The Terrifying Moe Trash Sign That Changes Your Sex Just From Looking At It edition.Previous thread: >>11587742
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>>11590859My bad if this should be posted to /aco/ but i guess what "stimulated" me as a kid was that one episode of ben 10 where big chill gets pregnant.kinda wish someone made a comic around that and it affecting Ben by feminizing him in his human form or something.
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>>>>>11592297But yeah, there is kinda a lack of non-joke or throwaway gag discussion of periods in TSF media, which has always struck me as odd given they're both an intrinsic part of womanhood biologically and something that happens repeatedly and cyclically: a TS'd girl is going to deal with her flow like any other girl, once a month, and feminine hygiene is going to be a simple fact of life: I think it's cute and should be covered more positively.
>Read light novel/watch anime where male character transforms into female>"oh noes, I have been transformed into a woman">Fondles her own tits for 5 seconds>Fact that she used to be he is never brought up again and nothing would be different if the character was a female form the startIt's kinda sad that porn does better storytelling in this aspect than most of the actual SFW works.
>>11592498In my opinion, it is because authors do not want to open that particular can of worms. Manga authors usually play it very safe, and any kind of struggle for the characters that is not powerlevel bullshit is seen as bad.The only manga I remember that poked at the idea that an unwilling TSF recipient would NOT BE fine with their circumstances is Fukigen Cinderella. And the comments from japanese readers were always on the line of "omg this MC is so unlikeable and nasty!"
>>11592492idk, maybe even TSF writers feel that it would be too weird and cringe if they gush too much about it?I definitely want it, even though it’s hard to explain why beyond just “women get periods and I want to be a woman so it comes with the territory”. But I do sort of fixate on it. I wouldn’t blame real women for thinking I’m insane about that one lol. I don’t doubt that it’s only painful and a hindrance.I remember reading that in ancient Jewish law, women were exempt from certain monthly restrictions and obligations that men had to obey, because men had to be TAUGHT submission, whereas women learned it from birth, because God gave them periods so that they would understand that they were not in control even of their own bodies. That’s a theme that keeps cropping up again and again in so many different social expectations for men and women, and it gets to the heart of a lot of my TSF fantasies. Men are Normal, and women are Special. I don’t give a shit about being “powerful” or “respected” or whatever other benefits men allegedly get. I just want to be Special. I want it to be inscribed into my body.>>11592498I think it’s because the porn is written by actual TSF enthusiasts who “get it” and are interested in exploring the psychological implications. But other more mainstream stories are written by people who don’t care as much about TSF as their primary fetish, so when they include it, it’s just as a throwaway gag or as a “novel” premise that gets promptly forgotten about.
>>11592492>>11592509After the first period, girls and women just sort of handle and deal with it without making too much fuss over it unless they get particularly bad periods. So, it makes sense that most GB'd characters don't make repeated complaints about it, most women don't tend to go on about it. Would I like series to have it come up more than once? Yes, especially in series where part of the plot is that the MC might turn back because that should factor into their considerations a bit, because unlike any other woman, they can choose to never get them again. There's also a lot of them tease tampons and putting something inside themselves but then choose pads.
>>11592514Yeah it wouldn’t make sense to bring it up constantly multiple times. But you could spend a good amount of time on the first one
>>11592515Most of them spend a chapter on the first one. I think the only one where it gets brought up more than once is Nozomu Nozomi. Onimai sort of counts because there's a panel after Mahiro gets his where Mihari has bad cramps and then later Momiji has hers and Nayuta gives her heat pads and Mahiro using it as an excuse to get out of swimming.If a period has to come up again after the first, it should be that the character forgot about them or it happened suddenly because the character doesn't know how they work so got caught off guard by it. Maybe something like they need to use tampons or panty liners for discharge. There are ways to make it more of the story or more present.
>>11592514>>11592518Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it should be this omnipresent thing, but I'd like to see it come up every now and again, even if it's just the occasional trip to change a pad or pantyshot that's got wings visible: show that this character is undergoing what women undergo even if she's doing it without complaint, just to drive home that she's a girl now.
I saw this recently and thought about it.>be me>have the power to shapeshift myself and others.>larp as several different overly wealthy person>have anons agree to be changed into women and compete in this style to show off how wealthy their maid outfit got.>Tell each of them they win 1 million dollar and the ability to change back to male.I just honestly think it would be funny to watch. Some taking it very serioulsly wanting their dick back and others maybe just staying on the side line enjoying their new look and outfit.
>>11592592Haha! I also recall this from the bronze age thing where a rich man could humblebrag about how his wife was pale skinned because she spent all day inside her tent sewing (expensive), and not out in the fields harvesting.
>>11592506>The only manga I remember that poked at the idea that an unwilling TSF recipient would NOT BE fine with their circumstances is Fukigen Cinderella.Say what you will about Ranma 1/2, half of the storylines were about him trying to find a way to permanently turn back into a man.
Magical girl gender bending is kino and based
>>11592597Still didn't hesitate one second from wearing lingerie, makeup and seduce men whenever it was convenient though. It's just a cartoon, but under any normal circumstances Ranma must have been a very confused fellow.
>>11592546That's sort of what I meant, but written more succinctly. Yeah, a character shouldn't just have a problem with it the first time, maybe they forgot spare pads and need to borrow some from a friend or are just more irritable and short tempered one day because of it. If a series like Onimai can have the main character piss himself once every ten chapters it can have another period chapter.
>>11592603Nah it's just the bugs bunny routineAlso there's development in his character in that
>>11592624Oh yeah, that he was comfortable in either form by the end. However, don't think that I take Ranma 1/2 seriously even for a femtosecond. Nothing about it has much thought behind it, and it is all a mockery of fighting mangas. Even the "serious" parts like Akane dying were stupid as all hell. But that's just Rumiko for you.
>>11592396>That's just a typo.What was it originally supposed to be?
>>11592694燃えTo burn[Burnable] trash萌えTo grow <-- Otaku slang for cute things[Adorable] trashBoth are spelled the same, but different kanji.
>>11592396So the act of taking out the trash doesn't even matter, it's just the sign that's the trigger? Seems kind of pointless in the end.
>>11592700Thanks. Yeah that part really needed TL notes.
>>11592602My fucking life for if we get a proper transformation-based Nanoha doujin some day. I'd take something fairly shallow like a cosplay transformation at this point.
>>11592883Are you keeping up with this guy's magical girl story?https://tgstorytime.com/viewstory.php?sid=8271He posts here occasionally and his story is comparable to Nanoha. He seems to be slowing down his upload pace, though. So much shit doesn't get finished, he probably needs to be badgered to finish.
>>11592816I actually like the premise, it's like discovering some kind of SCP and keeping it for personal use. Though I agree with your sentiment in that they didn't push the concept far enough, it was just an excuse to make a pun.
>>11592885I'm not familiar with this one so I'll have to dig in for a more concrete opinion, but just from a first glance it doesn't seem like my kind of thing. This seems more inline with Precure honestly. I tend to prefer Nanoha's more mecha musume elements generally.
Someone in the old thread was asking about that video on dailymotion and I'm pretty sure it's Les Vampyres 2.https://metamorphose.org/entry/show.htp?rowid=3439&se0=entry&se1=show
Which grotesque-cute story is your favorite?For me, it's Inner Growth.
>>11593027>I'm pretty sure it's Les Vampyres 2.NTA, but checking out a couple of clips that are on SpankBang, that identification is correct. The whole movie doesn't seem to be available anywhere, though.
>>11593027Thank you! It's got a full frontal tg scene, though I assume it sucks overall lol
>>11592602I've been using AI apps a lot to get these stories going.
>>11593219example?
