I'll start - pissing in the parking lot is free.
>>2964244i steal all consumables from hotel rooms.i'm not even poor anymore but i still do it.i haven't bought toilet paper or bars of soap in 6 years.
>>2964256I carry a dawn bottle into public bathrooms and fill them with handsoap I use for body wash. When I work nightshift I stop at the gas station between my house and work like 20 minutes before they close and the chick gives me all the stuff in the hot bar she's just gonna toss. Usually there's so much I share it with a co-worker. I keep McDonald's and Burger King cups in my car to get free refills. I used to keep a Subway cup but the pajeet that owns the one inside wal-mart had a fit the last time I did it
>>2964283I solely do woodfire grilling because I can just pick up hardwood sticks in my yard.I almost never run my heat or AC, just fan in the summer and bundle up in the winterI dumpster dive occasionally, but after Big Lots closed there's hardly anywhere left here that doesn't either destroy their stuff or lock their dumpsters
>>2964244I usually take home a few extra sauce packets from Taco Bell. About every third time I go, someone will talk in, take a fistful of packets and walk out without buying anything. None of the workers care.
>>2964244I use worn out undies to wash the car. I collect the initial water when taking a shower to later mop the floors
I change out my bath towel every couple weeks. Amazingly that's about how often I also mop my bathroom floor. Take shower. Get out walk wet and dripping over floor. Dry off with towel, throw soggy towel on the floor and proceed to "mop" with towel now. If you want to, you can also clean your mirror and wipe your sink down before throwing the towel on the floor to mop with. Then it goes in the dirty laundry and I grab a fresh towel for the bathroom. All my shirts eventually end up being rags for the garage and shop.
I made a motorized toilet paper un-roller for the public bathrooms that lock it up. It unwinds the shit tickets from their roll onto my empty roll, takes 45 seconds or so and just sounds like I'm blasting something nasty. No one is the wiser.
>>2964719Never thought of thatI do have a 2 gallon bucket of coat hooks that I've stolen from various public restrooms though.
As a former detailer, I know how to carpet clean without a carpet cleaner. All you need is a shop vac, cleaner, and warm water.I also know how to make a good all-purpose cleaner from scratch.
>>2964256>>2964283>>2964719I dont get this gypsy behavior. Its not even gypsy since gypsies are above it but IT workers with 250k salary arent.
>>2964739You start calculating the cost of stuff long term it makes a lot more senseJust stopping and getting a $3 slice of pizza or $5 burger twice a week Would be $300-$500 a year. That's one tiny expense
>>2964739You don't get rich by spending money.There was a wealthy socialite known for feeding her lunch guests cat food tuna sandwiches. And another very wealthy man that had a payphone installed in his house for his friends to use.
>>2964719>spending a minute or two to steal a single roll of subpar tpDeeply negative EV.
>>2964743>Just stopping and getting a $3 slice of pizza or $5 burger twice a week Would be $300-$500 a year. That's one tiny expenseAnd what can you do with 500 dollars a year thats so great. Is it retirement money? Is it gonna change your life. No.If you are homless with no income sure but if you actually earn money you are better off working an hour more or getting a side gig.>>2964745You get rich by making money not saving money. You can save finite money and earn infinite money. And doing that cat food shit is bound to loose you contacts with important poeple. Plus you will actually loose money by curing health problems created by shitty food.All in all this kind of extreme frugality and cheapness is short sighted mentall illnes. Ot makes no financial sense in 99% of cases.
>>2964745Rich faggots do shit like that as a loosh harvesting exercise, not to save money
>>2964756>And what can you do with 500 dollars a year thats so great.Wow did you miss the point. You cut 10 $500 a year expenses, that's 5 grand a year, 100 grand in 20 years, 200 grand in 40 years. That's substantial and could absolutely go towards an early retirement. All from relocating some soap or some toilet paper here and there.
>>2964760>200 grand in 40 yearsWow congratulation now you are 60 and you have the equivalent of 25000- 75000 of current money due to inflation. It was totaly worth it to live like a jeet your whole life.
