I guess. The thought about going all the way sometimes comes back to my mind.Btw, your AIslop makes me horny, I mean, bores me lol
>>11581748you said you do not derive embarrassment from being confused for a woman, therefore MEF does not apply there, you bring up your medical interventions so I assume you do feel bad about them specifically?
>>11581840I saw a bunch of words from a self hating boymoder (or hrt femboy). Idk what that was about.Anyways, do femboys let you suck thier tits while they stroke you?
>>11581903>key holderTo be fair, he doesn't need to be lately. I switched to fufu clips (comfier to wear, fully prevents erections) and I put it on voluntarily as soon as I wake up. No longer having morning woods also makes it very easy. Being flat down there is also awesome esthetics, especially with some of the outfits I prefer. Also, makes it compelling to sit down to pee.>locktober + NNNWe don't do NNN. I usually don't feel the need to nut if he fucks me really well and cums buckets.Also, we figured out a way to make me cum hands free. So NNN for me but not for him would not quite be possible.>really weird you haven't shrinked in that much timeIKR? It's one of the reasons I want at least orchi.>dry humpingIt's a myth that it can lead to impotency. Prone masturbation can lead to temporary ED, but that'd require me to have erections. Ew, no.In reality, penile shrinkage is hit or miss. It's a luck issue. Otoh, estrogen-resistant dick opens up the most SRS options.I'll let him dictate the pace, but the destination has to be with me permasub.>The thought about going all the way sometimes comes back to my mindI'm not marrying my bf if he doesn't :3>slopOh. I'm just trying to stay vaguely in the mood since he has a free day so when I'm done here at work I'm going straight home to be plapped.
>>11581917>Being flat down there is also awesome estheticsGosh anon, you're quite the perfect sissy lol, we never managed to put her in a flat cage, only a smaller one. It's really cool he managed to make you cum without even looking at your dick, I honestly feel a bit jealous (desu I only made her cum handsfree after lots of effort and foreplay). >It's a myth that it can lead to impotency. Prone masturbation can lead to temporary ED, but that'd require me to have erections. Ew, no.Loool her exact thoughts, when we started dating she had the strongest erections and hated it (we talked about it and she worked out a lot as she was quite buff, maybe that increased her T so she cut anything that wasn't leg/butt related from her routine). After the first 8 months the raging boners were gone, except when I took her out of chastity because she built up enough hornyness to basically ride me, then I'd threaten to castrate her, she got hard and came dry humping, literally begging to get ED, and back to the cage to repeat the cycle. >I'll let him dictate the pace, but the destination has to be with me permasub.Quite the bratty sub, aren't we? Jk, I got into this stuff basically bc she forced me into it and I found her being so demanding about me emasculating her really hot. Hope your bf fucks you good today, and the day he clips and marries you is not too far. Just a question, is it even possible to have orchi but they remove only one testicle at a time? The last time I was with my ex she saw this doujin where it happened and the idea made her cum buckets. Ofc I won't talk about that if I ever met a big dicked bottom that seems to be uncomfortable with their length btw. >Oh. I'm just trying to stay vaguely in the mood I mean, I really liked it kek.
>>11581921>quite the perfect sissyFar from perfect, lol. But yeah, I'm basically a more committed sissy. Aspiring transsexual, maybe.>flat cageLook up fufu clips. They're different from a flat cage. A flat cage wouldn't really fit me, lol.But we found a tranny who sells personalized fufu clips so she could accommodate me.>managed to make you cum without even looking at your dickIt took a bit of effort and training (not that I'm complaining about the training) to figure out the exact position. My prostate shrank from so much estrogen so it's not a 100% thing. But in the correct position at the right angle, it works most of the time.Also, since his girth is decent enough that it disrupts the blood flow, I don't get an erection either so I basically cum handsfree and limp.>work outYeah, I reorganized that years ago. The gymrat to femboy pipeline is an intentional effort.I didn't lose that much upper body muscle as I had hoped, but with the tits growing, I'm okay with the progress. It's also way easier for him to overpower me, which is really nice.>boners were gone, except when I took her out of chastity because she built up enough hornyness to basically ride meThat no longer really happens to me. My erections have definitely gotten softer over the last 6 months even at maximum horny.>she forced me into itCute. After all, we bottoms hold more control than real men think :3On a more serious note, my guy was into this already so the only question is one of pace. And even there it's only details. We both find it hot that I'm slowly getting more and more feminized. A fast transformation wouldn't bother me but he wouldn't find it as hot.>is it even possible to have orchi but they remove only one testicle at a time?Yes. Unilateral orchi. Specifically fetishists like me routinely opt for it. I won't, but the possibility is there.It doesn't make much of a difference if one has been on HRT for years. But it does make a difference for those who aren't on E.