>>11593132it's on tnaflix. just look for the hour and 47 minute upload
>>11593219>AINot for meAlso while there are some gender bender stories very few actually deal with the very real issues of "suddenly in a completely alien body" and are instead trans fantasies where the new body is something that the character feels more comfortable in
another Maou isekai into a loli and this time getting molested by the Heroine that killed himnice
>>11593479Imagine someone kills you and then rapes you the moment you reincarnate
>>11593479I can't find it sorry
To qualify for the following offer, you must be unmistakably 100% a man. No androgynous or trans or whatever allowed.You're given a magic spell that 100% reverses your physical body's masculinity on demand into femininity and back again, and it works pretty much instantly or at least within a second or two. for example if you were 100% a man's man with tall broad shoulders a buff back and a square jaw etc, you get turned into the most feminine and supple looking hourglass figured woman with DD or E breasts, no hip dip or anything and smooth flowing locks of hair. If you want to be more of a 'woman', you can work on becoming more of a 'man' at any point to enhance the transformation further, but the spell doesn't change your clothing or reality for your new female persona or anything at all like that.The catch, there's always a catch and it's pretty straightforward: Nobody's allowed to know you have this spell whatsoever, you're not even allowed to claim you have it on a Mongolian basketweaving forum. There's a basic failsafe built into the spell, if you try to transform while on camera or while somebody's close enough to see you or whatever then the spell quietly fails and you get a tiny alert noise in your head to either remind you or alert you to this fact, but you can still do it if there's a reasonable enough gap or obstacle between you like a bolted door or something. If at any point somebody becomes sufficiently suspicious and comes to the primary conclusion that the male you and the female you are the same person or that you have access to any sort of magic spell, you will turn back into a man if you're not already reverted the next time you're sufficiently on your own and completely lose access to the magic after that.If you like you can simply enjoy the ability in the privacy of your locked bedroom or house occasionally, but if you want more than that you're going to have to come up with an identity for your alt persona somehow. What do you do?
>>11593664>No androgynous or trans or whatever allowed.Hey, it's not my fault my hips are wider than my shoulders!
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>>11593664>What do you do?Just transform at home in privacy and go out for some girly fun whenever. Make a tinder account for hookups and a bumble one for girl friends. Say I just recently moved in town or something. I really don't see what would be so hard about this predicament Just keep up my life as usual and make a living as a man and be a woman to enjoy my free time
>>11593664>What do you do?Use for fun, mostly privately. Tell the neighbors that the girl hanging around is my cousin if they ask. Masturbate. A lot. (A lot a lot.)
>>11593669>>11593681If you just want a bit of casual transformation occasionally like this, there's little to no difficulty. It's only if you want to full time being a girl that you have to figure out a way to invent an identity for them from nothing that can apply on all government levels.
>>11593659oh, I'm dumb, I was looking for it on exhentai it's just on mangadex
>>11593479vndb says the eroge this is based off has a mtl patch but I can't find it anyone know where it is?
>>11593664I'd stay home and schlick a lot outside of excursions to the mall to get some lingerie, that's plenty for me. This is also the best motivation a man could have to improve his fitness routine.
>>11593664>Alt personaWhy would I need to do that? I could just transform and if anyone questions it, I just say I'm transgender and then use the spell 24/7 with no problems and can get my official documents changed to match who I now am. If there are questions about how I look like so much of a woman, I just say I got surgeries done.
>>11593830Those must have been some amazing surgeons to turn a muscular bloke into a dainty little thing.
>>11593830>I just say I'm transgenderThe moment you do, you lose access to the spell and turn back to a man. If people know the man and the woman are the same person, you lose access to the spell.
>>11593839Why would I want to turn back into a man?
>>11593839>and turn back to a manThat's too safeMake them stuck as whatever they were
https://www.deviantart.com/charoset/art/Clipped-Into-the-Pinkrooms-(Bocchi-TG)-1398451118This story was well done, reminds me a bit of that one 4chan TG parody story (Caveat Emptor) from many years ago
>>11593839>you lose access to the spell and turn back to a man>>11593870>Why would I want to turn back into a man?That's the thing anon was getting at. Telling people that the girl you is the same person as the male you, even if you lie and say it was from surgery, violates the rule of the spell and automatically reverts you to a man. Which you wouldn't want.>>11593905>Make them stuck as whatever they wereThat's the total opposite of the scenario and the thing the original questioner wanted to avoid, because many anons would rather be stuck as a girl than as a guy.
>>11593955I don't care about the original questioner cuz he's a faggot who wants the risk of turning into a man instead of the risk of getting stuck as female forever
>>11594083>the risk of turning into a man instead of the risk of getting stuck as female foreverIt's already a voluntary transformation, so presumably anybody that'd use the ability in the first place wouldn't be all that put out if it became permanent. After all, "be the girl" is more popular in these threads than "turn others into girls.|
>>11594083>"The 'risk' of getting stuck as a female forever," he says>On 4chan's TSF /d/ threadYou're lacking a bit of awareness. The guy knew what he was doing, and if it's the same one who's made other pro/con scenarios like that in the past the rules are a lot more reasonable than they could be, too. I do wonder if it'd be possible to get legal documents for girl (you) while still satisfying the condition that no one can notice you're actually the same person though. Is the Fed paying enough attention for them to count?>>11594101>After all, "be the girl" is more popular in these threads than "turn others into girls.I'm over here by my lonesome, but thanks for putting up with my minority opinion.
>>11594101But imagine the anon coming home and trying to turn back to a guy only for it to not workFirst he thinks someone just sees him so he closes the shades, still doesn't workThen he checks if his webcam is on, it isn't Then he starts checking for if someone's spying on him through hidden cameras or something, he can't find anyThen for the final try, he'd hide in blankets and the reality would sink in that she's stuck like that now
>>11594127>I'm over here by my lonesomeI'd take the power to change others over changing myself any day, but the ideal scenario is being able to do both.>>11594129>the reality would sink in that she's stuck like that now"Oh nooo, I'm stuck in this form I've been having so much fun in and was secretly hoping to get stuck in. Whatever will I dooo?"
>>11594135Still beats returning to the status quo
>>11593664assuming my agp proclivity doesn't exclude me:after half a day of gooning, I start mapping out the limits of the magic and planning to get my female form an identity.stuff like, what happens to make-up/manicured nails? do injuries translate or stay with the form? diseases? hunger? if I stay female for a whole month, will I get a period? does it go poof if I swap back to male for a second? pregnancy?the results of this data collection will inform how far I can push the agp fun.as for that form's legal identity, that'll take some research. I imagine I'd look up obituaries and pick one to carry forward. probably consult with those better versed in illegal immigration and whatnot, but as my male form. an undocumented (presumably good-looking, I wouldn't bother otherwise) girl naively going around asking for help is just begging to get trafficked.
>>11593955I'm glad somebody in this thread has a functioning brain, unlike the retard who thinks he can simply disregard the genie or whatever that has granted him this power and would be shocked when he almost as quickly loses the opportunity entirely.
>>11594127>>11594135I posed the question because I'm curious what percentage of anons here would be simply satisfied with turning themselves into girls a bit in privacy or making the occasional quiet outdoor excursion, vs wanting to be one full time, for the latter I also want to hear how they intend to pull off a full time identity for their female persona in a situation where they explicitly cannot reuse their male identity and how do they explain their guy self disappearing, and finally hear how many would go out of their way to up their masculinity and become the gigachad as a guy, to further enhance their female transformation, when they can't do their exercising or whatever in front of the mirror as a girl for extra motivation.Having trannies gated out of participation is an added bonus.For the record I much prefer turning (willing) guys into girls, but I wouldn't mind turning myself into a guy for some lesbian goodness.>>11594158>stuff likeGetting manicures and stuff as a girl wouldn't result in you having them as a guy, injuries are more of an "it depends" things - in general scars and stuff won't transfer and if the injury makes you look like a badass guy like perhaps a knife scar under one eye then it wouldn't be there and potentially result in you having even more natural feminine charms as a girl.Periods and pregnancy is a good question I admittedly forgot to account for, but would probably work in the most convenient way given the rules and stuff. Avoid periods by turning back into a guy for a day or two as long as you can avoid scrutiny for who this guy is and where your female self has gone, and pregnancy would go into partial stasis while as a guy and return when transformed back. If the birth would happen, then your water would break the moment your turn back.>Good lookingGet working on yourself, you're going to have to transform yourself from a slob into a chad for the best results.
>>11594137>Still beats returning to the status quoDoes it? For someone that wanted to live as a girl, being forced back to the male status quo after having a taste of greener pastures would be freaking devastating. It really depends on whether or not the person affected was interested in being a girl full time or not, but I think for a lot of people here being stuck as a male after that might be the worse outcome.
>>11593664Im pretty androgynous looking and often get mistaken for a girl by strangers, do I just turn into a butch or something?