>>2964761Stay mad and poor
>>2964763No arguments just pure mentall ilness. Despite not obsessing about money as much as you I probably earn more than you. I met plenty of cheap fuckers usually its coupled with low risk tolerance and lack of social skills. Horrible traits for earning money. Even if you somehow got money it would still live worse than average mcdonalds wagie. Happy hunting I hope rats are fat and nutritios this winter.
>>2964767Kek cope poor
>>2964754These are the big industrial sized rolls, I resell them 3/$10, buyers lined up all day long. That's $3.33/minute, or $200/hr for you plebes. I recharge the unwinder batteries at the public library so my cogs are literally zero. It's free real estate.
>>2964244Honestly, id rather pay for a clean bathroom than sharing it with hobos.
>>2964773Is this a joke hahaha no way you scizo
>>2964775Is clearing $300k/year tax free a joke to you bud?
>>2964732>As a former detailer, I know how to carpet clean without a carpet cleaner. All you need is a shop vac, cleaner, and warm water.>I also know how to make a good all-purpose cleaner from scratch.I've used one of those bissel mean green machines for upholstery cleaning in vehicles. When it dies I'll be replacing it with one of those clear suction nozzles from amazon and a small wet dry vac from Harbor freight. I never use the part that is supposed to pump out the cleaner and instead use a pump up spray bottle from Home depot. Also use the Harbor Freight concentrated cleaner and it works amazingly well to clean upholstery. I recently bought some powdered Sodium Metasilicate to make my own cleaner though rather than paying for mostly water in a gallon jug. What is your recipe for cleaner?
>>2964773>I resell them 3/$10, buyers lined up all day long.bullshit
>>2964808Anon, you might have just saved my marriage.
>>2964823How so?
>>2964244Are there places in developed modern society where people still carry coins? I honestly can't remember the last time I held physical money of any kind. I'd imagine it's been maybe 8 years or more.
>>2964256How often to you stay in hotels to where stealing the roll or two from the hotel bathroom has satisfied your toilet paper needs for 6 years? Seems like it would be a lot.
>>2964881>Are there places in developed modern society where people still carry coins? I honestly can't remember the last time I held physical money of any kind. I'd imagine it's been maybe 8 years or more.I pay for everything in my day to day life with cash. Unless it's a tax deductible item through a business then I'll use my credit card or put it on my account and pay for it with a check at the end of the month for a paper trail. Buying stuff off of Craigslist or Facebook marketplace I'll usually use cash because that is what people want to deal with so there is less risk on their end, but I'll get a hand written receipt for large ticket items such as heavy machinery. There are still tons of reasons to use cash. The government has no reason to know exactly where I spend and what I buy. Its not that I'm doing anything nefarious, it's just none of anyone's business what I do. Fuck em. I live in a small town and there is a local store that I stop in to buy snacks a few times a week where the staff knows me, but have no idea what my name is because I've never offered my name or any form of identification and always pay with cash.
>>2964881America kinda dumb and never made 5 of 10 dollar coins. We tried $1 dollar coins but people didnt like using them because they were almost the same as quarters. A lot of countries printed coins in values to keep up with inflation
>>2964937Why would you prefer coins over bills? Daily carrying coins is annoying. At least bills fold up relatively flat in a wallet. Inflation affects coinage in the same way it does bills unless the coins are made of actual precious metals...
>>2964944Governments like coins because they last longer. Vending machine companies like them because they make larger purchases easier. Common folks don't like having change jingling in their pocket or using a coin purse.Glad Trump did away with the penny by just stopping production instead of talking about it endlessly like other presidents have.
>>2964881Yes, actually. I go to local weekly market to buy staple groceries at a reasonable discount compared to regular supermarkets. I always pay in cash and if I come in near closing time they occasionally even have nice discounts on produce that's not going to salable later anyway.
>>2964244I find it hilarious that in Europe everything is a human right. Except for using the restroom. You have to pay for that.
>>2964760>>>Relocating
I used to be a security guard at a car parts plant. Saturday and Sunday nights were great because you could pilfer so much shit since the shift coming in Monday morning wasn't the shift that left Saturday morning. So if anything was 'missing' day shift would just blame night shift then vice versa.