>>11581927>Look up fufu clips.Just did, this knowledge is worth gold, oh great feminization wizard. A pity we didn't try it on her.>My prostate shrank from so much estrogen so it's not a 100% thingAt some point I was afraid that'd happen to her and we bought topical T, idk if it worked but I used to finger her with it in the hopes it'd make it easier to give her prostate orgasms. >I basically cum handsfree and limpActually jealous of your bf anon, only once did we manage that and even then she wasn't entirely limp, but not really hard either since she upped her dosage of E and prog. Every single other instance she came was either caged and straining against it or dry humping. >The gymrat to femboy pipeline is an intentional effort.It was kin of a surprise for me that existed and wasn't just only her, desu I saw a pic of her before HRT and she had the makings of a bodybuilder even, to the point even after half a year of no upper body workout, hormones and weight cycling she was still able to toss me around if she wanted to, although the difference was way less noticeable and I've always been on the twinkish side (I'm the anon who asked for workout advice on the other thread lol). My only real advantage over her was that I was way taller, but aside from that it amazed me sometimes she chose me instead of someone more conventionally masculine. >we bottoms hold more control than real men think :3Truthnuke, but I still dictated when and how she could cum so I'm fine lol.>A fast transformation wouldn't bother me but he wouldn't find it as hot.I definitely get him fr, emasculating a "male" is a process that should be savored and enjoyed step by step. In my case we took progress pics of her body and if nothing else, she definitely looked softer in the end (her butt, ofc, had grown the most).>Unilateral orchi.I'll make sure to remember that. At least twice she moaned "neuter me, at least one please" in my ear. I suppose she was a bit obsessed but so am I now.
>>11581940>we bought topical T, idk if it workedTopical T doesn't quite work like that, anon. Least of all on the prostate.Anal orgasms are nerve driven, not hormone driven. And unlike the muscles on the dick, are basically not influenced at all if you add topical T. At best it doesn't work, at worst it can cause some chemical irritation.>progMarvelous invention. Femboys, fetishists and trannies who don't use prog are legit missing out.If you ever get again with a tranny or feminization enthusiast of any kind, learn how to use vibrators. It's the best of both worlds. Long term it ruins erections (yay!) but also produces whole-body orgasms from the dick (even better sometimes through chastity/fufu clip).It's way easier for me to never jerk off ever again. I don't even crave it anymore. Women have definitely gatekept vibrators from us, I tell ya.>surprised the pipeline existedAnon, how do you think femboys look good? It's rarely just genetic luck. It's usually a combination of HRT and intentional exercise to encourage fem patterns. It's body moding after all.>she chose me instead of someone more conventionally masculineI'm sure your personality played a role (not joking at all).But on the physical/looks side I likely know the answer: It's easy to look fem/"unmanly" compared to a conventionally masc guy. But looking as unmanly as possible next to a twinkish guy? That's hard mode.>still dictated when and how she could cumThat's how it should be.>emasculating a "male" is a process that should be savored and enjoyedYeah, though too slow is also a drag. I want to and hope to spend the rest of my life with him. But as his boiwife not as eternal walker through the emasculation valley.>obsessedYeah, this fetish can become all-consuming and obsessive. And on his (and your) side there is no relief. At least estrogen keeps me a bit in check but real men get aroused non-stop. Not that I'm complaining, lol.