>>11594256If people sometimes mistake you for a girl, I'm afraid you're disqualified unless you hit the gym hard and change your haircut and stuff. The central core of this is that the more masculine you are, the more drastically different your feminine body is from it, so if you already look like a girl then your female form wouldn't look really different - think Luka Urushibara from Steins;Gate. The problem with that is if anybody connects the dots after seeing you as a girl and realises you're you (male), even if they don't realise that you're actually a girl at the time, you lose the ability to transform.See the problem here?
>>11593664yes, and use if to e-whore myself online up to either meet internet strangers in greasy motels or pay male escorts to live out my fantasies
>>11594191For me TSF is at it's best when it's done for unwilling subjects and at it's worst when it's clearly just somebody's wish fulfilment fantasy. But willing TSF can also work because IMO TSF is just as much about mental changes as it's about physical. Imagine scenario where man is given a deal like >>11594191He takes the deal with a goal of going to lesbian bars and getting some hot lesbo action. Maybe he is successful at first and becomes more bold, Starts going out with his new girl friends and spends more time as a girl. One day he goes out to regular bar where he gets hit on by loads of guys. At first he declines by playing the "I'm a lesbian" card, but men keep hitting on him and he starts to notice things like how muscular they are, how tall they are, how good they smell. He realizes that even though he mentally speaking is still attracted to women his new female body screams at him to get fucked by these alpha males. How long will he last until he gives into his biological desires? How much it does fuck up his mind when he has spent his whole life chasing sex and now sex is chasing him? Would that cause him to give sex to strangers too easily? Does the fact that he didn't grew up as female and jumped straight into the deep end of female sexuality make him more or less vulnerable to pick up artists and other predators?>>11594191Me personally, I´m more of an transformation happens to other people type of guy, but I would be lying if I would say that I haven't ever fantasized about transforming into a woman. I would probably spent a lot of time in safety of my own home a long time before I would dare to go outside. But I cannot deny that idea of going out as female to shop erotic lingerie or sextoys wouldn't be exiting. I would probably eventually go to a few dyke bars to to try out to get a lesbo hookups but truthfully I doubt I would dare to try something too slutty. Maybe I 'would try to make some money with ez mode twitch streaming.
>>11594333I am close to you, but I differ on a particular detail. For me, the greatest kind of corruption is love itself. Sex can be rationalized away. Affection and yearning? No. You cannot handwave those.
>>11594333>How long will he last until he gives into his biological desires? How much it does fuck up his mind when he has spent his whole life chasing sex and now sex is chasing him? Would that cause him to give sex to strangers too easily? Does the fact that he didn't grew up as female and jumped straight into the deep end of female sexuality make him more or less vulnerable to pick up artists and other predators?Funny enough unlike you I'm a self-inserter but these are exactly the psychological conflicts I want in my TSF stories.I saw someone speculating here recently that self-inserters just want fluffy stories where the TG'd guy immediately feels comfortable in the new body, but that's just not true.
>>11594333Retarted me coming back 4 hours later only to realize I some how linked same post 3 times without realising it.Second and third link is obviously meant for the >>11593664
>>11594451Magical girl (genderbend) is based and perhaps my favorite type of genderbendingSo much so Ive autismed actual serious stories and even a world of darkness character or two
>>11594465Old World of Darkness I presume. It works best if you cannot remotely tell who their original form is supposed to be.
I fap to josei smut and imagine myself as the heroine. being conquered in both body and spirit by a handsome chad ladykiller is very humiliating and very arousing..
But as a female you would quickly lose your fighting spirit.
>>11594509Yup we play Old World of Darkness splats
>>11594585I've started doing this with AO3 fanfics
>>11594598>>11594509can I get a tldr on why this ttrpg in particular? I'm curious to use it as a base for my own stores but I can't seem to find a good scan of the rulebook
>>11594711NTA, but you can find WoD enjoyers at the /WoDg/&/CofDg/ - World of Darkness and Chronicles of Darkness General in /tg/.Books, too - just read the OP.
>>11594716I must have made a typo when I ctrl+f, thanks a lot
>>11593126Oh!! Isn't this the wg artist? Does a bunch of misery porn stuff. I never knew they did a tg story
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>>11594841God, shut up. You're all so annoying. Just enjoy TSF content as it pops up.
>>11594845Boys turning into girls is sexy. Stop overanalyzing. Cunts.
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>>11592381Anyone knows more incest gender bender where a guy turns into a girl and have sex with his brother/father/ male parent?
>>11594509Why not COFD and Princess the Hopeful?
>>11594711Basicall freedom to do whatever
>>11594872Because we are going to play Mage the Ascension and not cofd splats or Princess the Hopeful
>>11594711Old WoD tends to go wild with the narrative and as to how much you can mess with reality itself (short of trying to mess with God himself, which always ends badly). Let me put it this way: Supernatural creatures like vampires are chumps who get royally by a singular werewolf pup, and then we have mages, who take the perceivable world as merely a suggestion.
>armorShe doesn't look like a front liner though. More like a caster, just looking at her gear.>>11594868I recall this very old body swap anime where a dude decides to possess the prettiest girl in the school, only to find out that she regularly and gladly fucks her brother.
>>11594868picrel but MC isnt the bendee in the situation. MC's brother becomes a woman because [disease/virus] and spends the next like 40 pages pumping her full of seed until it takes.
>>11595052Someone was commenting about this exact sort of thing last thread. These sort of themes are either never approached or gotten over within miutes.
>Get roped up by your friend to use some magic you discovered that let's you temporarily turn into his 10/10 perfect girl, but with a new mind of one madly in love with him, so he can fake to his family about him having a girlfriend>Figure since he's desperate, but not an asshole, there's no reason to tell him that the catch of this spell is if he engages in sexual intercourse with you, the magic causes him to become your perfect girl that's madly in love with you once you turn back>Such cases would need you to use countermagic as there's otherwise no time limit nor any further sex clause>After finishing the spell, you suddenly wake up in a room you don't recognize, naked>Right next to you, the most gorgeous woman you've ever seen is smiling, slowly guiding your hand onto her bare breasts>ffsWhat's your plan
>>11595055The younger brother is a maniac. The moment he hears his brother-sister had her first period he is springs into action.
Played Princess Prince ~ Feminized Prince Lute's Erotic Adventure. It's not very good.>Prince goes to take down the Demon King.>Gets turned into a woman, but manages to escape.>Gets molested by nearly every man she meets.>Lute, takes it all in the chin. Also in the pussy, ass, tits and mouth with no hesitation either.>Literally fucks people into submission.>Finally confronts the Demon King's minions.>Turns out they joined him because they wanted to be turned into women and fuck men. A lot.>Finally faces the Demon King. Wins.>Demon King also did fuck men by turning himself into a woman. Wasn't really doing many Demon King related things besides fervently sucking dick.>Lute gains the means to turn back and forth to a man.>Lute still is very comfortable with her lady parts by the end.
>>11595137Firstly, I fuck the literally perfect woman next to me in every position and hole imaginable until I collapse, then I take her on a nice date. Turnabout is fair play, but after that comes the hard part since apparently I'm kind of the asshole in this situation. Not warning him about this feels out of character since I knew in advance.If the mental changes were such that, while transformed, I abandoned any notion of turning back because I was so in wuv or something else vaguely mind-control adjacent I'd forcefully turn him back, probably also without telling him about I was going to do it, lest he decide to try and evade my efforts. Forcibly genderbending someone is a bad thing to do, all the more so if they don't deserve it and even more on top of that if it's someone close to you. I'm not a wizard with no sense of right and wrong (yet).If the mental changes were less severe, I'd talk to him and see if he'd be down to stay that way a bit longer. Could be a fun romp if we had a few more days of free time, right? Chances are we'd both want to get back to our lives afterward, but it could be a fun occasional thing to do in the future unless the magic is limited or something.
>>11594868one of the CYOC chronovac stories has the father turn his son into his deceased wife over the course of watching a football game on TV then they fuck.PHP exploit shit has them down or I'd link it.
>>11595137>What's your planPut it in.
>>11595157Can I get a link?
>>11595189>Can I get a link?
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Currently playing JK・スワップ! Another one in my backlog.A guy who longs for the halcyon days of being a highschooler gets a phone app by a shady guy. Body swap game. ---Going through dlsite, I see AI made TSF works getting at best 10 or 50 purchases. However, I am starting to see some selling 2k. Found a site with save sites for TSF games. A mixed bag, but gives me names to search for, which is what I want.https://doujin-savedata.blog.jp/tag/%E6%80%A7%E8%BB%A2%E6%8F%9B(TS)>>11595189It is old (2018). I was going through my backlog. I found not a single link alive. Let alone the previous game by the same dev.https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ233023.html
>>11595158>that picgiwtwm
>>11592891It is essentially a cognitohazard, really interesting.