>>2964834I'm a night owl. This means I can't get up early to get to the rental place to rent a carpet cleaner. My wife refuses to go rent herself, so that it would be ready when I finish breakfast. I'm not entirely sure why and it's kind of irrelevant at this point.The next constraint is that we have to empty out each room before cleaning the carpet. Which is not easy because we are pack rats. 3 rooms in total.The other constraint is we have to do it during the summer, on a hot day, so the carpet dries out quickly.The long and short is that the carpets haven't been cleaned in >15 years and they need it.But being able to do the carpets one at a time, at a leisurely rate, on my lonesome if needs be, is a God send.
>>2964760You spend 500 bux on shit paper?
>>2965035Not him but I also just started using my shop vac for it. You cab get some of these to agitate it too.
>>2965052You use that exact model?https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07CLZM4ZB
I've fallen down a rabbit hole about shop vac carpet heads. And I found picrel. Do people really use the fire hydrant to clean their car?
>>2965060i highly doubt it but it's a hilarious concept
>>2965060Probably not in the US unless it's your own hydrant. Sometimes construction sites will get one for temporary water but they get a water meter bolted onto the hydrant
>>2965052Those 1/4" hex nylon bristle brush sets for your drill work good to scrub vehicle carpets. >>2965060>Do people really use the fire hydrant to clean their car?Lol. No. You're not even supposed to fuck with fire hydrants at all. I have pulled carpets out of super nasty vehicles and pressure washed them on a concrete slab until they quit running nasty water out. Takes a few hot days to dry everything back out though.
>>2965060>>2965072>>2965073>>2965074>americans cant comprehend this level of freedom lol, lmao even
>>2964283>I keep McDonald's and Burger King cups in my car to get free refillsWhy not just drink water?
>>2964256Public tp is the thinnest garbage ever. Sometimes ill notice someone having that one ply trash in their place and i have to assume the have a negative amount of money to be living so miserably.
>>2964244I save fast food napkins and keep them in my glove box. I always have tissues or stuff to clean up a spill or something because my glovebox is absolutely crammed with brown napkins. My dad did this
>>2964881I get paid in cash sometimes from my boss if he gets paid in cash or if i do a sidejob and they give me cash. Ive got an envelope with like 6k in it. Feels good having a wallet stuffed with bills. Also buying stuff is easer because i dont have to deal with occasionally unreliable card scanners and signing receipts and credit card bills are smaller.
>>2965104Why would we even have to when most of us have our own yard hydrants? Leave the fire hydrants for the fire dept to fuck with.
>>2965372This, only I have probably 70k in cash right now... Never used an ATM in my life. Don't have to go to the bank and ask some uppity teller to withdraw my own money from the bank. Sure is nice man.
>>2964760>>2964743Not the anon you were responding to but just so I understand this, your “one weird trick” to retirement is eliminating 10 weekly instances of wasteful spending, ie a five dollar burger twice a week? So your strategy is to just not eat out (or some other similar waste) twenty times a week?That’s isn’t exactly a cheat code to life. Many people can handle that wasteful spending just once or twice a week so again, for normal people, it’s only a few hundred saved a year. That’s not going to keep pace with inflation. There’s nothing you can appreciably do with that little amount of money. If you are personally saving by not wasting $5000-$10,000 a year on fast food, good for you. But that doesn’t make you super thrifty.
>>2964917what if government throws a hissy fit and bans cash sometimes i feel the stores do give you an attitude over using cashcan you even buy equipment with just cash i don't think you can buy a car because it's the payment plan they sell as they say
>>2965543>what if government throws a hissy fit and bans cash sometimes i feel the stores do give you an attitude over using cash>can you even buy equipment with just cash i don't think you can buy a car because it's the payment plan they sell as they sayI've never had a store give me crap about using cash. Some places they don't want to take a payment over $10,000 in cash or else they have to report it. Cash is still king for Craigslist or Marketplace deals, and some auction houses.
>>2965398Not the same person, but same behavior: I try to spend as little as possible pre-made food mostly because I'm anti consumerism, also the idea of a jeet in the kitchen touching my food icks me.