>>11581961>Topical T doesn't quite work like that, anonDeath.jpg. Well, we were young and dumb, I'll keep that in mind also, thank you...>learn how to use vibratorsWill do! The only thing I've kept aside from the cage is a buttplug that looked amazing on her but we also had a magic wand, didn't use that much tho... She also had her dildo.>how do you think femboys look good?I though it was just hrt and a lot of cardio lol, didn't expect an effeminate bottom who basically begs to be feminized on the third date and is 13cm shorter than myself to deadlift twice as much or have really strong biceps, okay?!>I'm sure your personality played a roleI... thank you anon, I guess so, we were pretty compatible after all, albeit both a bit autistic lol. >That's hard mode.It's a rather curious way to look at it but I guess it makes sense lol, maybe it is really time to change and properly evolve to twunk. That way at least when I'm choking my partner it will be a real threat (I'm pretty sure she could've just pushed me away if she wanted to, especially early on). I want to be my best version if I ever find another person like her.>Yeah, though too slow is also a drag. I want to and hope to spend the rest of my life with him. But as his boiwife not as eternal walker through the emasculation valley.Aww, anon, that's legit cute af, don't worry, I'm sure he's been doing a wonderful job and there's barely any masculinity left in your brain at least to take away.>At least estrogen keeps me a bit in check but real men get aroused non-stop. Not that I'm complaining, lol....That's it, I really hope he only takes one of your balls away and makes you beg and grovel for him to cut the other.
>>11581972>there's barely any masculinity left in your brain at least to take awayOh there's plenty in the brain. This fetish is the most malebrained thing possible lol.Women simply can't (and won't ever) understand the bond between a man and his boiwife.>hope he only takes one of your balls away and makes you beg and grovel for him to cut the otherHawt, altho my balls are dead from so much estrogen. Enough years on E and orchi becomes a medical necessity not just a fetishistic desire.Anyway, I'm soon off from work and will (more or less literally) run home to get fucked. Ugh, that does sound cringe. But whatever. I played "man" enough today at work. Need to be a good "girl".
>>11580483>You guys didn't like the original image? :(It's a good image, just needed a rest for a while.
>>11581998Hey anon, did he fuck your brains out? >Enough years on E and orchi becomes a medical necessity not just a fetishistic desire.Please tell me you're being serious. Don't give me false hopes of finding an estrogenized "male" partner I can eventually castrate, even if they're not that much into it...
>>11581998>Enough years on E and orchi becomes a medical necessityWhy?
>>11581165I dunno, doesn't AGP mean that your sexuality is incorrectly focused on yourself rather than potential partners? Im a trap and Im still into fucking women regardless.Maybe I just dont understand how this stuff works
>>11584262AGP is just some bullshit transphobes made up to pretend that they're self-fetishizing.
>>11584262AGP is autogynephilia, aka the reason why most modern day trans people transition, because it's a fetish they developed after watching sissy porn and they learned they don't have to put it back in the box when done since society is allowing it. As opposed to body dysmorphia and dysphoria which usually stems from early childhood, is 9/10 times outgrown, and is the classic real for trans people. >>11584449Lol
>>11584452Classic reason*But yeah.
>>11580455What even is this thread? I was under the impression everyone outside of /lgbt/ hated trannies? This entire thread is trannies with a wink and a nudge. What is up with yall? Also, every time this or a futa thread happens someone shows up to argue that everyone enjoying the thread is gay. This is just like the "blacked" shit. What are you guys doing? The fuck is going on?
>>11584452Oh course people on 4chan still believe a debunked theory is responsible for transwomen. Zero IQ behavior. America really is fucked.
>>11584528>AmericaNot in or from America but it's obvious it's a fetish because YOU'RE IN A FETISH THREAD.
>>11582820>did he fuck your brains out?Yes. And kept me busy, lol.>Please tell me you're being seriousI am very serious about orchi. Not sure how serious I am about other body modifications.>hopesIt's a rare fetish (although more common now than in the past). Its opposite (tops into forcefem) is also quite rare. Most fags are not into it.You did find one, but you let geography ruin it.>>11583287Long term use of AAs is way more dangerous.
>>11584533There can be multiple reasons someone commits to changing their gender, I'd imagine in most cases its a combination of realizations, mental disorders, and otherwise desires.Which makes it very reductive of a person to call it any one thing regardless of body dysphoria being a factor.Like how a guy that actually commits to body building isn't doing it for just one reason, but has multiple points of motivation. Where a guy that only has a singular motivation is much more likely to quit.