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>>11594868https://exhentai.org/g/1359700/6c29505d17/Andhttps://exhentai.org/g/3490705/f58735cf43/Are both good, tho the last page of the second one is a bit much
>>11595336Harsh.
>>11595215>JK・スワップ!This thing didn't last 20 minutes. Would be a lot less if the game didn't make you wait. Now playing TS Policewoman Tenka. A very ridiculous game with pokemon, dragon quest and dragon ball references all over the place. Example: After fighting Not-Pikachu, Tenka goes to train with Not-Kame Sennin to improve her karate. Then does puff-puff to pay for the training.
Claude, make anime gender bender fetish game.
>>11595460Too vague. Accidentally makes an otomege.
Hold it. Has anyone actually made a good gender bending game that is not a VN, or generic RPGMaker slop?
>>11595473Oh boy. I made the mistake of asking the AIs.>Gemini: Started promoting trans identity and saying that cross dressing is TSF. Worthless.>Claude: Not as in the nose as Gemini, but suggested that maybe one of the Ranma RPG games might fit.>Grok: Has actual knowledge of modern porn games that fit. Mostly weg patreon scams. One of them an already dead AI slop game released this year!>ChatGPT: Suggested a Ranma 1/2 RPG games for the Super Famicom/PC Engine and Fable II. Actually commented on how they affected the gameplay.Huh. So no, not really. This is quite depressing.
>>11595473I remember having hope for that dev behind Little Red of Ridinghood some years ago.One of his games was a 3D horror game set in a school. IIRC you would walk through the halls/rooms, find girl's clothes, it would heal you up but you start to turn into a girl.Like, you'd actually see the model change.I had hopes he'd go on to make more 3D stuff and get better, but nope.Last I saw he had some 2D AI art HTML game.
>>11595491>2D AI art HTML game.???Even with the knowledge he acquired from making that 3D game, he went for the lowest common denominator of weg slop??? Holy crap. Talk about wasting your talent.
>>11595404Rito from ToLoveRu also makes an appearance.
>>11595404>>11595521this one looks neat but no english translationany one make an easy rpgmaker translater yet?
>>11595548I think someone made one years ago, but I learned japanese precisely because I despise all these middlemen.
>>11595551thanks anyways but could you tell me where to get the policewoman game? cant seem to find a download that isnt buying it off dlsite.
>>11595473Men make the best and cutest magical girls
>>11595055Incest and gender bender. This is definitely peak debauchery.
>>11595553Ryuugames has a copy. I strongly advice that you turn on your ad blocker though, that site is insufferable.>>11595555Indeed.
Malfoid is cute but he's made searching for gender change content so obnoxious... There's not even any transformations or anything in all the malfoid stories getting pushed on panda.
There's been a huge dearth of TS games. In the past two yearsRJ01586474RJ435025are the only ones I've found
>>11595473There was a TS rougelite mystery dungeon rpg made in rpg maker set in the world of Taimanin I think.
>>11595162https://www.cyoc.net/interactives/chapter_100879.htmlSon to Wifehttps://www.cyoc.net/interactives/chapter_112960.htmlDad to Yandere Girlfriend.
>>11595682I just exclude Western content and barely see any Malfoid at all.
>>11595521Something that I like is how Tenka's speech changes depending on how advanced her corruption/feminization progresses. She starts the game using "ore" to refer to herself, then changes to "atashi", as well as some other mannerisms. Still a blithering idiot, but that is almost a requirement for TSF protags.
it's so sad this got cancelled
>>11595779Kinda sad innit
Why do men do it? What drives them into wanting to become cute girls?
>>11595787Rather ask: Why would anyone want to be an ugly girl?
>>11595788Excellent point
>>11595787>Why would someone want to become something they've admired their entire lives and the world loves on principle?Truly a mystery. On a long enough timeline it'd actually be strange if anyone swapping out bodies or parts didn't intentionally end up as a cute girl. It's not like the usual physical limitations (compared to humans at least) would even apply.>>11595788Being attractive always has its perks, being ugly always kind of sucks, but it's interesting how much further both ways women go with that idea.
I love this shitpost
>>11595792I don't get it.
>>11595797
>>11595788can somebody fill me in on Cagliostro, I only play the fighting game so I don't really know the story.I know as far as that is not her original body and reason she is a cute girl is because she likes to weaponize her cuteness while actually being somewhat of an rat bastard.She is obviously named after fat bald Italian man but was granblue cag a male before she created her homunculi body?
>>11595682yea, Malfoid isn't really about tsf. It's basically just alternative potter universe where Malfoy was always a female.
>>11595555I need a series about group of young boys who dream about being superheroes and fighting the evil-doers who threaten their city. They get their wish but instead of super power they get magical girl transformation and now they have to fight tentacle monsters on weekly bases.
>>11595805I am all too happy to tell people her lore:>Be born with crippling degenerative disease.>Absolutely hate everything about your own body.>Have no parents. Only kindly younger sister.>Desperate attempt to save own life by using arcane knowledge.>Realize that you cannot salvage your body. Need to make another one which is not dogshit.>Literally invent Alchemy. Be to Alchemy what Nagash is to Necromancy.>Breakthrough: Discover Philosopher's stone. Make homunculus. >Female humunculus.>Transport own soul to new vessel. Extremely risky.>Success.>Not yet satisfied with the vessel. Iterate process over an over, seeking perfection.>Cuteness is perfection. Achieve enlightenment. Also immortality.>Start to prefer men at some point.>Teach own sister alchemy too.>While you focus on healing and restoration, sister finds that she has a remarkable ability for utter obliteration.>Sister teaches other people. Said people create the Alchemist's guild. None of them have the same level of skill as sister or you.>Fuckers start to get uppity and fear you. Seal you away for over a 1000 years.>Get broken out of the seal by a handsome young man. >Join his crew.>Become Deus Ex Machina and save the world on command.
>>11592498Ayakashi triangle does a good job on keeping the genderchange fresh and central to the plot.
What's the pettiest reason you've seen or can think of for someone to have gotten transformed? I remember one artist had a sequence where this girl overwrites a random bypassing guy's life, complete with him realizing his memories and everything were getting overwritten, to turn him into a clone of herself, all so she can make him do her errands for her. I remember seeing another where one of the guys at a German bar was complaining that their order was taking too long, so another person on the table turned him into a Kellnerin and basically left her like that and threw her back to the crowd to do her new job. I'd like to wonder what other reasons there are out there outside of "I wanted to fuck a hot woman with my best friend's mind" or "I like to see how a guy would react to having tits"
>>11595818At what point does he turn into a draf and get fucked forever? I keep reading that.
>>11595869>Asanagihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzLeQs6jZEMI have to inform you that Asanagi never actually played the game.
For your enjoyment. God tier TG storyWho's that girl. Drama Manwha.No trans activisim. No sex pests. Grounded portrayal of the different social experiences of men and women that doesn't play to political / culture war stereotypes. Protag is a guy that always wanted to be a kpop idol. He's genuinely a talented dancer and performer, but has a dog face, and gets framed as a bully. Since Korea cares a LOT about public appearances, this, basically ends his career before it began. A new kpop agency with a big backing is desperate for new talent, and a creative recruiter who's family owns an herbal shop gives an herb that restores the body of your past life. They decide to roll the dice on this guy, and turns out his past life self was a beautiful woman.Of all the TG fiction I've consumed this may be the most grounded mtf portrayal I've ever read, and skillfully explores a lot of the social and bodily nuances that porn stories overlook. Figured I'd share for curious readers. Does anyone else know of some good story focused TG?
>>11595892>Grounded portrayalBoring. I want the protagonist to be railed by futas.
>>11595808There's some pretty decent tsf art of them but I think it's like two artists who jumped out. I remembered them when I was younger cause of them giving her thick legs which I'm weak to.
>>11595892Grounded? I think so. Also idol related, but things are a bit uglier than what you describe in the manhwa you are reading: Kanreki Hime.Thanks for the recommendation by the by. I prefer to read things that are not wish fulfillment or power fantasies.