>>2964244Every time I walk past Burger king or a McDonalds I go inside and take a handfull of pepper, salt and ketchup packets I haven't bought spices or ketchup in years
>>2965543Legal tender for all debts, public or private.
Maybe I sound lame but I do the following: Automatically deduct the bigger chunk of my paycheck into ETF/ savings account. Can't spend what isn't there. Switched jobs to a place within 4 miles of home. Bike to work. Make probably 15k less than inna city but save 2h/ day in driving. Repair anything. Car, socks, wife's kneading machine ( 40 cents for a new 37 Mikrohenry induction coil and 25 min of swearing and 2 mins soldering) Have no credit card. Buy all stuff second hand except some tools. Wanna retire in 7 years. At the moment it looks doable. I have one of the worst 5 cars in the company lot by age and appearance, but I work only 4 days a week so there is that. I enjoy cheap hobbies, I bought the worst house in the best neighborhood we could afford. Been renovating it for the last 5ish years. That is finished now so I'm looking for a rental property to work on now. Thanks for reading my blog fellow scrooges
>>2965543You can buy a car outright but most dealers have a limit on how much literal cash they'll take (often about $7,500 iirc.,) mostly to deter drug dealers and people like that as far as I know. You can go to the bank and get a cashier's check for the entire price of the car and use that though, I've done it several times.
>>2965701KEKthey want you to finance because the banks give them commission for every goy they sign up for debt slavery
>>2965895They want to finance, but they don't force finance. I've paid for 3 cards with cashier's checks. The seller is a bit put out because most of their sales tactics are based around hiding the real cost you're paying for the car. But they won't refuse a sale.
>>2965907Yeah, I've been through that process several times as well, a couple of times with insurance settlements on family members' cars and once when I made a really big down payment on my current truck. (12k trade-in + 12k down and only had to finance 10k.)
>>2965907They're just as sad when you bring your own loan from your bank. He just kept asking me for the interest rate. Like come on bro we can best themnjust tell me your apr.Okay fine your offering 5.5 and I got 2%. Damn Okay.
>>2965701Never, ever say you wanna pay straight up cash for a car. They'll just adjust the price for what they're gonna lose on financing interest. Get in house financing with short term 0% interest and pay it off immediately
>>2965923I'll do you one better and just never buy from a stealership. Fuck that noise.
>>2965023This is why you dont hire blacks
>>2964244>sell your toilet>shit and piss out the window>never wipe so no toilet paper costs>sell your bathtub to save water costs>set out pigeon traps for free food>lick condensation or squeeze out mold if thirsty>eat everything raw so no cooking costs>get your laptop from a scrap pile>hook up your power to a lamp post
>>2964719im really annoyed you didnt post a pic of your tp unloader this is the diy board. im calling you out and a big stinker until you post a pic
>>2965569i quit eating out because of paranoia and also bad service(imagine complaining and then going back i had to stop the madness) the extra money isnt being saved but spend on much bougier grocery ingredients
>>2964283I had a subway employee (not indian) give me attitude too so I reported his restaraunt to corporate about the manager being rude when asking for a refill, and now they honor all the refills no questions asked as long as you have a brand cup even without a receipt.
three meals a day is a capitalist scam. not only is food expensive, but so is eating so much in the long term. eating becomes an activity instead of a task. eating that much in general will lead to future health problems. there is also lots of time being wasted on acquiring this food, making it, eating it, and cleaning up. money is essentially what fuels the economy, but money mostly comes from people, who primarily use food as fuel. so by eating more food, we have the energy to make more money. Having more money makes one more inclined to spend it on useless things. having the mindset of "i need to eat 3 meals a day or else" is not a frugal mindset. Combine that with ones money making ability and the result is wasteful, unnecessary spending.
>>2965689i thought you biked to work. why is your car the worst on the lot if its a bike? are you a liar? why isn't your story consistent
>>2966019He probably drives when the weather is shitty or when he needs to carry extra stuff for whatever reason.
>>2964244I rub a small amount of wd40 on my tyres to reduce the friction between them and the road so they don't degrade as quickly.