>>11584525lotsa folks just find this premise hot, simple as thati know theres a whole lot of arguin' in this particular thread but its easy enough to ignore it and enjoy the artworksthe secret is that even some trans folks enjoy this stuff since it's so adjacent <3
>>11580455Alright, I hate to be that person, but Bridget is a trans girl. Not a femboy. And please don't make me pull out Daisuke confirming it.
>>11585583Don't care nerd.
>>11585583No one cares tranny
>>11585583Its never worth arguing here, half refuse to see reason over a word the other cares too much.People think the character is very attractive regardless of political ideologies and personsl identical things.
>>11585583Nope, Bridget is still a guy in the original JP version, Daisuke's words aren't worth shit.
Is this a boy or a girl????
>>11585583You're in a thread about fetishizing tranny bodies where OP and every non-tranny is in denial about being attracted to trannies.
>>11585885Who said I was in denial about liking trannies?
>>11584525>was under the impression everyone outside of /lgbt/ hated trannies?Neah. m00t is ultimately agp. This site has always been pro-trap at the very least.And even the most aggressive tranny haters, if you press them enough, they admit that they're lashing out because they can't fuck one.>This entire thread is trannies with a wink and a nudgeKinda. The issue is really politics.Tranny ideology has gradually become so insane that it alienated everyone, including a huge chunk of de facto trannies.So a lot of femboys/traps/fetishists simply shrugged and continue to do their own thing without arguing anymore.To qualify to hang out with trannies these days requires a whole plethora of downright insane beliefs (like the belief that being called "sir" is genocide) and that's on top of extremist and marginal political beliefs about immigration, middle eastern politics or taxation.I (and increasingly more and more agp/gnc/femfags whatever you wanna call us) believe that it's okay to be heavily into being feminized (including by means hrt, surgeries and other body building/mod procedures) without believing that in doing so we become literally women. Me enjoying being sexually dominated by my bf and him cumming buckets the more feminized and submissive I become, doesn't make our relationship straight, it just makes us kinky faggots, AND THAT'S OKAY.>everyone enjoying the thread is gayThat is true, though. But there's also nothing wrong with being a faggot.
>>11585583I don't know shit about guilty gear but I do know Arksys fucked up with Bridget's transition. Why didn't they just make her have boobs?
>>11585606Yeah a lot of people have been so propagandized that they'll just refuse to accept their own identity or that of others because they think "but that'll make other team (the bad guys!) win and end the world!" All you can do is shake your head and focus on the cute drawings, this isn't the place to try and argue self-hating trans girls out of brainworms anyway, there's a whole board for that.
>>11586036I'm pretty confident that she does have boobs, they're just small and on a character model that isn't as exaggeratedly feminine or sexualized as most female characters in the game.
>>11586035This anon is correct except I'd argue the politics is why there is tranny hate. No one hated linetrap because that's before politics happened.
>>11586119It's both. The tranny ideology came first. The tranny hate is the (largely understandable) response.It's not even the sports thingy (as Americans believe). It's the whole extension to children and the pushing of extremism writ large. Fags, lesbians and generally gender-non-conforming people (trannies included) spanned the entire political spectrum until 2012-2014 when, suddenly, trannies sprinted towards the far-Left and excluded anyone who refused to follow along.Gee, who knew? You move so far away in a direction that nearly nobody wants and then wonder why there's a backlash.You can't keep telling the majority that you're being genocided for being called "sir" or that if they don't fork dollars to fund your preferences you're gonna chimp out or kys. Eventually, enough people will have enough of this lunacy and clap back. It was only a matter of time until that would happen. And it's not like there isn't enough material to attack on (trans death cults, polycules, grooming - all of those are real, even if not big).Fags gained acceptance by actively trying to integrate, not by promoting the 1980s bathhouses as the pinnacle of gay culture.Meanwhile the tranny 'mainstream' quite literally goes in the opposite direction. I get away with more stuff in my country because some of the american shit doesn't get here. But the younger ones still push for crazy stuff.And then there's the 'trutrans' stuff. Heaven forbid you're feminizing because you find it hot. You're only a tranny if you dreamed about being a girl at 5. None of this existed when linetrap was starting out.