Comedy manga. This reminds me a bit of Jigoku Ane, but in this case, the "girl" is malicious.
>>11595521The mastermind was this madwoman who was trying to create a drug capable of turning men into shotas. Turning Tenka into a woman was not her expectation.
All right, Anon. You get a magical ankh that looks suspiciously like a Venus symbol. It's shiny and pink and glows very slightly.Every time you use it, you become whatever woman you want to become for a day. Want to be a tiny loli? Granted. Want to be a curvy cute 19 year old tomboy? By all means. Giant buff amazon? You bet your ass. You can even use it on others, and you can even set it to extend the duration by another day each time it's about to expire if you're so inclined.The catch, however, is that every time you do, you shift the whole reality of the world to favor girls more, in usually an "ironic punishment" sort of way. If you want to be an ultra-busty girl for a day, women's tits get a tiny bit bigger and they get more proud of them. Want to be a cute nerd girl? Girls across the globe get smarter. Stronk tomboy? They get stronger. Permanently. Even if you game it and turn into a dumb, weak girl to balance it out, the ankh will never "nerf" girls -- only buff them in some way you didn't expect but makes sense in hindsight. Their portion of the sex ratio might even go up. Think of it like a really fetishistic, hellbent GM.Every time you go back to being a man, your inherent station in life lowers, not because anything actually changed for you but because it is now simply an intrinsic property of being a man.But of course... so what? You can always just go back to being a girl and rejoin the fairer sex, right...?Do you use it? How much?
>>11596008Well, guess I'm now the Superior Woman and I'm never taking it off.
>>11596008Y'know, this could be useful. It doesn't make men worse, it makes women better. I suppose comparatively that is making men worse, but would making women less troublesome be worth that? Maybe. I'm turning into an emotionally stable, responsible, big titty woman with a male-tier sex drive and no interest in idle gossip a few times to see what happens and to what degree. I'll sacrifice turning into [fetish of choice for the day] if it's for the greater good.
>>11596008Time to turn the women into lolis
>>11596008That just sounds like it inevitably reaches a 100% female utopia when they become smart enough to turn the men into women
>>11596008spam the ankh until women are now all genetically superior in every way shape or form and hope for the best
>>11595886I accept Asanagi's takes as canon and I too want to be turned into a draf-whore and get mind broken by a superior male
>>11592381>moe trash feminizationnice description for the majority of nowaday's TSF content
>>11595521why do rpgm games after 2k look like shit
>>11595810The was one of the main characters in Mahou Shonen Majorian, which I remember liking. https://mangadex.org/title/09135b09-d79f-4cfc-86a7-79f29bd288e2/mahou-shounen-majorian
>>11595886>age restricted videoI'm older than youtube, fuck you google
>>11596008Do these transformations come with a reality change for me for the duration, or do I have to worry about my ID if I want to go out in public?
>>11596008 (me)Frankly I was expecting more hesitation but this is interesting in its own way (I would have replied to all replies but the system thinks that's spam)>>11596034Ah, but if the ankh can't genderbend any men, then it can't activate the female improvement effect, either. You would have to hide the fact that you're secretly a man if you wanted to keep it going>>11596153I'll say it changes your documentation but not anyone's memories. Good balance.
>>11596157>Frankly I was expecting more hesitationMake the changes gradual and there's little reason not to at least try, plus staying as a girl and enjoying those merits yourself is an option. I'm really curious if my strategy to make womankind better by transforming into a woman I'd want to marry rather than just one I'd want to bang/be has any merit or if the powers that made the ankh would shoot that down.
New Amicus Films/Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark-style anthology TSF tale just in time for Halloween!https://tgstorytime.com/viewstory.php?sid=9518
>>11595787When we are given command to depict the world as we like, the overwhelming human urge seems to be to fill it with beauty. What constitutes that depends on the person, but people prefer beautiful things. If we were given that power over our own bodies without the limitation of medicine or biology, I suspect we'd rapidly see the cute girl revolution come about, simply because humans would come to see their vessels as something to make into the ultimate avatar of beauty.
>>11596224Ain't that the truth? If you told me that I could nudge things to appeal to my sense of aesthetics, I would do so without hesitation.
>>11596224Profound wisdom
>>11595818>>Become Deus Ex Machina and save the world on command.Its always a good laugh when things get fucked enough and the world is ending for real to the point where Cagliostro goes "Ah, shit. I guess its time to take this seriously." In a cast that includes primal gods and super angels and shit, Cagliostro still manages to always be in the running for the top 5 strongest people in the room. But I'm immensely disappointed that for as often as Cag has threatened to turn someone else into a girl, they've never pulled the trigger on it. Not even as an april fools or a gag event.
>>11596321She did offer the choice to Ladiva, but Ladiva turned her down.There were some comics where a)Sturm and Drang fell into a gender reversal pond, and b) Vaseraga and Zetta exchanged bodies. Male Sturm is REALLY endowed and Zettaraga is a very good conversationalist once people are no longer afraid of his-her appearance.
>>11596322Speaking of...https://exhentai.org/g/1111168/269ab0acb0/
>>11596008But if I keep turning into a dependent, submissive house wife, women will eventually return to their natural role and be better at it than ever before.
>>11596367Anon "nah I'd win" Ymous insisting men are still on top of the food chain as the "submissive" women around him begin emotionally running circles around men, manipulating them into doing whatever they want while the men are none the wiser and it's all one giant in-joke shared between all the women of society.They used to make cautionary tales about people like you finding genie lamps, you know.
Apparently the Sub-Heroine manga/ln has been the source of some controversy.
>>11596379>I manipulated my husband into cooking by praising his cooking!
>>11596379As long as she stays home I'm happy.
>>11596396Women inventing homes that turn into mechas so they can walk around headpatting their husbands at work and telling them they're doing a good job and, "ooooh, honey, you're such a strong, capable -- pfft -- manly man~" while technically still "staying at home"
>>11596398>implying they won't just have robots cook and clean >implying they won't just NEET out >implying being more caring and observant isn't counted as an upgrade >"Honey, did you have a hard day? Do you want to... unwind~<3"
>>11596406Ah, see, now you're getting it. Both will happen. Anything you can imagine... and more.
>>11595787all intelligent life strives towards being turned into a cute girl, its like that meme of all life turning into crabs except actually true
>>11596008I would spam the shit out of it, during one of those I would turn into an extremely smart lady that makes a gender bender drug, then keep spamming it where I would turn myself into various female archtypes that all desire to use said drugs on men (mostly via rape) and turn them into women, usually submissive ones and just wait until it becomes ingrained into the general female population, from there I just wait until some pretty girl rapes me and turns me into her wife
which one of you did this
>>11596484>LoLNever.
>>11596383Easy to see why, pearl clutchers getting upset over the loli rape and then all the sex after it. I'm enjoying it though, sort of realistic outcome of someone being reborn the opposite sex and having their preferences change.
>>11596514I see arguments that biological determinism is sexist, but... if they had your entire plumbing replaced, I just don't see the sexuality of the person staying intact. Or their personality in general for that matter.
>>11596624I feel like in the case of a full, true, genderswap? Most people are going to end up as some version of bisexual within a few years. Their brain remembers being attracted to women, but odds are that their body is wired for being a straight woman, so things will settle somewhere in the middle. Maybe they end up a mostly straight woman with an unusual appreciation for other girls out of nostalgia, maybe they mostly like girls but every so often they get a little baby crazy from their hormones and dick starts sounding good, maybe they end up in the middle and they're not picky about who gives them an orgasm, etc. They're in a weird, messy situation and its unlikely that they are going to fall cleanly into one camp or the other without exception.
>>11596638most people already are some sort of bisexual. heavily ingrained social stigma makes it impossible to explore. also stereotypes and assumptions. everyone has tastes.nta.
>>11596675>most people already are some sort of bisexualMost WOMEN are some sort of bisexual, that's actually scientifically supported. It's a lot more rigid with men.
I just want to be a forever loli
>>11596383Name?
>>11596624>I see arguments that biological determinism is sexist, but... if they had your entire plumbing replaced, I just don't see the sexuality of the person staying intact. Or their personality in general for that matter.you're being deeply transphobic rn
>>11596685nah, the popularity of femboys and futa says otherwise. you could argue men have a very particular type of guy they'd go gay for
>>11596685it's a lot more rigid cause men have higher ""standards"" to uphold and whatever the fuck. and also because everything nowadays makes you gay, breathing makes you gay, everyone is internally terrified.why do you think the most homophobic countries also the ones with a bunch of gays? and if it's Haram, imagine the pressure. you would start murdering people just to stop thinking gay thoughts.women don't give nearly the fucks about women. they do though the also push this shit on men so there you go.