>>2964743so you weekly pay 50 bucks for a hotel room and steal 50 cents worth of toilet paper plus 1 dollar worth of soap and it stacks up to 6 dollars of savings a month - staggering 72 per year
>>2964760why don't you just steal like a picasso painting and get 200 grand instantly instead of grinding toilet paper heists until retirement. It makes no economic sense
>>2965895I will never understand how you people manage your money. You get a car loan, build credit, pay it off early, and have a new car sitting in your driveway for a couple percent of what the car costs. You just NEVER finance through the dealer. Come with financing from a bank. I imagine it’s the same people that think the Menards rebate is some type of scam when the reality is they know most people are just too lazy to send it in. Do you pay cash for houses too?
>>2966033Pfft lightweight. I have a spay bar in front of my car that mists the road with a light sheen of used motor oil.
>>2966033Oil degrades rubber
>>2965942based.
>>2966041>He thinks dealers will accept cash>He thinks dealers will accept outside financingWhen was the last time you bought a car? 1990?
literally all furniture can be gotten for free because furniture is annoying to move and people just give it away on craigslist and fb and offerup
>>2964283>I carry a dawn bottle into public bathrooms and fill them with handsoap I use for body wash. This makes me feel better about my life.>>2964719>>2964773This also made me feel better about my life.>>2965689>Make probably 15k less than inna city but save 2h/ day in driving. Wisdom in action, anon. Time is money and your time driving is worth $30/h for vehicle and peace of mind.>>2966041Why would I pursue debt?
>>2964721>2 gallon bucket of coat hooks>now salvage palletsSide hustle, coat racks on marketplace
>>2966051Just like jet fuel doesn't melt steel beams? Sure buddy.
>>2964760>Wow did you miss the pointYou get it. Same idiots will take on car lease, pay capital cost reduction fee & high insurance. "But Bruv, my oil changes are free."
I've never actually done it, but you could in theory buy a coffee from the gas station, or even better bring back a cup for a cheap refill, and fill it 100% full with a coffee creamer of your choice. Then take it home and use it to put creamer in your own coffee. It would be way cheaper than buying actual creamer at the store.
>>2964773realistically, how many public restrooms have industrial sized rolls of tp and are constantly refilling them to keep up your supply? The answer would be like two in the whole county and there would be an investigation due to high value of property stolen over time.>>2964283>I keep McDonald's and Burger King cups in my car to get free refills.They're probably dirty and not good for you. In fact, keeping up with your affinity for these brand sodas is a bad choice in the long run because if you'll lose the ability to get free refills you will have to cope and probably will be willing to spend money on these drinks.
>>2966079Guess I'll just have to not buy a car from your shitty dealer
>>2966018i work blue collar and still fast 16 hoursit's literally an addictionso while I agree with you, your rant sucked balls
>>2966018government introduced food in into the society in order to keep people occupied and blind to the real scams going on
>>2964761you ever hear of this thing called investing? You don't just save money and stuff it under your mattress like a retard. Also, skipping takeout and some other minor things is not >living like a jeetThis is the type of false dichotomy I expect out of fatties when they get told to eat less
>>2966833went to a gas station today for road beer and saw a giant line at the lotto stationapparently the nationwide lotto is up to 1.5B or something so all these sad saps on christmas eve are wasting their money on ticketsthey'd be better off spending their weekly gambling money on some investing. they'd actuall come aheadactual idiot taxit's sadi thought it might just be a wholeosme christmas eve activity but apparently it's just smhucks
>>2966957>wastingYou don't understand lotteries.
>>2966958explain non-jew
>>2966957> 1.5 billionI wonder what the incentivization threshold is for the lotto people to just rig/scam/steal it???
>>2966957Meh. I never buy lottery tickets or gamble in any way and even I thought about getting a few tickets on the drive home from my inlaws last night. Had my wife look it up on her phone though and the drawing had already been done. i think she said there were no known winners so the next jackpot will be even bigger. Then we both started talking about what we would even do with all that money... its such an asinine amount.