Though it's understandable to want to try anyway when they keep posting retarded shit like the above, I get that.
>>11586140I blame trannies desu. No one had a problem with them until they got uppity.
>>11585476>Yes. And kept me busy, lol.Lmao nice, a good sub should end up so spent they don't even want to ask for anything in a while. >It's a rare fetish >You did find one, but you let geography ruin it.It's genuinely over then. I don't think I'll ever meet someone like her again (I know it sounds cliche af) but we parted on good terms so maybe I'll get to talk to her one day as the ball-less emasculated tgirl she always wanted to be. Or not. Good thing it isn't my only fetish, I guess.>>11585911>>11586036Genuinely think something between these two is the ideal "male" body. The huge thighs and squishy curves make them look all the more feminine and way too tempting to grope.
>>11585583>>11585586>>11585590>>11585749The truth is simple you delusional retards>flat Bridget"femboy" (real term: otokonoko)>boob Bridget"trans woman" (real term: newhalf)>Bridgettrap
>>11586261>I don't think I'll ever meet someone like her againDon't be such a doomer, anon. You don't know what can happen in life, especially if you do actively seek.The gymrat to femboy pipeline keeps churning out newfags. And if you're not rigid about age, your odds, while not stellar, are and will still be quite decent.Or, you can look up your ex and try again. Me and my guy already discussed this. If geography intervenes, we're not letting it happen. If he gets a better job somewhere else, I'm moving with him. If I get a job somewhere far away (quite a bit more likely these days), he's coming with me."You're not getting away from me, don't be silly." - actual quote from him :3
>>11586262What part of no one cares do you not understand?
let's give it up for "male" presenting nipple
>>11586313its the "not a futa" shitposter
>>11586962This little brat has infected my twitter like a virus
>>11586286You just said that and 2 anons who seem to be into the pipeline appeared on the feminization thread lol... Maybe I do have hope after all. I suppose you're right, after all I'm not yet 25. Don't think I'll be actively looking when I'm old tho lol, especially since 4-6 years seems to be my age diff limit. >You're not getting away from me, don't be silly." - actual quote from him :3That's... So incredibly sweet anon, I really wish you both the best of lives... But still hope he takes one ball away at a time and drags your transformation for as long as you both (he) enjoys it after putting the ring on you. I've thought about getting back in touch with my ex but the one time we did it, long ago btw, we both felt like it was only hurting us both after the mandatory horny talk (she was pretty proud of her booty gains tho).
>>11586962Genuine question. Why is it so hard for people to accept that this dude is a hrt femboy? The "cis male on HRT" bit has been a thing for some time now and that technically makes you trans. How does that take away from the character? >also it was surprisingly hard to find r34 of this character that wasn't dog shit. Wanted to keep it image related.
>>11588030I never read the manga the anime was based on so I can't confirm if the character is on HRT or if he just has gynecomastia(I have small man-boobs from puberty, used be self conscious about not having a flat chest as guy but I've learned to appreciate it)
>>11580499any tips/guides for casual waist training? Would really like to pull my waist in now that I've got a flat tummy
>>11588030The question you ask is answered directly before it. People like you making that association is why.
https://x.com/no_kson/status/2107347053604991214
>>11586962jiggle
>>11588030Why is it so hard to accept that he's just a cute boy (male) with a little bit of tiddy
The tiddy just provides an additional attack vector to make your femboy into your little cumpump.
>>11588497Because everything has to be something else. It's like when bronies couldn't shut the fuck up about fucking horses and made everything into an mlp character
>>11588497Because a bit of titty 99% of the time requires you to take women's hormones or have an intersex condition. Like do what you want with your own body and call yourself whatever obviously but don't be shocked when people ask questions about someone who's taking estrogen to grow boobs.
>>11588563We're not talking IRL here though. It's a 2D character bwo. Just like futas can also magically exist without needing to be explained with drugs or surgery or shit
>>11588564Maybe but unless the character's origins get explained somehow again, there's going to be people questioning. Like if an elf shows up in a historical drama you need to at least acknowledge that elephant that just entered the room. Is this a world where boys usually have tits? Just tell me, it's not really a default assumption of anime worlds that cis guys not on hormones have tits like green hair being natural is.