>>11596712https://mangadex.org/title/0ca7e282-0a0e-4c67-928f-dd5c9ea774bb/ts-tensei-shite-masaka-no-sub-heroine-ni>>11596713I no longer understand what that word is supposed to mean anymore.
New game called Demons' Night Fever came out a few days ago for all relevant platforms. It's a SPRG/management game reminiscent of Disgaea.Salaryman gets recruited by a demon to fight a proxy war against God, which entails being turned into different types of villains to fight different types of heroes in each chapter. So in one you'll be fighting sentai heroes as an evil general, and in another you'll be fighting fantasy heroes as a demon lord.In Ch. 2 the opponent is magical girls... which is naturally done as a witch.I can't say anything about the game's actual quality (I suspect it's mid at best) since I haven't played it on account of being busy with my backlog, but games with TSF are increasingly rare so I found it worth noting.
AI manga, and the story is the usual formula of "TS girl tries to experiment, and ends up getting fucked by a guy she hates because she was feeling horny."It's so done that I would not be surprised if an AI could replicate it word for word.>>11596724Haha, like a couple threads back where norse people thought that banging drums and milking cows made you a sissy.Can only imagine this one nordic bloke forever miserable because his dream of tending cows will never come true.
>>11596713transgenderism is a manufactured ideology.not related to biology.
>>11596713Go post bait somewhere else.
>>11596484Surprised my shit is showing up in lolg of all places... I need to draw more Ahri stuff
>>11596624I enjoy exploring this idea. If you're a straight guy, you probably woke up one day and started staring at women inappropriately without having any idea why. Full TG? Well, you're (probably) not controlled by your urges, but they're going to take you off guard.
>>11596624The more likely thing is that the nature of your sexuality would change, rather than the direction. You would almost certainly not lose attraction to women. This is what most TG material gets completely wrong. Women are far more likely to entertain bisexual urges than men are, and not just by a little bit, but by a lot. There is literally zero fucking reason that turning into a woman would rob you of that. In contrast, it's far more likely that a straight woman turning into a man would turn into a woman-loving straight man.This is all because women have drastically less visual sexualities than men on average. It's all about the scenario -- the *thought* -- of it. And if your brain has been trained to love women from birth, a flood of estrogen isn't going to change that. "I know what I like" is more than enough of a motivator to keep the path to liking women open indefinitely. It's just that people who are women from birth are basically trained to live their lives without any reason to suspect that they should ever bother to like the same sex. There's lots of reasons why a biological woman might *want* to be straight that have to do with second- and third-order effects of hetero romance (financial stability, social group acceptance, et cetera), and that's the key. That nurture continually reinforces a heterosexual nature, and so most women end up heterosexual.There's nothing wrong with this. Foids are just built like that.Basically, if you don't have a visceral disgust response to men already, as a man, then you will -- maybe -- turn into a bisexual woman. If you have strong fantasies of turning into a girl and going whole-hog dick-hopper... then yeah you're probably not going to be into women as a woman. If you *insist* you will love women no matter what, then yes, estrogen is not going to tie up your sexuality with chains and drag it towards the cock carousel. That's just fucking retarded /d/ thinking.
>It won't change my sexuality!Part of this you people aren't thinking of is the social aspect. 99% of you have probably never been hit on, like a girl coming up to you and trying to chat you up. You've never been pursued by someone with a strong desire for you.Once you're a girl that changes. You suddenly have options, several people who are strongly attracted to you. You have people who are actively trying to get with you and impress you, who are willing to 'wear you down'. And unlike a woman who was born that way, you aren't used to it. It's not background radiation, it's like offering food to a starving person.And all it's coming from men. If your new body allows you to be attracted to men, you'll almost certainly give in to one of them before long. The whiplash of suddenly being desired is simply too much.
>>11596845>Once you're a girl that changes.there are too many girlfailures for this to be true
>>11596847The bar is insanely low for women.
>>11596841>You would almost certainly not lose attraction to women. This is what most TG material gets completely wrong. Women are far more likely to entertain bisexual urges than men are, and not just by a little bit, but by a lot.Nah."Every woman is bisexual" is a meme, and true lesbian/bi women know this.Almost all "bi" women are just pretending for the political points, or because they really hate being attracted to men and wish they could change it. But they can't change it. Lesbians all avoid self-proclaimed bi women like the plague because they know they're probably not actually into women, or at the very least they'll drop any relationship with a woman as soon as a man comes along.For some women their bisexuality is just "I'll let another woman do stuff to me because I like the attention and feeling desired, but I won't finger/lick her back". Most women really can't stomach the thought of touching another woman's vagina. The number of women who genuinely, truly want to have sex with other women is... about the same as the number of gay/bi men, exactly like you would expect, imagine that.All that being a long way of saying, yes, ending up functionally straight after a TSF is not unrealistic. But this is all just magical fantasy anyway so you can imagine whatever you want.Anecdotally most of the trannies I've talked to about it said that HRT had some impact on their sexuality, but getting SRS caused their attraction to women to completely plummet. Without feeling the physical response of getting an erection at the sight of an attractive woman, something in that brain circuit just broke and it wasn't the same.
>>11596853>Castration kills the male sex drive Stunning insights from the modern age.
>>11596845You are fucking retarded and have never actually met women and talked to them about how their sexuality works. That doesn't happen.>>11596853Well, I never said women are all bisexual. Women are more prone to it, though. It's more that their brains allow it more than they encourage it. The female sexual brain chemistry is built to entertain fantasies and scenarios above all else, and it just so happens that people who are born women are (for good reason) put through an unintentional from-birth propaganda campaign to massage their brains into being heterosexual. There's nothing wrong with this, but if you grew up as a man, you wouldn't have this be a part of your life, so you'd be more apt to prefer the company of women in a similar way to how women who went through sexual trauma as a young girl just can't get over that and become lesbian as a result (it's sad that that exists, but I've met people for whom that exact situation happened). Whether positive or negative, that "training" doesn't go away, and it's far more effective on women than it is on men.If the TG were identity-death style, then obviously that's going to be far more likely to change sexuality, just by the by here.And, yeah, obviously losing your dick is going to remove the main "mode" by which you feel attraction to women. That much is obvious. But the same thing would happen if you were gay and got your dick chopped off. It's literally a behavior-reinforcing pleasure stick. It's going to fuck up your sex life in some way no matter what you're into. In this way it's actually one of the more realistic aspects of TSF when the MC goes, "I don't actually know how to sex anymore," because honestly that would be kind of true if you were just thrust into it.
>>11596856I mean, a lot of them continue enjoying sex with men just fine. But either way they're definitely not going to be as horny as they used to be, the estrogen alone ensures that.
>>11596859>You are fucking retarded and have never actually met women and talked to them about how their sexuality works. That doesn't happen.This is honestly one of the dumbest things I've ever read in my life. Have you ever spoken to a woman in real life? Like this is a serious question. I refuse to believe that you're so socially inept and retarded that you think men hitting on women 'doesn't happen'. I'm not even going to argue my case. There's no one else in all of human history dumb enough to hold your opinion.Or maybe you're barely capable of reading? And you completely misunderstood me? It seems like you constructed and entire paragraph after this reply, somehow, so... like what's going on with your brain, Anon?
>>11596845>And all it's coming from men. If your new body allows you to be attracted to men, you'll almost certainly give in to one of them before long. The whiplash of suddenly being desired is simply too much.I've never bought into the "I change sex, and that solves my dysphoria" narrative. If there is a substantial mental illness aspect, and I think there is, it's highly likely that the dysphoria will just transmute into something else that is ill. Similarly, a cis person who is otherwise healthy might experience frustration or distress from suddenly being the other sex, but I somehow doubt it would be exactly the dysphoria trans people describe. Mentally healthy people are adaptable. So, to that point. If your body tells you to get horny at certain physical signals, you're probably going to get horny. Mtf would probably have a hard time since women's arousal is more psychological, but ftm? Yeah. You're getting boners like highschoolers and experiencing the unyielding nature of male arousal.