>>2966959>Buying a candy barYour are spending money for a lump of sugar aka short term happiness.>Buying a lottery ticketYou are spending money on a daydream aka short term happiness.Now obviously people who mortgage their house to get many tickets are morons.
>>2966972Anything over 50k is worth stealing. How exactly do you plan on rigging a state lottery?
>>2967308Not that anon, but they apparently keep a record of all the tickets sold and know if there are any winning tickets correct?
>>2964256>haven't bought toilet paper or bars of soap in 6 years.This suggests you spend a lot of time in hotels. Would the booking fees not outweigh the profit from the shower gel and toilet paper?
>>2965390Better never get searched for any reason. So many videos of cops impounding cash if you fail to "satisfactorily" explain how you got it.
I did phone-to-phone data transfer using a data transfer cable off the shelf at a big box store while I shopped, then put the cable back on the shelf when complete. 45 minutes of walking around with them in my basket. avoided: 25 carrier transfer cost, 52 charger/cable cost @ carrier, 10 cost for "borrowed" cable sold at big box store.Bluetooth & wireless charging ceased working on my Galaxy Note 20 over a year ago. I finally caved and upgraded to Galaxy S-25 Ultra. even after spending nearly 1400 on a flagship model phone, overnight shipping and 10 year customer, my carrier couldn't be arsed to do a free data transfer in-store.
>>2967337>Better never get searched for any reason. So many videos of cops impounding cash if you fail to "satisfactorily" explain how you got it.No worries, I'm white.
>>2966079>He thinks dealers will accept outside financingMine did, in 2023maybe it's jews per capita thing
>>2967317> apparently keep a record… on a computer?Nice! I’ve never heard if anyone hacking a computer system. It’s never happened. Also never heard of some IT guy making $33k a year able ti gain access to computer systems from the inside. It just doesn’t happen.
>>2967420Wouldn't you.need more jews so they would demand their own financing to not get screwed by their bretheren?If you didn't have enough.jews the finance guy would stop bothering because all the normies get screwed anyway
>>2965942dino tendies, what are you doing here!?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAFWvs7bPSI
>>2967460I can't speak for high-jew areas, but my low-jew area dealer let me finance through my bank.also, more jews = more screwsthe efficiency of scaling judaism never exceeds the loss from increasing vectors for theft
Uncle always grabs disposable napkins at restaurants and keeps them as tissues or cuts them up as toilet paper
Steal stuff from work. This year I stole 2 office chairs (and returned one that broke that I stole years ago so they wont get too suspicious). Also>last year office christmas party>almost no one took left overs home >got a big tin of potatoes and chicken>this year office christmas party>everyone took stuff home>only got 1 container of rice and fishDamn people are learning. Also doesn't help that they fired over 1/3 of the staff and everyone is on edge.
>>2965934I'm white af boy>>2967475Brochacho, I worked at an office until it closed but I stole so much shit. It was a revenue office that got a SHITLOAD of mail twice a year for about two weeks and I loaded up on uncancelled postage.Chairs, whole cases of lysol, bottles of handsoap, packs of TP, various tools, loads and loads of padlocks, extension cordsI probably got 10k worth of stuff over the years
>>2967448>… on a computer?>Nice! I’ve never heard if anyone hacking a computer system. It’s never happened. Also never heard of some IT guy making $33k a year able ti gain access to computer systems from the inside. It just doesn’t happen.Ok and? So what steps do they take for the powerball to make it legitimate and secure?
>>2967490(you) back thenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyTf7y3ityk
>>2966079I have never seen anyone out themselves as having no fucking clue what they’re talking about harder than this post. It’s actually impressive. Bravo.
>>2966137>pursue debtA few hundred dollars to finance a brand new car? If you’re living paycheck to paycheck you shouldn’t be buying anything new anyway.
>>2967689He didn't even get any rocket appliancesAnd for all the shit I stole, they still GAVE me literal truckloads of stuff when they closed. I got several stacks of lockers, probably my favorite freebie ever xD
It is way way WAY cheaper to keep your body warm than warm you entire house. Throw on a few layers and save $2-300 a month
>>2966041>MenardsNow where in the Midwest do you live?