>>11588567People like you ruined traps. Fuck you.
>>11588572Traps traditionally don't have boobs, which is part of my point.
>>11588047I've read a bit of the manga and it's not brought up outside of the male/female nipple censorship gag. nobody says he's on anything, and they're high schoolers. so "really bad gyno" seems to be the logical conclusion, barring a "drinks too much milk" punchline or somesuch I haven't seen yet.
>>11588497Because hrt femboys exist while "actual" femboys aren't really a thing once you pass 25.https://x.com/Keroko44/status/2106686341912449373
>>11588700At a physical and a biochemical level there literally stops being any separation between them and transwomen beyond a certain point. And while there isn't anything inherently wrong with either identity, the incredibly deep roots of patriarchal thoughts can convince 2 physically indistinguishable people that one must be inherently inferior purely because of the commitment to the presentation of their identity. Transwomen "must" be worse then femboys in all cases because they would entirely abandon the "inherently superior" masculine identity, whereas a femboy or cross dresser has unrestrained freedom to "subvert" and "degrade" the masculine identity as a reflection of themselves.The resulting effective difference exists entirely in fear or submission to the system.
>>11588712Lay off the bath salts, anon.
>>11588712They're worse because they're political retards. That's all.
>>11588700>>11588712See>>11588572
>>11588712This is unironically TERF ideology. You're retarded anon. No one is inherently better than anybody.
>>11588894I'm not saying there's anything inherently wrong with either, but it is an effect of the society that we live in that transwomen are treated worse from physically identical men, observably because of the commitment to transition.It's not TERF ideology, its recognizing trans-misogyny under the hierarchical system of patriarchy. All else being equal, in the eyes of the established male-favoring system, femboys are less "wrong" than transwomen because they don't identify as women.I can acknowledge that as being a problem and something I don't support, but it is a real observation.
>>11588712>>11588894>>11588907>"femboy" thread>look inside>tranny idpol textwallsEvery time
>>11588907Your ideological bullshit has nothing to do with femboys and it is none of our concern.Trannies genuinely think they "pass" better if they adopt foid misandrist crap. Good luck with that, but we don't want anything to do with it because none of that is real."trans misogyny" doesn't exist. Feminists hate you because you're male. They hate you because because you're a male trying to be female while they hate me because I'm a male who looks cute and isn't serving females. But the underlying logic is still misandry. You choosing to internalize it is your business.
>>11588994All this desperation on your part to demonize other people taking women's hormones.
>>11588948Truly a pain to just be into cute boys nowadays
>>11588995>tranny having reading comprehensionchallenge level: impossible
>>11588994I honestly don't care whatever you do or don't think about traswomen, as much you evidently don't about what I do or don't think about you.You have all the freedoms you need to take whatever chemicals to achive whatever body, and apply yourself to whatever terms that you want.But your argument still proves that you recognize yourself as a benefactor of the patriarchy. I never mentioned women or misandry at all as that is an entirely separate issue, related, but separate. My entire argument was about how men perceive and interact with the world, how they perceive and interact with members of their own gender and those transitioning to the opposite one accordingly. Women have plenty of their own issues with both identities, but the masculine perspective still enforces that commitment to transitioning is by whatever means necessary inherently worse than feminine presentation.Literally all you are doing is proving me correct. Like I expected to be, by men exactly like you.That's not an attack against you, your gender, or your presentation. It is an observation.
>>11589006>benefactor of the patriarchyyawwwwnthe patriarchy doesn't exist. you are insane.
>>11588997Trannies can't just let boys be boys. Tale as old as 2015
>>11580455how do I find people who want to forcefem others? i just really want to find a partner who will feminise me and make me submit to him
You know trans women are real women because they act jealous and catty over the fact that femboys often pass better than them and are seen as more attractive
>>11589533As a person who used to chase femboys, I wish this was true. Dated a femboy when I was 18. I'm 28 now and still follow him on snap chat. He just looks like a regular dude. The worst part is that he told me this wouldn't happen since he ages like his mom. Wish I got him on estrogen.