>>11596870If you were the one with any reading comprehension you wouldn't have assumed the "that doesn't happen" was referring to men hitting on women but rather the other stupid retarded nonsense you said.
>>11596874Alright, that proves the poor reading comprehension thing. My post was talking about how a guy turned into a girl would suddenly find herself getting hit on by men, you see? And like...Oh who am I kidding, you're too dumb to understand.But congratulations on being the dumbest retard I've ever seen. I mean it.
>>11593664Just enjoy the spell in the privacy of my home. Having a dick is a tremendous convenience when not at home, but in my own home where that convenience doesn't matter as much I would prefer to keep the spell on.
>>11596853You may be right. Some advice a gay associate once gave me was: "Do not get involved with bisexuals. It's just a heartbreak waiting to happen."Seems like it's not a women's only issue.
>>11596841I really like the idea of chilhood boy friends getting TSed somehow at a very young age and going through feminity and girlhood together. Like they used to go all about boyhood and it changed
>>11595818Found it.Cagliostro: By the way... Do you ever feel like you want to be something else?Ladiva: Well, this is coming out of nowhere.Cagliostro: I can change a lot with my alchemy, you know—like a child into an adult. Or the masculine into the feminine.Cagliostro: If you want, I could theoretically make that happen for you too.Cagliostro: But it's just supposition. You don't have to—Ladiva: Hehe. That sounds great. But I have to refuse.Ladiva: Because my parents gave me this body. It's my treasure.Ladiva gives Cagliostro a smile, who returns the expression without realizing it.Cagliostro: Hehe... Hahaha! I get it! So that's the kind of person you are!Ladiva: Oh my, I think this is my first time seeing you laugh in such a carefree manner.Cagliostro: Haha. I guess. You've got me all confused. Not that I mind that much.
>>11596908I would find these interactions a lot more compelling if they happened in a game where other such interactions actually had the character give it serious thought or -- gasp! -- even actually take her up on the offer. But because it's a gacha game, the idea of a character permanently changing sex by taking up an offer made by another side character in (I presume) optional content is just completely unthinkable.
>>11596912I know. But if you think this is bad, they completely derailed the plot of the creator dragon god in favor of homosexual angel/demon pretty boys. This is not an exaggeration.
>>11592498>It's kinda sad that porn does better storytelling in this aspect than most of the actual SFW works.It is unlikely to change for 2 reasons1. Whatever the story is, the writer is not interested is exploring the differences in men and women and how these changes would impact a man become woman because that would over shadow whatever plot they had intended. The gender change was really only intended as a hook or joke.2. Most people writing this stuff haven't put any effort into reading about gender differences beyond stereotypes. So they lack the knowledge to write it.Porn is only slightly better because 1. The gender change is more of a focus due to the low page count and 2. The scope of the story is usually limited to fewer factors, allowing the writer to research or observe fewer differences and then translate them into the hentai.The truth is that hentai is still pretty limited. Like none of them really delve into sexual concordance. Most of them assume the new woman would have the same sexual concordance of a man. In truth only 16% of women are like that. Its more likely that the new woman would have almost have no sexual concordance and her labido and sexual desire become a foggy mystery to her self. I cant think of any that write the impact of the female cycle into the story. Some days being a horny mess. Others being a mine fild of cramps and angst.Nor do any account for anxiety and how much it dictates the lives of women. How they'll just not say things, go places, make choices because they are eat up wirh anxiety. The list goes on and on. A lot of this stuff probably wouldnt be good in hentai. Well, other than being a horny mess during ovulation. I could see it making a good game. With meters for different things. Choices grayed out because lack of labido, too much anxiety, etc.
>>11592492The answer is that until recently, japanese women didnt talk about periods.I wouldnt be surprised if japanese men are mostly ignorant of it.The west is only slightly better. Don't beleive me? Try to find instructions on how to insert a tampon. I think you will be surprised how poor and low quality the instructions are
>>11592603>Still didn't hesitate one second from wearing lingerie, makeup and seduce men whenever it was convenient though. It's just a cartoon, but under any normal circumstances Ranma must have been a very confused fellow.Eh, Rumiko Takahashi is probably trans or gay/bi. She claims to have given no consideration to men wanting to be women when she wrote it. Given that it spun out of a Yatsura character that was a woman raised as a man, I expect she was attempting to find a solution to write a woman dating a woman, or a way for a woman to behave like a man, and Ramna was one of her many ideas. The point of ramna wasnt for a man to become a woman. It was an excuse for a woman to behave like a man and marry another woman. She didnt give much thought to the mechanism because it wasnt the end goal for her
>>11593664>Get the magic>Can't use it in the house because the spell's constantly failing >Turns out [insert basically every modern product here] is broadcasting everything happening to their information broker of choiceIt'd be a great way to find out exactly how bugged your house is.
>>11596975>imageThis would be the most abused thing to ever exist.
>>11596976>A whole new category of women is defined>Biological and transgender women both start getting slopvestigated and checked if their body has any AI hallucinations>Nightmare stories of fucked up sex or someone unknowingly fucking someone they thought was their girlfriend but was some freak pervert who prompted her likeness starts appearing everywhereHorrifying
>>11596975OP here, thank you, I've been waiting for somebody to point out either this angle or "discover somebody has a secret recording device in my house" or something similar since the start.
>Creampie Sex Change! Monaka-chan>Couple of friends since childhood live together, Monaka and Mizuki.>Monaka needs a creampie in order to turn back into a man because reasons>They popped each other cherries because of this.>Very small risk of getting stuck and pregnant. Maybe.>Routinely gets a creampie from Mizuki to do his job.>Mizuki is worried about the nature of their relationship because he actually cares for Monaka. Finds his/her old school outfit.>Monaka runs out of semen too soon, turns back into a woman and demands a refill>After some back and forth, Mizuki says that he wishes they could have done this sort of thing when they were young and has Monaka put on her school outfit.>Furious lovey dovey sex ensues.>Monaka says that s/he also likes Mizuki, but is shy about it in a manly way.>Mizuki suggests to use condoms so they can flirt longer next time.This MtF story is one step away from homosexuality, but these two prefer to fuck the heterosexual way. Cute, in my opinion.
>>11596985This story was not serious at all.
>>11596876>The spell stays ON until I leave the house or need to open a jar.>>11596899This kind of thing works best after they've already hit puberty so they know what being "male" is really like. The younger they are before that, the fewer differences there are between boys and girls to begin with. I guess there'd need to be some kind of age regression as well.
You guys ever read the Devil's Hand, by isiyumi? It is hard to classify, since it is about a stupidly powerful male warrior traveling with who believes to be a defenseless woman, which is actually a shape-shifting fiend (which I assume to be male, since it keeps using ore in its speech).It got semi serialized as part of a greater mythos that isiyumi is writing. I just hope it actually goes somewhere unlike his Mahou Shoujo Akirara comics, which barely got some extra pages.
>>11597072You say that like my lanklet wrists can open a jar anyway.
>remember through sophies eye's>remember it being where you end up in a simulation>can end up stuck as a girl attending a school where guys are forced to learn to be girls in this simulated reality>their old bodies would be destroyed and put into a copy of their new simulated self>it's a tads 3 game and annoying to play because you have to type out the commands and they're picky as fuck
>>11597245>female form is stronger than male form
>>11597245I think the mechanics of the spell are such that you're implicitly (actually, rather explicitly) encouraged to engage in strength training (as a male) to flesh out and perfect your female form.Would work incredibly well as a carrot for me, personally
>>11597252>through sophies eye'sThe one about a deaf girl?
>>11597112I liked the twitter version, but the art in the serialized version didn't do it for me. I doubt the plot is going anywhere serious though.
>>11595695You got a link for this? I think this is the first time I've head of it.
>>11597272Nah. Something like your girlfriend spends lots of time in a simulation (IVR) for "work". Game starts after she spent 10 days like that and storms off after your question her about it.So, you enter the account to see what she's doing and can go to a few routes.No idea what routes though, I only remember vague fragments of that one school route. I tried playing, skimming over it, but even trying to use a password in the intro wasn't working properly.
>>11597295>You got a link for this?
>>11597297>Female LinkI think there are enough RPG Maker game over rape games already.
>>11594868Change De is so great wish it was longer easily one of my favs with everyone wanting to bang smol MC (needed futa gf, futa mom and futa teacher)theres quite a few incest tg doujins usually with MC (many turned into a loli) getting banged by a brother
>>11597310>needed futa gf, futa mom and futa teacherSo the only female(?) being the protagnist?