>>11589665...is his mom hot?
>>11590142I guess. She looks like your average middle age woman.
https://x.com/Yuri_SRL3/status/2109030308611768560
>>11580455
>>11590781the fact he's a smug little brat that gets thrown around makes it better
>>11590634these dont look very small to me... O_O
Are there any HRT femboys (that actually pass) above the age of 30?
>>11591818There are none that pass below 30. Stop kidding yourself. There's a reason why we're fapping to cartoons. And if you know he has a penis anyway how the fuck does he pass?
>>11591869I think that people that see femboys with an expiration date are just gays in the closet that are so long in it, that instead of loving a man, they just want a girl with dick to fool themselves over the thinking that they aren't fags. .Why does the age matter so much when you love somebody? Or you just love they body instead for who they are? In every sense, that's just being false as hell.
>>11591869Wouldn't a HRT femboy be the same as a boymoder which is essentially a trans woman? With that in mind, all you'd have to be is a passing trans woman in boymode past 30. That's gotta exist somewhere.
>>11591818The point of being an hrt femboy isn't to pass as a woman though, but precisely to continue to look as a feminine guy. The more feminine the better, but a guy nonetheless.I'm 32 and the difference between me and other guys is way more noticeable now than it was 8 years ago when I got on the girljuice. I look way more youthful than the median 32 year old guy, and a tad bit more youthful even when compared to guys who were genetically luckier than me who looked very fem naturally at 24 but who now... don't.HRT isn't magic. It doesn't turn you into a woman. But it does prevent some effects of further masculinization with some trade-offs.We're all going to grow old and get uglier. HRT is a step to alter that process and make it a bit less brutal (subjectively speaking).>>11591962>Why does the age matter so much when you love somebody?Anon, you're on a fetish thread. And worship of youth is the norm, not the exception among most people (women, men, fags, straggots, troons, everyone really).Also, lust is usually the basis of love in some way.I've been with my husband for 7 years now. We do hope to age out together. And of course we love each other for who we are too. But it would be a lie to pretend lust or primary animalic attraction has no bearing in our relationship.Would we still be together if one of us would get to 110kg? Probably. Would we be equally excited to have each other? Let's be real: probably not.Your point about closeted fags is sound, but let's not go into the opposite extreme of pretending lust doesn't matter.>>11591970The main difference between me and a tranny is worldview. I don't think of myself as a woman. So I'm not "boymoding". I don't pretend to be a "boy". I'm an adult homosexual man with a lot of physical feminine characteristics.Idgaf if you call me Mrs Nona (I won't "correct" you but I won't thank you either). In the past I'd associate with trannies more but when the bundled ideologies became intolerable I bailed.
>>11591970See>>11588572
>>11591962Correct. Anyone who sees a femboy like that is destined to be alone and is retarded.
>>11581070I'm one of those guys. It will take a lot for me to get over it. My height (6'2") does nothing for me as a cope. I just have a trash 6.5" that merely does the job it was evolved to do.
>>11591987Thanks for bringing me your POV. I had a heavy misconception about this topic because the social networks are surrounded with antifemboy propaganda up to the ceilling. Here I found it normal. The typical incel throwing shit. But now, good lord, every place its full of those kind of comments, and I can't but notice that they all look like bots... Or just hateful people.I'ts refreshing to see that you have a beautiful relationship with your partner. I'm happy for you and I hope y'all grow old together. And also, thanks for bringing me the last point. I went nuclear about enclosing every person that shouts something like that on another person is a closeted fag, but certainly, its depressing to see the quantity of people that just seems to agree with that kind of thought on socials and also on reality. Have a good day!
>>11591987I'm in the same boat as you, hyperfeminine hrt man. I look very young and feminine compared to my peers around the same age or even younger. I just like being a fem guy, yo.
>>11592183NTA but it's because femboys throw a wrench in the plan. Femboys are proudly male and are very self aware, while most new trans who came out of the woodwork after it became trendy are autistic chris chan elephant in the room tier.
>>11592183Happy people don't post as often. Unhappy people (and scammers/grifters) post way more often because they have an incentive to do so.Besides, happy people (trannies, femboys, fags, doesn't matter) don't feel the need to justify themselves all the time.Why would I care that some stranger I'll never meet thinks that my husband is a pedo because he likes me for being fem? Or why would I care that some stranger thinks I'm a "boymoder" because s/he can't possibly imagine otherwise?>>11592187If you're fem enough and like dresses/skirts, it's quite easy to be seen as a tranny or even confused for a woman. Happens to me quite often but I just smile and act like a normal human. Works out just fine 99%+ of the time.The "worst" I ever got was one time in germany with a cashier (older lady) trying to solve an issue and when I replied a second time louder it became clear I'm not a woman and she was like:>so, you a tranny or something? sorry for asking, but that voice...>"tranny or something" isn't even wrong, lol. I'm a guy tho.>well you did fool me, genuinely. nice dress, where did you get it?And then spent 10 minutes talking the minutiae of some dresses, lol.I hear it's very different (for the worse) in north america but here (anywhere in Yurop, really) it's no big deal to a fem guy.>>11592190Trvke. Too much autism, not enough self awareness. This has been a disaster for both the tranny and the femboy race.It's why I don't associate with trannies anymore (except the older ones that I know IRL).I am fetishistic myself too but by god a lot of these people don't seem to realize that the world is not one giant fetish conference.I tried teaching a tranny how to modify and wear a dress so it actually stays good on them and in response I got called all sorts of names because the modifications I suggested (which did work, btw) assumed that their body is male. Well, yeah, sorry for assuming reality and try to make you look good in reality. Le sigh.
>>11591987>The point of being an hrt femboy isn't to pass as a woman though, but precisely to continue to look as a feminine guy.Passing is still the end goal. That's like telling a natural body builder that the point of lifting isn't to be able to bench 3 plates. You're technically right but there's no harm in trying to obtain that kind of goal.
>>11591818trappy-chan is 33 and looks great, he did get facial surgery tho.
>>11592232>If you're fem enough and like dresses/skirts, it's quite easy to be seen as a tranny or even confused for a womanHappens to me even without a skirt these days.
>>11592620He's the only one I know of desu. More femboys should get FFS.
>>11592505>there's no harm in trying to obtain that kind of goalClearly!Ig what I meant is that as an estrogenized fag, I don't fret about it like trannies do.I don't mind when I get "clocked" while trannies freak out, for instance.>>11592622Nice <3To me it only happens in the summer. In the winter not so much. My face is not fem enough and my booba isn't too noticeable.In the summer it works because the soft skin and the thin shirt creates enough of an illusion quite often. And even more often I'm in a dress, which is nearly always during the summer because it's comfier and faster to just put on a one-piece dress.To me that is the best part of this lifestyle outside the sexual aspect: comfier clothes.>>11592800>More femboys should get FFSWould if it weren't so expensive. Though as time goes by I'll eventually just hagmaxx lol.
>>11592829>My face is not fem enough and my booba isn't too noticeableI don't really have booba to speak of, I'm coasting mainly off my hair and eyes being very fem
>>11588030Because he's not. No idea why the anime made that change to his design, but he clearly has a flat chest in the manga. He also has a tiny dick and it sucks that many fan artists ignore that fact.
>>11593342>No idea why the anime made that change to his design, but he clearly has a flat chest in the manga.Hrtitty anime upscale, let's go!>He also has a tiny dick and it sucks that many fan artists ignore that fact.Agreed. >>11592829>I don't mind when I get "clocked" while trannies freak out, for instance.That's fair. But using the cis male example frome before, I kinda see it like working your ass off in the gym just for people to look at you and wonder if you even work out. Sure its gonna happen but all it means is that you shouldn't be contempt with were you are.>Though as time goes by I'll eventually just hagmaxx lol.What's hagmaxxing?
>>11593342>He also has a tiny dick and it sucks that many fan artists ignore that fact.Huh? I mean there are certainly some artists who draw him hung (Which I am grateful for regardless of canonicity bc hung traps are hot) but the majority of what i've seen draw him with a pretty small dick
>>11593661>What's hagmaxxing?Self deprecating term for just leaning into the fact that I'm growing old but also looking very femme so might as well lean into just living as on old(er) woman (aka hag).