>>11596758Shame they couldn't get a chick to voice the witch form, practically ruined it for me. Hopefully we get at least one piece of fanart.
>>11597315yesthe nurse turning into a futa and enjoying fucking MC was great
Any more magical girl gender bending? I love that stuff so much
Looks like Mashiro Yuh got involved in a bit of a shitstorm on twitter arguing with westerners over anime and manga piracy. His account also got suspended at some point in the past few days. https://x.com/nakaG9014/status/2113664787146232191
>>11597597I agree with what he says in how the japanese see things. I think it is retarded, and it leaves heaps of money on the table, but hey, it's not my business. I will simply import the works that *I* like, and patronize the artists I enjoy. The barrier of entry indeed keeps undesirables away from the hobby.As for him, I find him utterly boring, just like TSF no F, who is just as opinionated, but much more of a scumbag. Both are creatively bankrupt, and I have never seen them create anything beyond cookie cutter plots which they copy past over and over and over. They can keep their "works" to themselves, thank you very much.
>>11592492I feel like the requisite "oh no I got my first period!" episode is pretty common in gender bender manga and the like. I remember at least Tengoku Daimakyou and I think Onimai both had it? But it's very rare in the explicitly sexualized content because it's just not a very sexy thing.
>>11597597While I do think westerners should shut the fuck up about pirating things solely so they stop making the people with the power to shut it down aware of them, the issue is that he's acting like these arguments are coming at them out of nowhere and not because other Japanese people can't help but autistically screech when people found ways to access something that would be gone for good otherwise. If the response is "No the corporate leader wanted it dead and therefore it should just be inaccessible forever" then yeah of fucking course people are going to do the digital equivalent of keeping warlords for blowing up their own culture's artifacts.More on topic but does Mashiro even still create TSF stuff? I thought he just gave it all to that one controversial deviantart artist
>>11597636>More on topic but does Mashiro even still create TSF stuff?I guess technically, but it's been nothing but AI generated slop for the past several years. And half the time it's just sissy/cross-dressing shit which I personally don't count, though to be completely fair Mashiro had a tendency to do a lot of that even back in the day too. Sadly the days of getting things like that Okashi Na Futari bride transformation are long gone.
>>11597597Copyright is a fundamentally evil concept and the full-throated endorsement it gets in Japan is one of the very few ways in which the Japanese art community is worse than the Western one.
>>11596624I can't understand why people think this. If you are a man and you have this fetish, you are literally a living counterexample to the idea that sexuality is determined by whatever is in your pants or which sex hormones you're currently influenced by.Don't get me wrong, I think the idea that getting hit with the genderswap beam magically turns even the manliest man into a total slut is hot as hell and it's great for fiction, but it just does not map onto anything that we actually know about how human sexuality develops.
>>11597652Sure, but lets assume, for the sake of the argument, that you had a case of mercurial erethism. People who knew you before would have spoken of you as a very reasonable person, who for some reason is now a very easy to enrage.That's the effect of a single compound in your brain. Now, imagine, that an exact copy of your personality was placed upon the body of someone of the opposite sex, and your mind is now swimming in a completely different cocktail of chemicals. Would you remember being attracted to girls or boys? Of course. Hell, you maybe even still find them aesthetically pleasing. Whether you would either pop a boner to a pretty lady or melt in the arms of a man half a day after the transplant, that is another question. I do not presume to assume that something like that would be immediate. Far from it. Hell, I would think it might be something out of a nightmare if you started getting the attention of the opposite of your current sex, provided you used to be exclusively heterosexual.It would all fall on how you decided to present yourself to the world. If you were a man, and now presented yourself as a proper lady instead of some turbo butch lesbian, you might be sending the wrong signals to people.
>>11597666Obviously the brain is just a body part like any other and I'm not someone who believes in some kind of metaphysical soul or whatever, but people tend to vastly overestimate just how much neuroplasticity there really is. Just like with the rest of their body, changing which sex hormones someone's exposed to going to have a massive effect on their brain as a fetus, smaller effects during puberty, and much smaller effects still during adulthood. And specifically for sexuality, most evidence shows it as being pretty firmly locked in either prenatally or by adolescence. Something like mercury poisoning is not really comparable here because 1. personality is far more malleable throughout life than sexuality is and 2. heavy metals are actively destructive and so a hell of a lot more powerful in their effects than hormones areNow of course we can say the magic genderswap beam/spell/pill/whatever totally changes your brain structure in the same way it changes your other organs and then yeah, it could absolutely change someone's sexuality, identity, and personality. But most works generally avoid going into that because it's a common boner killer so they just give some vague allusions to things somehow changing because of hormones or the new body's "urges" or whatever instead despite this not really making sense.
>>11595473I've been enjoying Unyielding, it's like 80% a VN but it does have some tactical tabletop-esque combat. Great scenes too.
>>11595682>my tags>parody: harry potter>mark as hiddenSimple as that.
>>11597682What's the ratio in Unyielding of sex scenes to text?
>>11597691If you're only counting CGs, there's maybe like 1 CG for every 10 scenes. But about half the little VN snippets in the game are text-only sex scenes and I think they're pretty well written.
>>11597676All I can give is conjecture, and at best an educated guess. What I do know that even with identical twins, you may end with completely different sexual preferences depending on how they were raised. I have read cases where twins raised by different households yielded one being heterosexual, and the (abusive) other a gay one. However, I have to ask if sexual preference isn't equally malleable depending on extreme circumstances like complete body replacement. I am aware that neural circuitry determines sexual preferences. Thus, if the mind is transplanted to a brain with an already set neural circuity, wouldn't that mean that they would adopt that new preference rather than staying in the previous one? The supposed area that governs sexual preference is located in the hypothalamus (hormone regulation) and thalamus (reward processing), mostly. I would agree with you completely if besides your memories and exact copy of your hypothalamus and thalamus were also copied and translated. If not... well, you are going to be a very confused girl/boy.This, of course, is me taking my fetish too seriously. So fun!
>>11597702Not that anon, but I have to point out that the mind IS the neural circuitry, the pattern of the connections is what makes us up. A 1:1 transfer would effectively be replacing the brain wholesale, but it wouldn't end up working out.Any magical transfer like that would necessarily be a partial one however, or you'd end up with incompatible muscle memory and sensory/motor configuration just because the structure of every nervous system is a little different and the nerves are jumbled in relation to the other body's. So I suppose all bets are off in exactly how partial such a transfer would be, and what would or would not be retained exactly.As for the general case of brain in a soup of different hormones though, you just have to look to folks on HRT for how that works out, the levels can be similar, or even higher compared to folks with naturally lower levels of their natural sex hormones.
>>11597705My assumption is that nothing short of divine intervention would be enough to properly transplant a full personality to another body. And even then, would it truly be stable?As for your other comment, supposedly a decent number of HRT patients report changes, but it is not a sure thing either. But the sample is also very small, and we are dealing with people with a whole truckload of issues. We may never truly know.
I want more transformations that involve pregnancy. The best case scenario would be a slow change, and as the pregnancy ramps up the man becomes more feminine until they have no way of hiding it. Maybe it's a guy who gets cursed to pop a baby out every nine months and doesn't realize whats going on despite his crazy hunger and body changes.
>>11597729Exhentai just had some chinese to english MTL translation of a very short manga about instantaneous TG and pregnancy.
>>11597702To be more clear, the core issue is that there's very little evidence these kinds of deep, fundamental aspects of identity can change at all past early puberty, so unless the hypothetical TG method involves directly modifying the brain itself there's no reason to believe the subject's sexuality would change even if everything else is altered. The expression of those traits may shift of course, e.g. a man who was always a little bit bi might be more open to being with men as a woman because it's easier, but the underlying nature would remain the same.
Please to any anons with low shame and lots of free time, im begging you, PLEASE start translating Shinkawa Toyoichi's TSF worksi dont care if its low quality or baby's first mtl, I NEED (someone else to do) THIS
>>11597770>directly modifying the brainThat's the entire point, no? Otherwise it's just glorified prosthetics. When I think of TSF, I think complete body replacement, not just a cosmetic changes or merely swapping gonads. Everything gets rewritten or replaced. No half measures.
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>>11597820So no self consciousness of the change?
